Betcoin.ag scam

[holydarkness]

Tbh I had no clue what I was doing, and it looked easier to contact their licensor than an arbitrator. I was looking for help in this thread and the only answer I got was to contact a licensor or mediator, I have no Idea which mediator I could contact and since the licensor is on their webpage I contacted them.

And np I will update with the results

Should you ask, you will be provided. But yeah, it happened anyway, so there's no point in discussing it any further.

It seems weird for me tbh, I had disputes with other sportsbooks before and they were all friendly when I got limited and I had no problem withdrawing my money this is the first time I get an aggresive answer like this in my years of betting

This is the worst support I have ever seen, even the scam russian pages are more friendly than this

Which casinos are these? And I assume you reached them through live support? Because this should be the first correspondence you have with a casino representative on the forum?

Betcoin's representative whose been in touch with you, Emma, is actually polite, if we may infer from a snippet shown on your screenshot.

All things considered, yes, David is still easily reachable. There are other casino representative on this forum who will blatantly ignore a scam accusation. One even specifically asked me to stop reaching them to ask them to resolve a case...which rather piled up [of which I obliged].

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[murkyz]

It seems weird for me tbh, I had disputes with other sportsbooks before and they were all friendly when I got limited and I had no problem withdrawing my money this is the first time I get an aggresive answer like this in my years of betting

This is the worst support I have ever seen, even the scam russian pages are more friendly than this

Which casinos are these? And I assume you reached them through live support? Because this should be the first correspondence you have with a casino representative on the forum?

Betcoin's representative whose been in touch with you, Emma, is actually polite, if we may infer from a snippet shown on your screenshot.

All things considered, yes, David is still easily reachable. There are other casino representative on this forum who will blatantly ignore a scam accusation. One even specifically asked me to stop reaching them to ask them to resolve a case...which rather piled up [of which I obliged].

I used this because they ignore emails now, in the beginning they used to reply fast

This is the first time I use a forum for this, all sportsbook let me withdrew normally after I got limited just after some emails, some took a few months tho like betsson

Some of these sportsbooks: b365, betcris, vbet (same sportbook provider as betcoin), betsson , betsafe, 1xbet, goldenbet, unibet, betwarrior , sports888

Just a small list tbh Im always trying to find new sportsbook that are fine with winning players and so far the only crypto ones that dont limit are: betonline and sportsbetting

And for fiat currency I use brokers

Anyways if theres more ppl looking for legit sportsbook , imo betcoin is the worst one to deal with, only recreational players are welcome in their sportsbooks imo

[murkyz]

Tbh I had no clue what I was doing, and it looked easier to contact their licensor than an arbitrator. I was looking for help in this thread and the only answer I got was to contact a licensor or mediator, I have no Idea which mediator I could contact and since the licensor is on their webpage I contacted them.

And np I will update with the results

Should you ask, you will be provided. But yeah, it happened anyway, so there's no point in discussing it any further.

Uhh I guess I did something wrong, I just got an email from CEG telling me that betcoin isnt licensed by them

What arbitrator can I use?

And how to contact their licensor im super lost on this topic

[Betcoin.AG]

Uhh I guess I did something wrong, I just got an email from CEG telling me that betcoin isnt licensed by them

Anyone in a permitted region can click the license validator on our website and see that our license is fully valid. Where did you get that email address? You can check our terms of service for the correct email.
https://support.betcoin.ag/hc/en-us/articles/15904960262811-Terms-of-Service
While you are there, read the part about multi-accounting and syndicate play. I notice you conveniently didn't name any Bitcoin books from this forum when you listed where you had played. I wonder why. Don't want people to be able to connect your previous dispute? Don't want to call attention to yourself among the other Bitcoin books who read this page? Not to worry, everyone is well aware of your team and what you are doing. Have fun finding a new career.

[murkyz]

Uhh I guess I did something wrong, I just got an email from CEG telling me that betcoin isnt licensed by them

While you are there, read the part about multi-accounting and syndicate play. I notice you conveniently didn't name any Bitcoin books from this forum when you listed where you had played. I wonder why. Don't want people to be able to connect your previous dispute? Don't want to call attention to yourself among the other Bitcoin books who read this page? Not to worry, everyone is well aware of your team and what you are doing. Have fun finding a new career.

I thought betonline and sportsbetting.ag counted as crypto books because I only use them with crypto and had no problems , good limits / great support / and they dont reject people that have an edge on their sportsboook

the only other crypto sportbook that I used was stake but I got limited after 2 weeks and I had no problems withdrawing thats all after those 3 I tried betcoin and this happened ( the rest of crypto sportsbook that I saw dont offer nba props which is the market that i have my biggest edge and wiht highest limits )

I dont work with a team , why do you like to make up stuff?

You can just say that you dont like players that are constant to beat  the books and you only love recreational players that have no clue on what they are doing

[Wapfika]

If i were a multiuser I wouldnt even deposit again after withdrawing the first time I can videocall/sharescreen my monitor or anything to tell them that this is my only account and im the real owner

What dumb reasoning is this to remove the suspicion of having a multiple account? Making another deposit again means you are successful on what you are doing and you want to try more to get more profit while the casino still doesn’t caught you.

This is my first time to see a scam accusation against Betcoin after their previous long time scam accusation that got resolved after few years of debate.

There’s a lot of multiple account scam accusations lately here in the forum. It seems like these users is using some betting method to take advantage to the casino.  

[murkyz]

If i were a multiuser I wouldnt even deposit again after withdrawing the first time I can videocall/sharescreen my monitor or anything to tell them that this is my only account and im the real owner

What dumb reasoning is this to remove the suspicion of having a multiple account? Making another deposit again means you are successful on what you are doing and you want to try more to get more profit while the casino still doesn’t caught you.

This is my first time to see a scam accusation against Betcoin after their previous long time scam accusation that got resolved after few years of debate.

There’s a lot of multiple account scam accusations lately here in the forum. It seems like these users is using some betting method to take advantage to the casino.  

The only reason that I tried betcoin is because im limited on other sportsbook if I were multi accounting on other sportsbook why would I need to use another website im lost

[Betcoin.AG]

the only other crypto sportbook that I used was stake

What an interesting lie, because I just looked up your crypto address and got this

[holydarkness]

Uhh I guess I did something wrong, I just got an email from CEG telling me that betcoin isnt licensed by them

What arbitrator can I use?

And how to contact their licensor im super lost on this topic

Oh wow, what a lucky coincidence, is it not? Do you mind to show us the email sent by CEG saying that? It's quite an interesting mistake, given you said that you reached their licensor because that info is available on their page, so you should see GC, mostly on their footer, the seal of validation one, as shown below,



I wonder what make you lost so far on CEG's complaint site, they have a very different logo, especially as that seal of validation is the one that tipped you off what licensor they're under.

[murkyz]

Uhh I guess I did something wrong, I just got an email from CEG telling me that betcoin isnt licensed by them

What arbitrator can I use?

And how to contact their licensor im super lost on this topic

Oh wow, what a lucky coincidence, is it not? Do you mind to show us the email sent by CEG saying that? It's quite an interesting mistake, given you said that you reached their licensor because that info is available on their page, so you should see GC, mostly on their footer, the seal of validation one, as shown below,

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/04/07/VKt5l.jpeg

I wonder what make you lost so far on CEG's complaint site, they have a very different logo.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/04/07/VKTIT.png

https://ibb.co/T4rGxSQ

that gaming curacao link has a broken button on "contact us" so I ended up googling (?) . The email says its confidental but I guess i can show u a part on a private message

Anyways which arbitrator can I use

the only other crypto sportbook that I used was stake

What an interesting lie, because I just looked up your crypto address and got this

https://i.ibb.co/rbNwcRX/murkyz.png

Do you realize that I used binance and they dont have a different wallet for each costumer?

You should put on your ToS that exchange wallets are forbidden



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[holydarkness]

that gaming curacao link has a broken button on "contact us" so I ended up googling (?)

Hmm?



And you decided to google, perhaps, "Gaming Curacao contact", and [though our result will likely differ, but I believe the order will more or less the same, given the keyword matches] you choose to click on one that clearly have different name?



Anyway, just to satisfy my curiosity and stave off any doubt, do you mind to provide that email from CEG?

Anyways which arbitrator can I use

You're sportsbet related, so I think AskGamblers will fit better. To avoid any confusion and misaddress, this is AskGamblers: https://www.askgamblers.com/

[Betcoin.AG]

Do you realize that I used binance and they dont have a different wallet for each costumer?

Do you realize that we said address, not wallet. I just want everyone to see that even though this guy has been caught lying multiple times in this thread, he is still going to waste ours and an mediator's time and money by taking this to arbitration. An arbitration which he has 0 chance of winning.

So when people ask why our improvements are coming along slowly or why we are doing more KYC on people, it is because people like this ruin the fun for everyone. Why would we put ourselves through this over a nominal amount of money (which we are giving away anyhow) if there was any chance we would lose?

We've already spent too much time on this cheater. We will gladly show proof to an arbitrator or our licensor when needed. @murkyz, choose a good one, because once you lose the first one, we are done.

[holydarkness]

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We've already spent too much time on this cheater. We will gladly show proof to an arbitrator or our licensor when needed. @murkyz, choose a good one, because once you lose the first one, we are done.

Oops... OP, it'll be a very nice opportunity for me to put a disclaimer, lest you lose and proven to be abusing betcoin, then you come and say it's all my fault because I instructed you to go with AG.

That arbitrator above is my mere suggestion. You were asking and I am simply providing one that will handle sportsbet related issue. I am not encouraging or forcing you to take them. Do your own research and weight everything prior to deciding which to take.

As betcoin said, they will take one mediation, and once a ruling is made by that arbitrator, whatever it is, that's it.


p.s.: OP, got your PM, thanks.

[murkyz]

Do you realize that I used binance and they dont have a different wallet for each costumer?

Do you realize that we said address, not wallet. I just want everyone to see that even though this guy has been caught lying multiple times in this thread, he is still going to waste ours and an mediator's time and money by taking this to arbitration. An arbitration which he has 0 chance of winning.

So when people ask why our improvements are coming along slowly or why we are doing more KYC on people, it is because people like this ruin the fun for everyone. Why would we put ourselves through this over a nominal amount of money (which we are giving away anyhow) if there was any chance we would lose?

We've already spent too much time on this cheater. We will gladly show proof to an arbitrator or our licensor when needed. @murkyz, choose a good one, because once you lose the first one, we are done.

Whats interesitng on the graph is that idk the rest of sportsbook but i can guarantee that I never used LTC on stake because they allow USDT. Theres no point for me to use an unstable crypto when I can choose USDT to play with

Uhh okay tbh im new to crypto so im a bit lost here, can some1 confirm that addresses on exchanges are pooled together

I never knew the other sportsbook mentioned on that list so im confused here plus when I look for the litecoin address that I used multiple transaction appears that dont matches with my binance app history

[Betcoin.AG]

On April 2nd I hit 14 ltc on my account (1.4k$ ~)

Theres no point for me to use an unstable crypto when I can choose USDT to play with

More lies. What an embarrassment

[murkyz]

On April 2nd I hit 14 ltc on my account (1.4k$ ~)

Theres no point for me to use an unstable crypto when I can choose USDT to play with

More lies. What an embarrassment

how is that a lie you guys disabled the usdt/busd deposit I even had a chat with your support asking for a stable crypto , they told me they dindt have one so I used LTC

can you read the chatlogs

all my deposits /withdraw from betcoin where with litecoin

but I can proove that all my stake deposits/withdraws where with USDT

so you guys are linking different people due to binance

I just noticed the chico poker network is betonline/sportsbetting.ag which I admited before that I used them and yes I used LTC with them with big transations (they dont limit, insta payout and they have a friendly customer service unlike betcoin) but I can guarantee that I never used LTC on stake and the I have no clue about the other webpages

[Betcoin.AG]

how is that a lie you guys disabled the usdt/busd deposit I even had a chat with your support asking for a stable crypto , they told me they dindt have one so I used LTC

Show me a chat where we said we don't have USDT and I will send you your account balance within 24 hours

[murkyz]

how is that a lie you guys disabled the usdt/busd deposit I even had a chat with your support asking for a stable crypto , they told me they dindt have one so I used LTC

Show me a chat where we said we don't have USDT and I will send you your account balance within 24 hours

heres a screenshot : https://ibb.co/Pm9Lcrs , I took it because I found it weird that you guys didnt have usdt

from that list what looked the most stable one for me was litecoin so I used litecoin

and on ur chatlog it should appear about me asking about the BUSD because I see it there but the chat told me it was disabled

Can I get my 19 LTC asap now? Or is this another scam?

[Betcoin.AG]

heres a screenshot : https://ibb.co/Pm9Lcrs , I took it because I found it weird that you guys didnt have usdt
from that list what looked the most stable one for me was litecoin so I used litecoin
and on ur chatlog it should appear about me asking about the BUSD because I see it there but the chat told me it was disabled

I do see you asking about BUSD. That is not relevant at all to what we are talking about (USDT). Betcoin has had USDT for years. This is quite a hole you are digging for yourself.

[murkyz]

heres a screenshot : https://ibb.co/Pm9Lcrs , I took it because I found it weird that you guys didnt have usdt
from that list what looked the most stable one for me was litecoin so I used litecoin
and on ur chatlog it should appear about me asking about the BUSD because I see it there but the chat told me it was disabled

I do see you asking about BUSD. That is not relevant at all to what we are talking about (USDT). Betcoin has had USDT for years. This is quite a hole you are digging for yourself.

I just sent u a screen shot ( https://ibb.co/Pm9Lcrs ) that theres no USDT in the list of deposit options

?

Can you now let me have my balance within 24 hours or did you scam again