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April 07, 2024, 05:24:25 AM
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Many people doing crypto or stock trading also lose huge amount of money sometimes, but we never hear such complaints about this activity. Risks are the same though. And you can become addict exactly in the same away. It's such a little bit risky for your funds when you win because unlike casinos you're not winning the money belonging to the platform("the house") but the one belonging to other users.
Advices are given out daily and most gamblers are ignorant. We face risks and most of us have become acquainted with the current unstable phase of gambling system, but most of us end up losing huge figures and keep it to ourselves, everyone is different. We have the required money and knowledge, it'd meant to share them inother to provide aides for those that desperately need them in the space. Everyone have the challenges they're facing and I must say, it's been really been really a rough path to follow this season.



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April 07, 2024, 06:34:04 AM
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Many people doing crypto or stock trading also lose huge amount of money sometimes, but we never hear such complaints about this activity. Risks are the same though. And you can become addict exactly in the same away. It's such a little bit risky for your funds when you win because unlike casinos you're not winning the money belonging to the platform("the house") but the one belonging to other users.
Advices are given out daily and most gamblers are ignorant. We face risks and most of us have become acquainted with the current unstable phase of gambling system, but most of us end up losing huge figures and keep it to ourselves, everyone is different. We have the required money and knowledge, it'd meant to share them inother to provide aides for those that desperately need them in the space. Everyone have the challenges they're facing and I must say, it's been really been really a rough path to follow this season.
You're absolutely correct mate. I believe that lack of proper education and support for people who are struggling with gambling addiction has been often overlooked. There's often a stigma around admitting that one has a gambling addiction and this makes it difficult for people to open up that they really need help, so rather than asking for help, they decide to just die inside and not talk to people about it for fear of being criticized. There should really be more open conversations about responsible gambling and also provision or more resources to help people who are actually struggling with addiction. There some addiction that requires just more than advise to get rid of, we should try harder to discover how to help addicts even when they refuse to speak up because most people are actually scared or ashamed to speak of for fear of being judged.

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April 07, 2024, 10:08:21 AM
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How does a $10 gambler goes up to $60,000 in loss? He must have fallen under the category that increasing the amount will bring him luck faster, till date many gamblers think this way, and thats why they all have no good stories to share about gambling.

If to you, everything about gambling is, money money money, you will eventually start doing the stupid things, Being disciplined will be so far away from you, and you will not fall under a particular category.

The man OP is talking about is still regretting his losses, thats a lot of money he lost trying to become a millionaire with gambling, with $60,000 in crypto I would have turned that into numbers very close to 1 million dollars.

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April 07, 2024, 11:35:29 AM
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Sharing personal experiences, especially negative ones, can be a form of cautionary advice rather than a directive for others to quit gambling outright. It’s about context. If someone has faced significant losses, their story might serve as a reminder of gambling’s risks, encouraging others to gamble responsibly rather than not at all.

Advising others to quit based solely on a personal bad experience might not be entirely fair, but sharing that experience as a lesson in what can potentially go wrong is valid. It’s all about fostering a dialogue that encourages responsible gambling practices and acknowledges the risks involved without casting judgment on the activity itself.

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April 07, 2024, 12:00:23 PM
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Hi guys and ladies,

Sorry I can't share the Facebook post this thread stems from, as I lost the post, hours ago before deciding to bring it up as a discussion on this forum.

Like 6 to 7 hours ago, I was over there on Facebook scrolling my life-time away  Grin, I came to this post where the user was advising readers on how bad gambling is, being a gambler myself, I decided to open the post in fall to read and know what the dude is all about, and from all the story, it seems the dude went all in on a gambling sprey which didn't turn out the way he had anticipated, according to him, he had lost all his life savings (over $60,000) to gambling and it all started with a bet of $10.

And right now, the dude is all out to castigate and discourage as many that are willing to give him a listening ear; from gambling, all for what? Because gambling didn't turn out well for him, he lost his entire life savings, and he now believed that that is exactly how every other persons out there gambling will lose too.

What do you make of this, I honestly do not know but deep inside of me, I feel it's absolutely wrong to advice people against doing something, just because you did the same thing and it did not favor you..

Do you guys think it's OK to advice other gamblers to quit gambling simply because of your own bad experience, does your bad experience mean that every other gambler out there will also have the same bad experience?
I will like some really useful discussions around this topic.

Maybe its good to share his story since for sure he can pick up some good readers to learn from his experiences. But for giving an advice about not to follow his foot steps for sure there are other people will not learn for what he experience since those people will just ignore then said that that incident will not happen to them since for them they are in control and didn't take to much. So maybe he just waste his time if he give such advice to people who doesn't want to listen on other peoples advice. So maybe he just let his story posted and let people read and discuss about that since for sure there are several guys that can be touched by stories then try to do some counter action not to experience what they see  posted by random individual.

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April 07, 2024, 12:55:23 PM
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Hi guys and ladies,

Sorry I can't share the Facebook post this thread stems from, as I lost the post, hours ago before deciding to bring it up as a discussion on this forum.

Like 6 to 7 hours ago, I was over there on Facebook scrolling my life-time away  Grin, I came to this post where the user was advising readers on how bad gambling is, being a gambler myself, I decided to open the post in fall to read and know what the dude is all about, and from all the story, it seems the dude went all in on a gambling sprey which didn't turn out the way he had anticipated, according to him, he had lost all his life savings (over $60,000) to gambling and it all started with a bet of $10.

And right now, the dude is all out to castigate and discourage as many that are willing to give him a listening ear; from gambling, all for what? Because gambling didn't turn out well for him, he lost his entire life savings, and he now believed that that is exactly how every other persons out there gambling will lose too.

What do you make of this, I honestly do not know but deep inside of me, I feel it's absolutely wrong to advice people against doing something, just because you did the same thing and it did not favor you..

Do you guys think it's OK to advice other gamblers to quit gambling simply because of your own bad experience, does your bad experience mean that every other gambler out there will also have the same bad experience?
I will like some really useful discussions around this topic.
Its okay to share your experience, or bad experience about gambling in other gamblers but don't expect that they will follow it or they will believe in it because believe me no matter how persuade you will od if the gambler is too addicted in gambling they will not stop for them its okay as long as it is not happening to them, that's why there's a saying about "the regret is in the end" meaning a person will know what is the consequences of his action after shit happens or if he stumble and experience the great lose in gambling.
You can do your part on advicing them or reminding them but never expect that they will listen or even believe in you, your experience is not always applicable to others and I prefer them to learn the lesson themselves in order to learn the truth and will never comeback in gambling ever again.

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April 07, 2024, 02:20:13 PM
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Many people doing crypto or stock trading also lose huge amount of money sometimes, but we never hear such complaints about this activity. Risks are the same though. And you can become addict exactly in the same away. It's such a little bit risky for your funds when you win because unlike casinos you're not winning the money belonging to the platform("the house") but the one belonging to other users.
Advices are given out daily and most gamblers are ignorant. We face risks and most of us have become acquainted with the current unstable phase of gambling system, but most of us end up losing huge figures and keep it to ourselves, everyone is different. We have the required money and knowledge, it'd meant to share them inother to provide aides for those that desperately need them in the space. Everyone have the challenges they're facing and I must say, it's been really been really a rough path to follow this season.
You're absolutely correct mate. I believe that lack of proper education and support for people who are struggling with gambling addiction has been often overlooked. There's often a stigma around admitting that one has a gambling addiction and this makes it difficult for people to open up that they really need help, so rather than asking for help, they decide to just die inside and not talk to people about it for fear of being criticized. There should really be more open conversations about responsible gambling and also provision or more resources to help people who are actually struggling with addiction. There some addiction that requires just more than advise to get rid of, we should try harder to discover how to help addicts even when they refuse to speak up because most people are actually scared or ashamed to speak of for fear of being judged.
People dont like talking about gambling addiction. The best way to help folks struggling is to start with understanding. We need better education on this issue, the kind that truly explains the struggle. Not just pamphlets, but real, accessible information. And forget the shame game - that's not going to help anyone. We need folks to know they're not alone, that support is out there.

The system needs a shakeup. We're talking resources, the best of the best, not some half-baked solution. We gotta understand how addiction works, get to the psychology of it. This isnt about weakness, its about needing a helping hand. And that hand needs to be strong, consistent. Its time to invest in this, the real smart way. We can make a difference, we can help folks get their lives back on track. This isnt something we can ignore, we need bold solutions, solutions that will change lives.

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April 07, 2024, 02:58:05 PM
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Hi guys and ladies,

Sorry I can't share the Facebook post this thread stems from, as I lost the post, hours ago before deciding to bring it up as a discussion on this forum.

Like 6 to 7 hours ago, I was over there on Facebook scrolling my life-time away  Grin, I came to this post where the user was advising readers on how bad gambling is, being a gambler myself, I decided to open the post in fall to read and know what the dude is all about, and from all the story, it seems the dude went all in on a gambling sprey which didn't turn out the way he had anticipated, according to him, he had lost all his life savings (over $60,000) to gambling and it all started with a bet of $10.

And right now, the dude is all out to castigate and discourage as many that are willing to give him a listening ear; from gambling, all for what? Because gambling didn't turn out well for him, he lost his entire life savings, and he now believed that that is exactly how every other persons out there gambling will lose too.

What do you make of this, I honestly do not know but deep inside of me, I feel it's absolutely wrong to advice people against doing something, just because you did the same thing and it did not favor you..

Do you guys think it's OK to advice other gamblers to quit gambling simply because of your own bad experience, does your bad experience mean that every other gambler out there will also have the same bad experience?
I will like some really useful discussions around this topic.
Its okay to share your experience, or bad experience about gambling in other gamblers but don't expect that they will follow it or they will believe in it because believe me no matter how persuade you will od if the gambler is too addicted in gambling they will not stop for them its okay as long as it is not happening to them, that's why there's a saying about "the regret is in the end" meaning a person will know what is the consequences of his action after shit happens or if he stumble and experience the great lose in gambling.
You can do your part on advicing them or reminding them but never expect that they will listen or even believe in you, your experience is not always applicable to others and I prefer them to learn the lesson themselves in order to learn the truth and will never comeback in gambling ever again.

Many gamblers will never take advises from a fellow gambler, they would rather prefer to learn from their own experiences. But, whether people pay attention to the stories of a failed gambler or not, it should not stop the gambler from letting people know the mistakes he made. Out of ten persons, there might be at least one person who would be conscious of his gambling activities as a result of the story he heard. They say "experience is the best teacher ", those who would not take advise would be taught by the best teacher (experience) because no one is going to force anyone to gamble responsibly. Gambling is only enjoyable when played rightly.

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April 07, 2024, 03:04:34 PM
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It is okay to advice others based on your experience as a caution of how dangerous gambling is. In the first place, that's just an advice or suggestion and not merely a requirement or total restriction; it'll still depend to that individual or listener of him whether he would follow it or not. It would be better to hear such disclaimer than to be surprised of things and to suffer the same fate. Gambling is really risky that no one holds the assurance or guarantee of winning regardless of how much you want it to happen; things will always depend on your luck and your task is to extend that luck as much as possible by means of controlling wager and betting amounts, taking a pause sometimes and knowing when to bet or skip. Greed will always be at the corner waiting for you to get it and that's something you should be cautious of.

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April 07, 2024, 03:27:23 PM
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With capital of $10 you should be able to get $60k.
How??
Furthermore, for the capital used in gambling, at 10% of your monthly income, it is very small, when gambling, the profits will appear to be less, maybe you should try to increase your capital by up to 20% every month in the hope that you will succeed in winning at gambling.
I don’t think 10% of a month’s salary is small. Gambling is not an investment and won’t make you rich so why would you want to spend 20% of your salary in casinos. According to this poll, there are gamblers who only gamble with 5% of their weekly income.

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April 07, 2024, 03:49:19 PM
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Do you guys think it's OK to advice other gamblers to quit gambling simply because of your own bad experience, does your bad experience mean that every other gambler out there will also have the same bad experience?
I will like some really useful discussions around this topic.
If he is betting like I did and I know the guy why not, but if he's someone who has full control of what he bets it is wrong to advise him to quit gambling and I don't think he will heed the advice, people take advice from someone they respected not from random people who knows nothing about you.

When we lose a lot of money and suffer a lot our thinking is we should help others so they will not suffer what we've gone through, but you will invite hate and fight if you advise all you've encountered, they will just tell you that we are not like you who is very addicted to gambling and will blame you.
 

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April 07, 2024, 03:51:15 PM
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Like 6 to 7 hours ago, I was over there on Facebook scrolling my life-time away  Grin, I came to this post where the user was advising readers on how bad gambling is, being a gambler myself, I decided to open the post in fall to read and know what the dude is all about, and from all the story, it seems the dude went all in on a gambling sprey which didn't turn out the way he had anticipated, according to him, he had lost all his life savings (over $60,000) to gambling and it all started with a bet of $10.

And right now, the dude is all out to castigate and discourage as many that are willing to give him a listening ear; from gambling, all for what? Because gambling didn't turn out well for him, he lost his entire life savings, and he now believed that that is exactly how every other persons out there gambling will lose too.

Such texts exists a lot in particular forums about gambling. Losing a significant amount of money through gambling and then discouraging others from engaging in it is quite common. It's understandable that the person would want to share their story as a cautionary tale, hoping to prevent others from making the same mistakes they did. Their intention to spare others from the pain and loss they experienced is commendable. It's important for people to be aware of the potential risks associated with gambling, especially when substantial amounts of money are involved.
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April 07, 2024, 04:22:07 PM
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I also often remind other people, especially on this forum, but I don't force them to listen to what I say and my experience. In essence, every decision comes back to each person, after all, if someone is addicted to gambling, it's difficult to advise, so there's no need to worry. also about that, it is true that not everyone experiences the same unlucky day but if you gamble against the bookie you will definitely get the same result in the end if you can't control yourself you will lose a lot of money.

Everyone is free to advise anyone or ask them to stop gambling if they are no longer under control or are addicted to gambling. It's not that easy for people to listen to other people's advice so it won't matter if the person you are referring to gives advice or pressures people to stop gambling because gambling makes people poor, after all that is a clear fact too, we cannot forbid him from advising anyone as long as he thinks it is right, just focus on ourselves, after all, every gambler who has discovered the joy of gambling will not listen to anyone's advice, not everyone Gambling also wants to make money, you can just look for fun and it is controlled, so it is impossible for the user you are referring to to influence other people.

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April 07, 2024, 04:26:12 PM
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I believe it is not about whether advice or not people on what they are supposed to do with their life, their money and their time. I would rather for an approach where (instead creating a perception which could be biased) one states facts.
Let us allow people to partake in activities they like and which are legal while also making them fully aware of the risks and the possible consequences such activity could have in the future.
There is a good reason for those warnings we all see on cigarette packages and also on the bottles of alcohol. Those intent to spread awareness on the consequences of abuse of those substances and activities, but because we are supposed to be in a free society, each one of us is supposed to have control over our personal destiny.

So, I am neither a smoker neither a heavy drinker, but in the case of someone coming to me for some advice about those things I would encourage them to do some research about the correlation between smoking and health problems and the correlation between alcohol abuse and health.

To each their own. I guess.

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April 07, 2024, 04:42:10 PM
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There is nothing wrong with sharing their bad experience on something and guiding how to approach it consideratively even advising them to quit because they had wrong turning point in their life due to this is okay but who is going to be convinced from the advises?

We tend to ignore such things until we experience them on our own. Wink

I never encouraged anyone to gamble as well as not forced to quit them, we are adults we should know the consequences of any actions that we practice.

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April 07, 2024, 04:57:51 PM
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For a person who gambled with his life's savings, it is an irresponsible act and it is very necessary to point out your errors so people will learn. Instead of advising people to quit gambling, it is better you tell them what you did wrong that landed you in such a pitiable state. You cannot gamble rightly and face any gambling related problem. Your experience should deter many others from gambling irresponsibly. I repeat, gambling is not the problem, but the gamblers are.

Perhaps he feels he need to pass his message urgently and thinks that’s the best way to avoid making the same mistake he did and losing out on money. In his view, quitting gambling is much safer so as to not be able to remotely come close to making bad choices that would bring about bad consequences.
You cannot gamble responsible and face any financial difficulties that could arise from gambling. And what the person should be likely be preaching about to people is responsibility while gambling. He was irresponsible and paid for it.
Gambling as an activity really isn’t the problem; it’s people who are being irresponsible while indulging in said activity.
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April 07, 2024, 06:07:06 PM
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Well, obviously things with that player who lost all that money are bad, he is angry and maybe he thinks that everyone who plays in a casino is going to suffer the same as him, so that's why he gets bad publicity, but you should not see him as a hater or something that can influence a lot, you have to see him as something normal, as there are casino lovers, there are others who hate it, it is important that one cannot risk all his capital in the game, but in part the mistake was this player's because if he had controlled himself he would not have lost all his money, in part he was carried away by the game, emotions, excessive gambling, and these things are what make things go wrong, so it is good that he has told his experience, because eventually that can happen in a casino, but those who want to intimidate that intimidate them, that's to be careful, here applies what they say in my land, a famous saying: "If you see your neighbour's beard burning, put yours to soak".

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April 07, 2024, 07:19:58 PM
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Hi guys and ladies,

Sorry I can't share the Facebook post this thread stems from, as I lost the post, hours ago before deciding to bring it up as a discussion on this forum.

Like 6 to 7 hours ago, I was over there on Facebook scrolling my life-time away  Grin, I came to this post where the user was advising readers on how bad gambling is, being a gambler myself, I decided to open the post in fall to read and know what the dude is all about, and from all the story, it seems the dude went all in on a gambling sprey which didn't turn out the way he had anticipated, according to him, he had lost all his life savings (over $60,000) to gambling and it all started with a bet of $10.

And right now, the dude is all out to castigate and discourage as many that are willing to give him a listening ear; from gambling, all for what? Because gambling didn't turn out well for him, he lost his entire life savings, and he now believed that that is exactly how every other persons out there gambling will lose too.

What do you make of this, I honestly do not know but deep inside of me, I feel it's absolutely wrong to advice people against doing something, just because you did the same thing and it did not favor you..

Do you guys think it's OK to advice other gamblers to quit gambling simply because of your own bad experience, does your bad experience mean that every other gambler out there will also have the same bad experience?
I will like some really useful discussions around this topic.

He isn't castigating, for me he has done nothing wrong he is simply sharing his experience, same time safeguarding others to know the risk involved In gambling. And also making them know that's such possibility is possible.

There is no such word like Advice in gambling, or financial market. His experience can't be same as yours or anyone but the truth stands that there is possibility of losing and if not curtail can lead to a situation as his. And I haven't seen anyone that can share there positive experience without any bad experience.

OP, I haven't also seen anyone through gambling add value to there life,gambling if not limited can lead to such experience and the earlier we have many more person who shard this same story will help.
But the truth is everyone is entitled to there decision and those that will listen will listen, not everyone will pay attention and not every gambler will quit too.

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April 07, 2024, 07:40:15 PM
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Yes, that's fine. If the experience he's got was terrible then he is in all of his might to discourage people from gambling. From 10 bet to losing his life savings? Clearly, the problem is on him and he's just sharing his story to the other people that might end up being addicted as well and that's a good share that he can give to everybody. He even has got the guts to share it because not every failed gambler will tell their unique stories.
And this helps other gamblers when they're on the verge of being addicted as it will show how someone ended up if they are not going to stop. Nothing wrong with gambling as you do it with moderation. But the problem with many of us is that we forget to moderate and have some time to stop when it is necessary and even when we've been winning already, we're not stopping yet but we wait until we lose everything and that's the time we're realizing that there's a need for us to stop.

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Wouldn't say that it's really about "gambling" itself, he might've mistaken it for his dumb decision-making. Not really rare though, usually addicts would blame the substance instead of their actions anyway. Now the idea of it being Ok or not is really dependent on how much you want to correct misunderstandings.

I'd say it's completely fine since people who can think about it can easily realize it wasn't gambling that caused the issue, it was his impulsiveness that did. The act of sharing his experience is actually fine and all, really great even, just that the way he did it was made to make people misunderstand. I mean let's be real, if someone was able to spend his life savings on gambling, there'd be 100% people who would spend their life savings say, on NFT's, figurines, painting, literally anything really.

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