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April 04, 2024, 03:42:26 PM
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Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
It's still a toss-up and thinking this match would be more reliable than casino games is a trap given they've already secured their fair share of money.

Jake Paul might have the upper hand if we look at the odds, but you never know what the other side plans to do, and to me, it's always possible for Mike Tyson to step up even though there's not much on the line.

I'd rather bet my money on another match and betting on casino games doesn't look any worse.

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April 04, 2024, 03:53:15 PM
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if the rules and the right gloves are to be used in this match,  i think Mike will lose. the old Mike has almost chronic backpain. In real life, it's not possible to win against someone as huge as Jake who has also KO'd fighters bigger than Mike. you may think Jake is just a problem child of Disney but he is a real big guy who can box. but this is an exhibition where rules are prepared for Mike not to drop dead.

there could be some Mafia in UFC also just like in Boxing but this is almost rare to be seen by the public eye as is done in the situation of Pikey Mickey. but they give some clues though especially in the rival fighters which they know the fight could become a series up to a trilogy.









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April 04, 2024, 03:54:33 PM
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Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

Use whatever method and strategy you like while gambling, take any control measures and precautions as you like, as long as it is all about gambling, you only have the two option of winning or losing and the chances for loosing is still more higher than that of winning, the reason why the house edge will always prevail over the gambler because that is how such is been expected to operate by default, this doesn't mean that we cannot win either, but we lose more often than we win each time we are gambling, while your suggestion may work base on the game type we are playing if it's a luck base or skills to determines our chances for winning.

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April 04, 2024, 03:55:07 PM
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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?
Yes, that is what we name as fixed matches. It's a pretty common phenomeon, especially in minor leagues which don't receive too much attention from public, authorities the media. Coincidentally, I saw today a video on Youtube stating there is going to be an investigation by the politicians in my country to analyze if the national sports industry is fair and legit on its results, of if the games are being fixed. I haven't watched it yet, but I will soon, because there are going to be interesting news which directly impact our bets results.

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
The possibility the favorite team or athlete loses is always present, otherwise, if the results were assured since before the game started, there wouldn't be a reason to gamble at all. When you gamble, you must be aware about the risk the match is going to be fixed. I don't believe there are any guarantees a match isn't going to be fixed, because no one is trusted on this industry, including the regulators who theoretically ensure the legitimacy of the games and their results.

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April 04, 2024, 03:55:14 PM
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i think cases like this don't only happen in ufc, but also in other sports, such as football, cricket, etc., where teams/individuals who should win are forced to play less optimally in exchange for a certain amount of money. this is quite an unfortunate action, how sports should be honest and fair, but are polluted by acts of cheating carried out by irresponsible parties.

supposedly something like that wouldn't happen if regulators were strict with their competition, but what happens in the field is usually not like that. often regulators don't really care about this and turn a blind eye.

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April 04, 2024, 04:16:22 PM
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What you see in films is very different from real life fights, fighters will always try to maintain their reputation to avoid defeat. In this position, not only money is the main benchmark, prestige, a winning record and the belt that adorns his waist are the most valuable things that money cannot buy.
The fight between Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson was only an exhibition match, meaning whatever the result will not be included in their professional records. Mike Tyson is a great boxer, but now that he has passed his golden age, appearing again in the ring to face Jake Paul is something that should not happen, especially since he is almost 60 years old. What is certain is that this fight will make a lot of money for both of them.

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April 04, 2024, 04:22:19 PM
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We can never ensure that a match is completely free from fixing, this has been a part of it knowingly and sometimes athletes are too involved in it to make more money if they lose than they win but there are also kinds of athletes who play for their pride and never wanted to lose no matter what.

We can't know anything that is why I am putting my money under my fate instead of trusting others.

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April 04, 2024, 04:33:04 PM
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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?


This is not far from what happens around sporting world and betting on it. We need to remember that there is business under these whole thing and that is the more reason that those who are tipped to win certain times don't get to win but how do you know about it? You will never know except an insider reveals to you.

Real gamblers don't take friendly matches seriously likewise fight put out for shows  The upcoming fight is not a serious match and so anything can happen. Mick Tyson might get a bigger tip to lose the match and so be it, he gets to benefit both sides and that gives him more financial balance. We have to always consider the business in such as it may not be winner takes all.

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April 04, 2024, 04:41:35 PM
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That could happen because we may have often encountered things like that. So it is not surprising that things like that will happen in the future, and we should consider them normal.
You don't need to think much about fixing such matches. If you want to place a bet, place it immediately and wait for the results.
If you win, enjoy the result but if you lose, you don't need to be sad.
It's just a gambling game you often play, so consider it mere entertainment.

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Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
Still happening I guess especially with small tournaments and leagues. But with mainstream matches, this is still possible to happen given that big money is involved. However, we know how risky it is to do so since their names are on the line; if it would be discovered then their careers will be instantly over. Perhaps in this match, Mike sells it. If he'd be bashed for it, his brands being promoted would be also at risk and that is something he should consider since no amount of money will be equal to such things and privileges. It would be totally unfair for bettors especially those who are fans of them. Disappointment would be on the line as well.

There are bettors who has access with fixed matches. Unbelievable how they set aside their conscience given how many people are losing big amount of money on matches they believed of.

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April 04, 2024, 05:19:41 PM
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Whatever happened gambling is risk. Tere are several manipulations and favoring side that occurs in sport general. It does not have to do with boxing alone. In sports or entertainment its necessary we understand that realty is involved, and it should be giving concerns before we choose a side. However, it is most found in fight where we can see the dark side of sports, where the rich manipulate the game to fall in their favor. I have seen cases of fighters throwing fights, often due to financial pressure or threats. And i have seen cases where a fighter is been threatened to lose a fight if not something bad would happen to his family. Many other crazy things happen in fight, so for a gambler like me i stick to football gambling so that i won't find myself in such a scenario like this.


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April 04, 2024, 06:18:09 PM
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The world of UFC operates through multiple combinations such as promotion, the fighters contracts, sponsorship revenues and deals, merchandise sales and many many other aspects. Although what you said might be possible, these sport are not based on gambling only.

It is what might be happening in all sports betting and not only UFC, but It is not surprising as we find a lot of manipulation and businesses that take profits behind these sports.  In sports betting and generally in all gambling world, the risk is always present because we put our money on things we're not 100% sure of them working on our behalf, so the right thing to do is to do a lot of researches about anything, understand the odds, and gamble responsibly.

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Staged fight in the world of gambling is something that have been since of old, and even till this moment, it still happens and unfortunately, there seem to be absolutely nothing the ordinary gambler can do about this or such things, if a gambler have a connection with someone who works closely with the organizers of this games or matches, then they can use that to their advantage as such person will always know which fights are staged or rigged, and which are not.

I once have come across a user on telegram who told me had connections with some people who have connection with those who organizes some UFC matches, and the organizers always pass out such information to those in their circle, or matches that they have staged or rigged, and those on that circle now pass out same information to some of their circles as well who are willing to pay them huge sums of money for such information, and the dude on telegram told me that that is how he makes his money from gambling.

So, there is actually such possibility as stated by the op, that some this fighting matches are sometimes rigged, but there is no way the ordinary gamblers can know, expect those with deep pockets who are willing to spend so much to get connected to source that will provide such information to them.

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Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

I guess you should check the "Magic City" serial... S1.E6 "The Harder They Fall" to be accurate. It's actually a reverse story, after a mobster spreads a rumor that he made a bet on an underdog many people decide to follow him and bet big on the underdog. Of course, the underdog lost and many people lost a lot of money, a huge profit for mobster bookies. I am sure there are many different "fixes" in one vs one sports games, and even though I am more into "team sports", I think if we get too deep into conspiracy theories it's better to stop betting on sports in general. 

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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
This is why its called betting and it would really be just that depending on you on whom you would gonna choose for such certain fight. It is really just that cant really be avoided not to think about these probabilities on which it could really actually happen and this is something that will really be leading out into those kind of approach that you would really be thinking about making some counterbets because you've been assuming that this would really be an upset. Tons of times i have witnessed about those upsets in sports on which you couldnt really be able to believe that it did happen on which you could really be basically be able to tell on whose gonna
win on a bright sunny day if we do base up on stats and fighting skills or whatever it is, but it turns out to be a losing one then there's nothing we can do about it.

Intentional loss in bigger leagues or fights is really that hard to be done. Why? the world is watching out and if they have seen something odd then it would really be a huge problem for you as a player/fighter.
They would really be accusing you for it to be intentional.

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April 04, 2024, 07:43:33 PM
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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know?
This is another version of match fixing, and it can be happening under our noses without you having an idea about it.

 Gamblers are at the disadvantage because they never know when these things happen and in a situation where you bet against the house you lose all your money regardless of the statistics that your choice has because even the fighters in this sort of match fixing are very aware. A fighter who is a known loser, may have been loosing and then be fixed to win in a fight where everyone least expects, in these fights, they have the biggest odds, and when they win, the fixers make lots of money as well as those who bet on them, and the fighter.  

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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know?
This is another version of match fixing, and it can be happening under our noses without you having an idea about it.

 Gamblers are at the disadvantage because they never know when these things happen and in a situation where you bet against the house you lose all your money regardless of the statistics that your choice has because even the fighters in this sort of match fixing are very aware. A fighter who is a known loser, may have been loosing and then be fixed to win in a fight where everyone least expects, in these fights, they have the biggest odds, and when they win, the fixers make lots of money as well as those who bet on them, and the fighter.  
Match fixing indeed but just been said by others above that this one cant be totally be applied on big leagues or fights on which the world is watching you and doing such thing would really be raising up tons of questions and would really be raising up some eyebrows and this is where it could be the possibly end line for you once its been proven out. There's no way we could be able to trace it up
that they had bet out on the other side just because they are really that betting up that big. Yes, it do really happens on betting world but knowing it specifically is really that hard to be pointed out.
As long there wouldnt be those kind of solid evidences then the only thing we can do is to assume and its really just that good as that.

We do know that when it comes to probabilities then it could really happen but its unlikely into those sports that been that too big. There would really be those
observing eyes whenever there's something happening which it isnt right.

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The first thing I want to say, it should be noted that films often enlarge or create dramatic narratives for entertainment purposes, to make them more interesting to watch. Meanwhile, when talking about betting on the results of sports matches, including UFC, it is common. However, this betting must be done fairly and transparently, in accordance with applicable rules and regulations. Manipulation of match results, such as the example you give in the film, is illegal and can damage the integrity of the sport.

So it is quite important to always maintain and ensure that the integrity of sports and matches at stake is carried out fairly and transparently. Spectators, gamblers and sports participants need to continue to fight for standards of honesty and fairness in sport.

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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

Mike Tyson is one of the legendary fighter I respected more, if there is any fight I don't think it should be against Jake but what do I know, UFC is now more like entertainment where people are given what they want and not what the fight is really about, I'm not sure if Jake can survive Tyson fist in the first round during his peak but they are fixing the fight to make money from this two individuals and the fact that people knows Tyson world wide will make these game to be more interesting. Some people also think that this fight is just about giving more publicity to Jake since Tyson is legend but will equally make some money as well.

I just hope Tyson doesn't lose this fight to Jake, it will lose its reputation and many wouldn't take them serious again because that's exactly what I'm going to bet onto, Tyson will beat Jake blue black if everything were to be normal. Let's see how "sign the contract" will end.

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April 04, 2024, 08:22:56 PM
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Wouldn't it be cheating if it was proven that one of the fighters who sometimes convinces to win but actually loses in unexpected situations because there is a good bet in terms of profit than the victory is done but sometimes things like this can indeed happen for some cases where we are too blinded by the results that make this kind of setting can happen even though on the other hand not always the winning and favorite fighters will still win in every match because there must be one moment where they can lose.

For the Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson fight, do you believe this fight will be that serious? This is a fight that is full of intrigue from the beginning so we don't need to work hard to bet because the results may not be absolute because from the beginning the purpose of this fight is only for the media not a serious fight so I think for this fight it is better to watch than to bet.

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