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April 10, 2024, 08:19:06 PM
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As I visit our local board, I come discover something. Follow me watch this screenshot weda you go fit observe wetin I discover.

Make I for no stress you, if you check the image well, wey almost cover the first page. You go see say no title apart from the topic wey Majestic-mif raise wey be pidgin. All the title dey for normal English wey come make the board look like politics and society or off topic board for general forum. If wey put majority of these titles for ogbonge pigin, people wey enter here go really know say na local board be this.
My people na wetin I get to share be this o.

 
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April 10, 2024, 08:28:44 PM
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I see the topics more as Nigeria local discussions.

Having the title or the post in Pidgin is not necessary. If you like, post in English. If you like, post in Pidgin. We do not have to force anyone to post in Pidgin.

You can go through the topics and threads generally and see that it is still about discussions of Nigeria and what that supposed to be in Nigeria local board. It can be politics, economy or whatever but it is still about Nigeria discussion which is what that matters.

Please, we are having peace already, no need of bringing what is not.

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April 10, 2024, 08:34:57 PM
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Having the title or the post in Pidgin is not necessary. If you like, post in English. If you like, post in Pidgin. We do not have to force anyone to post in Pidgin.
For my post above, where I force person to post for pidgin. Abi I no dey entitled to my opinion again?

Please, we are having peace already, no need of bringing what is not.
E get the time wey war dey for here? I no too understand the way you carry respond to this post, hope say nothing sup.
Anyhow anyhow, I believe say people done understand wetin I post. People wey go first make their title to be pidgin go try from henceforth. Person wey no fit go continue for English, e simple.

 
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April 10, 2024, 08:40:33 PM
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Having the title or the post in Pidgin is not necessary. If you like, post in English. If you like, post in Pidgin. We do not have to force anyone to post in Pidgin.
For my post above, where I force person to post for pidgin. Abi I no dey entitled to my opinion again?

Please, we are having peace already, no need of bringing what is not.
E get the time wey war dey for here? I no too understand the way you carry respond to this post, hope say nothing sup.
Anyhow anyhow, I believe say people done understand wetin I post. People wey go first make their title to be pidgin go try from henceforth. Person wey no fit go continue for English, e simple.
No vex if my post looks like an attack. What I just felt is that we should leave people to make their own choices.

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April 10, 2024, 08:56:11 PM
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Having the title or the post in Pidgin is not necessary. If you like, post in English. If you like, post in Pidgin. We do not have to force anyone to post in Pidgin.
For my post above, where I force person to post for pidgin. Abi I no dey entitled to my opinion again?
I get what Charles-Tim means here, is just that our LB is not like other LB that make give strict restriction on the language accepted there, while here we can both use english and pidgin mainly some of us here have use igbo and other of our local language and also though its an Opinion, the topic title doesn`t show it that same way.

Please, we are having peace already, no need of bringing what is not.
E get the time wey war dey for here? I no too understand the way you carry respond to this post, hope say nothing sup.
Anyhow anyhow, I believe say people done understand wetin I post. People wey go first make their title to be pidgin go try from henceforth. Person wey no fit go continue for English, e simple.
[/quote] To be frank you know there are usually alot of drama on our LB which is has been dying slowly I guessed that what he meant here, also with your reply here you can actually see there is no need for this post since those who want to use pidgin will use it while if they don`t feel like they may use english.
bcos me self dey use both, na how post tel move na matter if I go use pidgin or English











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April 10, 2024, 09:30:15 PM
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As I visit our local board, I come discover something. Follow me watch this screenshot weda you go fit observe wetin I discover.
Make I for no stress you, if you check the image well, wey almost cover the first page. You go see say no title apart from the topic wey Majestic-mif raise wey be pidgin. All the title dey for normal English wey come make the board look like politics and society or off topic board for general forum. If wey put majority of these titles for ogbonge pigin, people wey enter here go really know say na local board be this.
My people na wetin I get to share be this o.
I understand wetin you dey talk.
In the beginning, I bin try to advocate for this but e be like say that one nor fir work so I gave up on the idea. I personally, want to see more topics for pidgin but if wishes na horses.

Another reason for this fit stil because o this Hatchy merit thread. Allow quote the question wey I been one ask am before him lock the topic.

Yea thanks for that. I guess I didn't think about that at first. Pidgin is a local language and any merit source that would review post from my local board must be a native speaker to be able to do review. I'll distribute the merits as requested.
Well done Hatchy. You are contributing positively to the growth of the Nigerian Local Board and I am impressed.

Please correct me if I am wrong but from what I understand from the text above, it implies that only topics written in English qualifies to receive merits not because it may not be a high quality post but because the reviewer will understand it better since he is a non-pidgin-English speaker. Right?

We sure need the Local board Merit source applications to be approved ASAP.

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April 10, 2024, 09:41:06 PM
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Well, I get watin @ uchegod-21dey try talk but as @ Charles-Tim talk am, e no really matter. Our local board get two language wey be pidgin and English so person fit create anything wey e like as long as e fit create watin people Dem go fit discuss put.

Another reason for this fit stil because o this Hatchy merit thread. Allow quote the question wey I been one ask am before him lock the topic.
No vex say I lock am bro. I no first get intension to dey lock the thread before but person wey dey our local board give me neutral tag just because I open am. D person request say make I lock am so I just rest. Cry

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Well done Hatchy. You are contributing positively to the growth of the Nigerian Local Board and I am impressed.

Please correct me if I am wrong but from what I understand from the text above, it implies that only topics written in English qualifies to receive merits not because it may not be a high quality post but because the reviewer will understand it better since he is a non-pidgin-English speaker. Right?

We sure need the Local board Merit source applications to be approved ASAP.
E wan resemble watin you talk but no be so Sha. As we know, merit sources Dem na obodo ibo people Dem. And these people Dem no dey speak or fit read pidgin like that. So even though say we ask for help, Dem fit no review the threads because Dem no fit read am well. Dat one no mean say na only English post them go dey merit or na e qualify. Sha From watin @1meau talk like this, e mean say we go really need to fight once again for merit source. Although we don dey fight for Long but no reply from admin them.

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I totally grasp what you meant with this post but for some they may not really understand it from your perspective but everyone is right at the same time.

From a clear understanding what you mean is that we should try to make our titles and posts with pidgin language in order to privatize our discussions than open them in English, making it as readable for everyone in the forum unlike other local boards where if you don't understand their lingual Franca you can't relate to what's going on there. So what you're saying indirectly is we should put more effort to use our LB language than the general language in the forum hence it will protect us from what we call "See finish" by the merit sources and other colleagues.

It's still a good idea, I like it but my problem is I'm not too good at writing in pidgin but from now i will try my best to pass some information through pidgin. Since both English and pidgin are acceptable in the local board we can still mix them when necessary but as long as information is being passed it's fine by some people that's what exactly most people are trying to say too.
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Having the title or the post in Pidgin is not necessary. If you like, post in English. If you like, post in Pidgin. We do not have to force anyone to post in Pidgin.
For my post above, where I force person to post for pidgin. Abi I no dey entitled to my opinion again?

Please, we are having peace already, no need of bringing what is not.
E get the time wey war dey for here? I no too understand the way you carry respond to this post, hope say nothing sup.
Anyhow anyhow, I believe say people done understand wetin I post. People wey go first make their title to be pidgin go try from henceforth. Person wey no fit go continue for English, e simple.
my people make una calm down first, ona blood too the hot. Grin

Although I understand where uchegod-21 dey drive at with the aim of him post and eim no bad at all onto say him want make the local board get the Naija pidgin outlook very right from the post titles as a visitor visit make him feel the odour from there before him enter inside the thread to see discussion. No be for English to just overshadow the whole board frontage. But the thing now on the other hand nah say the board the entertain both English and pidgin writings so nah which one the poster dey okey with nah him go use. Na so the matter just be.

The only thing we fit do here now na to just the persuade and encourage our people make the the rub body with the pidgin language for their post titles where necessary to retain that uniqueness with other boards, make every every no just the be pure English.

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April 10, 2024, 10:51:58 PM
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Having the title or the post in Pidgin is not necessary. If you like, post in English. If you like, post in Pidgin. We do not have to force anyone to post in Pidgin.
For my post above, where I force person to post for pidgin. Abi I no dey entitled to my opinion again?

Please, we are having peace already, no need of bringing what is not.
E get the time wey war dey for here? I no too understand the way you carry respond to this post, hope say nothing sup.
Anyhow anyhow, I believe say people done understand wetin I post. People wey go first make their title to be pidgin go try from henceforth. Person wey no fit go continue for English, e simple.
No vex if my post looks like an attack. What I just felt is that we should leave people to make their own choices.
The matter clear na just mis understanding, if not both of una mean the same thing,  because in as much as e be say we get the freedom to yan in clear English for this board, e still dey important make we dey try make the local board look more organic or representing the multi lingua board which is English/pigin,  any ways the thread call for more pigin discussions,  while charlse make emphasis on the accessibility of the current English topics trends as acceptable also.

E clear like that, I been don't the losgard my pigin skills since majority of my comments lately come be English,  but never mind na because most pf the comments na about bitcoin or cryptocurrency related topics.

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I see the topics more as Nigeria local discussions.

Having the title or the post in Pidgin is not necessary. If you like, post in English. If you like, post in Pidgin. We do not have to force anyone to post in Pidgin.

You can go through the topics and threads generally and see that it is still about discussions of Nigeria and what that supposed to be in Nigeria local board. It can be politics, economy or whatever but it is still about Nigeria discussion which is what that matters.

Please, we are having peace already, no need of bringing what is not.

OP should know that it is not everyone that are capable of writing in pigin. I as an example, I'm not perfect when it comes to writing in pigin. Since the board isn't against using normal English in writing. Therefore, one can express it's content in English. What matter most here the content and not the look of the thread.

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E wan resemble watin you talk but no be so Sha. As we know, merit sources Dem na obodo ibo people Dem. And these people Dem no dey speak or fit read pidgin like that. So even though say we ask for help, Dem fit no review the threads because Dem no fit read am well. Dat one no mean say na only English post them go dey merit or na e qualify. Sha From watin @1meau talk like this, e mean say we go really need to fight once again for merit source. Although we don dey fight for Long but no reply from admin them.

Thank you replying here and I grab
Wetin I dey think now be say pidgin English fit follow too. And the kind of pidgin posts wey fit follow na like all those translation posts as that one dey easier to understand because him to merit the person based on the effort wey the person put and just like to say thank you to the translator.

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 Baba you tok something wey really enter body. Twale for you. I know say rules bin dey stated wey permit the use of English for this our board but e come be like say many people come dey misuse this advantage. The time wen our big ogas been dey fight for this section I no sure say the aim na far am to be majorly English if not we for no call am naija local board. The essence of championing for this place nah be say we too go get were we fit freely nack the pidgin without fear of being misinterpreted or accused of speaking wrong English but at the same time just so that those wey pidgin and then no dey waka the same street no go feel left out go fit put their own, nai make I feel say the rule makers for this board add English.
 Nai make till today I respect how our big bros @Mpamegbu hold that him thread proverbs in pidgin down, him make am strictly on pidgin so that we fit still get a taste of that our naija vibe. Believe me, e no mean say we go be aje kpako if we nack pidgin, e just be our way of identifying ourselves.

 
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I see the topics more as Nigeria local discussions.
Very true. A lot of changes has happened over the time and I see that even the newbies have somehow improved on their post quality and style of topic presentation.
Also, the fact that this local board is just a bit Chunk size of the whole Bitcointalk forum platform and with enough discussions not being segregated, it makes it easier for newbies and even oldies to be more active and expressive with their own world views.

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Having the title or the post in Pidgin is not necessary. If you like, post in English. If you like, post in Pidgin. We do not have to force anyone to post in Pidgin.

You can go through the topics and threads generally and see that it is still about discussions of Nigeria and what that supposed to be in Nigeria local board. It can be politics, economy or whatever but it is still about Nigeria discussion which is what that matters.

Please, we are having peace already, no need of bringing what is not.

Hehehehe, abi o. Leave us to enjoy our peace o. Naija wahala don too much already to dey bother about Pidgin English or Native English or Queens English. The Koko be say we communicate in the language that we as Nigerians can understand.
However, if you check the local boards of other countries, you would notice you can hardly understand their conversations, unless it's in English and that's why I may be tempted to agree that with pidgin English, we can be more free to express ourselves, but not all of us here would still understand the pidgin English or be able to type or discuss with it here fluently and most importantly, merits hardly get earned for post or comments in pidgin English.

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Nothing really de sup for this matter. If what you are posting requires you to use the simple and correct English, it's not out of place to do so. If you're passing a sensitive information that requires you to code it somehow, that's when using pigin can become necessary. Normally most of us de like to blend both good English and pigin for our daily conversations and na why e be like say we de do same for our local board discussion.

What we have to understand is Nigeria is not like most other countries that have a general local language that's unique and popular such that all members can use it. The pigin when some persons for this place fit speak fluently, others fit no de comfortable with am and we no go fit force them to de use wetin dem no de used to. If you can comfortably make your post with pigin in a way that's easy to comprehend, you can do it without any hesitation but if you can't, it's best to do what works well for you and do it in line with the boards rules and regulations.

What should be talking about is how to improve on the quality of our local board post and also work on ensuring that our naija newbies don't go to the English board tarnishing our local board image. To me, that's one of the serious issues we should be concerned about.

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What should be talking about is how to improve on the quality of our local board post and also work on ensuring that our naija newbies don't go to the English board tarnishing our local board image. To me, that's one of the serious issues we should be concerned about.
I get wetin you dey try yarn but baba, nah when you get something you go try not to abuse am, the Koko be say we dey slowly turn here to English board and if go you go fit dey honest with yourself, you sef go see say nah true Op dey talk. E no go make sense say we go carry mata wey we suppose tackle for here as our board dey go oda boards dey yarn.
 This mata of posting majorly in English for we this we cabal just resemble wetin dey happen for naija; we leaders no wan beta the country but rather prefer to go other places and dey see those areas as superior to our own.
 Make I no cap careless but e get the way we go dey back the thing, doz our pipo from other boards go wan like to learn sef...make we no dey shame for this pidgin as e look to me say nah wetin we dey do..

 
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As I visit our local board, I come discover something. Follow me watch this screenshot weda you go fit observe wetin I discover.

Make I for no stress you, if you check the image well, wey almost cover the first page. You go see say no title apart from the topic wey Majestic-mif raise wey be pidgin. All the title dey for normal English wey come make the board look like politics and society or off topic board for general forum. If wey put majority of these titles for ogbonge pigin, people wey enter here go really know say na local board be this.
My people na wetin I get to share be this o.

Uche my senior oga no be lie you talk and from how things be for here e make here look like say outsiders fit come post for this place and e dy pain me say some of this our senior piple wey don tey for this place, wey follow struggle to make here be wetin e be today no fit speak out say make everybody respect this LOCAL BOARD to maintain the pride wey we get as Nigerians just as other local board them dy do.
Make una go somewhere likeTurkish local board weda you go fit understand wetin them dy talk without using Google but if them come here na so all these piple wey we get as brodas and sistas go dy use English as if them dy wen English enta our contri, to say the truth this one follow for why this place no dy as fun as e bin dy before and some members (like Mr Obari and the rest of them) no get that joy to dy come here as before too... Make all of una wey think say una sabi English do well oh... Make pride leave una oh.











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As I visit our local board, I come discover something. Follow me watch this screenshot weda you go fit observe wetin I discover.

Make I for no stress you, if you check the image well, wey almost cover the first page. You go see say no title apart from the topic wey Majestic-mif raise wey be pidgin. All the title dey for normal English wey come make the board look like politics and society or off topic board for general forum. If wey put majority of these titles for ogbonge pigin, people wey enter here go really know say na local board be this.
My people na wetin I get to share be this o.

Uche my senior oga no be lie you talk and from how things be for here e make here look like say outsiders fit come post for this place and e dy pain me say some of this our senior piple wey don tey for this place, wey follow struggle to make here be wetin e be today no fit speak out say make everybody respect this LOCAL BOARD to maintain the pride wey we get as Nigerians just as other local board them dy do.
Make una go somewhere likeTurkish local board weda you go fit understand wetin them dy talk without using Google but if them come here na so all these piple wey we get as brodas and sistas go dy use English as if them dy wen English enta our contri, to say the truth this one follow for why this place no dy as fun as e bin dy before and some members (like Mr Obari and the rest of them) no get that joy to dy come here as before too... Make all of una wey think say una sabi English do well oh... Make pride leave una oh.
The truth be say ,  one major reason why I leave the board na say, I no been want any problem with anybody because I been don Dey notice plenty shit wey people Dey do without  feeling any guilt.
Plenty of us go don notice say a lot of issue Dey fly around about us and one major reason na because most of us no even sabi write for pigin english and I no Dey blame anybody because this pigin no really easy to write.

Another issue wey need attention, na the matter wey concern love and respect wey we really Dey lack for the board and a lot of users Dey forget say we still get lives to live outside of the forum and as such suppose Dey respect ourselves but the forum don make am seem like say everybody na the same and equal wey truly no be so.
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The truth of this pidgin and English language in use here in the forum is basically considered based of easy communications of individuals.
This one no be claiming, almost all of us in this country Nigeria comfortably communicates with the pidgin language which is our general language since there are excessive diversities with different languages spoken in the country.

The unique side of it here is that most of us who comfortably flows with the pidgin finds it hard to construct readable and understandable texts which others can relate and communicate along with.

There are numerous pidgin language threads in the forum which I have not come across anyone complaining about why pidgin is being used on the context but I have seen where most persons films their pidgin texts in a way that it is complicating to understand what the message the writer is trying to pass to the forum. Definitely this could be cause that such forum users is trying to force in just to flow with the pidgin language.
Lot of forum users complicating their contexts has been guided to use English language of they finds the pidgin language uneasy during communication and that has also brought some easy to the forum saving us some stresses on how we could relate to others threads.
Maybe this could be why @Charles-Tim means we are having peace at the moment.

Let's just say sometimes what has an advantage would do have disadvantage at the other hands, sometimes ago, one of us raise an alarm that the forum is flooded with English language which was supposed to be all about pidgin and for that, there is no privacy observations for us in the local board. The forum users might be right or not because there is no tense of secretive ideals to be shared amongst us which other forum users are to be deprived from learning about.

Let's understand this fact that we are not here in the local board to promote our pidgin local language but to discuss about specifically bitcoin related issues and activities going on in our environment at large.

Let's also consider the @Hatchy merit Campaign thread which the merit source @1miau made clear that he is unable to relate with what some of the supposed quality posts referred by Hatchy is talking about. This is also one factor we should be considered. We actually never saw that coming and therein it was kind of a barrier for a foreigner to contribute productively here for the growth of our local board.

To me, let's just keep rolling with any form that we can communicate so effectively.
We are Naija and after much disagreement of some of our fellow members here on this very thread, I hope we still agrees at last because we are just one of a family as long the forum is concerned.
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April 11, 2024, 10:07:53 PM
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Make I for no stress you, if you check the image well, wey almost cover the first page. You go see say no title apart from the topic wey Majestic-mif raise wey be pidgin. All the title dey for normal English wey come make the board look like politics and society or off topic board for general forum. If wey put majority of these titles for ogbonge pigin, people wey enter here go really know say na local board be this.
My people na wetin I get to share be this o.
Me I understand Wetin u dey talk, e no really go well, me I dey hardly post with normal English for dis place, the highest wey I dey do, if I dey use pigin talk, some places dey wey I fit just use normal English, then go back my pigin again. I dey like if I dey post make people wey no dey dis local board no understand Wetin I dey talk, any outsider wey come go just dey look my post, him go dey confuse.

From this title wey you dey talk about, seriously nothing wey we go fit do about am, because the rules for the local board na say make we dey use both English and pigin communicate, and you no fit force anybody to post with any language they want, as long as they are not going against the local board rules, but the only thing wey dey na to dey encourage people make dem dey use pigin often, even if dey wan write topic e go make sense like that pass.

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