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April 10, 2024, 03:04:38 PM
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@Cricktor,

I already apply all the suggested tweaks here and it improves a lot my syncing progress on an insane level. I'm already at 98% syncing progress since I started running a node with a prolonged start. Everything went smoothly after I applied all the suggestions.

Does anyone here know how to get my computer's approximate power consumption while running a node? My wife keeps asking me why my computer is always open 24/7. She is already threatening me about our electricity bill.  Cheesy

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April 10, 2024, 04:18:59 PM
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Does anyone here know how to get my computer's approximate power consumption while running a node? My wife keeps asking me why my computer is always open 24/7. She is already threatening me about our electricity bill.  Cheesy
Tell her not to use the hair dryer so often or empty the water heater every time she takes a shower if you don't mind sleeping on the couch for a few night. Grin

I don't think it's that easy to calculate. If you are serious about it, you might need something like a watt meter. There are also third-party software you can run to measure the consumption for you. Like with anything, use them at your own risk.

Here is just one article I found on the subject:
https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-pc-power-usage/

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April 10, 2024, 04:30:06 PM
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All those who complain a Raspi 4B takes weeks to sync, I can reply that with optimized parameters a Raspi 4B is capable of executing an IBD in less than one week with a normal 1TB SATA-USB3 SSD enclosure for data storage.
The HDD is the problem. Raspberry Pi takes more than a month to finish if you're downloading and verifying on an HDD. That's why it's recommended to finish syncing on your main computer (that has SSD), and transfer everything back to Raspberry later, if you don't want to buy an extra SSD.

Does anyone here know how to get my computer's approximate power consumption while running a node?
Depends a lot on your setup. If you're running a Raspberry Pi, give this link to your wife to calm her down: https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/5033/how-much-energy-does-the-raspberry-pi-consume-in-a-day/31826#31826.

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April 10, 2024, 07:08:00 PM
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Does anyone here know how to get my computer's approximate power consumption while running a node? My wife keeps asking me why my computer is always open 24/7. She is already threatening me about our electricity bill.  Cheesy

We can't know what components your computer consists of. Turn off any internal or external monitor when not in use.

I have nodes (RaspiBlitz, Umbrel, RaspiBolt; don't ask why Cool) running on Raspi 4B with 8GB RAM, those consume on average 5-6W each, all measured with good watt-meters. A Lenovo ThinkPad T540 (don't know how old this thing is, I bought it refurbished) with 8GB RAM, a Crucial 1TB SSD runs 24/7 with Ubuntu 22.04 LTS and a Bitcoin Core daemon headless. This laptop consumes on average somewhere in the ballpark of 12-14W. Lowest power consumption is little less than 10W for shorter moments but mostly between 11-12W. When a new block is seen power consumption spikes up to 26-27W as long as the new block is verified. This doesn't take long for a block, maybe around 10s or so (never measured precisely).

Internal screen of this ThinkPad is all the time off, lid is closed. In the evening I do some browsing the forum and other stuff with a larger external monitor. During those periods this laptop consumes somewhere between 12-18W depending on what I'm doing and of course with the block verification spikes when bitcoind is busy with new blocks.

Desktop computers are usually worse than laptops or power efficient small form factor modern office gear. As Pmalek said: get a decent power-meter (Kill-a-watt or similar) and measure your stuff yourself.

If your water is heated by electricity you can almost forget about the consumption of such devices like above. Cooking (to lesser extend), hot water, electric heating, washing machine, dryers and air condition are the power hogs.

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April 11, 2024, 10:17:56 AM
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Does anyone here know how to get my computer's approximate power consumption while running a node? My wife keeps asking me why my computer is always open 24/7. She is already threatening me about our electricity bill.  Cheesy
Tell her not to use the hair dryer so often or empty the water heater every time she takes a shower if you don't mind sleeping on the couch for a few night. Grin

I don't think it's that easy to calculate. If you are serious about it, you might need something like a watt meter. There are also third-party software you can run to measure the consumption for you. Like with anything, use them at your own risk.

Here is just one article I found on the subject:
https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-pc-power-usage/

Such software only as accurate as sensor to measure certain part of the computer. It's not available for certain part and it doesn't consider how efficient is PSU of the computer.

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April 11, 2024, 10:29:35 AM
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Does anyone here know how to get my computer's approximate power consumption while running a node? My wife keeps asking me why my computer is always open 24/7. She is already threatening me about our electricity bill.  Cheesy
Tell her not to use the hair dryer so often or empty the water heater every time she takes a shower if you don't mind sleeping on the couch for a few night. Grin

I don't think it's that easy to calculate. If you are serious about it, you might need something like a watt meter. There are also third-party software you can run to measure the consumption for you. Like with anything, use them at your own risk.

Here is just one article I found on the subject:
https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-pc-power-usage/

I hope that I can tell her this to her face but I’m afraid that I might reduce my computer time if I made a comment about his electricity usage. I’m very serious about my wife getting crazy about our electricity bill even though I’m the one pays it using my salary.

Anyway, I have my previous electricity consumption in average to check as reference on how much electricity it adds during my node challenge period. It just calming if I can show her some hard proof about the actual consumption measurement.

I’m using a gaming desktop with 16GB ram, GTX 1080i GPU and I7 10th gen with water cooling setup. It usually consume too much electricity when I’m playing games on high resolution but I knew that running a node will not consume much power based on what I read.

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April 11, 2024, 06:52:30 PM
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I guess your gaming computer will likely consume around 1kWh/day running only a Bitcoin Core node. This is not really a power efficient setup for a node. If you turn off the monitor your GPU doesn't have much to do, your water cooling eats likely more energy than a simple CPU cooler fan, at typically low load by the node software your PSU doesn't operate in an efficient power region, too.

If you plan to operate a node for longer time and 24/7 I'd recomment something more power efficient than your gaming desktop.

You should also reconsider if you use your gaming gear for crypto coin stuff, like a node and your wallet(s). Just saying from a security point of view. Don't manage your crypto stuff on a computer for gaming and other daily internet shit.

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April 13, 2024, 12:38:30 PM
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I’m using a gaming desktop with 16GB ram, GTX 1080i GPU and I7 10th gen with water cooling setup. It usually consume too much electricity when I’m playing games on high resolution but I knew that running a node will not consume much power based on what I read.

Even checking watt during idle, it's not small. That GPU use 13.2W[1] while i7-10700k (probably most popular version of i7 10th gen) use 50W during idle. And that exclude other desktop component and PSU efficiency.

[1] https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti,4972-6.html
[2] https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-10700k/18.html

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