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April 06, 2024, 07:51:23 PM
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I made same post in Altcointalk.
Can't really start writing another different speech so will do well to copy it here.

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I never knew this was possible so usually just copy the address and send without confirming much. Well turns out that was a big mistake on my part. Never knew that clipboard can do such. I don't know if it's a malware, I ended up using an address that wasn't mine and funny holds some units of Bitcoin.

Still confused how something like this could happen,  but try to be cautious and don't feel too lazy to cross check your address before sending or posting. Recall Bitcoin transactions are irreversible after 6 confirmations, once confirmed it's gone. You can tell the wallet address it went to but not the owner. Except they are careless,  which I doubt they are
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I would suggest using a phone or system you don't usually use to browse the web to hold your coins or better still an Hardware wallet.

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April 06, 2024, 07:55:24 PM
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It is better to check and recheck the address that you are sending to someone before sending the address. It is better you check and recheck the address that you are sending coins to before sending the coin.

Bitcoin transactions are irreversible after 6 confirmations, once confirmed it's gone.
After 1 confirmation, it is gone. If the transaction does not support replace-by-fee, the coin has likely gone even when it is not yet confirmed. Even if the transaction support replaced-by-fee, it is possible that it might have been too late.

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April 06, 2024, 07:55:43 PM
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It is either it is a clipboard malware which I would advise you to read this thread on how not to lose your bitcoin through copy and paste or you mistakenly copy the wrong address either through a dust attack on that address.

I would suggest using a phone or system you don't usually use to browse the web to hold your coins or better still an Hardware wallet.

The suggestion should be you should rather store your coins on a device that you have never used to browse the internet before or an hardware wallet. And it doesn’t just end there make sure to cross check your transaction details before broadcasting your transaction, you never can be too sure even on an assumed clean device

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April 06, 2024, 08:02:53 PM
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The suggestion should be you should rather store your coins on a device that you have never used to browse the internet before or an hardware wallet. And it doesn’t just end there make sure to cross check your transaction details before broadcasting your transaction, you never can be too sure even on an assumed clean device
Exactly. Even dust attack and address poisoning is possible on clean devices. But the one that has been reported led to coin loss is address poisoning as the attacker make use of address similar to the victim's address.

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April 06, 2024, 08:03:30 PM
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It is called clipboard malware. It is used by scammers to infiltrate your keyboard, it intercepts your keyboard by replacing what you copy on your keyboard and paste something different. They use it to make fraudulent cryptocurrency transactions and can also replace important informations you copy such as credit cards details, passwords etc. You can avoid them by not visiting any unsolicited links you come across and keeping your antivirus software updated to stop such softwares from been installed accidentally in your system.

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April 06, 2024, 08:13:04 PM
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I would suggest using a phone or system you don't usually use to browse the web to hold your coins or better still an Hardware wallet.
I think you are trying  to make reference to an Airgapped device, although you can create your Airgapped devices  using some PC with a secure OS , I wouldn't  advice phones because you definitely have used it for Internet and it's  hard to completely disable some features  on it so you will still get a partial Airgapped device( I just gave it  that name and I know it suck Tongue)even after format and reset.
Or you could just  get an Airgapped  device / Hardware  wallet just as you've  mentioned.


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April 06, 2024, 08:29:52 PM
Last edit: April 08, 2024, 11:34:25 AM by Aanuoluwatofunmi
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I made same post in Altcointalk.
Can't really start writing another different speech so will do well to copy it here.

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I never knew this was possible so usually just copy the address and send without confirming much. Well turns out that was a big mistake on my part. Never knew that clipboard can do such. I don't know if it's a malware, I ended up using an address that wasn't mine and funny holds some units of Bitcoin.

Still confused how something like this could happen,  but try to be cautious and don't feel too lazy to cross check your address before sending or posting. Recall Bitcoin transactions are irreversible after 6 confirmations, once confirmed it's gone. You can tell the wallet address it went to but not the owner. Except they are careless,  which I doubt they are
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I would suggest using a phone or system you don't usually use to browse the web to hold your coins or better still an Hardware wallet.

Maybe you may have to take a look on this threads:

Address Poisoning
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433343.msg61556293#msg61556293

https://support.metamask.io/hc/en-us/articles/11967455819035-Address-poisoning-scams

Also you may have to also see the way many can loose their crypto asset from copy and paste already discussed long time ago by LoyceV from the forum here, if we don't download a malicious apps or use their links, we are not going to be affected, many got into this because they don't even got aware they are into it in the first place until they experience the scam.


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April 06, 2024, 08:32:52 PM
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I would suggest using a phone or system you don't usually use to browse the web to hold your coins or better still an Hardware wallet.
A phone you don't usually use to browse the internet sounds like a device that is connected to the internet sometimes, but not all the time. Mind you that such a device is not airgapped and it it is not safe for your coins, an offline set up has to be completely offline. In your case you were attacked by a clipboard malware, you can avoid that if you use your online device very well and also double check the address you want to send Bitcoin to.

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April 06, 2024, 08:38:06 PM
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I would suggest using a phone or system you don't usually use to browse the web to hold your coins or better still an Hardware wallet.

Clipboard malware is amongst us for quite some years. People should read a little, really, else their money can go away very fast.
The easiest way to handle it is to simply double check the address you paste vs the address you've copied. Full check, not only the first and last few characters, since there are some smarter versions too that try to make look alike vanity addresses.

And about using an old phone, it's not the best idea. Just read this old thread: Old phone as cold storage?
The thing is that you cannot be 100% sure the phone is indeed airgapped.

I think you are trying  to make reference to an Airgapped device, although you can create your Airgapped devices  using some PC with a secure OS

If you are on a PC or laptop, even historically "not that safe/secure" OS like Windows will do, as long as the device will remain always airgapped.
The thing is that you better use an OS you're familiar with, so you don't make extra mistakes and also never (!) ever go online with the airgapped device, even for a second.

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It is better to check and recheck the address that you are sending to someone before sending the address. It is better you check and recheck the address that you are sending coins to before sending the coin.

Bitcoin transactions are irreversible after 6 confirmations, once confirmed it's gone.
After 1 confirmation, it is gone. If the transaction does not support replace-by-fee, the coin has likely gone even when it is not yet confirmed. Even if the transaction support replaced-by-fee, it is possible that it might have been too late.
This is the part of the crypto system that some people actually find not cool but for me it's actually worth it because atleast it will teach you as a coin owner to be very careful when sending your coins to a particular user. The one time mistake I have done was not actually checking the minimum deposit for a particular exchange that I wanted to send some coins from my non custodial wallet to and that mistake cost me 15$ because the minimum deposit was the exchange was exactly 20$.

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A phone you don't usually use to browse the internet sounds like a device that is connected to the internet sometimes, but not all the time. Mind you that such a device is not airgapped and it it is not safe for your coins, an offline set up has to be completely offline. In your case you were attacked by a clipboard malware, you can avoid that if you use your online device very well and also double check the address you want to send Bitcoin to.

Mine I have an extra phone only use for Bitcoin wallet no internet connection because the PA or the signal for wifi, bluetooth, and network is no longer working due to a broken network IC I can replace this but I'm thinking of making this as an airgap wallet it can only do is to sign a transaction through camera and QR code it works just like a hardware wallet and the good thing is you can review the transaction you made from outside or from any online device if it's your address or if it was a different address right away you can cancel the transaction.
Unlike phones with your wallet that is connected online when you make a transaction without checking the output, you might end up the same as other users fall victim to copy-paste malware.

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Bitcoin addresses have a checksum(altcoin addresses usually have one too), thanks to the Base58Check encoding: the first 4 bytes(32bits) of the double SHA256 hash of the RIPEMD-160 form.

 So if your wallet accepted this wrong address, it couldn't be due to a random error from you or your computer, it's due to a malware, a clipboard hijacker.

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(note that below steps are the Base58Check encoding, which has multiple library options available implementing it)
5 - Perform SHA-256 hash on the extended RIPEMD-160 result

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6 - Perform SHA-256 hash on the result of the previous SHA-256 hash

   c7f18fe8fcbed6396741e58ad259b5cb16b7fd7f041904147ba1dcffabf747fd
7 - Take the first 4 bytes of the second SHA-256 hash. This is the address checksum

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8 - Add the 4 checksum bytes from stage 7 at the end of extended RIPEMD-160 hash from stage 4. This is the 25-byte binary Bitcoin Address.

   00f54a5851e9372b87810a8e60cdd2e7cfd80b6e31c7f18fe8
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Technical_background_of_version_1_Bitcoin_addresses

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...I would suggest using a phone or system you don't usually use to browse the web to hold your coins or better still an Hardware wallet.

This is not the solution to your problem. You need to devote more time to the security of your equipment by using antivirus programs. But in any case, your care when sending a transaction will be indispensable if you carefully check the correctness of the address for sending coins.

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I made same post in Altcointalk.
Can't really start writing another different speech so will do well to copy it here.

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I never knew this was possible so usually just copy the address and send without confirming much. Well turns out that was a big mistake on my part. Never knew that clipboard can do such. I don't know if it's a malware, I ended up using an address that wasn't mine and funny holds some units of Bitcoin.

Still confused how something like this could happen,  but try to be cautious and don't feel too lazy to cross check your address before sending or posting. Recall Bitcoin transactions are irreversible after 6 confirmations, once confirmed it's gone. You can tell the wallet address it went to but not the owner. Except they are careless,  which I doubt they are
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I would suggest using a phone or system you don't usually use to browse the web to hold your coins or better still an Hardware wallet.
It is good for anyone transferring funds to always confirm because anything can happen. I have seen a case where small fund was send to a wallet that looks like the usual wallet at address, at the end the fund was lost which was  lesson for him to be always careful.
If you are suggesting one to use a wallet to hold fund always, what about in case when you feel like trading or buying other tokens, how do you intend to do that? No matter how we intend to support the use of wallet, it also has disadvantages just like the use of exchange for transactions.

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If the person who posted that make some research about ways that a scammer or hacker do to be able to scam or steal crypto from other people then that person should be able to know or came across a discussion about clipboard hijacking which is what we can read on OP. It's better if we always triple check everything when sending crypto to other person or yo your other wallet if it's the right wallet address and the right amount that you are going to send to avoid making mistakes and would also be able to tell if your device have malware like this one.

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Unlike back in the days when students like to copy perhaps assignment or term papers from their friends, only to copy along the name and i.d number of same friend and submit it without rechecking.
The punishment then was maybe a result of mark deduction.
In this case however, anyone not careful enough to properly confirm their sending and receiving address when copying from a storage location or from previous transaction information or from sent details, will have to either loss their funds or at best have it sent back if it is to someone with the kindest of hearts.

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Certainly a malware, it's been there since years and many have been victimized by it already. Those that don't check many times when they're about to send their transactions, they're the targets of this malware. Also, I've seen some situation wherein the copied address from your own wallet has some identical first and last characters of the hacker, I'm not sure how it goes but always check your entire bitcoin address from start, to mid and last characters of it. It will take you a minute but that minute will save you from trouble.

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I would suggest using a phone or system you don't usually use to browse the web to hold your coins or better still an Hardware wallet.
Recommend hardware wallet is good but a first part of your sentence is vague in meaning.

What did you imply with "I would suggest using a phone or system you don't usually use to browse the web to hold your coins"?

You can get dust attacks, address poisoning scam attacks with non custodial wallets like Electrum wallet too.

Dust Attack, what it is, why it is dangerous and how to prevent falling to it
A History of Bitcoin Transaction Dust & Spam Storms

Be careful when copy & paste a Bitcoin address for a transaction and always check it a couple of times.

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Ive seen some cases right here in the community, and people with this issue of the malware that gives a different paste content once they copy the clipboard, could be the script already designed once detected a pattern of the Bitcoin address could be a segwit or legacy address. If you can have an investment in the asset why not invest too with security, we are using daily the internet, devices to browse, to watch, etc. and of course make transactions there's nothing wrong invest too with security so you feel safe. But again sometimes hacker makes a way to inject into your system so you need to be more cautious with the things you are trying to download or access. People most likely overlook things, or else you will cut the transactions into partitions but it costs another fee.

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April 07, 2024, 04:21:50 AM
Merited by vapourminer (1)
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Yeah there is actually new kind of scam and CZ the ex-CEO of Binance warn about this Binance's CZ Warns Crypto Community About Emerging Scam https://www.binance.com/en/square/post/900401

I want to share this (luckily) unsuccessful, but very clever and close scam incident from yesterday . Saved $20m. Hope it may also save you one day.The scammers are so good now they generate addresses with the same starting and ending letters, which is what most people check… https://t.co/DFpdX8aNay

— CZ Binance (@cz_binance) August 2, 2023

they can generate the first and end letter that is insane so yeah we better to look out twice before make any transffer

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