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April 03, 2024, 01:36:12 AM
Merited by hugeblack (4), Lucius (1), Don Pedro Dinero (1), Plaguedeath (1)
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Received a first merit with this post, 7 merit for this post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462047.msg62649380#msg62649380

Post time is August 05, 2023, 05:03:01 AM and that post was edited on January 08, 2023. Huh
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You didn't understand my thoughts, tokens can be traded on both centralized exchange and all decentralized exchange on the blockchain they're operating from. An example is tokens on Ethereum blockchain, all tokens that was created on Ethereum blockchain can be traded on the blockchain and they also get the opportunity to trade on centralized exchange which increase the exchange they can be traded on. But coins can't trade on Ethereum decentralized exchange except only Ethereum which is a coin and parent coin of the blockchain. Both coins and tokens can find it hard to get listed on popular exchange therefore this isn't a point, some times tokens get more advantage to be listed on centralized exchange since they can be easier implemented on the exchange but coins can't. Also coins don't get much interest from traders or investors since how to store them isn't known yet but tokens on Binance or Ethereum blockchain can be stored on popular wallets so investors and traders pick interest in them more. I'm putting into consideration if both the token and coins has similar popularity.
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That post received 7 merits.

Another merited post in question, 26 merits.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482609.msg63543457#msg63543457
Bitcoin dip below $40,000 yesterday which most people thought was going to be the support or lowest price of the market as we were all bullish after Bitcoin ETF got approval from the security & exchange commission. The price of Bitcoin has recovered to trading above $40,000 but it might dip again therefore I'm writing this thread to advice the forum members not to panic. I haven't been too long in the industry as I started my journey recently but during my research and comparing Bitcoin prices before and after the halving, I noticed Bitcoin has never crossed the ATH before the halving but many people are thinking it'll do that this year rather I noticed that it always dips before the halving and that what is happening to the market therefore we shouldn't not be alarmed, this is what happens always from the history of Bitcoin and history always repeats in the market. Lets be guided and don't lose faith as the market is only dipping not crashing.

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War can never stop existing but it can be reduced to the bare minimum because as civilization continue to grow government has started realizing that there's no benefits from killing ourselves just because of war that dialoguing can easily resolved. War is part of human begin exitance as it has been around for a very long time.

As an advance form of human existence we have to be different. This is the reason I dislike Vladimir Putin for putting Ukraine through the situation they're going through now. He didn't have to go to world with them, he should have been the bigger person and not invaded Ukraine. Ukraine are also at fault but they both should have found a war to resolved their conflict without putting their innocent citizens that consist of young boys and girls at risk of getting hit by missiles and guns. We can reduced the wars by dialoguing and resolved whatever conflict any two or more nations are facing. We have some evil business man that invest heavily in firearms and they're those secretly sponsoring this wars going on in different countries. The government need to find this people and put an end to their betrayal to humanity. We should be able to live in peace and harmony without war.

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For the short term, Bitcoin trading at $50,000 isn't good as many traders will begin to take profits and this will bring selling pressure that'll make Bitcoin to drop in price. A sign to know when to take profit for traders or those that are investing for the short term is when Bitcoin starts getting to many praises and we're not in the bull market season. The hype will make traders and Investors to start taking profits. Another sign is when your exit target has been reached. If you had a target to sell at $50,000, you should sell and not allow other to convince you. Many people will always be saying Bitcoin will continue rising but Bitcoin takes a break after rising for sometime and I think we're around that period that Bitcoin will experience a correction therefore my advice isn't for holders but traders.

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Arsenal has been playing very well this season and I was surprised that they lost against Porto in the first leg of the round of 16 but it was a well deserved victory that arsenal got to move on to the next round. it's unlucky that they will have to play Bayern Munich for the quarter finals. Arsenal is playing very well but Bayern Munich is going to win them. Arsenal has an advantage as they'll playing at home first therefore they should use that and win the game with a high number of goals because Bayern Munich are goal machine and they won't be shy to score you a lot of goals. This match is going to be a good match to watch because Arsenal has alot of things to proven in this game to show everybody's that they have what it takes to becomes the champion of Europe.

Gormicsta beg merit from merit source and distribute it to his farm.

See $weetne$$ sends merit to. Wait for merit source like fillippone, JayJuanGee, The Sceptical Chymist and if merit source merit a post, he will send merit to that post, friends join with more merit.
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=%24weetne%24%24&to=Su-asa
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=%24weetne%24%24&to=Obim34
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=%24weetne%24%24&to=Majestic-milf
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=%24weetne%24%24&to=Fiatless
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=%24weetne%24%24&to=Orpichukwu

Is $weetne$$ a very good poster to earn 201 merit in 60 days with 150 post?

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April 03, 2024, 04:59:22 AM
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You're right that it looks weird. There are too many merits in such a short time, and although the posts are OK and are worthy of some merits it's not normal to receive so many, for example in the speculation threads you don't usually receive many merits. Let's see this one:


Another merited post in question, 26 merits.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482609.msg63543457#msg63543457
Bitcoin dip below $40,000 yesterday which most people thought was going to be the support or lowest price of the market as we were all bullish after Bitcoin ETF got approval from the security & exchange commission. The price of Bitcoin has recovered to trading above $40,000 but it might dip again therefore I'm writing this thread to advice the forum members not to panic. I haven't been too long in the industry as I started my journey recently but during my research and comparing Bitcoin prices before and after the halving, I noticed Bitcoin has never crossed the ATH before the halving but many people are thinking it'll do that this year rather I noticed that it always dips before the halving and that what is happening to the market therefore we shouldn't not be alarmed, this is what happens always from the history of Bitcoin and history always repeats in the market. Lets be guided and don't lose faith as the market is only dipping not crashing.

Although one of those who gives it a merit is DdmrDdmr, who I doubt very much is part of any farm at all, 26 merits for that OP seems clearly too many for what is usually given in that section.

Another one that draws even more attention:

For the short term, Bitcoin trading at $50,000 isn't good as many traders will begin to take profits and this will bring selling pressure that'll make Bitcoin to drop in price. A sign to know when to take profit for traders or those that are investing for the short term is when Bitcoin starts getting to many praises and we're not in the bull market season. The hype will make traders and Investors to start taking profits. Another sign is when your exit target has been reached. If you had a target to sell at $50,000, you should sell and not allow other to convince you. Many people will always be saying Bitcoin will continue rising but Bitcoin takes a break after rising for sometime and I think we're around that period that Bitcoin will experience a correction therefore my advice isn't for holders but traders.

11 merits for that post that is written on page 3 of the speculation section? But if people usually when the thread is on page 3 don't even read the previous comments. I have written posts very similar to that one and I doubt very much that I have received more than a couple of merits, especially if the post is in the middle of page 3.


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April 03, 2024, 05:06:21 AM
Last edit: April 03, 2024, 05:21:11 AM by Plaguedeath
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@OP I absolutely agree with you and I believe they're either controlled by one person or they're friends who make secret agreement without we know it.

Unfortunately, I expect people will disagree with you because they will give many reasons:
1. There are no solid evidence.
2. Merit is subjective and then quoted this message.

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.

If I had demerit, I would give him 200 demerit, he's only deserved to be a Jr. Member rank right now.

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For the short term, Bitcoin trading at $50,000 isn't good as many traders will begin to take profits and this will bring selling pressure that'll make Bitcoin to drop in price. A sign to know when to take profit for traders or those that are investing for the short term is when Bitcoin starts getting to many praises and we're not in the bull market season. The hype will make traders and Investors to start taking profits. Another sign is when your exit target has been reached. If you had a target to sell at $50,000, you should sell and not allow other to convince you. Many people will always be saying Bitcoin will continue rising but Bitcoin takes a break after rising for sometime and I think we're around that period that Bitcoin will experience a correction therefore my advice isn't for holders but traders.
The conclusion of this post is "It's not good to sell Bitcoin at $50K, but if you want, then go for it", the fuck it can received 11 merits.

Prove me wrong they're not Nigerians.


A bit off topic, do people agree if this entry can take the third position?

Check the full list, I would like to hear a solid explanation why this entry deserved to win among other pies.




11 merits for that post that is written on page 3 of the speculation section? But if people usually when the thread is on page 3 don't even read the previous comments. I have written posts very similar to that one and I doubt very much that I have received more than a couple of merits, especially if the post is in the middle of page 3.
I think this is what they see on their screen.


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April 03, 2024, 06:17:42 AM
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OP, why only these guys? Merit exchange exists in any locale. Nigerian, Indonesian, and Bangladeshi occupy leading positions in the exchange of merit within locales. But as long as you don't find any matches, you can't accuse them of farming. The fact that these people may know each other is certain, but this is not a violation. The forum does not provide for how much merit to distribute to whom, and nothing is surprising here either.

But, of course, this behavior is wrong. And those people who will read your accusation today should think about this.

You are in a community that you want to receive feedback from, but by acting selfishly, you will end up receiving a boomerang of indifference from the community.

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April 03, 2024, 06:24:40 AM
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OP, why only these guys? Merit exchange exists in any locale. Nigerian, Indonesian, and Bangladeshi occupy leading positions in the exchange of merit within locales. But as long as you don't find any matches, you can't accuse them of farming. The fact that these people may know each other is certain, but this is not a violation. The forum does not provide for how much merit to distribute to whom, and nothing is surprising here either.

But, of course, this behavior is wrong. And those people who will read your accusation today should think about this. You are in a community that you want to receive feedback from, but by acting selfishly, you will end up receiving a boomerang of indifference from the community.

Hey lovesmayfamilis, I don't know if you have any personal issues with the OP, but I'm surprised you would say that. For starters, the posts he quoted are not from local boards. I know how merit 'exchanges' work on local boards and he's not talking about that here.

That account has received an unusually high number of merits for those posts, which have not been given on a local board, and although from what has been presented there is no conclusive evidence that they are part of a farm they seem to me to be strange behavior to say the least.

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Hey lovesmayfamilis, I don't know if you have any personal issues with the OP, but I'm surprised you would say that. For starters, the posts he quoted are not from local boards. I know how merit 'exchanges' work on local boards and he's not talking about that here.

That account has received an unusually high number of merits for those posts, which have not been given on a local board, and although from what has been presented there is no conclusive evidence that they are part of a farm they seem to me to be strange behavior to say the least.
The exchange of merit was carried out by people from the same locale. Which means they can be friends. Isn't it obvious? I see the speed with which merits were distributed. One can understand that it is impossible to even read during this time, let alone comprehend those posts for which merits were posted. I argue that these cases were planned, but at the same time, how do you want to blame them? Transfer of merits to whom? How? That's why I write that distributing merit exclusively among your friends until it proves an alternative connection is highly condemned by the community. If the connection between these accounts is proven, then the conversation may take a different direction.

But here's the first thing that caught my eye.
https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=bc1qye6z4hvwp272ez3tjgnzw9l359kcaxpf7r4800


Why do you see my attitude towards the OP? I have a good relationship with him. Smiley

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April 03, 2024, 06:44:54 AM
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I don't really understand the context for this thread or may I missing something, so they added new rules that doesn't permit a post to receive more than a specific number of merits ?

Secondly, how is this related to agbe winning the pie contest ? I really don't get the problem , if his pie wasn't worthy then why was it pick to be in the pool selection in the first place? And moreover there is a reason it's called voting, it's a free choice of vote so far as the pie itself is pick or you can better explain how voting works.

I understand that success always draws attention of other people so it's obvious. Like lovemayfamilies said go check out the Bangladesh, Pakistan local then you would see post that says HI or HELLO receive merits and also have you seen the WO thread.
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April 03, 2024, 07:41:21 AM
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I don't really understand the context for this thread or may I missing something, so they added new rules that doesn't permit a post to receive more than a specific number of merits ?

I don't know if this is your rhetorical question or if you really want someone to explain to you to understand better.
It is not about any limits on the number of merits per post, it is already a matter of doubting the manipulation of the merit system and its organized merit exchange. Those are not things we like to see here.

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April 03, 2024, 08:29:08 AM
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Is $weetne$$ a very good poster to earn 201 merit in 60 days with 150 post?
Nope, it's a shitposter and I've added him to my ignore list. Those generic posts in broken English aren't worth reading.

It looks like someone found a way to still rank up shitposters despite the Merit system. He's close to Sr. Member now. Maybe we should raise the Merit requirements for those ranks Cheesy

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Regardless of whether they are friends from the local board, the way merits are distributed indicates that this is a lot of alt accounts or "friends" communicate in the way "I wrote a good post, please check and give merits". It is absolutely certain that it is not a coincidence, because when someone gets 10+ merits on the third page of the topic in the Speculation board for a post that is not special in any way, it is not something that should be considered ordinary.

What also attracts attention is the fact that the merits were given by one user in very short intervals, which clearly shows that the person giving the merits did not read those posts at all.



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It looks like someone found a way to still rank up shitposters despite the Merit system. He's close to Sr. Member now. Maybe we should raise the Merit requirements for those ranks Cheesy


The merit system is not perfect, but without it shitposters and alt farms would have a much easier job. My opinion is that the merit system should be slightly adjusted, so let's say the maximum number of merits that someone can receive from an individual user should be reduced from 50 to say 30 (or less) in one month. This would not solve the problem, but it would slow down the progress of those trying to outwit the system.

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April 03, 2024, 11:08:30 AM
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let's say the maximum number of merits that someone can receive from an individual user should be reduced from 50 to say 30 (or less) in one month. This would not solve the problem, but it would slow down the progress of those trying to outwit the system.
I doubt that's going to change anything. If they have more than 30 sMerit per month, they'll just make their circle of "friends" bigger.

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April 03, 2024, 11:34:50 AM
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@Hhampuz is always a victim of this merit circle jerk because he usually accept participants based on the number of earned merit counts alone.

This farmer buddies is having a sweet payday on Hhampuz arms. Not only from this locale but in general. Usual pattern is WO, All merit source thread and local merit thread. There’s a lot of this gang. Check this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=886039. Some user that gave him merit woke up just to send him a merit.
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April 03, 2024, 12:10:30 PM
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Check with https://x.writefull.com/gpt-detector
48% likely this comes from GPT-3, GPT-4 or ChatGPT.



See $weetne$$ sends merit to. Wait for merit source like fillippone, JayJuanGee, The Sceptical Chymist and if merit source merit a post, he will send merit to that post, friends join with more merit.

Hello BlackBoss and everyone please I don't have a farm and I don't use AI to post. I write from my own little thinking and everything that I write is from how I understood the topic. The results is showing less than 50% because everything that I'm writing is from my own thinking and what helps me to have this thoughts is because of the research that I have been doing. I don't like bots and I don't use chatgpt or any of the AI writing bots therefore please don't make it look like I'm using a bot. I'm not yet very good but with time I'll be better. I have sent merit to different people and not only those that are merited by the merit source. Post that are merited by merit source are post of high quality therefore I don't think I'm wrong meriting them. Please correct me if I'm wrong as I love to learn everyday.

Is $weetne$$ a very good poster to earn 201 merit in 60 days with 150 post?
Nope, it's a shitposter and I've added him to my ignore list. Those generic posts in broken English aren't worth reading.

I'm sorry as I never thought I was one but thank you for pointing that out. I'll work on my post more and maybe in the future I will be able to get myself out of your ignored list. I don't want to look like a bad egg on the forum. More thoughts will be put into my posting. Thank you for the feedback.

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April 03, 2024, 12:20:24 PM
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@Hhampuz is always a victim of this merit circle jerk because he usually accept participants based on the number of earned merit counts alone.

This farmer buddies is having a sweet payday on Hhampuz arms. Not only from this locale but in general. Usual pattern is WO, All merit source thread and local merit thread. There’s a lot of this gang. Check this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=886039. Some user that gave him merit woke up just to send him a merit.

I don't know where you derive your conclusion from but I know is that Hhampuz is not just after high merits but also standard and other requirements necessary. I observe that it is a coincidence where users with high number of merits meet with his requirements and he's satisfied working with them. Take a look at his last slot filled https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5326641.msg63883831#msg63883831 that user was not the one with highest merits but he's picked. Don't make it sound as if Hhampuz is the reason for merit farming here. After checking the comments on your neutral tag, I know the reason why it was there.

I understand that success always draws attention of other people so it's obvious. Like lovemayfamilies said go check out the Bangladesh, Pakistan local then you would see post that says HI or HELLO receive merits and also have you seen the WO thread.

LOL this is not surprising to me because I have seen campaign applications receiving merits too. The fact remains that some local are being central of attention while where real abuse is taking place are ignored.

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April 03, 2024, 03:08:12 PM
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let's say the maximum number of merits that someone can receive from an individual user should be reduced from 50 to say 30 (or less) in one month. This would not solve the problem, but it would slow down the progress of those trying to outwit the system.
I doubt that's going to change anything. If they have more than 30 sMerit per month, they'll just make their circle of "friends" bigger.

In that case, the system should be modified to complicate such merit abuse as much as possible, but I have no doubt that those who want to do something will always find a way. It will be interesting to see if any of those called will express themselves about their "merits activities", which of course is not an obligation, but silence is sometimes louder than words.

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In that case, the system should be modified to complicate such merit abuse as much as possible
The easiest way possible I can think of is to reduce the overall amount of merit that merit sources get each month.

I didn't think that I will ever say this, but maybe we reach the point where there's too much merit going around for this amount of quality posts, which then makes it very easy for shitposters like the one mentioned in OP to advance through ranks.

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April 03, 2024, 03:46:35 PM
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In that case, the system should be modified to complicate such merit abuse as much as possible
The easiest way possible I can think of is to reduce the overall amount of merit that merit sources get each month.

I didn't think that I will ever say this, but maybe we reach the point where there's too much merit going around for this amount of quality posts, which then makes it very easy for shitposters like the one mentioned in OP to advance through ranks.
I don't really think this would actually help because  majority of these merits were not distributed by merit source and so it doesn't really solve the problem.

The number of merits distributed by merit source monthly continues to drop, if you check the DdmrDdmr merit dashboard which is a clear fact that most merit source don't even use much of their allocated Merits because of low quality post and issues like this.

While some of these Merit source may actually just store them others in the WO, just spend it on those who they know won't abuse there and it's quite annoying when I see post about criticism about how spent their sMerits where as most of the merit sources there are still actively distributing merit across each boards to quality posts.

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The number of merits distributed by merit source monthly continues to drop, if you check the DdmrDdmr merit dashboard which is a clear fact that most merit source don't even use much of their allocated Merits because of low quality post and issues like this.
If merit sources are unable to empty their monthly allocation due not enough quality posts, isn't that another argument for reducing the amount of merit that is generated each month?

Last time theymos did a big merit readjustment was ~July 2021 and since then number of posts dropped by 40-50% while amount of merit shared didn't drop that much, which then brings us to these kind of situations.



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The number of merits distributed by merit source monthly continues to drop, if you check the DdmrDdmr merit dashboard which is a clear fact that most merit source don't even use much of their allocated Merits because of low quality post and issues like this.
If merit sources are unable to empty their monthly allocation due not enough quality posts, isn't that another argument for reducing the amount of merit that is generated each month?
Yes it may be reduced base on this reason and not the other. To be frank while others may need this reduction some actually deserves more  especially in the LB or maybe what they may need will be a new merit source but I doubt Theymos might consider this especially with issues relating to this going on.

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Last time theymos did a big merit readjustment was ~July 2021 and since then number of posts dropped by 40-50% while amount of merit shared didn't drop that much, which then brings us to these kind of situations.
Oh to be frank I was not aware of this since I joined the forum  around September 2022 but became active 2023

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The number of merits distributed by merit source monthly continues to drop, if you check the DdmrDdmr merit dashboard which is a clear fact that most merit source don't even use much of their allocated Merits because of low quality post and issues like this.
If merit sources are unable to empty their monthly allocation due not enough quality posts, isn't that another argument for reducing the amount of merit that is generated each month?

Last time theymos did a big merit readjustment was ~July 2021 and since then number of posts dropped by 40-50% while amount of merit shared didn't drop that much, which then brings us to these kind of situations.

Perhaps some of the merit source are inactive or not as active as they used to and that could be another argument for adding another set of merit source to replace those inactive ones. There's always two side to look at for every situation.


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