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I did not create a poll for this because the fight seems overmatched but apart from this fight we will also see David Benavidez vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk for the Light Heavyweight title eliminator this double header is solid This is a good tune fight for Tank Davis for a future match up against either Haney or Subriel Matias Lets disscuss the chances of each boxer on their respective match up. Tank Davis vs. Frank Martin: This is a decent title defense, but Martin is expected to be overmatched against Tank. In the 29-year-old’s last fight, he looked bang average, coming close to losing to fringe lightweight contender Artem Harutyunyan. David Benavidez vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk: This would have been an excellent fight five to six years ago when Gvozdyk was younger and still firing on all cylinders. His age [he’ll be turning 37 on April 17th] and his four-year layoff after retiring in 2019 take away much of the interest in this match-up. Source: Tank Davis Vs. Frank Martin, David Benavidez Vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk: PPV Doubleheader Hits Houston - Boxing News 24 ( https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/tank-davis-vs-frank-martin-david-benavidez-vs-oleksandr-gvozdyk-ppv-doubleheader-hits-houston/)
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It's good that the two will finally have a real fight in the ring after that sparring session where Martin told people that it was him who hurt Tank when they sparred. He rated Tank Davis as the second big hitter he faced in sparring ahead of an unknown guy named Pablo, he underestimated Tank's power level in this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfD-2uYkUWcLet's see if he still thinks that Pablo is the power hitter after Tank after Tank knocks him out, the big that he fought was Romero Duno. Though he has good highlights so far in his career I don't think it is enough to beat Tank.
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A good video about this fight, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj-ONC5xQ4Y&t=629sAs per Frank Martin, they had spared before and he held his ground or even get the better of Tank and he said that Davis wanted more after they have been separated. But let's see if this translate in the actual fight as Tank Davis is heavy handed. He is on top of my list as far as power goes and next is Inoue, in the smaller weight class. Fight is still very far we haven't seen the initial press or kick off press conference but this is going to be a big fight for Tank Davis. Not a tune up fight, as others might think of it.
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It's supposedly Frank Martin vs Shakur Stevenson but it was called off. I think Martin is not ducking Shakur, but incentive wise, it was reported that he is going to make at least $1 million and could not be satisfied of that amount.
So for sure there are a lot of upside for him to go and fight a even more dangerous boxer in Tank Davis. They have history as said, sparring sessions that goes and there are reports that Martin hold his ground and give Tank Davis all he can eat. But for me, Martin is more of a volume puncher and he doesn't carry power to knock down Tank Davis and on the other hand, he could taste his first defeat here.
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It's supposedly Frank Martin vs Shakur Stevenson but it was called off. I think Martin is not ducking Shakur, but incentive wise, it was reported that he is going to make at least $1 million and could not be satisfied of that amount.
So for sure there are a lot of upside for him to go and fight a even more dangerous boxer in Tank Davis. They have history as said, sparring sessions that goes and there are reports that Martin hold his ground and give Tank Davis all he can eat. But for me, Martin is more of a volume puncher and he doesn't carry power to knock down Tank Davis and on the other hand, he could taste his first defeat here.
As Martin had previous experience inside the ring with Davis, though only during sparring sessions, we can give that he has somehow idea what Davis can do, what strengths/weaknesses he has. And it may help him think of strategies on how to possibly defeat him in actual fight. But on this fight, more than likely, Davis will be the heavy favourite. Let us see what odds bookies will give to this match. Both are undefeated and on this fight, one will suffer his first loss. That is, if the fight will not end in draw.
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It's supposedly Frank Martin vs Shakur Stevenson but it was called off. I think Martin is not ducking Shakur, but incentive wise, it was reported that he is going to make at least $1 million and could not be satisfied of that amount.
So for sure there are a lot of upside for him to go and fight a even more dangerous boxer in Tank Davis. They have history as said, sparring sessions that goes and there are reports that Martin hold his ground and give Tank Davis all he can eat. But for me, Martin is more of a volume puncher and he doesn't carry power to knock down Tank Davis and on the other hand, he could taste his first defeat here.
As Martin had previous experience inside the ring with Davis, though only during sparring sessions, we can give that he has somehow idea what Davis can do, what strengths/weaknesses he has. And it may help him think of strategies on how to possibly defeat him in actual fight. But on this fight, more than likely, Davis will be the heavy favourite. Let us see what odds bookies will give to this match. Both are undefeated and on this fight, one will suffer his first loss. That is, if the fight will not end in draw. It's just one sparring though if I'm not mistaken. But from my following of boxing, sooner or later those who spar as one point is going to cross path in a real boxing match. So it's just natural for Frank Martin since he has experience against Tank Davis in a sparring that he will chooses him. Even there is also a video of Haney and Tank too spread by Floyd and Ryan Garcia. But it doesn't mean that this sparring is a good gauge in my opinion. Tank is a different animal inside the ring and even if Martin is very confidence as of now that he has chances against this version of Davis, then he might find it not the same anymore, in my opinion.
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It's supposedly Frank Martin vs Shakur Stevenson but it was called off. I think Martin is not ducking Shakur, but incentive wise, it was reported that he is going to make at least $1 million and could not be satisfied of that amount.
So for sure there are a lot of upside for him to go and fight a even more dangerous boxer in Tank Davis. They have history as said, sparring sessions that goes and there are reports that Martin hold his ground and give Tank Davis all he can eat. But for me, Martin is more of a volume puncher and he doesn't carry power to knock down Tank Davis and on the other hand, he could taste his first defeat here.
As Martin had previous experience inside the ring with Davis, though only during sparring sessions, we can give that he has somehow idea what Davis can do, what strengths/weaknesses he has. And it may help him think of strategies on how to possibly defeat him in actual fight. Not the same with this boys is sparring, even if there is a video going around as whether Martin got the better of Tank, or some stories around saying that Tank was mad and wanted to get revenge, this sparring it might not be enough to assessed who are going to win if this is a real fight. But on this fight, more than likely, Davis will be the heavy favourite. Let us see what odds bookies will give to this match. Both are undefeated and on this fight, one will suffer his first loss. That is, if the fight will not end in draw.
So far no odds yet, but I do agree that Davis is going to be a big favorite here. I wouldn't be surprised if the line goes to 4:1 Martin as underdog. Too early for Frank Martin to chase the likes of Tank Davis or even Shakur Stevenson. He needed more experience under his belt to fight this elite at 135.
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As Martin had previous experience inside the ring with Davis, though only during sparring sessions, we can give that he has somehow idea what Davis can do, what strengths/weaknesses he has. And it may help him think of strategies on how to possibly defeat him in actual fight. But on this fight, more than likely, Davis will be the heavy favourite. Let us see what odds bookies will give to this match. Both are undefeated and on this fight, one will suffer his first loss. That is, if the fight will not end in draw.
It's just one sparring though if I'm not mistaken. But from my following of boxing, sooner or later those who spar as one point is going to cross path in a real boxing match. So it's just natural for Frank Martin since he has experience against Tank Davis in a sparring that he will chooses him. Even there is also a video of Haney and Tank too spread by Floyd and Ryan Garcia. But it doesn't mean that this sparring is a good gauge in my opinion. Tank is a different animal inside the ring and even if Martin is very confidence as of now that he has chances against this version of Davis, then he might find it not the same anymore, in my opinion. It's very different in sparring sessions boxers do sparring to discover and develop variations of their fighting style it is more of a light fighting and if two boxers who spar collide in the they can't use the sparring sessions as their insight on how they are going to fight one another. Frank Martin can't use it to make people believe that Tank cannot hurt him, you based it on your opponent's actual fight in the ring now how he does sparring. Frank Martin is the guy who knocks my fellow countryman Romero Duno, this time it's his time to get hurt.
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[...] Fight is still very far we haven't seen the initial press or kick off press conference but this is going to be a big fight for Tank Davis. Not a tune up fight, as others might think of it.
I was about to say this. It must suck for Frank Martin to stay undefeated and rise up the ranks only to be called as a tune up fight hehe. Let's see how he responds about those statements in the ring but I bet he must be fired up while working in the gym right now.
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[...] Fight is still very far we haven't seen the initial press or kick off press conference but this is going to be a big fight for Tank Davis. Not a tune up fight, as others might think of it.
I was about to say this. It must suck for Frank Martin to stay undefeated and rise up the ranks only to be called as a tune up fight hehe. Let's see how he responds about those statements in the ring but I bet he must be fired up while working in the gym right now. As the biggest name in the division, Tank could choose any of the elite champions in the division and it would be considered a superfight. He is choosing Frank Marin instead, who is a good fighter but clearly a step down from Shakur, Haney and Loma. For Frank Martin, after blatantly ducking Shakur, this will be the first we see him tested on this level. He has beaten two undefeated fighters in his last 2 fights, as well as some solid veterans, however we still haven’t seen enough of him to know what his ceiling is. If he didn’t think he could beat Shakur, then how can he be ready for Tank? I think he knows he is expected to lose, but he is just being a good team player for PBC, who is using him as a viable name to build up Tank while protecting him from losing to the non-PBC fighters he continues to avoid.
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[...] Fight is still very far we haven't seen the initial press or kick off press conference but this is going to be a big fight for Tank Davis. Not a tune up fight, as others might think of it.
I was about to say this. It must suck for Frank Martin to stay undefeated and rise up the ranks only to be called as a tune up fight hehe. Let's see how he responds about those statements in the ring but I bet he must be fired up while working in the gym right now. As the biggest name in the division, Tank could choose any of the elite champions in the division and it would be considered a superfight. He is choosing Frank Marin instead, who is a good fighter but clearly a step down from Shakur, Haney and Loma. For Frank Martin, after blatantly ducking Shakur, this will be the first we see him tested on this level. He has beaten two undefeated fighters in his last 2 fights, as well as some solid veterans, however we still haven’t seen enough of him to know what his ceiling is. If he didn’t think he could beat Shakur, then how can he be ready for Tank? I think he knows he is expected to lose, but he is just being a good team player for PBC, who is using him as a viable name to build up Tank while protecting him from losing to the non-PBC fighters he continues to avoid. What do we expect from Al Haymon? While the biggest promotional rivals in the UK and in the US are now working together for the mega fights, PBC remained silent. See how the poster is hyping casuals and the blind PBC fan boys by using the most garbage ranking in the sport. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Anyways, this is probably the best match up inside PBC in this division. Frank got good skills but he is unproven. I used to think about him and Top Rank's hot prospect Keyshawn Davis fighting each other. But this not worthy of a PPV event. Benavidez is fighting the returning and old Gvozdyk. Corrupt WBC once again wanting a share of their purse by making this an eliminator instead of forcing the mandate or stripping Canelo.
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As the biggest name in the division, Tank could choose any of the elite champions in the division and it would be considered a superfight. He is choosing Frank Marin instead, who is a good fighter but clearly a step down from Shakur, Haney and Loma.
He can do that but all these fighters are busy with their respective fight so this fight will be his build-up or conditioning fight to fight Haney, Loma or Shakur if they win in their respective fights his last fight will be one year and he needs to keep his body busy because he will be up to a great fight and Frank Martin is a worthy choice For Frank Martin, after blatantly ducking Shakur, this will be the first we see him tested on this level. He has beaten two undefeated fighters in his last 2 fights, as well as some solid veterans, however, we still haven’t seen enough of him to know what his ceiling is. If he didn’t think he could beat Shakur, then how can he be ready for Tank? I think he knows he is expected to lose, but he is just being a good team player for PBC, who is using him as a viable name to build up Tank while protecting him from losing to the non-PBC fighters he continues to avoid.
Frank Martin has potential and I don't think he likes being used as a fighter to build up another fighter, I'm sure he is training very hard, imagine if he upsets Tank there would be a disruption in the division and will catapult his name to a greater height, he can pull an upset if Tank relaxes and think s that Martin is just a build-up fighter.
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It's supposedly Frank Martin vs Shakur Stevenson but it was called off. I think Martin is not ducking Shakur, but incentive wise, it was reported that he is going to make at least $1 million and could not be satisfied of that amount.
So for sure there are a lot of upside for him to go and fight a even more dangerous boxer in Tank Davis. They have history as said, sparring sessions that goes and there are reports that Martin hold his ground and give Tank Davis all he can eat. But for me, Martin is more of a volume puncher and he doesn't carry power to knock down Tank Davis and on the other hand, he could taste his first defeat here.
Then maybe he will be making better purse on this fight, and I think Shakur is a hard opponent to catch compared to Davis, and Martin probably understand that his style would fit on Tank Davis' style as well. This should be an exciting fight to watch, with Frank Martin being undefeated and has a decent KO rate, I think we will see a knockout here. odds from here ; https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/gervonta-davis-v-frank-martinGervonta Davis -550
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[...] Fight is still very far we haven't seen the initial press or kick off press conference but this is going to be a big fight for Tank Davis. Not a tune up fight, as others might think of it.
I was about to say this. It must suck for Frank Martin to stay undefeated and rise up the ranks only to be called as a tune up fight hehe. Let's see how he responds about those statements in the ring but I bet he must be fired up while working in the gym right now. As the biggest name in the division, Tank could choose any of the elite champions in the division and it would be considered a superfight. He is choosing Frank Marin instead, who is a good fighter but clearly a step down from Shakur, Haney and Loma. For Frank Martin, after blatantly ducking Shakur, this will be the first we see him tested on this level. He has beaten two undefeated fighters in his last 2 fights, as well as some solid veterans, however we still haven’t seen enough of him to know what his ceiling is. If he didn’t think he could beat Shakur, then how can he be ready for Tank? I think he knows he is expected to lose, but he is just being a good team player for PBC, who is using him as a viable name to build up Tank while protecting him from losing to the non-PBC fighters he continues to avoid. And it doesn't make sense though for Frank Martin to duck Shakur for a good money, it's already exposure for him even if he lost as we will see how good he is. But his team back out on the last minute after a verbal agreement from Shakur's camp. It is the money? already good offer from Shakur if it's $1 million and again, other upside on the fight. Later on he will be fighting Tank for let's say the same amount of money? what gives? does he think that he can beat Tank and put him name a top, that Shakur will be the one chasing him? Nevertheless, we really don't know that reasoning, maybe it's that Frank Martin and his camp wanted to test themselves not spar, but a true boxing match and believed that they can upset and take that 0 from Gervonta Davis.
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He can do that but all these fighters are busy with their respective fight so this fight will be his build-up or conditioning fight to fight Haney, Loma or Shakur if they win in their respective fights his last fight will be one year and he needs to keep his body busy because he will be up to a great fight and Frank Martin is a worthy choice
Tank has been sitting around for an entire year. There was enough time to make one of those other big fights before there was any scheduling conflict. Shakur’s next opponent hasn’t been announced yet, so he would have been available. I expect Tank’s next opponent after Frank Martin to be Pitbull Cruz. It’s an in-house fight for PBC and it’s another lower risk opponent for Tank.
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April 16, 2024, 12:25:56 PM |
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He can do that but all these fighters are busy with their respective fight so this fight will be his build-up or conditioning fight to fight Haney, Loma or Shakur if they win in their respective fights his last fight will be one year and he needs to keep his body busy because he will be up to a great fight and Frank Martin is a worthy choice
Tank has been sitting around for an entire year. There was enough time to make one of those other big fights before there was any scheduling conflict. Shakur’s next opponent hasn’t been announced yet, so he would have been available. I expect Tank’s next opponent after Frank Martin to be Pitbull Cruz. It’s an in-house fight for PBC and it’s another lower risk opponent for Tank. Tank should really take the risk and fight Shakur or Loma or any other name fighter at 135 lbs and should be hiding on the reasoning that he doesn't want to lose his 0. His been well protected already by PBC. And it will be an easy road for him to become a champion at 140 lbs if he will take Pitbull Cruz again. He hurt his hands on that first fight, but regardless though, another clear cut path for a belt at 140 lbs for him. And maybe after that, he could be in the mix against Haney and Teo Lopez.
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April 16, 2024, 12:49:16 PM |
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Tank should really take the risk and fight Shakur or Loma or any other name fighter at 135 lbs and should be hiding on the reasoning that he doesn't want to lose his 0. His been well protected already by PBC.
They just obviously giving him more comfort after winning a big fight against Garcia and to be honest, they really need to do that since he can't find some worthy opponent that won't have much risk nowadays because all of the top boxers in their weight division are threats in his clean record. They actually and carefully pick his next opponent so that he won't have a hard time increasing his wins and at the same time keeping his popularity at the peak of his career right now.
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April 16, 2024, 01:49:56 PM |
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Tank should really take the risk and fight Shakur or Loma or any other name fighter at 135 lbs and should be hiding on the reasoning that he doesn't want to lose his 0. His been well protected already by PBC.
They just obviously giving him more comfort after winning a big fight against Garcia and to be honest, they really need to do that since he can't find some worthy opponent that won't have much risk nowadays because all of the top boxers in their weight division are threats in his clean record. They actually and carefully pick his next opponent so that he won't have a hard time increasing his wins and at the same time keeping his popularity at the peak of his career right now. His promoters and managers need to do this so they will have good bargaining in case they negotiate for bigger names they will eventually face big names in boxing like Subriel Matias or Devin Haney, you cannot be a great champion in a division if there are tough fighters in that division that people will think can beat you so I guess after his match against Frank Martin negotiation for big names in boxing will come after this fight. Provided that Martin does not upset Tank.
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April 16, 2024, 02:09:52 PM |
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Tank should really take the risk and fight Shakur or Loma or any other name fighter at 135 lbs and should be hiding on the reasoning that he doesn't want to lose his 0. His been well protected already by PBC.
They just obviously giving him more comfort after winning a big fight against Garcia and to be honest, they really need to do that since he can't find some worthy opponent that won't have much risk nowadays because all of the top boxers in their weight division are threats in his clean record. They actually and carefully pick his next opponent so that he won't have a hard time increasing his wins and at the same time keeping his popularity at the peak of his career right now. His promoters and managers need to do this so they will have good bargaining in case they negotiate for bigger names they will eventually face big names in boxing like Subriel Matias or Devin Haney, you cannot be a great champion in a division if there are tough fighters in that division that people will think can beat you so I guess after his match against Frank Martin negotiation for big names in boxing will come after this fight. Provided that Martin does not upset Tank. Let's wait for the outcome of the fight but most likely Tank Davis will again win via knockout. Tank can't fight Haney or Shakur as I'm sure he will struggle against these two boxers whose hard to catch, they'll not change their style despite of the criticism, it doesn't matter if they look boring as long as they can use their speed as the edge to win the fight, with that said, the undefeated record of Tank might be at high risk.
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April 16, 2024, 02:39:45 PM |
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Let's wait for the outcome of the fight but most likely Tank Davis will again win via knockout. Tank can't fight Haney or Shakur as I'm sure he will struggle against these two boxers whose hard to catch, they'll not change their style despite of the criticism, it doesn't matter if they look boring as long as they can use their speed as the edge to win the fight, with that said, the undefeated record of Tank might be at high risk.
Very good for boxers but very tough for the boxing community, boxing fans want to see the best fight for the best just like they did in the '80s and the '90s where fighters fought for legacy not just for money which is why they are revered until now. In this new generation, only Pacquiao did not duck he fought for the people and legacy, the younger generations should do the same, so that future generations will look up to them.
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