Option to Allow / Restrict merits on the OP Posts

[UmerIdrees]

Though it does not have much use case but i think while creating a topic when there are so many options like whether it be a self-moderated thread or not, etc, why not add another option that we can restrict or allow if anyone can put merit on the post?

In general, everyone will allow the OP post to be merited but there can be situations like if any admin or mod, posts a thread he does not need merits and therefore he may restrict the post to be merited, so people and/or the merit sources do not send merits to those posts and rather give merits to ordinary people.

Let me know your comments on this idea 

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[Catenaccio]

In general, everyone will allow the OP post to be merited but there can be situations like if any admin or mod, posts a thread he does not need merits and therefore he may restrict the post to be merited, so people and/or the merit sources do not send merits to those posts and rather give merits to ordinary people.

Let merit comes naturally and merit is a lot, it is not scarce. Restrict other members to send you merit is against forum approach, freedom that is admin vision for the forum.

So admin, mods apply this restriction against freedom, I think they will not do it.

[PX-Z]

You mean if the user has enough merit, so the user doesn't need it anymore?

Well, merit system was introduced so quality posts (some for appreciation) will be rewarded regardless who the poster is, its rank and so on. So restricting posts to receive merit contradicts its purpose.

[Nwada001]

If such is done and implemented, there will be a lot of biassed decisions by the moderators, and you will be putting moderators in a difficult position to select and decide which posts should earn merit and which ones shouldn't. 
 
Let us also not forget that a post that Member A sees as worth meriting can also be the same post that Member B sees as something that is not worth his merit.
 
We all have what we look at in a post before we can say it catches our attention and deserves our merit, so adding such an option will leave the moderators to decide for us which post is supposed to be merited.
 
To me, there is no point in adding that option if there is a post that is not worth meriting, even if it's been created and repeated a million times. It won't earn any merit unless otherwise stated.

[Poker Player]

I think there's no way that's gonna happen. I believe that the balance between potential benefit/drama and protests would be in favor of the latter and, without being perfect, the merit system is fine as it is. So no need for new ideas like this one.

[Helena Yu]

I'm neutral here, not disagree nor agree with your request.

I find it's make sense if the @OP want to restrict merit send to his thread because when someone create a controversial post, few users will say "@OP you want merit?", "merit hunter/seeker" etc etc. So if the @OP restrict the merit on his post, this kind users will not use this reasons anymore.

But since this forum is quite rare to add or update more features, so I think it's high unlikely not happen due to not really important.

[Wapfika]

In general, everyone will allow the OP post to be merited but there can be situations like if any admin or mod, posts a thread he does not need merits and therefore he may restrict the post to be merited, so people and/or the merit sources do not send merits to those posts and rather give merits to ordinary people.

Let me know your comments on this idea 

Since the idea here is to restrict  specific users on having merit, I think it’s more simple if the moderators account itself will be restricted to received merits especially theymos since he doesn’t send merit frequently while he can allocate himself sMerit he need one to share on users joining Bitcointalk events.

It’s impossible to apply this to regular member because all of us wants to receive merits because it’s the basis of our contribution here in the forum.

[sheenshane]

..why not add another option that we can restrict or allow if anyone can put merit on the post?

Not a bad idea or proposal but I think it isn't necessary.  Why?
Because IMO, the sending of merit still depends on merit sources or the merit sender, not on every OP post created.
Give 1 merit only if you think it's for appreciation or if it's more knowledgeable you can send more than 1.  Don't put restrictions if I appreciate one of your posts even though you didn't need to merit it because you're already at a high rank.

The reason why we've merit sources is to ensure that we don't run out of merit.
Everyone likes merit, so let's just allow merit in every post to circulate and be used as it will.

[Davidvictorson]

In general, everyone will allow the OP post to be merited but there can be situations like if any admin or mod, posts a thread he does not need merits and therefore he may restrict the post to be merited, so people and/or the merit sources do not send merits to those posts and rather give merits to ordinary people.

Posts gets merited for several reasons some of them include - agreement with the OP, appreciation to the OP, respectful disagreement, and others. Having the Option being proposed by the OP isn't necessary. If you don't want to receive merits ,it is simple- at the end of each topic simply state that the topic or post shouldn't be merited. This shouldn't be a feature because I don't think there are users who will like the idea besides some users don't care whether they get merits or not.

[Alone055]

Because we don't have a limited amount of Merits available and admin refills the sMerits of merit sources every month, I don't think we need anything like that and anyone should have the right to send Merits to any post they find useful or even generally like the content of it.

This could have been useful if we had a limited amount of Merits and we had the fear of them running out eventually and those who deserve Merits and also need them would be left hanging while those who don't need them will get a bunch, however, that's not the case, and even if people who don't need Merits anymore get as many as possible, that still wouldn't make much of an issue since the supply isn't limited and new sMerits are added to the circulation every month.

[Hatchy]

You mean if the user has enough merit, so the user doesn't need it anymore?

I think that's what op is trying to say and I really don't get why. Another taught I'm having is if one has enough merit then such features will mean that others would be restricted to earn merits from his Post. It would really be unfair to see a nice post and just pass by without meriting it mate. Your idea might fit into some place but still doesn't fits for some reason.

[Churchillvv]

From your own biases it's quite okay for someone to stop himself or herself from recieving merit because there are lots of people out there without enough merit, so the merit should keep flowing around the ones that have less that's your opinion OP but it's not okay for a lot of people here.

The fact is merit shows how authentic a post is, perhaps you could get jealous of see as someone recieving a lots of merit in one post while you have been saying almost the same thing without merit but that's just how things work, you can say the rich in merit is getting richer while the poor in merit remains poor in merit.

The only thing that would have sound good is that merit source should look into the accounts of lower or less merited people that are seriously contributing to the forum and reduce the rate at which they send merit to (subjectively) already fulfilled members (legendary accounts).

[GiftedMAN]

In general, everyone will allow the OP post to be merited but there can be situations like if any admin or mod, posts a thread he does not need merits and therefore he may restrict the post to be merited, so people and/or the merit sources do not send merits to those posts and rather give merits to ordinary people.

Op, don't you think this will affect the merit system if that happens? you can only suggest this if the moderators, admins and merit sources are only allowed to receive merits but not allowed to send out merits that's when you can think of this but for now, I think everyone needs to be merited no matter how much merit the person has already or the position of the person in doing so it helps in the circulation of merits. If the people mentioned stops receiving merits when they make a post, don't you think it will be difficult for ordinary as used by the op to be merited by those people?

[hugeblack]

I agree with this topic, topics like ----> Bitcoin Pizza bake-off contest! Enter by June 1 does not deserve to have send merits option, as it has become a preferred place for merit farming, but such topics are limited and must be manually edited case-by-case by the administrator.

[Oshosondy]

In general, everyone will allow the OP post to be merited but there can be situations like if any admin or mod, posts a thread he does not need merits and therefore he may restrict the post to be merited, so people and/or the merit sources do not send merits to those posts and rather give merits to ordinary people.

You can send merit to any post you like on Bitcointalk. Even theymos do not care if you send merit to anyone. Merit system is good and many people improved their posting and also making newbies to be posting good before they can rank up. That is enough.

I agree with this topic, topics like ----> Bitcoin Pizza bake-off contest! Enter by June 1 does not deserve to have send merits option, as it has become a preferred place for merit farming, but such topics are limited and must be manually edited case-by-case by the administrator.

There are many ways that merit is farmed on this forum but I am sure that admin and moderators will not agree to this. You can know that from the fact that admin and moderators stayed away from merit farming allegations even if proven to be right. It is established members that can tag the merit abusers red.

[Upgrade00]

I have seen a case were a user who was applying to be a merit source indicated at the top of the post that others should not merit the application cause they already had enough merits. This was not heeded and that post still received a handful of merits. Such a feature could have been useful to that user and maybe a few others who have been in that situation.

There may be some cases where this proves useful, like an announcement thread where you don't want merit to be used to buy replies or bias opinions, but even in those there are comments which will be merit worthy.

My take on this is merit is an external action which lies on the user sending the merits and not the one receiving them, just as trust feedbacks. It's up to me to choose who to merit and it's up to you to choose who to send the smerits you get too. I'd you don't want merits then don't make any posts at all.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Let me know your comments on this idea  

No.  The merit system is seemingly doing just fine as it was originally created (with just a few modifications), and it doesn't need any kind of restrictions like you're suggesting.  On top of that, the rule here is that anything that can be abused or used maliciously will be.  That's why the idea of demerits never caught traction, and probably a lot of other proposals that I can't remember at the moment.

Op, don't you think this will affect the merit system if that happens?

I'm not sure if he put a lot of thought into his idea, and he certainly didn't consider the possible consequences were it implemented.  On top of that, I'm not sure if OP understands how important it is that the whole system run smoothly.  The pre-2018 days were just a nightmare of account farming, shitposting, and threads so stupid and filled with garbage that they just made you slap your head.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Sometimes merits are needed, not only for rank. Sometimes you want to thank someone for good posts, but if those who, according to the OP, have enough merit have nothing to express their gratitude with, they will simply end up on the sidelines. Don't worry about merit. Those who are worthy will always receive them, and those who regularly look at them, considering and envying what they think is a “useless waste”  will remain stressed, counting “money in someone else’s wallet.”

[examplens]

In general, everyone will allow the OP post to be merited but there can be situations like if any admin or mod, posts a thread he does not need merits

You are wrong about the purpose of merit. Merit is not given because someone needs it, but to distinguish useful and quality posts.

I agree with this topic, topics like ----> Bitcoin Pizza bake-off contest! Enter by June 1 does not deserve to have send merits option, as it has become a preferred place for merit farming, but such topics are limited and must be manually edited case-by-case by the administrator.

You are right, cases like this are used for merit farming, maybe it would be better to have a limit like one merit per user. Thus, participants can still be rewarded, but they cannot receive more than 1 merit, which would significantly slow things down if it is a question of merit farming.

[Amphenomenon]

I agree with this topic, topics like ----> Bitcoin Pizza bake-off contest! Enter by June 1 does not deserve to have send merits option, as it has become a preferred place for merit farming, but such topics are limited and must be manually edited case-by-case by the administrator.

You are right, cases like this are used for merit farming, maybe it would be better to have a limit like one merit per user. Thus, participants can still be rewarded, but they cannot receive more than 1 merit, which would significantly slow things down if it is a question of merit farming.

I don't really think this will be needed because the rate members shared merits from such contest like the pie Baking and pizza Contest and others is currently reducing yearly since alot of members are now aware of the possible merit farming going on with.

While the entry limit of usually having a minimum of 30 merits will be better than this since this has discourage them for creating a new account because they first need to earn at least 30 merits.