Solana SSHIB project ignores payment to Bounty Campaign participants (scam)

[OneNutS]

Aladdin Center conducted a bounty campaign for the Solana SSHIB project (https://solshib.space/), which is confirmed by these links:

1) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480104
1) https://t.me/AladdinCenter_ANN/342

Bounty campaign
Started January 02
Ended January 29

Payment of tokens according to agreements with the project team was supposed to take place on March 28.



This payment did not happen - the project team https://solshib.space/ ignores our  and the participants  of the Bounty Campaign the messages  - by blocking method.

We attach you the proof




We ask the team of https://solshib.space/ project to fulfill its obligations - to make payment to the participants of the bounty campaign!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480104



Aladdin Center

[robelneo]

You should move this thread/discussion to the scam section since you attached the word scam in your title, I noticed that you are running a lot of bounty campaigns in the altcoin section but how come you do not have a disclaimer about the campaigns you're running, just like what reputable managers are doing.

You should warned the participants and let them know if you were holding or the one managing the distribution, So they would proceed if they wanted to join or not, relieving you of the blame.
You should have taken the lead of other bounty managers but you overlooked this and ignored to add a disclaimer.

[Helena Yu]

Just another normal thing happened in Bounty project, it's always been said, in order to be safe only accept a project that willing to escrow the reward, but bounty hunters won't hear that.

No ANN thread and no representative account, there's nothing people can do here...

[examplens]

Just another normal thing happened in Bounty project, it's always been said, in order to be safe only accept a project that willing to escrow the reward, but bounty hunters won't hear that.

No ANN thread and no representative account, there's nothing people can do here...

April 2024, bounty hunters continue to spend their time on something that has declared itself as a project, and it is called "Solana SSHIB". 

[logfiles]

Solana SSHIB 
Like, what did you expect from people creating such shitcoins by blindly trusting them?

The least you could have done is tell them to send tokens to an escrow to safeguard the bounty participants. I mean, what do they lose by sending a few useless tokens minted out of a thin air to the participants for their wasted time?

[crwth]

If you have seen sites like Photon-sol listing new tokens every single minute you can choose to invest an amount in there. It's like gambling you know and I think the people that invest in those things are addicted to it and they are probably hoping that these crypto things skyrocket. Bounty hunters should do more research with things like this.

[yahoo62278]

Bounty projects that won't escrow should send users a red flag quick. I stopped accepting bounty requests once a couple got me and didn't pay the users. Then, even if they do pay users there's still more then a 50% chance that they never list anywhere.

@OP stop doing bounties and you won't be upset when they don't fulfill their promises. ICO boom was over many years ago.

[suzanne5223]

Just another normal thing happened in Bounty project, it's always been said, in order to be safe only accept a project that willing to escrow the reward, but bounty hunters won't hear that.

No ANN thread and no representative account, there's nothing people can do here...

April 2024, bounty hunters continue to spend their time on something that has declared itself as a project, and it is called "Solana SSHIB". 

There's nothing bad in bounty hunters spending their time on a project that declared itself a certain name since this is not something new in the meme coin space if you're used to it but what is important is the bounty hunter participating in the bounty where their payment seems safe not just been blinded by the rewards and I hope this will put an end to un-escrow bounty participation.

When I look through the bounty section in other for me to update myself with things happening in the bounty section in case there's a chance for me to work there some time I was surprised to see some bounty hunter's registrations for the bounty that ended long ago which shows that there's a lot of bot among the bounty participants than the real bounty hunters.

[SmartGold01]

At first it's your core responsibilities to secure your participants payment as a bounty manager.
All bounty manager's should put their participants first and not what they received as payment to manage the campaign, whenever I noticed delay in bounty campaign then I term it upon the campaign manager because they were only interested of what the project will pay out to them at that very moments otherwise, what they could have think is to set a standard of securing participants payment before even launching the campaign. I think there are some bounty manager's who is accepting escrow before launching their campaign, this shows that their participants is their most priority than just rushing to accept a campaign and launched before even thinking of paying bounty hunters.

At this point whom do you blame, yourself or the project owners? To me you have yourself to be blame, excepts you made it clear on the campaign thread that bounty is going to be distributed by projects owners that anyone joining is at their own risk. If the project doesn't pay then no one is permitted to hold you responsible.

[yahoo62278]

At first it's your core responsibilities to secure your participants payment as a bounty manager.
All bounty manager's should put their participants first and not what they received as payment to manage the campaign, whenever I noticed delay in bounty campaign then I term it upon the campaign manager because they were only interested of what the project will pay out to them at that very moments otherwise, what they could have think is to set a standard of securing participants payment before even launching the campaign. I think there are some bounty manager's who is accepting escrow before launching their campaign, this shows that their participants is their most priority than just rushing to accept a campaign and launched before even thinking of paying bounty hunters.

At this point whom do you blame, yourself or the project owners? To me you have yourself to be blame, excepts you made it clear on the campaign thread that bounty is going to be distributed by projects owners that anyone joining is at their own risk. If the project doesn't pay then no one is permitted to hold you responsible.

You start by saying that managers should secure payment and not worry about their own pay only, then you end with as long as you put a disclaimer it's ok. You are just a walking contradiction IMO and shouldn't comment just to comment.

Just because a manager doesn't secure a payment doesn't mean they were in a rush. Promises might have been made by a team to the manager, token may not have been generated yet, or whatever other bullshit excuse a team tells a manager. It's not the managers fault more then half the time. There are managers that will just accept any project and not care if anyone else gets paid as long as they do, but hunters should learn and not join that managers campaigns rather than just keep on joining and being disappointed.

Now, I do think that unless tokens are secured, bounties shouldn't be launched anymore. It's getting old to read the same shit over and over. Most don't respect bounty hunters but whether you respect them or not, if they did the work they deserve their pay.

[SmartGold01]

At first it's your core responsibilities to secure your participants payment as a bounty manager.
All bounty manager's should put their participants first and not what they received as payment to manage the campaign, whenever I noticed delay in bounty campaign then I term it upon the campaign manager because they were only interested of what the project will pay out to them at that very moments otherwise, what they could have think is to set a standard of securing participants payment before even launching the campaign. I think there are some bounty manager's who is accepting escrow before launching their campaign, this shows that their participants is their most priority than just rushing to accept a campaign and launched before even thinking of paying bounty hunters.

At this point whom do you blame, yourself or the project owners? To me you have yourself to be blame, excepts you made it clear on the campaign thread that bounty is going to be distributed by projects owners that anyone joining is at their own risk. If the project doesn't pay then no one is permitted to hold you responsible.

You start by saying that managers should secure payment and not worry about their own pay only, then you end with as long as you put a disclaimer it's ok. You are just a walking contradiction IMO and shouldn't comment just to comment. 

Well I don't see it as something contradictory because I look over the said bounty campaign to see if there were a disclaimer guiding the manager and participants about the payment but nothing. If you look very carefully, most campaign I have came across in the bounty section then, even though I wasn't their participants but was reading them to see how it looks like. There is always a disclaimer about payment, but this particular one nothing.

If manager doesn't distribute funds he should clearly state it as disclaimer that he doesn't distribute reward, the team will distribute reward so as to let them know that if the project turns out to be scam s/he won't be held responsible for the lost, other than just keeping mutes which I think is not properly as manager. I believe you are an experience manager and you should know what I am saying more better than me.

As manager you are, you have managed series of campaign and you should know how to secure your participants payment.  Most of the campaign I saw at the bounty sections do say "the bounty payment is guaranteed by them" and also "The bounty reward will be distributed by project team" Hence do your research before joining the campaign, if the project doesn't pay you don't have any responsibility to hold as the manager.

At this point even though the campaign pays or not, you are not to be hold because already you have stated it clearly as disclaimer than just launching a campaign without even saying anything meaningful about the bounty payment. I believe only desperate hunters could rush to participants without questioning about their payment to know before joining the campaign.

You can read the campaign 'Terms & Condition" here If my post is contradictory

● Bounty Campaign Dates: January 02 - January 29 lasts for 4 weeks.
● Tokens will be distributed to participants within 2 months after the end of the Bounty Campaign.
● Daily stakes! Do tasks every day and make reports every 3 days !
●  Tokens will be distributed to participants within 2 months after the end of the Bounty Campaign in the SSHIB Phantom Solana Chain ( https://phantom.app/)

● Join SHIBA|SOLANA on social media:

- Telegram Portal (Mandatory - Tap to verify and join to the link in the chat )
- X (Twitter)
- Medium


● You will receive stakes for performing certain actions, after the end of the bounty campaign, the stakes will be converted into tokens, according to the formula (total number of tokens/total number of stakes)*number of your stakes.
● Please read the terms and conditions carefully. For non-compliance, even minor, you will not receive stakes or will be excluded from the bounty program.
● Use of multi-accounts, spam, bots and other is strictly forbidden, all attempts will be banned.
● Bounty managers reserve the right to change the conditions of the bounty campaign.
● Make reports in a separate post every 3 days. DO NOT QUOTE YOUR OLD REPORT🙏!
● Please, read the terms carefully. For non-compliance with requirements, you will not get stakes or be excluded from the bounty program.

Follow all updates in this thread and Telegram chats: SolanaShiba Portal (Mandatory - Tap to verify and join to the link in the chat ), SolanaShiba Bounty , Aladdin Center

[OneNutS]

You should move this thread/discussion to the scam section since you attached the word scam in your title, I noticed that you are running a lot of bounty campaigns in the altcoin section but how come you do not have a disclaimer about the campaigns you're running, just like what reputable managers are doing.

You should warned the participants and let them know if you were holding or the one managing the distribution, So they would proceed if they wanted to join or not, relieving you of the blame.
You should have taken the lead of other bounty managers but you overlooked this and ignored to add a disclaimer.

Hello.
We run a lot of bounty campaigns and most of them are escrow - which we always indicate in the announcement and rules of the bounty campaign. When payments are made by the project itself (project team) we notify participants in our telegram chat that the project team will distribute the awards

[robelneo]

You should move this thread/discussion to the scam section since you attached the word scam in your title, I noticed that you are running a lot of bounty campaigns in the altcoin section but how come you do not have a disclaimer about the campaigns you're running, just like what reputable managers are doing.

You should warned the participants and let them know if you were holding or the one managing the distribution, So they would proceed if they wanted to join or not, relieving you of the blame.
You should have taken the lead of other bounty managers but you overlooked this and ignored to add a disclaimer.

Hello.
We run a lot of bounty campaigns and most of them are escrow - which we always indicate in the announcement and rules of the bounty campaign. When payments are made by the project itself (project team) we notify participants in our telegram chat that the project team will distribute the awards

What's stopping or holding you from creating a disclaimer of course it is part of your job to announce when is the distribution, but giving them a heads up that participants are joining at their own risk is also part of your job, as if you are 100% sure of the distribution so you don't need a disclaimer?

Anyway, there is no guarantee in the altcoin bounty, they will either decline to distribute or they will distribute after the coin/token has no value.

Edit; So you beat the participants from complaining first because you want to wash your hands?

[Eternad]

Hello.
We run a lot of bounty campaigns and most of them are escrow - which we always indicate in the announcement and rules of the bounty campaign. When payments are made by the project itself (project team) we notify participants in our telegram chat that the project team will distribute the awards

As the bounty manager, your role is to secure payment of participants because you are the one launching it here and not the team. Bounty hunters is joining because “you” are the one managing it and not the team.

There’s already tons of scam bounty in the past which you are aware and many bounty manager got tagged because they failed to protect their bounty participants. I hope that you will always escrow the payment to protect you and participants because a team that can’t give partial payment is obviously not willing to pay in the end especially of the result of the campaign is not that good.

[OneNutS]

Just another normal thing happened in Bounty project, it's always been said, in order to be safe only accept a project that willing to escrow the reward, but bounty hunters won't hear that.

No ANN thread and no representative account, there's nothing people can do here...

Good afternoon, over time we have brought many projects for our hunters that escrowed an award (90% escrow, 10% non escrow). Of the 10% that didn't escrow the award - half of them paid their awards, but those 5% - we couldn't do anything with them

So this time, by popular demand from our hunters, we created this thread.

At first it's your core responsibilities to secure your participants payment as a bounty manager.
All bounty manager's should put their participants first and not what they received as payment to manage the campaign, whenever I noticed delay in bounty campaign then I term it upon the campaign manager because they were only interested of what the project will pay out to them at that very moments otherwise, what they could have think is to set a standard of securing participants payment before even launching the campaign. I think there are some bounty manager's who is accepting escrow before launching their campaign, this shows that their participants is their most priority than just rushing to accept a campaign and launched before even thinking of paying bounty hunters.

At this point whom do you blame, yourself or the project owners? To me you have yourself to be blame, excepts you made it clear on the campaign thread that bounty is going to be distributed by projects owners that anyone joining is at their own risk. If the project doesn't pay then no one is permitted to hold you responsible.

During the period of our work - we try as much as possible to bring a bounty campaign that will be ESCROW
We prioritize bounty hunter! And at one time in the bounty announcements thread we started to specify ESCROW, which made a BOOM with campaigns, which we are very happy and support our colleagues in it

But there are sometimes good projects that do not want to escrow the reward, in this case the project allocated 10 k $ in tokens at the time of distribution - after analyzing the project we agreed to run the campaign with the hope that the payment will happen - the project worked and continues to work, the team was active with us in chat - but at the end of the campaign we began to ignore and eventually we were banned, participants who raised the issue of payment in chat were also banned.

Yes you are right, if the campaign is not escrow - everyone goes at his own risk.

But the main thing for us is the opinion of hunters - they asked to publish a post about it here on the forum - we did - whether it will help us to get paid - we will see.

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[aioc]

Just another normal thing happened in Bounty project, it's always been said, in order to be safe only accept a project that willing to escrow the reward, but bounty hunters won't hear that.

No ANN thread and no representative account, there's nothing people can do here...

Good afternoon, over time we have brought many projects for our hunters that escrowed an award (90% escrow, 10% non escrow). Of the 10% that didn't escrow the award - half of them paid their awards, but those 5% - we couldn't do anything with them

So this time, by popular demand from our hunters, we created this thread.

So on the 10% that did not do escrow have you warned that the tokens were not escrowed and you have given warnings that you are not liable if they did not honor their words, and you gave them a notification of the risk if the token were not escrowed or you just want more participants on your campaign, so you do not warned them.

[OneNutS]

At first it's your core responsibilities to secure your participants payment as a bounty manager.
All bounty manager's should put their participants first and not what they received as payment to manage the campaign, whenever I noticed delay in bounty campaign then I term it upon the campaign manager because they were only interested of what the project will pay out to them at that very moments otherwise, what they could have think is to set a standard of securing participants payment before even launching the campaign. I think there are some bounty manager's who is accepting escrow before launching their campaign, this shows that their participants is their most priority than just rushing to accept a campaign and launched before even thinking of paying bounty hunters.

At this point whom do you blame, yourself or the project owners? To me you have yourself to be blame, excepts you made it clear on the campaign thread that bounty is going to be distributed by projects owners that anyone joining is at their own risk. If the project doesn't pay then no one is permitted to hold you responsible.

You start by saying that managers should secure payment and not worry about their own pay only, then you end with as long as you put a disclaimer it's ok. You are just a walking contradiction IMO and shouldn't comment just to comment. 

Well I don't see it as something contradictory because I look over the said bounty campaign to see if there were a disclaimer guiding the manager and participants about the payment but nothing. If you look very carefully, most campaign I have came across in the bounty section then, even though I wasn't their participants but was reading them to see how it looks like. There is always a disclaimer about payment, but this particular one nothing.

If manager doesn't distribute funds he should clearly state it as disclaimer that he doesn't distribute reward, the team will distribute reward so as to let them know that if the project turns out to be scam s/he won't be held responsible for the lost, other than just keeping mutes which I think is not properly as manager. I believe you are an experience manager and you should know what I am saying more better than me.

As manager you are, you have managed series of campaign and you should know how to secure your participants payment.  Most of the campaign I saw at the bounty sections do say "the bounty payment is guaranteed by them" and also "The bounty reward will be distributed by project team" Hence do your research before joining the campaign, if the project doesn't pay you don't have any responsibility to hold as the manager.

At this point even though the campaign pays or not, you are not to be hold because already you have stated it clearly as disclaimer than just launching a campaign without even saying anything meaningful about the bounty payment. I believe only desperate hunters could rush to participants without questioning about their payment to know before joining the campaign.

You can read the campaign 'Terms & Condition" here If my post is contradictory

● Bounty Campaign Dates: January 02 - January 29 lasts for 4 weeks.
● Tokens will be distributed to participants within 2 months after the end of the Bounty Campaign.
● Daily stakes! Do tasks every day and make reports every 3 days !
●  Tokens will be distributed to participants within 2 months after the end of the Bounty Campaign in the SSHIB Phantom Solana Chain ( https://phantom.app/)

● Join SHIBA|SOLANA on social media:

- Telegram Portal (Mandatory - Tap to verify and join to the link in the chat )
- X (Twitter)
- Medium


● You will receive stakes for performing certain actions, after the end of the bounty campaign, the stakes will be converted into tokens, according to the formula (total number of tokens/total number of stakes)*number of your stakes.
● Please read the terms and conditions carefully. For non-compliance, even minor, you will not receive stakes or will be excluded from the bounty program.
● Use of multi-accounts, spam, bots and other is strictly forbidden, all attempts will be banned.
● Bounty managers reserve the right to change the conditions of the bounty campaign.
● Make reports in a separate post every 3 days. DO NOT QUOTE YOUR OLD REPORT!
● Please, read the terms carefully. For non-compliance with requirements, you will not get stakes or be excluded from the bounty program.

Follow all updates in this thread and Telegram chats: SolanaShiba Portal (Mandatory - Tap to verify and join to the link in the chat ), SolanaShiba Bounty , Aladdin Center

The point of this thread is not that bounty hunters didn't know how to escrow or not escrow a bounty.

We carefully check our hunters - and each of them is in our Telegram chat - where the issue of payments is always discussed! Participants knew from the very beginning that this award was not an escrow award!

Regarding the fact that the topic does not indicate whether it is escrow or not, I agree with you - as I said above, we have the majority of escrow campaigns - and when it is not escrow, we simply do not add it.
This has been taken into account for the future, if we have a good project that does not want a escrow reward - we will definitely indicate this

so the essence of this topic is not the escrow - but the fact that the participants do not receive their reward - whoever raises this topic in the project chat is immediately banned - so the hunters asked us to make a thread - so that they would be heard!
Thanks for understanding

What's stopping or holding you from creating a disclaimer of course it is part of your job to announce when is the distribution, but giving them a heads up that participants are joining at their own risk is also part of your job, as if you are 100% sure of the distribution so you don't need a disclaimer?

Anyway, there is no guarantee in the altcoin bounty, they will either decline to distribute or they will distribute after the coin/token has no value.

Edit; So you beat the participants from complaining first because you want to wash your hands?

I completely agree with you - we have missed this value (because we are sure that the participants already understand where they are taking part) and he can always ask our managers if this is a reward escrow

In these cases, of course, everyone went at their own peril and risk - and everyone hoped for Payments - and we hoped that this would happen! But the campaign behaved ugly towards the participants, towards us - and continues its activities

We love and appreciate our bounty members - those who have been with us for a long time know this very well - we personally understand that this thread may not move them (https://solshib.space/) from their place - but it will become easier for us at least from the fact that we stood up for our participants and raised this topic for many.

Regarding your "Edit" point - we are not making excuses, the hunters asked us to be the first to bring this up - that is why we are here now and we are having this discussion - for the benefit of our hunters

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[Coyster]

OP, making multiple posts in a row in not allowed in the forum, merge what you want to say in one post. You do not have to reply to each user in a new post.

We love and appreciate our bounty members - those who have been with us for a long time know this very well - we personally understand that this thread may not move them (https://solshib.space/) from their place - but it will become easier for us at least from the fact that we stood up for our participants and raised this topic for many.

Good a thing that you know this thread wouldn't yield anything towards getting the participants paid. Projects like these do not care about their reputation, and they may prolly not get listed anywhere, so it is useless from the get-go. Bounty participants know this, but they hope to get the lucky one that pays them, so no need "standing up" for them.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Bounty hunters should do more research with things like this.

What are you talking about ? Today's bounty hunters are two or three farms that have dozens of new accounts, which they regularly use for registration wherever there is a smell of new coins. As long as bounties exist, such hunters will promote them, regularly complaining about non-payments but, having a very short memory, registering again without any research.
Some people's behavior does not change for years. Having once heard that someone once made a lot of money in a bounty, these people will try and hope year after year, I agree that this is, to some extent, gambling. Although what they call work is simply ridiculous by definition.

[SmartGold01]

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During the period of our work - we try as much as possible to bring a bounty campaign that will be ESCROW
We prioritize bounty hunter! And at one time in the bounty announcements thread we started to specify ESCROW, which made a BOOM with campaigns, which we are very happy and support our colleagues in it

But there are sometimes good projects that do not want to escrow the reward, in this case the project allocated 10 k $ in tokens at the time of distribution - after analyzing the project we agreed to run the campaign with the hope that the payment will happen - the project worked and continues to work, the team was active with us in chat - but at the end of the campaign we began to ignore and eventually we were banned, participants who raised the issue of payment in chat were also banned.

Yes you are right, if the campaign is not escrow - everyone goes at his own risk.

But the main thing for us is the opinion of hunters - they asked to publish a post about it here on the forum - we did - whether it will help us to get paid - we will see.

That is how project owners behave most times I could remember a bounty I joined then, they took very long time to distribute token in a way that hunters was accusing the manager for keeping payment within himself. After much, the project owners later paid the hunters and that was very good, but in the case of your project owner it quite hard to understand whether they still have the hunters at their mind to pay them or not.

But making a post shows that you have removed the allegations from your and it's now laying between project owner and hunters, even though you have created a topic here this doesn't mean that you have the project pays for the waste of time and energy hunters has put to promote their project. Does anyone really have the power to tarnished the image of that project?

No, rather they will deny of everything about what they have discussed with you  but blocking you and anyone who asked about payment shows a clear evidence that they won't distribute rewards to hunters therefore whatever please the hunter they should do to them. If they are listed on CMC every hunter should go give them negative review or rating.