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April 04, 2024, 09:58:45 PM
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One of the problems of new traders especially the newbies is that they would want to use small money to trade and earn faster in the market using a large leverage. We should not use more than 10x as a trader and that should not make us copy other traders to use higher leverage especially when we don't know the amount of capital they are using to trade. It is better we follow our own rules so that we can profitable in the crypto market. Greed has always been the problem and we should make sure we take our eyes from that.

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April 04, 2024, 11:56:24 PM
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You need to know the basics first from the videos to trade. No indicator will work if you can't catch the small things. Markets are not just driven by numbers they are influenced by human emotions and psychology. Fundamental analysis goes beyond price movements to consider other factors that affect the price of an index currency. By understanding the underlying economic drivers traders can make decisions consistent with broader market trends.

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April 05, 2024, 08:45:35 AM
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Videos like that are very likely to mislead many novice traders because novice traders with minimal experience think that it is the truth, especially by showing pictures so that they are more convincing.
It is impossible for traders to never experience losses and always be able to overcome the mistakes they make so that they still end up making a profit, maybe they have experienced but it's just occasionally but occasional experience cannot be an accurate reference that mistakes can always be changed and still provide profits, and I am never interested in videos like that because it will only make us think that trading is easy even though it is the opposite.

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April 05, 2024, 12:53:53 PM
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One of the problems of new traders especially the newbies is that they would want to use small money to trade and earn faster in the market using a large leverage. We should not use more than 10x as a trader and that should not make us copy other traders to use higher leverage especially when we don't know the amount of capital they are using to trade. It is better we follow our own rules so that we can profitable in the crypto market. Greed has always been the problem and we should make sure we take our eyes from that.

When you are just a newbie in the field of crypto trading, there is no need to rush just to get a big profit. At least 3–5% should be satisfied with that first, while you are learning trading.
The problem is that others are envious of other traders that they watch on YouTube, thinking that they will experience the same thing.

That's why it's important to learn the basics first in order not to look like a fool because you always think it's a get-rich-quick scheme; that's not the mindset of a newbie in trading.

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April 05, 2024, 04:19:42 PM
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April 05, 2024, 04:42:31 PM
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I saw a video on Youtube where the trader is able to make money trading, even when he is wrong...

Don't always believe in what other people are saying, don't watch too much of YouTube videos, some things you see online are nothing but pure lies, if you dare try any, you will lose beyond recognition, some of them you're seeing are paid for what they say, they are sometimes shilling or influencing others through advertisements, you have to just learn about what is good for yourself by trading using the right and specific desiring pattern which is expected, i don't know how someone can get it right while doing it wrong in trading.


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April 05, 2024, 04:51:55 PM
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I saw a video on Youtube where the trader is able to make money trading, even when he is wrong...

The key points:

He is able to be in drawdown from 8 trades in a row, because he is not risking a large lot size per trade.

He knows the market will retrace back or close to the original first trade,

The newer trades act as the profitable trades to dampen the loss from the earlier trades

I am not an english native speaker so I dont understand everything in the video..do you know where I could find more info on this strategy in text/pdf?

Is it possible to share the video here in case someone is intersted in sharing more details about this strategy?



You can't be wrong and still make money in Trading, its impossible. You should watch out for all this influencer, YouTubers, affiliates most don't know how to trade they just look for there baits that would pay them for there courses and keep feeding people with lies and unrealistic results.
That shouldn't be your problem mate, you should be concerned on developing yourself and your skills to leverage on your ability to approach the market than running after such strategy. There is no shortcut in trading you have to follow, learn and endure the process, the earlier you realize this the better.
Sort out for reliable strategy and learn more on it than learning an unrealistic approach don't be pressure or hasty to earn but consider learning as major part of the game to ease your journey. You can apply for Mentorship programme to help you and you will be amazed on how fast you grow.
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April 05, 2024, 05:05:37 PM
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I saw a video on Youtube where the trader is able to make money trading, even when he is wrong...

It’s contradicting because if you made a profit then your decision is not wrong. You just use different approach on what you preferred as correct but definitely he is unknowingly in right position that’s why he made profit.

All the pointers that you share is just unorthodox style of trading.

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April 05, 2024, 05:17:17 PM
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You saw it in a YouTube video? Then you are wrong mate. The things that you saw in the video are made by a YouTuber and not a Trader. Moreover what you watched is just the content he wanted to make you see. For him this is the best way to make money, even when he is wrong. In real, if you don’t take the market seriously, then you will definitely make loss. The best way to avoid loss is to take minimal risk with minimal profit when market is uncertain.

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I think there's no harm in following the videos on YouTube.  Even though many people brag, of course there are those who really teach the theory.  But of course you should not accept everything without clarification.  However, of course having a good mentor is a great thing.

He is able to be in drawdown from 8 trades in a row, because he is not risking a large lot size per trade.
I think this is a good thing to minimize the risks that occur.  And I think this indicates he is a good analyst.  This set up is what many beginners skip so they find themselves falling.

I am not an english native speaker so I dont understand everything in the video.
I think you should look for channels that you can fully understand.  This helps you to really understand what is being said.  Look for channels that use your national language.  Then you can register a demo account to practice it.

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April 05, 2024, 08:00:09 PM
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Videos like that are very likely to mislead many novice traders because novice traders with minimal experience think that it is the truth, especially by showing pictures so that they are more convincing.
It is impossible for traders to never experience losses and always be able to overcome the mistakes they make so that they still end up making a profit, maybe they have experienced but it's just occasionally but occasional experience cannot be an accurate reference that mistakes can always be changed and still provide profits, and I am never interested in videos like that because it will only make us think that trading is easy even though it is the opposite.

Overall, such actions will only be able to be done by traders who already have a high level of experience in the world of trading, which means that it is unlikely that this method can be thought of by novice traders, and yes I quite agree with your idea here that there is a possibility that this method will actually mislead beginners when they see the video. Trading is always about the possibility of profit and the possibility of loss and a loss is a loss, even if you can turn a loss into a recovery or even a profit but yes not all loss situations can be tricked that way.

Yes it is true that videos like this are very likely to make a beginner change his perspective and thoughts about trading, it is possible for them to think that "it doesn't matter if I lose because I can recover the situation into profit by doing the way I saw in the video", when in reality it is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand, meaning that such events will not be able to always be repeated, only occasionally and only when market movements are in your favor.

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April 06, 2024, 09:35:17 AM
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I saw a video on Youtube where the trader is able to make money trading, even when he is wrong...

The key points:

He is able to be in drawdown from 8 trades in a row, because he is not risking a large lot size per trade.

He knows the market will retrace back or close to the original first trade,

The newer trades act as the profitable trades to dampen the loss from the earlier trades

I am not an english native speaker so I dont understand everything in the video..do you know where I could find more info on this strategy in text/pdf?

Is it possible to share the video here in case someone is intersted in sharing more details about this strategy?


You definitely don't believe everything you see on YouTube because what happened to them is not what will happen to you, but you can't believe everything on YouTube. But if you are new to trading, you must trade very carefully because your trade can be damaged due to a little carelessness. You must have a long-term plan in trading. If you can trade with a long-term plan after checking the market, you will definitely be a successful trader.
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April 06, 2024, 03:04:45 PM
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I think you are pretty new here that is why you are talking like that. When I was a Freshie I too was attracted to these types of YouTube's and social media influencers and it led to some losses as well. They will always try to do something that will be a little different from the market so that they can get a little attention and views.

Remember if someone Is a successful trader he will not do such a creepy thing just to get a couple hundred dollars. Trading is a very profitable business so why would someone work so hard to get views on YouTube? Try to be under some good persons so that you can learn and earn as well don't go after these types of people .

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April 06, 2024, 05:58:55 PM
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I think there's no harm in following the videos on YouTube.  Even though many people brag, of course there are those who really teach the theory.  But of course you should not accept everything without clarification.  However, of course having a good mentor is a great thing.
As long as it is a lesson for us, it is clearly not wrong to follow the directions and listen to the explanations on YouTube, because I also agree with your statement that everything we hear must always be clarified by several people who really understand it. So that we ourselves will not be wrong in interpreting it properly because basically everyone is highly encouraged to learn from various things so that we can find more important knowledge for each of us.

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April 07, 2024, 01:36:45 PM
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The key points:

He is able to be in drawdown from 8 trades in a row, because he is not risking a large lot size per trade.
He knows the market will retrace back or close to the original first trade,

So he risks little to gain little because he doesn't have a clue where things will be going, then he has enough capital to ignore the losses but also bets enough on the next move to recoup the losses, no only that but somehow after being wrong 8 times in a row he magically knows that the market will retrace, but just as inexplicably he didn't do the opposite, by gaining with the first trades and then gaining again with the retracement and ended up with a zero-sum no chance of making a penny risky strategy!

I've seen a ton of strategies on how to lose your money but this one is top 3.

A fairly simple strategy, but it requires good trading knowledge, technical and fundamental analysis and knowing when to enter and exit.

It will work on spot or futures trading using compound strategies, and it's effective enough for short-term trading,
provided you've got strong enough capital to keep making incremental purchases 2x more than the initial purchase.

That's Martingale on steroids, a 8 consecutive loss chain will need you to go to have 500x your initial bet in capital and risk all that to gain one unit, the risk of one more going also bad would see you unable to compensate with a new trade, and when you arrive at the point of making 100 trades, risking thousands of dollars for getting at most a few dozen dollars a day you're better playing roulette or dice.

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April 07, 2024, 02:09:13 PM
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I saw a video on Youtube where the trader is able to make money trading, even when he is wrong...

The key points:

He is able to be in drawdown from 8 trades in a row, because he is not risking a large lot size per trade.

He knows the market will retrace back or close to the original first trade,

The newer trades act as the profitable trades to dampen the loss from the earlier trades

I am not an english native speaker so I dont understand everything in the video..do you know where I could find more info on this strategy in text/pdf?

Is it possible to share the video here in case someone is intersted in sharing more details about this strategy?


You definitely don't believe everything you see on YouTube because what happened to them is not what will happen to you, but you can't believe everything on YouTube. But if you are new to trading, you must trade very carefully because your trade can be damaged due to a little carelessness. You must have a long-term plan in trading. If you can trade with a long-term plan after checking the market, you will definitely be a successful trader.

This is what those youtuber do, they always want to make their videos engaging and they need a tool that can easily attract people which is money since this is hot tool which can attract a lot of people. That's why here are these people the same with OP think that what they show is legitimate since they see that those people earning good on video. People need to have critical thinking that if these people really could able to for sure they would mot share their secrets and most provably that they are in focus to earn a lot of money on the methods they know and these people will not spend or waste their time creating videos since it will just add up to their work.  People should know that they don't need someone to earn on trading. But they could do something so that they can enhance their skills and they can avoid those people who says something unrealistic.

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April 08, 2024, 01:35:19 PM
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One of the problems of new traders especially the newbies is that they would want to use small money to trade and earn faster in the market using a large leverage. We should not use more than 10x as a trader and that should not make us copy other traders to use higher leverage especially when we don't know the amount of capital they are using to trade. It is better we follow our own rules so that we can profitable in the crypto market. Greed has always been the problem and we should make sure we take our eyes from that.

When you are just a newbie in the field of crypto trading, there is no need to rush just to get a big profit. At least 3–5% should be satisfied with that first, while you are learning trading.
The problem is that others are envious of other traders that they watch on YouTube, thinking that they will experience the same thing.

That's why it's important to learn the basics first in order not to look like a fool because you always think it's a get-rich-quick scheme; that's not the mindset of a newbie in trading.

That is the problem with most beginner. What they want is a 100x or 20% gain right away and that puts them in a wrong direction trading. What traders need is a consistent approach. And with that approach, you don't need to right 100% all the time. You just need to in sync with the marketplace more often than not. have good risk reward and follow it consistently.

The thing is, we don't really trade the markets. We trade are beliefs of what will the market do next base on our own analysis. With that beliefs is how we put our trades and investments. SO in order to be a better and successful trader, you must learn t o be able to read price on your own, make your own beliefs on the market, and trade it with the best of your abilities consistently every trading day.

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April 11, 2024, 05:24:03 AM
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Overall, such actions will only be able to be done by traders who already have a high level of experience in the world of trading, which means that it is unlikely that this method can be thought of by novice traders, and yes I quite agree with your idea here that there is a possibility that this method will actually mislead beginners when they see the video. Trading is always about the possibility of profit and the possibility of loss and a loss is a loss, even if you can turn a loss into a recovery or even a profit but yes not all loss situations can be tricked that way.

Yes it is true that videos like this are very likely to make a beginner change his perspective and thoughts about trading, it is possible for them to think that "it doesn't matter if I lose because I can recover the situation into profit by doing the way I saw in the video", when in reality it is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand, meaning that such events will not be able to always be repeated, only occasionally and only when market movements are in your favor.
A loss is not a loss (a permanent one) if you manage to recover it but this is not only possible on some type of trades and then if the trader is using a stop loss. Once a permanent loss is experienced on one trading session, we can still get lucky next time to win our trades which can act as a compensation to what we have lost last time.

To have a positive mindset is much better than having a negative one, as that can make them to try again after a couple of failures and that is going to be a key to their success, not that if you are going to be scared and possibly quit because you think there is no hope anymore no matter what you are doing.

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April 11, 2024, 05:43:04 AM
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I saw a video on Youtube where the trader is able to make money trading, even when he is wrong...

The key points:

He is able to be in drawdown from 8 trades in a row, because he is not risking a large lot size per trade.

He knows the market will retrace back or close to the original first trade,

The newer trades act as the profitable trades to dampen the loss from the earlier trades

I am not an english native speaker so I dont understand everything in the video..do you know where I could find more info on this strategy in text/pdf?

Is it possible to share the video here in case someone is intersted in sharing more details about this strategy?



It's actually true that their are some good and genuine content creator on YouTube, but I can attest to it that, the fake and unreliable ones are more than the genuine ones, concerning the trading aspect, the major causes of traders losing money in trading is as a result of watching two three or four videos on YouTube and think that they are ready, not knowing that their is more to trading than just watching few videos on YouTube and thinks that they have known it all.

For you to be successful in trading, you need to have knowledge of what you are doing first, then patience comes second, and knowing how to control your emotions, knowing how to use your leverage properly, knowing when to stay off the market and many other things you have to masters before venturing into trading, if not, you will keeps on liquidating yourself in the market.











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April 11, 2024, 07:42:08 AM
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Isn't all the people selling signals the only real version of how to make money while being wrong? Lol

I used to feel sorry for people paying to buy losing signals. Now I think they just deserve it.

One of the problems of new traders especially the newbies is that they would want to use small money to trade and earn faster in the market using a large leverage.

That's not a problem actually, that's an expected situation. The real problem isn't about what 'traders' do it's about that these aren't even traders. They don't have the right mindset, these are gamblers.

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