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April 20, 2024, 01:03:16 AM
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In my opinion, the key to enjoying gambling is to see it as a form of entertainment rather than a way to make money. By setting strict limits on how much you’re willing to lose and sticking to those limits, you can enjoy the thrills without putting yourself at risk of major financial setbacks. Enjoying the wins when they come, but not letting the losses drag you down.

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April 20, 2024, 01:13:27 AM
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As OP have already suggested, let me add to what he has talked about with the two things being involved with gambling, if you're being tempted to go for more in gambling and loose, you will be disappointed that you shouldn't have made that decision for doing more, but if it happens that you go against your own wish to gambler more and left, you may not forgive yourself because you're not being satisfies to the level of being contempt with the way you have gamble.
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April 20, 2024, 01:46:55 AM
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This is why many experienced gamblers and traders have said to follow a golden rule and that is to set a particular profit goal. Play until and unless you rich that goal for a particular gambling session. In this manner you will keep a track of yourself, and hence you won’t gamble above the goal limit. Else many of the time it’s seen that, a gambler keeps on gambling thinking that it’s his day, but unfortunately at last bust all the balance.

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April 20, 2024, 01:47:31 AM
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I  think a lot of gamblers will actually be safe if they prepare their minds for even the worst scenario. This is gambling and everyone knows that two things are bound to occur when one gambles,  it's either a win or a loss. Preparing the mind for loss too will save one from too much grieve and unnecessary actions that will cause more harm to the gambler and his loved ones. Many gamblers lose control over their emotions because they only prepared their minds for a win. This is why most of these gamblers who claim to be victims of gambling go extra miles to borrow funds just to gamble. Gamblers will continue to encounter challenges if they view gambling as a winning platform only.

Gamblers should beware of greed. Greed is one of the problems of every gambler,  it is the reason most gamblers fail. A person who walks away after a loss is not a coward. Staying back to gamble does not guarantee the money lost will be recovered. A gambler who chooses to kill the urge to stay back and gamble more has very little to lose.
This is an issue with people in general, I remember that one of my friends was completely crazy about a girl and finally he gathered the courage to ask her out, so far so good, however he could not see himself failing at all, to him it was a given she will agree to a date with him, even if for everyone involved it was clear he was going to get rejected, which is exactly what it happened.

But even then my friend was blindsided by it and was devastated by the rejection, so there is a lot of people out there that cannot possibly imagine themselves failing at anything, and when they do, they do not know how to deal with it.

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April 20, 2024, 03:01:06 AM
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If you accept defeat and walk away, then you're safe, but if you say NO and decide to go in harder, there are still two things involved. It's either you get lucky, win and manage to recover your losses and then run away or you lose the bet once more and lose more than you planned to lose that day.


there are many gamblers who are like that where they prefer not to accept their defeat and keep gambling. as you said there are only 2 possibilities that will happen, they can win and recover their losses/get more money, or they can lose more money than they should. it is a natural law that people who gamble will accept this, so therefore gamblers must be able to wisely determine when they should stop and when they should continue gambling.




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April 20, 2024, 03:38:51 AM
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In my opinion, the key to enjoying gambling is to see it as a form of entertainment rather than a way to make money. By setting strict limits on how much you’re willing to lose and sticking to those limits, you can enjoy the thrills without putting yourself at risk of major financial setbacks. Enjoying the wins when they come, but not letting the losses drag you down.
That's how it should be. Set limit on how much to spend and stick to it. Don't go beyond that, otherwise you'll experience the consequence of not controlling yourself. Greed is also one of the factor on why some gamblers (who became fortunate to win a decent) still end up losing it all. It's because of their greed for wanting more thinking the result will be the same again.

Thus, it's better to play just for fun and not to profit as main desire. Because if the latter is the reason why you keep on playing, you'll just pressure yourself while not noticing you already go beyond your limit on how much money you can only afford to spend.

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April 20, 2024, 05:19:16 AM
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This is only true for a single game or only one session of play. You have won, made a profit and you are faced with the question: what to do next. But in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't make much sense. Most likely, you won by accident and the future fate of your money is also in the hands of Fortune. There is no strategy in this. Sooner or later you will want to play this game again and then these rules are unlikely to help you in any way. The only thing that could help you, besides risk management, is good forecasts.
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April 20, 2024, 05:49:18 AM
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This is exactly what happens to gamblers who refuse to gamble responsibly but decide to chase their losses. I hope you all learned a thing or two from this little rollercoaster ride.
While most of your points(if not at all) are valid yet we must understand that other gamblers are not refusing the responsibility but its just that they are hooked that bad in which they cannot afford denying the betting and the losing.
but trust me some of them are dying to follow the responsible gambling but they cannot.

If you accept defeat and walk away, then you're safe, but if you say NO and decide to go in harder, there are still two things involved. It's either you get lucky, win and manage to recover your losses and then run away or you lose the bet once more and lose more than you planned to lose that day.


there are many gamblers who are like that where they prefer not to accept their defeat and keep gambling. as you said there are only 2 possibilities that will happen, they can win and recover their losses/get more money, or they can lose more money than they should. it is a natural law that people who gamble will accept this, so therefore gamblers must be able to wisely determine when they should stop and when they should continue gambling.




but mostly what happened is that they are losing instead of winning (only the site are gaining more)

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April 20, 2024, 08:56:42 AM
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Once you gamble, you should expect the unexpected at all times. Are you calm now? If you don't expect to be triggered later then just don't expect anything.
I  think a lot of gamblers will actually be safe if they prepare their minds for even the worst scenario. This is gambling and everyone knows that two things are bound to occur when one gambles,  it's either a win or a loss. Preparing the mind for loss too will save one from too much grieve and unnecessary actions that will cause more harm to the gambler and his loved ones. Many gamblers lose control over their emotions because they only prepared their minds for a win. This is why most of these gamblers who claim to be victims of gambling go extra miles to borrow funds just to gamble. Gamblers will continue to encounter challenges if they view gambling as a winning platform only.

Gamblers should beware of greed. Greed is one of the problems of every gambler,  it is the reason most gamblers fail. A person who walks away after a loss is not a coward. Staying back to gamble does not guarantee the money lost will be recovered. A gambler who chooses to kill the urge to stay back and gamble more has very little to lose.
Those who have experienced a lot of ups and downs are prepared for whatever is coming to them. They don't expect a lot but there are also times that they are thinking of some good gains if they're confident with that.

But with that confidence, they're showing to themselves, they're also careful about what they're doing because this is gambling. It's a complete of games that are full of surprises.

You'll never know if your emotion is still right but then, with some losses you'll get triggered and that's what you have to watch out for when you gamble because you're right about greed. It's a major problem of all gamblers.

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April 20, 2024, 09:08:52 AM
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Winning, losing... it's the same cycle engineered to keep you playing. This ain't checkers, it's about those deep-rooted patterns, those urges that become impossible to shake. You think you need luck? Nah, you need self-awareness. The house always wins. That's not bad luck, that's the system. Every "one more spin" mindset digs you deeper, keeps you buying into the illusion

And taking a loan? That's not fixing the problem, it's adding gasoline to the fire. This isn't about getting lucky, it's about getting real. Quitting is the toughest choice of all, but it's your decision, not some cosmic roll of the dice. Responsible gambling is a start, but the real shift is admitting that for some of us, the only responsible play is to walk away

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April 20, 2024, 10:31:44 AM
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In my opinion, the key to enjoying gambling is to see it as a form of entertainment rather than a way to make money. By setting strict limits on how much you’re willing to lose and sticking to those limits, you can enjoy the thrills without putting yourself at risk of major financial setbacks. Enjoying the wins when they come, but not letting the losses drag you down.
That's how it should be. Set limit on how much to spend and stick to it. Don't go beyond that, otherwise you'll experience the consequence of not controlling yourself. Greed is also one of the factor on why some gamblers (who became fortunate to win a decent) still end up losing it all. It's because of their greed for wanting more thinking the result will be the same again.

Thus, it's better to play just for fun and not to profit as main desire. Because if the latter is the reason why you keep on playing, you'll just pressure yourself while not noticing you already go beyond your limit on how much money you can only afford to spend.
Setting limits on your money is the best way to gamble and live in general. Its just the truth. Just think about it: you decide what the rules are and how things will go. Dont worry about getting things done; just enjoy yourself. A clear head means better decisions. And its not even about luck. You have to know the game inside and out and know when to play your hand and when to fold.

Everything is ruined by greed. Trust me, that voice has made even the smartest people lose it. All of a sudden, they start losing. If you want to get rich while gaming, you're doing it all wrong. This is important: pay attention to the event.  Anyone can bet, but are you being smart? Thats a form of art.

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April 20, 2024, 10:55:51 AM
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In my opinion, the key to enjoying gambling is to see it as a form of entertainment rather than a way to make money. By setting strict limits on how much you’re willing to lose and sticking to those limits, you can enjoy the thrills without putting yourself at risk of major financial setbacks. Enjoying the wins when they come, but not letting the losses drag you down.
That's how it should be. Set limit on how much to spend and stick to it. Don't go beyond that, otherwise you'll experience the consequence of not controlling yourself. Greed is also one of the factor on why some gamblers (who became fortunate to win a decent) still end up losing it all. It's because of their greed for wanting more thinking the result will be the same again.

Thus, it's better to play just for fun and not to profit as main desire. Because if the latter is the reason why you keep on playing, you'll just pressure yourself while not noticing you already go beyond your limit on how much money you can only afford to spend.
Setting limits on your money is the best way to gamble and live in general. Its just the truth. Just think about it: you decide what the rules are and how things will go. Dont worry about getting things done; just enjoy yourself. A clear head means better decisions. And its not even about luck. You have to know the game inside and out and know when to play your hand and when to fold.

Everything is ruined by greed. Trust me, that voice has made even the smartest people lose it. All of a sudden, they start losing. If you want to get rich while gaming, you're doing it all wrong. This is important: pay attention to the event.  Anyone can bet, but are you being smart? Thats a form of art.

Yup! that's right, setting limit while doing gambling will help you a lot not to lose more and to maintain your gambling activity in a moderate mode because we have a limit or boundaries that we follow. We need to be more responsible because sometimes even if we already have a limit, there are times that we bet beyond our budgeted money because we want to gain more or we don't want to lose the opportunity but in the end, we will lose more because of greed.




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April 20, 2024, 10:59:37 AM
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This is exactly what happens to gamblers who refuse to gamble responsibly but decide to chase their losses. I hope you all learned a thing or two from this little rollercoaster ride.
A very funny ride with lots of hidden truths in it, my question remains why would someone go through all these stresses just because of indiscipline. All these factors of consideration in your post spans from the fact that the gambler is very much poorly disciplined from the onset and have engaged poorly in gambling, thereby leaving him vulnerable to more damages. When you gamble with a budget and stake what you can afford to loose, you avoid most of the steps in this rollercoaster because the truth is that when you're under the pressure of recovery, you hardly make rational decisions because you are emotionally unstable with the realities of your lost funds and the fiction of possible recovery with more engagement. Addiction wrecks people and puts them in a sorry situation and you can curb all these from the onset by having a gambling budget and staking only what you can afford to loose.

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April 20, 2024, 11:19:11 AM
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In my opinion, the key to enjoying gambling is to see it as a form of entertainment rather than a way to make money. By setting strict limits on how much you’re willing to lose and sticking to those limits, you can enjoy the thrills without putting yourself at risk of major financial setbacks. Enjoying the wins when they come, but not letting the losses drag you down.
Yes, that's how it should be when using gambling. If we could use gambling as entertainment and nothing more, we would not be lost like people because we could use gambling well. Using strict limits can help us not to exceed the limits in gambling. We can also enjoy gambling as entertainment and will not use too much money.

We can avoid gambling if we don't have much time or money. This is a choice to be able to use gambling well and not become addicted to gambling. By always remembering that gambling is entertainment, we will not be too insistent on gambling more often.

We also won't be tempted to gamble too often because that could have bad consequences. Our finances will be disrupted and we will not be able to meet our daily living needs. We can also experience gambling addiction.

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April 20, 2024, 11:33:20 AM
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When someone puts in money into gambling, he should be prepared for two things because there are two things involved, it's either the money is lost or you get some extra more cash (depending on the odds you chose to bet on). and when you eventually win and get an extra cash, two things are still involved.
it's either you walk away with your profit or you decide to try again with the hopes of making more money because you believe today might just be your lucky day.

 If you chose to walk away, then you're on the safer side, and if you choose to go again, there are still two things involved. It's either you win again or you lose your profit as well as what you won earlier.

If you win again and walk away, then you're safe, but if you lose the bet, there are still two things involved. It's either you decide to cut your losses and walk away or you decide put in another money to try again and see if you can manage to recover what you've just lost.

If you walk away, then you're safe but if you decide to put in more money and try again, there are two things involved. It's either you get lucky and win back your money or you lose the bet and throw away more money while trying to make a recovery.

 If you win back your money, then you're safe, but if you lose, there are two things involved. It's either you accept you've been defeated and walk away with whatever you're left with in your account/bankroll or you decide to chase your loss by doubling your usual stake so you can win and recover the ones you've lost with just one single bet and then retire for the day.

If you accept defeat and walk away, then you're safe, but if you say NO and decide to go in harder, there are still two things involved. It's either you get lucky, win and manage to recover your losses and then run away or you lose the bet once more and lose more than you planned to lose that day.

If you win the bet and run away, then you're safe but if you lose again, there are still two things involved. It's either you finally realize that the whole loss chasing is pointless and will only lead to more losses or you become more desperate and frustrated and then decide to go again, this time with a much higher stake or even decide to go all in with everything you've got to make the final kill.

If you realize yourself and walk away while you can, then you're safe but if you decide to go in with a much higher stake or all in. There are two things involved still. It's either you suddenly become the luckiest man on earth by winning the bet and running for your dear life orrrrrrr you become unfortunate and lose all your money and your frustration multiplies by 10 with an addition of confusion.

If you win and run away, then you're safe but if you lose, there are still two things involved. It's either you pull your sorry ass together and give up full of regret or you decide not to give up and decide to take a loan ( for someone who can easily access a loan).

If you give up, then you're safer because with time you'll recover from your losses, but if you decide to take a loan, there are two things involved. It's either God decides to save your sorry ass and allow you to win the bet (because at this point, only God can save you) or you lose the loan money completely and then this is the point you realize what you've done to yourself and then go back home and work your ass off to repay the loan and pick up the remaining pieces of your broken life.

This is exactly what happens to gamblers who refuse to gamble responsibly but decide to chase their losses. I hope you all learned a thing or two from this little rollercoaster ride.

Although it's quite funny the way you wrote the post, it's quite true, which ever decision you make creates a while new possibilities for another two decision again which is kind of funny.

You might also try changing the way you wrote this post cause to sincere, if I wasn't tasked to work, I wouldn't consider reading this post to the end. Next time you could summarise the whole context instead of making It so continuous.

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The whole wall is either if A happens, then blah blah. If A happens, then you do B, blah blah. Kind of contradicting since you can just combine them into one imo.

Anyway in my case I'd much rather ignore the money aspect side of things when gambling. Yes it's there, and I notice it, but regardless I try to stop myself from thinking of it as "money", but instead rather my available tries, which is limited (which is the most important part). Think of it like the coins you get to play on arcades. Makes things more enjoyable, fun, and controlled. Enjoyable and fun since I don't need to mind myself trying to return the money, and controlled since the "coins" I have when I start playing is the limit I set for myself, simple as that.

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April 20, 2024, 02:06:08 PM
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When someone puts in money into gambling, he should be prepared for two things because there are two things involved, it's either the money is lost or you get some extra more cash (depending on the odds you chose to bet on).
Moral of the story: you can always decide what to do next, as there are two alternatives available. It's always up to you to make your own decisions, therefore you have total responsability over your actions in gambling, not being possible to blame others for your own mistakes, in case the outcomes of your decisions don't result on what you initially desired. These 'two things' which are always involved on this activity, characterizes the nature of gambling games, and corroborate with the idea they are random, unpredictable and risky.

For that reason, you should be careful when choosing if you should go through the path of 'one thing' or through the path of the 'another thing', as exemplified on your long initial post full of practical situations. Although redundant, I guess it gives a good notion of how gamblers should be more responsible and conscious that every acts bear consequences, and these consequences can't be delegated to external forces of the fate, which are supposedly out of their control.

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April 22, 2024, 10:56:42 AM
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Lol, it's funny but true, and it all starts from a single mistake that one makes in the initial stage when they don't walk away after either winning or losing, and that is where it all begins. Some gamblers might walk away in the middle because they may realize they are making a mistake by not walking away after losing each time, but some wouldn't understand and they would go to the end until they lose everything and then have no options left other than walking away.

It's understandable that being a gambler, it's not easy to quit when you have lost your money because it haunts you all the time when you are away from the casino in case you couldn't afford to lose the money, but even if you could afford to lose it, you still won't be able to forget about it easily, but when you win, at least then someone should walk away with the profits.

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April 22, 2024, 12:34:16 PM
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As OP have already suggested, let me add to what he has talked about with the two things being involved with gambling, if you're being tempted to go for more in gambling and loose, you will be disappointed that you shouldn't have made that decision for doing more, but if it happens that you go against your own wish to gambler more and left, you may not forgive yourself because you're not being satisfies to the level of being contempt with the way you have gamble.
In as much as i will agree with you i will also want to add that self control is important at this point when you wish to gamble more because sometimes you need to apply this restraint and it's such that you actually don't need a third party to tell you that you should be because in all it's to your own benefit and not to the benefits of the third party so you don't have to wait to be advised when you know tht your funds is at risk if you fail to apply that self control and restraint of not responding to all the forms of urge you get to want to gamble even when it's going to be detrimental to your financial status.

Knowing that gambling is a game of luck with a less than 50% chances of you recording success all the time so it's usually very much better you just make sure to apply some technique that keeps you responsible gambling and aswell keep you at advantage to staying profitable.

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Your post is quite long, but it only repeats one idea, which is the gain and loss in a decision. Any problem, not just gambling, has two sides. You should think carefully before deciding, and once you have decided to choose one side, don't regret the other side.

Most of us often have a greedy mentality, fear of missing out on opportunities when we win money, and regret when we lose. If you keep going around in a cycle of gain and loss, the thing you lose the most may be your time. Think carefully is a good thing, but if you overthinking, you may not make a wise decision later.

Gain and loss are just temporary things, especially in gambling. You must know how to accept losing if you are unlucky that day, or accept the lucky money you win without being greedy when looking at other people's lucky. Just like that you can be at peace with your game.

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