Are you still holding

[promise444c5]

Recently, we've experienced some dips in the bitcoin market and now Bitcoin is back is back to 71k (yeah probably  at the time I was typing  )and maybe more before I post it or while you're  reading  it

Are you still holding??
It's  no news that halving is few weeks ahead.
Don't  be motivated wrongly towards selling your holdings as you will eventually  witness how your  loss could have turned into profit or how you could have made more profit if you've hold but it might be too late then ...

You're  probably  wondering  why this board??
Well, let's  just say I'm  still on the point of enlightening  holders on how secure their holding  could be on a privacy wallet ,

You aren't a crypto business  type , you are a holder, why are you still holding  that Btc coin on a custodial wallet  , holding without properly secured . why not get a noncustodial to make your holdings much more safer. Although using a noncustodial  can still make you prone to various kinds of attacks if you are not well informed about how it works, not saying noncustodial is the best but the fact that you and only you has the right access make it superior.
Besides, we use the term Open Sourced (which  means codes are available to public) to judge a more trusted noncustodial wallet .

Worried about how you could learn how it works, don't  worry I got you covered.
https://www.coindesk.com/learn/custodial-wallets-vs-non-custodial-crypto-wallets/

List of open sourced non custodial wallets you can download to hold:

Other example of noncustodial wallet that are open sources are:

Bitcoin Core
Fully Noded
Electrum
Bluewallet
Trezor Suite
Blockstream Green
Samourai
Sparrow wallet
Specter wallet
Nunchuk (Disadvantage: Supporting email account registration and encrypted cloud backup). Best to backup seed phrase offline.
Wasabi
Coinb.in (not recommend for beginners). Read this and this.


Note: No close source wallet mentioned, if there is any, let me know so I can edit and correct it. No custodial wallet mentioned, because of obvious reason of not your key not your coin.

For  holding, it is better use cold wallet for high amount of coins. Cold wallets like Electrum wallet on airgapped device. Or go for hardware wallet like Passport.

[Merged and edited two quotes from the same user ]

........ more will be added as suggested by replies


#Transaction issues that may occur frum using non custodialwallets

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802212.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422456.msg61326135#msg61326135


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[Odusko]

Even if bitcoin corrected bellow the recent all time high, bitcoin is still above $70,000 which is above the last all time high before this one and a good price for my bitcoin holding and since I have after halving in mind, I am still very well in good position with my bitcoin holding
With such balance I am still in profits and confidently holding on to my bitcoin.

[The Cryptovator]

I am still holding; I have my own target to sell my holdings. If I reach the target before the Bitcoin halving, I might sell; otherwise, I will wait for the halving. However, whatever the event, I am not going to sell anything from my holdings. I have separate trading funds, so I have been trading there actively. However, I am holding my funds in a non-custodial wallet, of course. But I trade funds on Binance, and recently I have faced issues there. They ask for time to get it resolved, and I am waiting for that. Unless they solve my issue, I will share the details with the community. 

[Charles-Tim]

Other example of noncustodial wallet that are open sources are:

Bitcoin Core (full node wallet)
Passport (hardware wallet)
Trezor (hardware wallet)
Samourai (mobile wallet)

But for holding, it is better use cold wallet for high amount of coins. Cold wallets like Electrum wallet on airgapped device. Or go for hardware wallet like Passport.

[promise444c5]

However, I am holding my funds in a non-custodial wallet, of course. But I trade funds on Binance, and recently I have faced issues there. They ask for time to get it resolved, and I am waiting for that. Unless they solve my issue, I will share the details with the community.

Sure, they have some reasons for such issue let's hope they fix in no time .....

Other example of noncustodial wallet that are open sources are:

Bitcoin Core (full node wallet)
Passport (hardware wallet)
Trezor (hardware wallet)
Samourai (mobile wallet)

But for holding, it is better use cold wallet for high amount of coins. Cold wallets like Electrum wallet on airgapped device. Or go for hardware wallet like Passport.

Thanks for the info it will be added...

[Pandorak]

Many people recommend using a non-custodial wallet over custodial because of security concerns, that doesn't apply to me now because the bitcoin i have is still small enough to be transferred from my Binance account. Withdrawal fees to external addresses are the barrier. From this background even though i am aware that it is not safe to store my bitcoin on a custodial platform, i have to do this because this is the only way for now.

List of open sourced non custodial wallets you can download to hold:
Blue Wallet
Electrum
Sparrow
........ more will be added as suggested by replies

You have them all in the second link and can add them to the list.

Open source wallets that supports RBF

Bitcoin Core
Fully Noded
Electrum
Bluewallet
Trezor Suite
Blockstream Green
Samourai
Sparrow wallet
Specter wallet
Nunchuk (Disadvantage: Supporting email account registration and encrypted cloud backup). Best to backup seed phrase offline.
Wasabi
Coinb.in (not recommend for beginners). Read this and this.

Note: No close source wallet mentioned, if there is any, let me know so I can edit and correct it. No custodial wallet mentioned, because of obvious reason of not your key not your coin.

BTC - $70,732

[Onyeeze]

Even if bitcoin corrected bellow the recent all time high, bitcoin is still above $70,000 which is above the last all time high before this one and a good price for my bitcoin holding and since I have after halving in mind, I am still very well in good position with my bitcoin holding
With such balance I am still in profits and confidently holding on to my bitcoin.

is not that the price of Bitcoin is not increasing or Rising but the problem is that people who is holding Bitcoin will it determine if they will continue to hold it for long time or they will directly decide to say that bitcoin because of the price right now the price of Bitcoin is appreciating and I believe that this point of time that the price will also increase more since ever will not Bitcoin the price have not gotten to this point but today look at the price of Bitcoin so when you hold your Bitcoin there is every possibility but the price might increase more than this but the thing is that are we determined to hold our Bitcoin what is our target in Bitcoin that should be a question that we should ask ourselves

[Humblevirus]

Even if bitcoin corrected bellow the recent all time high, bitcoin is still above $70,000 which is above the last all time high before this one and a good price for my bitcoin holding and since I have after halving in mind, I am still very well in good position with my bitcoin holding
With such balance I am still in profits and confidently holding on to my bitcoin.

Apart from this, we still have many investors who are still hodling their investment because everybody knows that the last price of bitcoin was $70k, so nobody will sell their investment at this time unless he or she targets $70k, if not since the last was like the same as this one, and we know that before we start talking about halving, Bitcoin must reach a new price that it has never reached before, so I think the OP should calm down. We are not ready to sell our investment; we are still waiting for the All Time High (ATH) to sell, but people who target their investment, if the price is the current one, they can do so now since this is their target.

is not that the price of Bitcoin is not increasing or Rising but the problem is that people who is holding Bitcoin will it determine if they will continue to hold it for long time or they will directly decide to say that bitcoin because of the price right now the price of Bitcoin is appreciating and I believe that this point of time that the price will also increase more since ever will not Bitcoin the price have not gotten to this point but today look at the price of Bitcoin so when you hold your Bitcoin there is every possibility but the price might increase more than this but the thing is that are we determined to hold our Bitcoin what is our target in Bitcoin that should be a question that we should ask ourselves

The bitcoin price will still rise more than this even though the market is not something we can confidently talk about, but since the price of bitcoin was like this some weeks ago, we definitely have to be expecting more than the current price. However, most investors that are still hodling their investment are doing so because they know that we are still yet to reach the ATH and that is why they have not sold, so nothing like some people will continue holding,  we all hodl for the bull run, and once it arrives, we are going to sell.

[PX-Z]

Bitcoin Core (full node wallet)
Passport (hardware wallet)
Trezor (hardware wallet)
Samourai (mobile wallet)

But for holding, it is better use cold wallet for high amount of coins. Cold wallets like Electrum wallet on airgapped device. Or go for hardware wallet like Passport.

This is also good to note that HW is like an investment as it holds price too, Passport will be the most expensive one to buy, while electrum is the easy-to-go wallet that can be used for just like any other HW in an airgapped environment if an old pc is available.
I'm using electrum in an non-airgapped device yet never experience any hacking of malicious attacks, it's just a matter of good practices while using the device.

[Lida93]

Are you still holding??
It's  no news that halving is few weeks ahead.
Don't  be motivated wrongly towards selling your holdings as you will eventually  witness how your  loss could have turned into profit or how you could have made more profit if you've hold but it might be too late then ...

You don't lose on bitcoin, you just don't, provided you are holding your portfolio on a long term investment plan which is why it's vital to set in an amount of portfolio you can afford to risk (just in case) so you don't get the investment so attached to your emotions that every draw back in bitcoin price gives you a headache to think of selling to avoid loss.

It will be stupid of me seeing how bitcoin had hit a new ATH ahead of the circle occuring then how much more after the circle. There's no other time to hold and continue accumulating our bitcoin hodling than now. Every experienced bitcoin holder understands that a proper profit taking plans is mainly after the circle as it going to be a full bull run season in place.

[tabas]

I am still holding and my Bitcoins are kept on a HW but I will change it soon once things in real life have gotten less busy. Currently, I am using a lot from the list and they're good. Samourai, Blockstream green, electrum and I've used sometime ago Bluewallet. And while I am keeping and holding, I've got my target price and everyone has got their target prices as well. We have to hold but this is a good reminder when someone isn't yet transferring his Bitcoins from custodial wallets like in the exchanges because when they want to send or sell those bitcoins, the exchange could just take a maintenance and all plans of theirs will become delayed. That's one reason why you shouldn't keep it there and at the same time it's not recommended at all and we're all being taught and reminded to use wallets that we're holding our private keys.

[Zaguru12]

This is also good to note that HW is like an investment as it holds price too, Passport will be the most expensive one to buy, while electrum is the easy-to-go wallet that can be used for just like any other HW in an airgapped environment if an old pc is available.
I'm using electrum in an non-airgapped device yet never experience any hacking of malicious attacks, it's just a matter of good practices while using the device.

Mostly when the advice of using cold storage is given most at times it is given to those who have large amounts of funds to store mostly a four plus figure amount in $ (1,000 plus) and looking at this amount no hardware wallet actually is expensive. Passport is somewhat like around $200 and that’s like 1/5th of $1000 coins it will hold. So it is still worth to go for.

Just like you I prefer the airgapped device storage due to getting hands on passport without exposing one’s privacy. But it is mostly not advice to newbies because most will just mess up the set up process

[Peanutswar]

By the previous experience in the last halving, I was broke because i didnt manage the risk at all, but now we are waiting for the halving i tried to accumulate as possible and tried to make a designated amount or target to sell my asset, I don't need to get carried with the news, and dips of the market because I know this is just a correction only, every time the market goes down, i assure to my self that I will make a buy not only in BTC but other coins. Diamond hands will be the winner in this holding. On the other hand not always in the top so manage your risk, TP as you can or get regrets.

[Tmoonz]

Recently, we've experienced some dips in the bitcoin market and now Bitcoin is back is back to 71k (yeah probably  at the time I was typing  )and maybe more before I post it or while you're  reading  it

Are you still holding??
It's  no news that halving is few weeks ahead.
Don't  be motivated wrongly towards selling your holdings as you will eventually  witness how your  loss could have turned into profit or how you could have made more profit if you've hold but it might be too late then ...

You're  probably  wondering  why this board??
Well, let's  just say I'm  still on the point of enlightening  holders on how secure their holding  could be on a privacy wallet ,

You aren't a crypto business  type , you are a holder, why are you still holding  that Btc coin on a custodial wallet  , holding without properly secured . why not get a noncustodial to make your holdings much more safer. Although using a noncustodial  can still make you prone to various kinds of attacks if you are not well informed about how it works, not saying noncustodial is the best but the fact that you and only you has the right access make it superior.
Besides, we use the term Open Sourced (which  means codes are available to public) to judge a more trusted noncustodial wallet .

Worried about how you could learn how it works, don't  worry I got you covered.
https://www.coindesk.com/learn/custodial-wallets-vs-non-custodial-crypto-wallets/

List of open sourced non custodial wallets you can download to hold:

Other example of noncustodial wallet that are open sources are:

Bitcoin Core
Fully Noded
Electrum
Bluewallet
Trezor Suite
Blockstream Green
Samourai
Sparrow wallet
Specter wallet
Nunchuk (Disadvantage: Supporting email account registration and encrypted cloud backup). Best to backup seed phrase offline.
Wasabi
Coinb.in (not recommend for beginners). Read this and this.


Note: No close source wallet mentioned, if there is any, let me know so I can edit and correct it. No custodial wallet mentioned, because of obvious reason of not your key not your coin.

For  holding, it is better use cold wallet for high amount of coins. Cold wallets like Electrum wallet on airgapped device. Or go for hardware wallet like Passport.

[Merged and edited two quotes from the same user ]

........ more will be added as suggested by replies


#Transaction issues that may occur frum using non custodialwallets

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802212.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422456.msg61326135#msg61326135


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You could add a tag of Bitcoin  price (current while posting) at the end of  your reply

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Am still very fresh in the environment and the only thing I should be thinking is accumulating more as much as possible it is only those that are far gone in their accumulation that should considering whether to continue holding or not or probably sell parts, holding is what gat me now.

Current btc price

70,432

[Patrol69]

Investors who have higher expectations like me are probably still holding their investments. There's nothing wrong with having high expectations, yes it's certainly true that Bitcoin's price is breaking all records in history and standing at new records, so those of us who invested in it have reaped substantial profits right now. Although we have enough profit at the moment, there is definitely a big difference between the current market and the 100k dollar market and we want to sell bitcoins when the price of bitcoin touches 100k dollars. Many people's target may be different but my target is bitcoin to touch 100k dollars and I will sell the amount of investment I have at that time. 
I know bitcoin price will not reach 100k dollar so easily but I will be patient enough and wait for that time.

[God bless u]

No in my opinion it's a better strategy to take out the principal amount you have invested along with the profit. This should have been done as soon as BTC reached its highest peak value because after then the chances for it to go for a high value is very difficult and it's not a good decision to hold on that much amount of profits on your investments.

If someone will hold on to even that I think he is at the heights of greediness and the point to note is that what will be the time then when you'll be satisfied by the profits? Never! With this type of mentality it'll be never enough.

[Essential10]

I am not selling my Bitcoin holdings in the current market, I plan to hold Bitcoin for the long term. However, when I invested in bitcoins I am very profitable according to the current market, where even after the recent bitcoin ATH, I had no urge to withdraw my bitcoins. Next month Bitcoin will be halved yet Bitcoin holds its value. It is difficult to analyze whether the price will increase before the Bitcoin halving but I look forward to the bull run after the halving, when the price of Bitcoin will exceed $100k.

[Mrcool75]

I'm still holdings.  I don't want to withdraw my crypto currency for now.  I am waiting for the bull market.  I have a target of my own.  I will keep my crypto holding until target fillup. Whenever my target filup i will convert my crypto to real money.

[ultrloa]

No in my opinion it's a better strategy to take out the principal amount you have invested along with the profit. This should have been done as soon as BTC reached its highest peak value because after then the chances for it to go for a high value is very difficult and it's not a good decision to hold on that much amount of profits on your investments.

If someone will hold on to even that I think he is at the heights of greediness and the point to note is that what will be the time then when you'll be satisfied by the profits? Never! With this type of mentality it'll be never enough.

This is also the best option to do especially if we want our capital to be more safe but this is not the perfect time to do it since maybe we can see some more pumps to come as halving days is nearly approaching. But if people can't handle the pressure since they always are always worried on their money they put on their wallet or exchange but still they want to hold maybe best for them is to take out their profit so that they might have funds  for damage control if everything fall beyond our expectation and we are still fine since we already secure our profit and this could fill the losses we might get if the market starting to fall and no sign of recovery.

Also maybe we can't call it greediness if they really set their goals for long term since that is their target and we can't do anything with that since there are lots of people I see still holding and accumulating since they are not looking for short term investment but rather they look for more better profits in future.

[Porfirii]

Bitcoin Core (full node wallet)
Passport (hardware wallet)
Trezor (hardware wallet)
Samourai (mobile wallet)

But for holding, it is better use cold wallet for high amount of coins. Cold wallets like Electrum wallet on airgapped device. Or go for hardware wallet like Passport.

This is also good to note that HW is like an investment as it holds price too, Passport will be the most expensive one to buy, while electrum is the easy-to-go wallet that can be used for just like any other HW in an airgapped environment if an old pc is available.
I'm using electrum in an non-airgapped device yet never experience any hacking of malicious attacks, it's just a matter of good practices while using the device.

Oh! I didn't know this new model, but it looks quite good!! A bit expensive, as you said, but 199 USD is not that much if you compare it with what others devices costed, like the Ledger Blue (over 300 USD a few years ago which, btw, was discontinued last year ).

It depends on the funds you have to hodl. For a beginner, electrum is the cheapest and easiest way to secure his satoshis, but as your holdings grow it makes sense to invest in greater security, although there are good enough cheaper alternatives other than Passport.