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May 17, 2024, 11:00:57 AM |
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I was about to say this. It must suck for Frank Martin to stay undefeated and rise up the ranks only to be called as a tune up fight hehe. Let's see how he responds about those statements in the ring but I bet he must be fired up while working in the gym right now.
Well, underdogs must exert all effort in their training to give their best inside the ring and when they lose, they still win since they give their best at that time this is a good opportunity for him to steal the show since everyone thinks he ain't capable of giving Davis a hard time in this fight. He just needs to focus on his training and have high aspirations for this fight because that should be how the mindsets of underdogs especially when there is no one out there believes them, should motivate themselves and make firm decisions to improve and beat their opponent at all cost inside the ring.
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May 17, 2024, 11:19:08 AM |
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The thread was created on April 6, however, this is only 2 pages hehehe. This scammer Tank has not much fans. This implies that it was Ryan Garcia that brought more than 80% of the fans to watch his fight vs. Tank. I reckon if Tank does not begin showing knockouts before round 5, he might begin losing his fans. This is only my speculation, everyone can argue and disagree but the number of pages of this thread proves what I said heheheh.
This is what we expect if fans is not that interested in the coming fight as we can consider now that boxing fans is starting to lose their interest instead they are turning into other sports because of issues coming from this sport being corrupt and yeah there are some interesting boxer now but not as famous as how those famous boxers brings in the past.
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May 17, 2024, 11:42:36 AM |
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The thread was created on April 6, however, this is only 2 pages hehehe. This scammer Tank has not much fans. This implies that it was Ryan Garcia that brought more than 80% of the fans to watch his fight vs. Tank. I reckon if Tank does not begin showing knockouts before round 5, he might begin losing his fans. This is only my speculation, everyone can argue and disagree but the number of pages of this thread proves what I said heheheh.
This is what we expect if fans is not that interested in the coming fight as we can consider now that boxing fans is starting to lose their interest instead they are turning into other sports because of issues coming from this sport being corrupt and yeah there are some interesting boxer now but not as famous as how those famous boxers brings in the past. Forget about that, fans would easily change how they feel, they might hate a boxer but they still watch it. For example, before we knew Mayweather has a lot of haters but yet we are still watching his fight, in fact, he made a lot of money during his fight with Pacman, and Connor. As they sad, bad publicity is still a publicity, so if we continue talkinga about him, that means we are still interested in him.
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May 17, 2024, 03:25:03 PM |
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This just comes out and its been on major boxing news channels, WBA adds then takes out the rehydration clause for the coming Tank Davis - Frank Martin This would have been a departure from the IBF rules, which include a 10-pound rehydration clause. Gilberto Mendoza, WBA President, made the suggestion based on ‘recent events,’ hinting that it could be done to prevent fighters from coming in much bigger. Devin Haney rehydrated to 165 pounds after hitting the 140 limit for his fight with Regis Prograis. Since there is no rehydration clause, both fighters can get into the ring much bigger than their weigh-in weight and could use this as an advantage over the other fighter. Haney did this against Prograis when he rehydrated to 165 after hitting 140, and Ryan Garcia returned the favor against Haney. Since there is no rehydration clause anymore, we will see in the actual fight who rehydrated and used it to his advantage; for me Frank Martin will use this and rehydrate and add a lot of weights since Tank has been known to use his speed on many of his fights.
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May 17, 2024, 07:44:41 PM |
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^^ I don't know who to believed in this one though, as it was also reported that, WBA Mandates 12-Pound Rehydration Clause For Davis Vs. Martin, Sparking Confusion[url]
WBA president Gilberto Mendoza told Chris Mannix on X that his organization made the decision to have a 12-round rehydration clause for the Davis-Martin fight “based on recent events.” However, Mendoza didn’t say if the New rule would be in play for all WBA fights sanctioned by the organization. The New WBA rule caught Tank Davis (29-0, 27 KOs) by surprise because he didn’t know about it until yesterday. Fans on social media are calling it the ‘Tank rule,’ believing he’s behind it to ensure that his opponents are drained enough for him to win. Tank also has to abide by the 12-pound rehydration rule, so it’s not like it’s something that only applies to his opponents.
And with that, let's see, this is really controversial and this could be the start of maybe all governing bodies now might implement this rehydration clause. And we all know who started all of this being added to the contract so take advantage of his opponents. But now it seems both fighters will have to follow it now so that if in any case, both could be weight drain in the fight.
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May 18, 2024, 01:11:29 PM |
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^^ I don't know who to believed in this one though, as it was also reported that, WBA Mandates 12-Pound Rehydration Clause For Davis Vs. Martin, Sparking Confusion[url]
WBA president Gilberto Mendoza told Chris Mannix on X that his organization made the decision to have a 12-round rehydration clause for the Davis-Martin fight “based on recent events.” However, Mendoza didn’t say if the New rule would be in play for all WBA fights sanctioned by the organization. The New WBA rule caught Tank Davis (29-0, 27 KOs) by surprise because he didn’t know about it until yesterday. Fans on social media are calling it the ‘Tank rule,’ believing he’s behind it to ensure that his opponents are drained enough for him to win. Tank also has to abide by the 12-pound rehydration rule, so it’s not like it’s something that only applies to his opponents.
And with that, let's see, this is really controversial and this could be the start of maybe all governing bodies now might implement this rehydration clause. And we all know who started all of this being added to the contract so take advantage of his opponents. But now it seems both fighters will have to follow it now so that if in any case, both could be weight drain in the fight. The boxing governing bodies should have one rule about this rehydration clause and see what's best for the fighters. Still, for me, there should be no rehydration clause and allow the fighters to be at their best in the fight, so there will be no alibi about the weight if the other fighter loses the fight., for me, there should be no rehydration clause and allow the fighters to be at their best in the fight, so there will be no alibi about the weight if the other fighter loses the fight. Ryan Garcia keeps blaming the rehydration clause on why he lost the fight; it's hard to see fighters struggling in the ring at the time of the fight because of the rehydration clause, so for me, it's better to do away with it. Of course, this is only my opinion; some fighters want to take advantage of their opponents even before the fight starts.
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May 18, 2024, 01:26:59 PM |
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^^ I don't know who to believed in this one though, as it was also reported that, WBA Mandates 12-Pound Rehydration Clause For Davis Vs. Martin, Sparking Confusion[url]
WBA president Gilberto Mendoza told Chris Mannix on X that his organization made the decision to have a 12-round rehydration clause for the Davis-Martin fight “based on recent events.” However, Mendoza didn’t say if the New rule would be in play for all WBA fights sanctioned by the organization. The New WBA rule caught Tank Davis (29-0, 27 KOs) by surprise because he didn’t know about it until yesterday. Fans on social media are calling it the ‘Tank rule,’ believing he’s behind it to ensure that his opponents are drained enough for him to win. Tank also has to abide by the 12-pound rehydration rule, so it’s not like it’s something that only applies to his opponents.
And with that, let's see, this is really controversial and this could be the start of maybe all governing bodies now might implement this rehydration clause. And we all know who started all of this being added to the contract so take advantage of his opponents. But now it seems both fighters will have to follow it now so that if in any case, both could be weight drain in the fight. The boxing governing bodies should have one rule about this rehydration clause and see what's best for the fighters. Still, for me, there should be no rehydration clause and allow the fighters to be at their best in the fight, so there will be no alibi about the weight if the other fighter loses the fight., for me, there should be no rehydration clause and allow the fighters to be at their best in the fight, so there will be no alibi about the weight if the other fighter loses the fight. Ryan Garcia keeps blaming the rehydration clause on why he lost the fight; it's hard to see fighters struggling in the ring at the time of the fight because of the rehydration clause, so for me, it's better to do away with it. Of course, this is only my opinion; some fighters want to take advantage of their opponents even before the fight starts. I would agree with your point of view, me as well I don't want to have this rehydration clause but it seems that it's now on the spotlight and again it should be noted that this could have been used by other boxers as well to be in included in their contract and it was just magnified by Ryan Garcia when he lost to Tank Davis. On the other hand, that's why we have weight classes. I mean boxers should stay within that weight limit because going to let's say rehydrate to 147 lbs or even higher in a fight night when you are a lightweight at 135 lbs, you could have fair advantage at fight night because you will be the bigger fighter and not fighting in your weight class.
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May 19, 2024, 09:31:37 PM |
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I would agree with your point of view, me as well I don't want to have this rehydration clause but it seems that it's now on the spotlight and again it should be noted that this could have been used by other boxers as well to be in included in their contract and it was just magnified by Ryan Garcia when he lost to Tank Davis.
On the other hand, that's why we have weight classes. I mean boxers should stay within that weight limit because going to let's say rehydrate to 147 lbs or even higher in a fight night when you are a lightweight at 135 lbs, you could have fair advantage at fight night because you will be the bigger fighter and not fighting in your weight class.
This issue was not touched until now or when Ryan Garcia lost to Ryan Garcia because of this clause in the past boxers could rehydrate after their weight in, in the past I have seen boxers like Pacquiao eating Filipino dishes and a lot of rice so he can regain his power and fluid he losses before the weigh-in. I have seen boxers struggling to make the weight, and they looked so thin that if the fight is held an hour before the weigh-in, I don't think they can last a round because of their weakness. They are so drained that in the contract, they added a hydration clause to a certain amount of weight. In the past, when weigh-ins were done on the same day of the fight, now they are allowed 30 hours to rehydrate a significant amount of weight to regain their power or add more on fight night.
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There were plenty of upsets happening lately, Denys Berinchyk won the WBO belt at 135 against 3 division world champion Emanuel Navarette. Joe Cordina lost his belt, Giovanni Santillan also losing his interim belt and avoided heavyweight technician Frank Sanchez was stopped. So I am also hoping Frank Martin to pull an upset here and steal that WBA email belt. I find Tank an explosive and exciting fighter but he is cherry picking for many years and is a coward to fight against the other champions for many years so Frank Martin winning is better for the sport. We want to see another undisputed champ in this division soon.
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May 21, 2024, 08:28:47 PM |
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There were plenty of upsets happening lately, Denys Berinchyk won the WBO belt at 135 against 3 division world champion Emanuel Navarette. Joe Cordina lost his belt, Giovanni Santillan also losing his interim belt and avoided heavyweight technician Frank Sanchez was stopped. So I am also hoping Frank Martin to pull an upset here and steal that WBA email belt. I find Tank an explosive and exciting fighter but he is cherry picking for many years and is a coward to fight against the other champions for many years so Frank Martin winning is better for the sport. We want to see another undisputed champ in this division soon.
LOL, I almost blew my coffee when this comment, ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . But yeah, I do agree that Tank Davis is a paper champion, even his 140 lbs belt he won against Barrios was a cherry pick fight for him because he knows he can beat Barrios easily and then didn't defend it and go back to 135 lbs. So wouldn't like an upset here? Frank Martin has the talent, he just need to avoid that power punches from Tank Davis and then be the aggressor and score more points and hope that the judges will give him the nod after 12 rounds.
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May 23, 2024, 04:19:29 AM |
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There were plenty of upsets happening lately, Denys Berinchyk won the WBO belt at 135 against 3 division world champion Emanuel Navarette. Joe Cordina lost his belt, Giovanni Santillan also losing his interim belt and avoided heavyweight technician Frank Sanchez was stopped. So I am also hoping Frank Martin to pull an upset here and steal that WBA email belt. I find Tank an explosive and exciting fighter but he is cherry picking for many years and is a coward to fight against the other champions for many years so Frank Martin winning is better for the sport. We want to see another undisputed champ in this division soon.
LOL, I almost blew my coffee when this comment, ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . But yeah, I do agree that Tank Davis is a paper champion, even his 140 lbs belt he won against Barrios was a cherry pick fight for him because he knows he can beat Barrios easily and then didn't defend it and go back to 135 lbs. So wouldn't like an upset here? Frank Martin has the talent, he just need to avoid that power punches from Tank Davis and then be the aggressor and score more points and hope that the judges will give him the nod after 12 rounds. It's just crazy how blinded are the fans of Tank Davis. The belt he won over Barrios was only the regular version though so it does not count since the real WBA belt was held by either Pacman or Ugas at that time. But this current email belt is a real one, emailed to him by the corrupt WBA after Haney vacated all the belts. Hopefully, Martin can pull an upset. I heard rumors that Davis was putting a rehydration clause on the contract. I hope it is not true. Although, I agree that all these sanctioning bodies should have a rehydration limit at fight night to make fights more fair and less hazardous to the fighters welfare.
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Hopefully, Martin can pull an upset. I heard rumors that Davis was putting a rehydration clause on the contract. I hope it is not true. Although, I agree that all these sanctioning bodies should have a rehydration limit at fight night to make fights more fair and less hazardous to the fighters welfare.
I think that rehydration clause is stipulated in their contract, if I'm correct it is a 12-pound rehydration clause that I have read somewhere but just forgot the link. Frank Martin is a decent boxer but I don't think he can pull an upset here mate as Tank Davis is a clever one though i want him also to lose but to Ryan Garcia if ever they have a rematch.
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May 24, 2024, 04:45:29 AM |
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It's just crazy how blinded are the fans of Tank Davis. The belt he won over Barrios was only the regular version though so it does not count since the real WBA belt was held by either Pacman or Ugas at that time. But this current email belt is a real one, emailed to him by the corrupt WBA after Haney vacated all the belts.
The interim and regular belt nonsense is getting out of hand. PBC is by far the worst offender out of all the promoters. This card with Tank will have two interim fights, WBC interim light heavyweight and WBC interim super lightweight, and the other two fights on PPV will involve Carlos Adames, who is also an email champion that was elevated from interim to full champion by the WBC, and there is Tank himself, who didn’t become world champion inside the ring but was elevated once Haney moved up. These belts don’t mean anything anymore if they are being handed out so gratuitously. To make matters worse, many of these PBC paper champions end up holding the belts hostage for a long time by being inactive.
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May 24, 2024, 10:38:38 AM |
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It's just crazy how blinded are the fans of Tank Davis. The belt he won over Barrios was only the regular version though so it does not count since the real WBA belt was held by either Pacman or Ugas at that time. But this current email belt is a real one, emailed to him by the corrupt WBA after Haney vacated all the belts.
The interim and regular belt nonsense is getting out of hand. PBC is by far the worst offender out of all the promoters. This card with Tank will have two interim fights, WBC interim light heavyweight and WBC interim super lightweight, and the other two fights on PPV will involve Carlos Adames, who is also an email champion that was elevated from interim to full champion by the WBC, and there is Tank himself, who didn’t become world champion inside the ring but was elevated once Haney moved up. These belts don’t mean anything anymore if they are being handed out so gratuitously. To make matters worse, many of these PBC paper champions end up holding the belts hostage for a long time by being inactive. Well this is just another proof how corrupt boxing is, with so many belts and governing bodies not enforcing their own rule and just let powerful promoters like PBC to run their course to have interim belts within them and not facing the regular champion. So I do agree that those belts mean nothing, and as we can see in a given organization, there could be 2 or even 3 champion at the same time, the regular, the interim, and then champion in recess.
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May 29, 2024, 11:36:28 PM |
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Not sure if you have seen this interview, Frank Martin was asked if he is pissed off because Ryan Garcia, his stable mate, is picking up Tank Davis to defeat him. https://x.com/vinquezada1/status/1795907920443699599And Frank responded with, “He don’t know what he wants to do. I feel like all of the sh*t he be pulling is all fake. Like, you go from being at the press(conference) after his fight saying ‘Frank going to beat him’ then it goes to ‘I bet 1 million tank going to knock him out’.. you know so I feel like it’s fake” Yeah, Ryan Garcia could be faking everything, as we have seen in his promotion with Devin Haney. Or perhaps he is helping Frank Martin to get media attention with this kind of controversial statement so that the fight will get more attention and revenue.
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May 30, 2024, 04:41:32 AM |
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Not sure if you have seen this interview, Frank Martin was asked if he is pissed off because Ryan Garcia, his stable mate, is picking up Tank Davis to defeat him.
Ryan has only been with Derrick James for 2 fights, and in that period Frank Martin has not been very active. They probably have not had many interactions with each other. It is obvious that Tank is a heavy favorite. Since they have not developed a close friendship, there is no obligation for Ryan to spare Frank’s feelings and say something which he doesn’t believe will happen. The last time Ryan bet on an underdog against Tank, he lost $20k in a bet he made with Errol Spence.
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May 31, 2024, 10:25:55 AM |
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Not sure if you have seen this interview, Frank Martin was asked if he is pissed off because Ryan Garcia, his stable mate, is picking up Tank Davis to defeat him.
Ryan has only been with Derrick James for 2 fights, and in that period Frank Martin has not been very active. They probably have not had many interactions with each other. It is obvious that Tank is a heavy favorite. Since they have not developed a close friendship, there is no obligation for Ryan to spare Frank’s feelings and say something which he doesn’t believe will happen. The last time Ryan bet on an underdog against Tank, he lost $20k in a bet he made with Errol Spence. I think they know each other, there are videos of them shadow boxing together, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evyX-2Uz9LIAs both are preparing for their respective fight. So not sure why suddenly Ryan said, if he truly says it, that he is on Davis here vs here stable mate Frank Martin. Of course, maybe Martin knows something like he said, it could be just a ploy in the part of Ryan here.
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June 06, 2024, 07:17:43 AM |
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Less that two weeks from this fight and I see a twitter post when Errol Spence and Frank Martin are talking about Frank beating Gervonta Davis. And then Shakur Stevenson will have to wait because there is a rematch clause between Martin and Davis.
Davis on the other hand saying that Martin doesn't like body shots, so for sure we will be looking for that kind of punch. Perhaps it will be the same strategy against Ryan, when he target his body and then go upstairs. Also lots of sparring sessions of Tank as well released in the social media that he buckled down the legs of his sparring partner.
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June 06, 2024, 08:59:31 AM |
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Not sure if you have seen this interview, Frank Martin was asked if he is pissed off because Ryan Garcia, his stable mate, is picking up Tank Davis to defeat him.
Ryan has only been with Derrick James for 2 fights, and in that period Frank Martin has not been very active. They probably have not had many interactions with each other. It is obvious that Tank is a heavy favorite. Since they have not developed a close friendship, there is no obligation for Ryan to spare Frank’s feelings and say something which he doesn’t believe will happen. The last time Ryan bet on an underdog against Tank, he lost $20k in a bet he made with Errol Spence. And it looks like the friendship is more towards Frank Martin and Errol Spence, and even though that Spence has move out of the camp and obviously is no longer with Derick James, it seems that their friendship has built already to the point that he thinks that Martin will win here, https://x.com/Hassanweliyo/status/1798446831636217970It's going to be very difficult though for Frank, he might have all the tools, but I think Tank is too good to get upset in this fight by Martin. Boxing IQ as well of Tank is very high as he can read what Frank will throw in this fight.
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June 06, 2024, 01:26:43 PM |
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Less that two weeks from this fight and I see a twitter post when Errol Spence and Frank Martin are talking about Frank beating Gervonta Davis. And then Shakur Stevenson will have to wait because there is a rematch clause between Martin and Davis. Usually a rematch happens when a champion loses his belt or the fight is too close that it could go either way, if Martin loses the match by stoppage I don't think there will be a rematch it's not appealing to the boxing fans if Gervonta loses by a stoppage he had the privilege to try to regain his title, all championships match usually has this rematch clause Davis on the other hand saying that Martin doesn't like body shots, so for sure we will be looking for that kind of punch. Perhaps it will be the same strategy against Ryan, when he target his body and then go upstairs. Also lots of sparring sessions of Tank as well released in the social media that he buckled down the legs of his sparring partner. Public sparring doesn't indicate anything they are not hard sparring because if people see that one favorite fighter dominated by his sparring partner it will not attract the betting platforms, hard sparing is kept in public they only show it after the fight not before the fight, as it can distract or influenced the betting and opinions of the boxing fans.
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