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April 12, 2024, 09:21:15 PM
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Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?

No, I dont think so. Addiction is a psychological - the numbers dont lie, but they dont get to the heart of things either.  Sure, charts might show what someones blowing at the tables or slot machines.  But that cash spent doesnt scratch the itch for more. and  people with gambling problem justify anything when they are riding high or trying to catch the next wave.  Datas just data - it doesnt speak to the soul.  For that, you need understanding compassion.

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April 12, 2024, 09:41:37 PM
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This will depend on how the user  interpret it, tracking one's performance or the rate at which he gambles will only propel him to gamble more because he will want to perform higher and not underperform looking at the chart.

Gambling can only be resolved when one has taken a decision to curb it,not chart or any stats. It requires discipline, Addiction is a psychological issue and should be treated as such not by representation. 

In essence I don't think would be of any help. Someone who is addicted to something can come up with a different interpretation of anything just to fulfil his desire at that moment. And the chart or data stat won't restrict the user so what's the use then.

It a matter of self-reflection, realization, decision and discipline on the side of the gambler.

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April 12, 2024, 09:46:35 PM
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Some betting sites probably have tools to track spending, but come on - an addict ain't gonna suddenly reform just because of a fancy graph.  Theyll either ignore it or use it to rationalize chasing losses.  

If casinos actually wanna help gambling addicts, they gotta give them ways to self-impose limits.  Maybe let them set deposit caps or take breaks from sites.  Stuff like that, you know? Numbers don't cure addiction; self-control does.  And sometimes addicts need assists with self-control.

You are very correct with the point you made and it's good to acknowledge that you understand that most gambling addictions ain't just because the customer can't control themselves, but because they don't have any support in form of such data or breaks or tools to track spending from the sites or casinos they visit.

The gambling houses and sites seem to want more money from the gamblers pocket and as such, the most visiting customer gets a reward or bonus for good patronage.

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April 12, 2024, 09:47:52 PM
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Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?

If graphs, charts and diagrams could help a company or startup to project and know the progress the company or business has made annually or periodically, with concise economic details and investment as well as returns, then don't you think gambling and betting sites should have such user statistics presented in chart form and readily available upon just a click, to the user, so that it helps them know if they have become addicted knowingly or unknowingly and as such, gain control over their gambling or betting habits?

What do you think?
Showing the statistics of our gambling activities over a certain time is a good way to help us know whether we are becoming addicted to gambling or we are just too slow. This is one of the tools some few Casinos do have and they always check whether a gambler is becoming an addict and try to help them where it is possible so that they don't become too addicted to gambling. Gambling is a form of trying our luck to win bets. There are still people that can control themselves and help things so that they don't become too addicted to gambling in which over way. If we know that gambling is becoming a problem to us, it is better we look for ways to help us avoid too much gambling.

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April 12, 2024, 10:24:52 PM
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Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?

If graphs, charts and diagrams could help a company or startup to project and know the progress the company or business has made annually or periodically, with concise economic details and investment as well as returns, then don't you think gambling and betting sites should have such user statistics presented in chart form and readily available upon just a click, to the user, so that it helps them know if they have become addicted knowingly or unknowingly and as such, gain control over their gambling or betting habits?

What do you think?

Most casinos have basic statistics which may well be the basis for drawing conclusions. The question is whether the gambler wants to fight his addiction. As for the graphs, I don’t think they will be useful, maybe the opposite. Look at fans of technical analysis - these are completely addictive people: in price charts they are looking for some kind of miracle patterns that will help them see the future, haha. I would not be surprised if some gamblers, on the charts that the casino will provide, will look for “signals” that they will soon win or “signals” how to place bets  Grin

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April 12, 2024, 10:37:27 PM
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I think it can help at some point. From there, they can evaluate their experience in gambling if they have been doing good so far or they are only losing majority of their bets. Although I would say they’re probably aware of that already, but it’s still a different thing when they see it visibly with their own two eyes. If they want to change their strategy in gambling, well those statistics can really help.

But one thing is certain, if the gambler itself is not willing to admit his weakness in gambling, then he will never be the gambler that he aims to be. Yes, he might still be winning at times, but most likely he is losing most of the time. And that’s what happening to mostly gamblers these days, the reason why they become easily get prone to gambling addiction.

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Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?
I don't see that as a way of reducing gambling addiction instead you put yourself in more jeopardy. It's just like knowing you have HIV and AIDS and there is no way you can cure it, it begins to dry you up. Meaning that sometimes if you know the root cause of your problem is either you change from what you do and adjust yourself to leave a healthier life or begin thinking much about it, which may take up somebody's life earlier than expected. So there is no point having a graph 📈 or statistics of how to regulate those activities.

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April 12, 2024, 10:48:52 PM
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When I play at stake, I open up my stats page and it shows a very concise graph of my recent bets. And you can also download statistics on your profitability or view your detailed gamble history.
It's good to have access to all this data about yourself because some casinos might think people will be inclined to bet more if they make it harder for their players to access their own data.

So yeah, prefer to play at casinos that make it easier to track your stats. These casinos have access to all your history so why not just give it to you? Casinos that have very good tracking are out there, so might as well play at one of them or also use the other ones to embrace stats tracking.

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April 12, 2024, 10:53:58 PM
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Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?

If graphs, charts and diagrams could help a company or startup to project and know the progress the company or business has made annually or periodically, with concise economic details and investment as well as returns, then don't you think gambling and betting sites should have such user statistics presented in chart form and readily available upon just a click, to the user, so that it helps them know if they have become addicted knowingly or unknowingly and as such, gain control over their gambling or betting habits?

What do you think?
Honestly you do you but in my opinion, any form of data that is interpretable and is able to be translated into something that would resemble an action plan is much better than having none at all, so if you're one to spare entire evenings tallying wins and losses as well other modifiers that would be vital to your research, then go for it. But speaking from experience, the only thing that you would ever really need is a raw data sheet of how many times you've won, how many times you've lost, and how much you've gained and lost for each bet.

I do this all the time as part of my budgeting pan, as even though my gambling bankroll's separate from my daily expenses I still make sure I don't go all out and bust the whole thing in a single session, in there, I check on the average just how much I win and lose on my favorite casino (and this part's a little important since every casino's got a different house-edge, knowing or having a hint of just how much that is for you is vital for this plan to work) and from there, make an action plan that would determine just how many times I could play to either make sure I bag a win, or that I don't splurge all my money on a single night.

There's beauty and wisdom in simplicity, and you're not about to show just how much you're losing on gambling to a list of shareholders anyway so why trouble yourself with that when you could just plug the numbers on excel and let its formula thing do the work for you?

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April 12, 2024, 10:59:00 PM
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What do you think?

It would certainly help, yes!

We often look at the numbers and don't have the real dimension of how much money we are losing, because our eyes will always focus more on the money we gained and never on what we lost.
However, when lines and bars gain more emphasis than numbers, it is easier to have a global view of performance at a given time and that is where many players can have a real idea of their performance.

A long time ago, there was a time when I documented my gains and losses every day in a spreadsheet that automatically converted it into a graph... it was really good.
But over time I got lazy and didn't register anything anymore.

In any case, it would be nice if websites made this feature available.

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April 12, 2024, 11:00:04 PM
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Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?

If graphs, charts and diagrams could help a company or startup to project and know the progress the company or business has made annually or periodically, with concise economic details and investment as well as returns, then don't you think gambling and betting sites should have such user statistics presented in chart form and readily available upon just a click, to the user, so that it helps them know if they have become addicted knowingly or unknowingly and as such, gain control over their gambling or betting habits?

What do you think?

Nah, I don't think that gamblers will be interested on that kind of graphs and whatnot.

What gamblers are basically interested is if they are going to win or not or how much they are going to get. So it won't curb the addiction of individuals. For a gambling site to present this complicated numbers to the gambler? I don't think that they are going to bat an eyelash, just saying.

The closest data that they can give us is the Win/Loss record, that's it.
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I don't think they will want to add such features even if it may help to monitor ones activity in gambling. Casinos and gaming sites usually makes more money when players makes lots of bet. So weather a user is becoming addicted and wanting to stop depends on his abilities to control and monitor himself. The casinos will never want to stop you from gambling because if they do that, how then will they make their profit. Just think of it as a business where they sell coffins, thy would pray for people to die so they can make sales. Same with the casinos, they will pray that players makes losses so they can profit from it.
This! And this means that even if the casino implement such feature, it may still not guarantee that the addict gambler will stop from playing and even if they force them to do so, they will still find a way to play via other casinos.

Some casinos are confident of implementing such feature for the said reason and this can make them look good in the eyes of those concerned about gambling addiction. The example you use there sounds pretty scary but I think that's true. Some people won't care about the others only for their own sake. Casinos doesn't need to pray because their system is already making their dreams come true and being greedy to take more advantage is not good anymore. It only makes people to avoid them.

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April 13, 2024, 03:15:59 PM
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.... to the user, so that it helps them know if they have become addicted knowingly or unknowingly and as such, gain control over their gambling or betting habits?

What do you think?

The problem is the majority of gamblers do not want to look at their charts or they are too lazy to do so, this will just verify that they need to stop if they are gambling too much something they don't want because they still enjoy the game.

Graph and chart forms can help professionals to help their patients with the kind of treatment they should give to their patients.

Casinos should have something like this that their players can download to see how they behave in the casinos, and if are they spending too much of their time and money, this is a big help for their addiction recovery if ever they want to stop their addiction.


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It will certainly help because you brought yourself to another level, like you are being serious on what you are doing and you find a way to evaluate your performance. That "graph and chart form" you will create is gonna be your guide in gambling, you'll see if you are profitable or not and sure if you just analyze it well, you'll find a way to improve and eventually win. Not only on the side of winning, because if you experience the other side, you'll know when you stop because by looking at the graph, you can easily spot if you are already bleeding cash.

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April 13, 2024, 03:50:31 PM
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I think that any initiative that is given to improve gambling habits and people who are addicted or about to be addicted would be something great, because basically we have to raise awareness about these things in Schools and everywhere, I personally have always said it, which whether to help people in addiction It is always welcome, and if we Establish a Limit to do things based on statistics by showing graphs, the graphs are very illustrative and will always generate favorable results for any person and that they themselves will be able to see this type of data Because they Understand it faster, for For me it is exceptional and I think that all companies, including casinos, should help with this type of things, at least giving some data and money that can help these types of Initiatives.

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April 13, 2024, 04:14:36 PM
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.... to the user, so that it helps them know if they have become addicted knowingly or unknowingly and as such, gain control over their gambling or betting habits?

What do you think?

The problem is the majority of gamblers do not want to look at their charts or they are too lazy to do so, this will just verify that they need to stop if they are gambling too much something they don't want because they still enjoy the game.

Graph and chart forms can help professionals to help their patients with the kind of treatment they should give to their patients.

Casinos should have something like this that their players can download to see how they behave in the casinos, and if are they spending too much of their time and money, this is a big help for their addiction recovery if ever they want to stop their addiction.


what you stated mate is very correct some gamblers are too lazy to review their past games without knowing how important is. Cause through viewing our Graph is we can analyze it and we have a chance that we can know where to stop in gambling cause If we realized that we are little bit far in gambling then we can pause for a while, and take a break then we can continue once we are in condition and we have enough money to loss cause in gambling there's a small chance of winning so if we think that money is you can afford to loss then that's okay to put in our bankroll.
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April 13, 2024, 04:15:53 PM
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Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?

If graphs, charts and diagrams could help a company or startup to project and know the progress the company or business has made annually or periodically, with concise economic details and investment as well as returns, then don't you think gambling and betting sites should have such user statistics presented in chart form and readily available upon just a click, to the user, so that it helps them know if they have become addicted knowingly or unknowingly and as such, gain control over their gambling or betting habits?

What do you think?
I don’t know if I got the right comprehension of what you’re trying to say, but if I’m not not wrong, you’re trying to say that, the casinos should make ready some sort of chart and statistics for their customers that might need it at any point in time right ?
And if I’m not wrong, you’re also suggesting that, the statistics will help them keep repairs on how much they’re spending to know if they’re getting addicted or not right ?
I think most casinos already have the option of viewing your bet history from the site and the app and I think this feature can also help the gambler keep track of their games, as well as their wins and losses.

Personally I think, everyone goes into business to gather clients and make profits and having a statistics isn’t a nice move for any casino as these might stop some players from betting further.

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April 13, 2024, 04:19:35 PM
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Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?

If graphs, charts and diagrams could help a company or startup to project and know the progress the company or business has made annually or periodically, with concise economic details and investment as well as returns, then don't you think gambling and betting sites should have such user statistics presented in chart form and readily available upon just a click, to the user, so that it helps them know if they have become addicted knowingly or unknowingly and as such, gain control over their gambling or betting habits?

What do you think?

I think it could certainly help to have a tight control over our gambling activity, sure, but we should also recognize such graphs and tools to track our statistics could also turn out to be a very dangerous thing for people who wish to avoid falling into the black out of gambling addiction.
For example, having a curve or a graphic showing the accumulated wager one has versus time could help with control, but it would be very different from having a graph which showed the accumulated losses or the win/losses balance of one through time, in this latter case the graph would not be helping us in any way, shape or form, but they would rather to prompt us to chase losses and be in the green numbers against the casino.

So my final opinion highly depends on the kind of data which is summarized on the graph and the interpretation we give to it.

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(...)What do you think?

This is obvious, as far as I know about the operations of some gambling service platforms, they always have their own team in charge of this issue. With attracting customers, overcoming old problems,... similar to many other things in life, there are statistics to see the activities in their business. In the most specific case, you can calculate the average amount of money from customers so they can know the revenue of the service.

You overlooked what the OP trying to express here. The chart he is describing is for the gamblers stats so that they can easily analyze their gambling progress to determine whether they are already spending enough or not.

The casino surely have this feature but users doesn’t have this feature on their casino account stats. Casino usually just show numbers instead of graphs for players stats. I believe adding chart can help users track their gambling records especially if there’s specific time frame available to view the charts.

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April 13, 2024, 05:14:22 PM
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If graphs, charts and diagrams could help a company or startup to project and know the progress the company or business has made annually or periodically, with concise economic details and investment as well as returns, then don't you think gambling and betting sites should have such user statistics presented in chart form and readily available upon just a click, to the user, so that it helps them know if they have become addicted knowingly or unknowingly and as such, gain control over their gambling or betting habits?

What do you think?

I think such statistics can be able to help some gamblers but it can not help every body, there are people who will pay no attention to it, believe me. Gambling companies or casinos will not even add such kind of feature to their platform because they don't really care whether gamblers are addicted or not, casinos want more customers to flood their platforms and as long as it's not a users that is under age they don't have problems with which ever way the individual decided to gamble or the amount the person loss.

I am no so sure about this but I have the feelings that casinos would even want gamblers to get addicted so that they can keep on gambling all the time.  Grin

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