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April 14, 2024, 06:13:26 AM
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In this era of inflation when the price of every commodity is skyrocketing and the value of our domestic currency investments is decreasing. Desperation covers us as the damage continues to mount. In this case Bitcoin is the only hope for small investors like us. DCAing allows small investors to accumulate bitcoins at weekly or monthly basis which is a very simple process. Although I am a newbie investor here, the bitcoin price chart of the past years excites me. I'm more optimistic when I see that the impact of inflation does not affect the Bitcoin price as much.

What is your assessment and openion? How much of an impact does inflation have on Bitcoin?
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April 14, 2024, 09:28:06 AM
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It works inversely as per experience because when there s inflation the value of other assets will be based on their local currency and we have seen some of them depriciating against the USD and we see more occurrence of this when compared with depriciation in value of USD itself. Hence I would say the investment we make in Bitcoin will be intact as it won't be calculated directly in USD or fiat but the amount of Bitcoin we hold and late it would be converted to our local currency which would have depreciated but you will get more of it when converted from Bitcoin. I am sorry if I am confusing you all i an trying the explain how we are safe with our investment in Bitcoin during the inflation but I think I have given very Uber level info which some of you won't be able to comprehend.









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April 14, 2024, 11:19:30 AM
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Inflation doesn't have any significant effect in bringing the price of bitcoin because bitcoin is different from, it is not controlled by the government. Bitcoin is volatile and it is decentralized in nature. The challenges of fiat is not a problem to bitcoin instead in the time of inflation people will prefer to invest their money in Bitcoin because bitcoin will protect the value of their money. I know bitcoin is a volatile asset  but it is better option for people in the time of inflation. Inflation is at the rise now, and cryptocurrency is one of the assets people consider now.

When fiat depreciates it is difficult for it appreciate back but even if the price of bitcoin falls it is still possible for the price to increase back with a better profit.

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April 14, 2024, 01:52:18 PM
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What is your assessment and openion? How much of an impact does inflation have on Bitcoin?
Inflation cannot affect bitcoin directly, because bitcoin is now a store of value and an hedge to inflation. As the value of fiat depreciates overtime, due to inflation, that is how the value of bitcoin increases overtime due to more people adopting it, and bitcoin has a limited supply of 21 million.

Government can print more money, but an additional bitcoin cannot be created to the 21 million bitcoin created by Satoshi. Inflation can affect bitcoin indirectly in the sense that when everything is expensive, people will no longer have enough that they can use to invest in bitcoin, but they will prefer to take care of their daily needs and forget about investing since they cannot afford it.

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April 14, 2024, 07:07:09 PM
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Inflation doesn't really have anything with bitcoin, they are separate channels. Inflation is usually a factor that affects the fiat currency and not cryptocurrency.  Bitcoin has a max supply and does not reduce in unit. So it is not a product of inflation as it is deflationary. Demand and supply interact with bitcoin direct so that it price could go up or go down but its unit remains the same unlike fiat that printing of more notes alone could be an original plan to increase the rate of inflation affecting products, goods and services.

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April 14, 2024, 08:14:33 PM
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How much of an impact does inflation have on Bitcoin?

None.

Bitcoin is not directly or indirectly connected with the economy of a country, so I don't see any reason for Bitcoin to get affected by inflation or any other economic problem. It affects fiat because fiat is the currency of the country and when a country faces some problem such as inflation or anything else, the currency tends to lose value and lose purchasing power while digital assets and cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin stay unaffected.

Some might think that inflation should affect the price of Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies because other events such as wars, conflicts, and controversial statements regarding Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies do affect the market somehow, but that isn't how things work.
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Other events affect the price of Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies because people often panic sell when they hear some bad news or rumors of bad news regarding Bitcoin and the market.

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In this era of inflation when the price of every commodity is skyrocketing and the value of our domestic currency investments is decreasing. Desperation covers us as the damage continues to mount. In this case Bitcoin is the only hope for small investors like us. DCAing allows small investors to accumulate bitcoins at weekly or monthly basis which is a very simple process. Although I am a newbie investor here, the bitcoin price chart of the past years excites me. I'm more optimistic when I see that the impact of inflation does not affect the Bitcoin price as much.

What is your assessment and openion? How much of an impact does inflation have on Bitcoin?
There are several reasons for inflation to take place, while the inflation caused by an increase on the money supply does not directly affect bitcoin, as governments cannot create bitcoin at will in the same way they can create their fiat, and as such even if a temporary decrease on the number of goods you can buy with your bitcoin will happen, eventually the price of bitcoin should grow to reflect this new reality, however the inflation caused by scarcity or logistic issues will affect you, as the price of bitcoin will not grow in response to that kind of inflation.

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Inflation does affect Bitcoins, but not on a greater scale I must say. Yes unlike other commodities, its price will also go up, but not on a big scale I must say. The price will only get affected through its users. As we know that Bitcoins are limited in numbers, hence if the demand to accumulate it increases, then directly the price also goes up in a similar manner. This only can increase the price significantly.

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Bitcoin's price tends to increase when there is an increment in the global inflation rate because people will start looking for alternative ways to store their money. After all, fiat currencies lose purchasing power when there is high inflation, and no one would want that to happen with their money, and those who know about Bitcoin will most probably choose it to keep their money where their money won't lose purchasing power and it might even grow in value over time if they stay patient.

Based on this scenario, the price of Bitcoin should increase during inflation unlike traditional currencies that tend to lose value in such economic situations. However, this isn't something guaranteed and it might not work this way but that is just my opinion about the topic.

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Bitcoin was created after the severe economic crisis of 2008 and with designs such as decentralization, finite supply... clearly Satoshi wanted to create an asset to combat the inflation that fiat money causes. But today bitcoin is being used as a speculative asset because of its high volatility, so whether we use it to effectively deal with inflation depends on each person. In the short term, bitcoin's volatility is not suitable for us to use it to fight inflation , but if we use it in the long term, bitcoin is even more effective than gold.

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What is your assessment and openion? How much of an impact does inflation have on Bitcoin?
Inflation cannot affect bitcoin directly, because bitcoin is now a store of value and an hedge to inflation. As the value of fiat depreciates overtime, due to inflation, that is how the value of bitcoin increases overtime due to more people adopting it, and bitcoin has a limited supply of 21 million.

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and that is why the price of bitcoin has the potential to increase quite significantly in the next few years with more and more people adopting it and the decreasing supply of bitcoin that can be mined by miners. in fact, it is not even possible that the value of bitcoin could potentially reach 100k or more, considering the large number of retail investors who are starting to be interested in entering the world of bitcoin and the increasing number of investment institutions that are pursuing bitcoin to diversify their investments.

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What is your assessment and openion? How much of an impact does inflation have on Bitcoin?

Inflation by definition is an increase in the prices of goods and services which results in less purchasing power [1].
The definition of deflation according to the source above is a decrease in the price of goods or the opposite of inflation.
The impact of inflation does have an impact on the price of Bitcoin but not too big because it is still in economics that the determination depends on demand and supply because the value of Bitcoin is not the same as fiat currency.

I think if I recommend this topic to you, I won't be wrong because this topic can be a reference to open your insight regarding inflation and the impact of Bitcoin.

[1]. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

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Inflation can affect the purchasing power of bitcoin among each person. You need more money to buy the same needs as before during inflation, meaning you have to pay more for every item you buy. This causes the budget you can set aside to be smaller or even run out of debt, so this kind of thing affects the purchasing power of bitcoin to be lower.

Does this apply to everyone? Of course not, but it certainly affects some people who just have a lower average income than others. While institutional investors and large investors prefer bitcoin and other store of value assets to keep their balance sheets healthy during inflation, so I don't really expect a significant impact either.

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In this era of inflation when the price of every commodity is skyrocketing and the value of our domestic currency investments is decreasing. Desperation covers us as the damage continues to mount. In this case Bitcoin is the only hope for small investors like us. DCAing allows small investors to accumulate bitcoins at weekly or monthly basis which is a very simple process. Although I am a newbie investor here, the bitcoin price chart of the past years excites me. I'm more optimistic when I see that the impact of inflation does not affect the Bitcoin price as much.

What is your assessment and openion? How much of an impact does inflation have on Bitcoin?
I disagree with you because bitcoin is not the only investment opportunity can someone will invest and also survive on the process let me educate some of you that thinks that investing in Bitcoin is the highest option and the easiest way someone can make money from my perspective under my own understanding consign in cryptocurrency I know quite well that the cryptocurrency is something that I know especially Bitcoin that it has advantages and disadvantages during its investment because the price of Bitcoin is not constant and it is unpredictable so investing in Bitcoin you are taking a risk because theirs every probability that price of Bitcoin can decrease in value moment in time

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In this era of inflation when the price of every commodity is skyrocketing and the value of our domestic currency investments is decreasing. Desperation covers us as the damage continues to mount. In this case Bitcoin is the only hope for small investors like us. DCAing allows small investors to accumulate bitcoins at weekly or monthly basis which is a very simple process. Although I am a newbie investor here, the bitcoin price chart of the past years excites me. I'm more optimistic when I see that the impact of inflation does not affect the Bitcoin price as much.

What is your assessment and openion? How much of an impact does inflation have on Bitcoin?
I disagree with you because bitcoin is not the only investment opportunity can someone will invest and also survive on the process let me educate some of you that thinks that investing in Bitcoin is the highest option and the easiest way someone can make money from my perspective under my own understanding consign in cryptocurrency I know quite well that the cryptocurrency is something that I know especially Bitcoin that it has advantages and disadvantages during its investment because the price of Bitcoin is not constant and it is unpredictable so investing in Bitcoin you are taking a risk because theirs every probability that price of Bitcoin can decrease in value moment in time
Because of the price volatility of bitcoin I would choose it. Even because of its decentralization system. You mention risk - relatively investing in bitcoin seems less risky to me as it is limited in quantity and will increase in demand in the future. It will be clear if you look at the past years. I won't make any predictions, bitcoin's past will enlighten you.
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In this era of inflation when the price of every commodity is skyrocketing and the value of our domestic currency investments is decreasing. Desperation covers us as the damage continues to mount. In this case Bitcoin is the only hope for small investors like us.
You can keep believing into bitcoin to hedge against inflation. Basically bitcoin falls into the category of 'alternate investments' like gold, you can diversify your portfolio with bitcoin when stock markets are not performing well due to more job cut and lesser demand to industrial production kind of situation due to inflation. During high inflation times, alternate assets are usually attractive for obvious reasons and bitcoin is one of the alternate asset to keep investing with.

relatively investing in bitcoin seems less risky to me as it is limited in quantity and will increase in demand in the future.
Bitcoin may remain less risky to you only when you opt for long term holding. Governments usually take measurements to bring inflation within control which may happen in short term and may trigger another round of higher inflation which will repeat in cyclic. But, you need to hold bitcoin for at least 3 years to get  profits higher than summed up depression in your life's needs caused by inflation in the same time period.

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Bitcoin is a symbol of financial freedom, no one regulates it and even inflation cannot affect the price of Bitcoin. only supply and demand will affect bitcoin, because the supply of bitcoin is limited, bitcoin will become more valuable. look at how inflation is currently happening, Bitcoin is even continuing to accelerate and usher in a new ATH era. Beginner or professional investors who have entered into bitcoin have contributed in supporting bitcoin, buying and holding it and now more and more new investors are starting to enter making bitcoin even more hype.
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Bitcoin is a symbol of financial freedom, no one regulates it and even inflation cannot affect the price of Bitcoin. only supply and demand will affect bitcoin, because the supply of bitcoin is limited, bitcoin will become more valuable. look at how inflation is currently happening, Bitcoin is even continuing to accelerate and usher in a new ATH era. Beginner or professional investors who have entered into bitcoin have contributed in supporting bitcoin, buying and holding it and now more and more new investors are starting to enter making bitcoin even more hype.
I agree with you. Constantly increasing demand for bitcoin does not affect any other negative factors. New investors are turning more towards bitcoin due to the negative impact of inflation. I present myself as proof of this. I put bitcoin on my top list of best investments because the price historical price history and lack of huge quantity makes me more interested.

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In this era of inflation when the price of every commodity is skyrocketing and the value of our domestic currency investments is decreasing. Desperation covers us as the damage continues to mount. In this case Bitcoin is the only hope for small investors like us. DCAing allows small investors to accumulate bitcoins at weekly or monthly basis which is a very simple process. Although I am a newbie investor here, the bitcoin price chart of the past years excites me. I'm more optimistic when I see that the impact of inflation does not affect the Bitcoin price as much.

What is your assessment and openion? How much of an impact does inflation have on Bitcoin?
I disagree with you because bitcoin is not the only investment opportunity can someone will invest and also survive on the process let me educate some of you that thinks that investing in Bitcoin is the highest option and the easiest way someone can make money from my perspective under my own understanding consign in cryptocurrency I know quite well that the cryptocurrency is something that I know especially Bitcoin that it has advantages and disadvantages during its investment because the price of Bitcoin is not constant and it is unpredictable so investing in Bitcoin you are taking a risk because theirs every probability that price of Bitcoin can decrease in value moment in time
Because of the price volatility of bitcoin I would choose it. Even because of its decentralization system. You mention risk - relatively investing in bitcoin seems less risky to me as it is limited in quantity and will increase in demand in the future. It will be clear if you look at the past years. I won't make any predictions, bitcoin's past will enlighten you.

I think the risk also involves security and safe practice. We have heard horror stories on how some individual gets rob of their Bitcoin, so it's not about our investment only, it how we are Be Your Own Bank (BYOB) sort of risk.

Of course, the design of Satoshi is truly amazing as every 4 years, we will see the supply getting halved and so the supply is dwindling but the demand is going to be high and this kind of protocol will survived inflation if we chooses to invest HODL and then sell at the right time with profits. And it's a formula that have work since the inception and there are a lot of crypto millionaires who simply follow that foul proof formula.
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Inflation doesn't really have anything with bitcoin, they are separate channels. Inflation is usually a factor that affects the fiat currency and not cryptocurrency.  Bitcoin has a max supply and does not reduce in unit. So it is not a product of inflation as it is deflationary. Demand and supply interact with bitcoin direct so that it price could go up or go down but its unit remains the same unlike fiat that printing of more notes alone could be an original plan to increase the rate of inflation affecting products, goods and services.
It can affect BTC but maybe not directly. It is when there are inflation, people can keep their money in some assets like crypto, to retain/recover its value and also to earn a profit. Bitcoin does reduce in unit. It is when they are being mined and also when they are halved which occurs every four years. This year is another schedule of it. This act is also another reason on why Bitcoins value can rise. I don't know if banks and governments can benefit if they intentionally raise the inflation rates. It's also dumb to think that printing more money will solve their financial issues. Inflation can still be caused by other factors not only it and they might be the main driver.

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April 26, 2024, 12:34:13 PM
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In this era of inflation when the price of every commodity is skyrocketing and the value of our domestic currency investments is decreasing. Desperation covers us as the damage continues to mount. In this case Bitcoin is the only hope for small investors like us. DCAing allows small investors to accumulate bitcoins at weekly or monthly basis which is a very simple process. Although I am a newbie investor here, the bitcoin price chart of the past years excites me. I'm more optimistic when I see that the impact of inflation does not affect the Bitcoin price as much.

What is your assessment and openion? How much of an impact does inflation have on Bitcoin?

You can to look at it, Bitcoin has limited supply isn't it, that alone shows how Bitcoin price is going to move, more demand, less supply=prices go up, basic economic law. And with that it means that as a commodity, it is being look at a hedge against the inflation because of how Satoshi design it.

So if there is a impact, it is that people should invest or put their wealth on Bitcoin easy as that. They can fight that inflation as prices of Bitcoin are going up every 4 years, new all time high are set and so our money are not only safe guarded, but multiplying because of how it is design.
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In this era of inflation when the price of every commodity is skyrocketing and the value of our domestic currency investments is decreasing. Desperation covers us as the damage continues to mount. In this case Bitcoin is the only hope for small investors like us. DCAing allows small investors to accumulate bitcoins at weekly or monthly basis which is a very simple process. Although I am a newbie investor here, the bitcoin price chart of the past years excites me. I'm more optimistic when I see that the impact of inflation does not affect the Bitcoin price as much.

What is your assessment and openion? How much of an impact does inflation have on Bitcoin?
You can to look at it, Bitcoin has limited supply isn't it, that alone shows how Bitcoin price is going to move, more demand, less supply=prices go up, basic economic law. And with that it means that as a commodity, it is being look at a hedge against the inflation because of how Satoshi design it.

So if there is a impact, it is that people should invest or put their wealth on Bitcoin easy as that. They can fight that inflation as prices of Bitcoin are going up every 4 years, new all time high are set and so our money are not only safe guarded, but multiplying because of how it is design.
I feel like if people want to fight inflation, first battle should be against their income and not their investment. If inflation goes up, and they are making either same amount of money or still less than what inflation is, then they are getting poorer. In a nation with 10% inflation, if someone gets 5% raise on their salary, they didn't get a raise, they actually get paid less than they used to get paid.

This is why I think the first fight should always be against their income, and they should find a way to make more money. However, I agree that second should be investing that money into bitcoin because they are going to make a lot of money from crypto if they do that, and it is not going to be easy but eventually when they have enough, they will realize that they got richer thanks to this decision.

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April 26, 2024, 10:13:03 PM
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It is natural that inflation will occur if the price of goods increases continuously. Inflation rate of a country indicates the economic condition of that country. But it is not possible for me to predict how much Bitcoin can be helpful in reducing the rate of inflation in a country. However, Bitcoin and cryptocurrency can be an important helper in reducing the inflation rate of a country because in this case the supply of Bitcoin is limited and due to this limited supply, it will not be possible to supply as per the demand in the market as a result of which the automatic inflation will decrease.

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May 01, 2024, 02:19:17 PM
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BTC investors don't worry too much like the way other business men and women use to worry about inflation in their businesses  because bull run use to happen in the season of inflation for BTC investors to accumulate profits that will reach them to embrace another opportunity in the future.

It was a great opportunity for those that bought BTC last two years and hodl till last month before selling, and they have achieved what will make them not to experience  inflation.

If you have not invest in BTC this season, I will advise you to look for money or save some money to buy BTC because the price has dumped to $57k today, and it will help you not to follow other people in your country to experience inflation because the price of BTC can pump at any time to help hodlers to earn good profits.

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Bitcoin's not that giving out a significant impact to the inflation of many countries because if it did, we would've known about it and economists all over the world would be talking about it, the problem is that bitcoin investors and hodlers don't make up a large percentage of the population of the world so even if there's a million of us, there's really not a lot of things that we can contribute to the reduction of inflation of our respective countries, maybe the best thing that we could've done about all of this is that we aren't always zero balance because we're hodling bitcoin.

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In this era of inflation when the price of every commodity is skyrocketing and the value of our domestic currency investments is decreasing. Desperation covers us as the damage continues to mount. In this case Bitcoin is the only hope for small investors like us. DCAing allows small investors to accumulate bitcoins at weekly or monthly basis which is a very simple process. Although I am a newbie investor here, the bitcoin price chart of the past years excites me. I'm more optimistic when I see that the impact of inflation does not affect the Bitcoin price as much.

What is your assessment and openion? How much of an impact does inflation have on Bitcoin?
No doubt, like any other asset, Bitcoin has helped to hedge against inflation in the past, but with the current status of the coin, I do not think it would be easy anymore. Take for instance, if you buy Bitcoin at $65,000 and the inflation in your country bites to the point that the goods you want to buy or the service you want to purchase has truly skyrocketed to at least 4 times as it is currently happening in my country, whereas Bitcoin could only move to $125,000. What do you do? This obviously cannot hedge the inflation, but as an investment, if it moves higher for at least a reasonable degree, it will still help the person to limit the effect of the inflation and it depends on the performance of Bitcoin at the time.

And I must advise you, do not invest in Bitcoin simply because of its past history, it may fail you and a good investment warning forbids that. You should invest in it because you believe in it, that's better in case anything bad happens. Bitcoin enjoyed its low price then and the early investors were so lucky, but at this time when the price is somewhat high, extreme care is needed to avoid issues.

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The price of bitcoin doesn't have any kind of impact to the inflation, the products increase in prices aren't even remotely connected to the price of bitcoin going up or down. Unless of course there's a study out there that will correlate it but for now, I do think that it's not the case. @Maus0728 is right, we would've known about it's significant impact if people in the position to talk about it without sounding like they don't have a clue what they're talking about are talking about bitcoin and it's impact to the economy but that seems to be not the case on this one so I'm sure that there's probably some way that it impacts the economy of a country or the inflation of the country but it's probably on the individual scale.



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In this era of inflation when the price of every commodity is skyrocketing and the value of our domestic currency investments is decreasing. Desperation covers us as the damage continues to mount. In this case Bitcoin is the only hope for small investors like us. DCAing allows small investors to accumulate bitcoins at weekly or monthly basis which is a very simple process. Although I am a newbie investor here, the bitcoin price chart of the past years excites me. I'm more optimistic when I see that the impact of inflation does not affect the Bitcoin price as much.

What is your assessment and openion? How much of an impact does inflation have on Bitcoin?
No doubt, like any other asset, Bitcoin has helped to hedge against inflation in the past, but with the current status of the coin, I do not think it would be easy anymore. Take for instance, if you buy Bitcoin at $65,000 and the inflation in your country bites to the point that the goods you want to buy or the service you want to purchase has truly skyrocketed to at least 4 times as it is currently happening in my country, whereas Bitcoin could only move to $125,000. What do you do? This obviously cannot hedge the inflation, but as an investment, if it moves higher for at least a reasonable degree, it will still help the person to limit the effect of the inflation and it depends on the performance of Bitcoin at the time.

And I must advise you, do not invest in Bitcoin simply because of its past history, it may fail you and a good investment warning forbids that. You should invest in it because you believe in it, that's better in case anything bad happens. Bitcoin enjoyed its low price then and the early investors were so lucky, but at this time when the price is somewhat high, extreme care is needed to avoid issues.

Well explained and the question is whether Bitcoin acted like a hedge against inflation because people saw it like a hedge or whether Bitcoin had this amazing development because it was a new technology. I still think it has hedge potential because it has good chances to continue to grow. But I remember when the crisis hit in early 2020, it seemed to cause uncertainty among people as to whether or not it would be the right decision to hold Bitcoin. To put it differently, if a crisis hits really hard, would people find themselves forced to liquidate an asset like Bitcoin in order to pay for whatever they have to pay in life? Mortgages, insurances, rent, food, car repairs etc. I think for those who can afford to hold Bitcoin, it is an excellent asset to hold as a counter to inflation because of its growth potential, but there will be people who may choose to liquidate Bitcoin first when they get into trouble.

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May 02, 2024, 04:44:04 AM
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No doubt, like any other asset, Bitcoin has helped to hedge against inflation in the past, but with the current status of the coin, I do not think it would be easy anymore. Take for instance, if you buy Bitcoin at $65,000 and the inflation in your country bites to the point that the goods you want to buy or the service you want to purchase has truly skyrocketed to at least 4 times as it is currently happening in my country, whereas Bitcoin could only move to $125,000. What do you do? This obviously cannot hedge the inflation, but as an investment, if it moves higher for at least a reasonable degree, it will still help the person to limit the effect of the inflation and it depends on the performance of Bitcoin at the time.

And I must advise you, do not invest in Bitcoin simply because of its past history, it may fail you and a good investment warning forbids that. You should invest in it because you believe in it, that's better in case anything bad happens. Bitcoin enjoyed its low price then and the early investors were so lucky, but at this time when the price is somewhat high, extreme care is needed to avoid issues.
I do not think that it would be impossible, it is just taking sometime to get back to ATH levels, but look at how much we increased in the last year. Remember, this coin was under 20k for a while, I think the bottom hit somewhere close to 15k or 16k whatever, which means that we are still four times higher than that even with the current situation.

People look at the top, but they never calculate the bottom and the reality is that compared to the bottom we are doing a lot better right now, that is all that should matter. I personally believe that we are going to have some trouble one way or another, and shouldn't really be doing anything bigger than that. Just focus on the benefits that we had, maybe you and I couldn't, but the general market went up a lot.

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May 02, 2024, 10:30:25 AM
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No doubt, like any other asset, Bitcoin has helped to hedge against inflation in the past, but with the current status of the coin, I do not think it would be easy anymore. Take for instance, if you buy Bitcoin at $65,000 and the inflation in your country bites to the point that the goods you want to buy or the service you want to purchase has truly skyrocketed to at least 4 times as it is currently happening in my country, whereas Bitcoin could only move to $125,000. What do you do? This obviously cannot hedge the inflation, but as an investment, if it moves higher for at least a reasonable degree, it will still help the person to limit the effect of the inflation and it depends on the performance of Bitcoin at the time.

And I must advise you, do not invest in Bitcoin simply because of its past history, it may fail you and a good investment warning forbids that. You should invest in it because you believe in it, that's better in case anything bad happens. Bitcoin enjoyed its low price then and the early investors were so lucky, but at this time when the price is somewhat high, extreme care is needed to avoid issues.
I do not think that it would be impossible, it is just taking sometime to get back to ATH levels, but look at how much we increased in the last year. Remember, this coin was under 20k for a while, I think the bottom hit somewhere close to 15k or 16k whatever, which means that we are still four times higher than that even with the current situation.

People look at the top, but they never calculate the bottom and the reality is that compared to the bottom we are doing a lot better right now, that is all that should matter. I personally believe that we are going to have some trouble one way or another, and shouldn't really be doing anything bigger than that. Just focus on the benefits that we had, maybe you and I couldn't, but the general market went up a lot.

But not everyone can buy bitcoin for less than $20k and there are new investors entering the market, some have bought for $70k. Not to mention currently bitcoin is correcting and there is no guarantee that it will recover and rise again.

I agree with what EarnOnVictor said, don't invest in bitcoin just because of its history because things are changing with time. In the past, we have seen bitcoin increase by 1000%, 10000% and more. But I think that won't happen anymore because things have become very different, bitcoin has become bigger to be able to bring us such big profits.

In addition, to solve inflation we need many solutions, not just relying on bitcoin, because anything can happen. Think of the scenario, bitcoin doesn't go up in price or worse things happen to it. Don't be subjective and especially with a volatile asset like bitcoin.

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May 02, 2024, 11:06:16 AM
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No doubt, like any other asset, Bitcoin has helped to hedge against inflation in the past, but with the current status of the coin, I do not think it would be easy anymore. Take for instance, if you buy Bitcoin at $65,000 and the inflation in your country bites to the point that the goods you want to buy or the service you want to purchase has truly skyrocketed to at least 4 times as it is currently happening in my country, whereas Bitcoin could only move to $125,000. What do you do? This obviously cannot hedge the inflation, but as an investment, if it moves higher for at least a reasonable degree, it will still help the person to limit the effect of the inflation and it depends on the performance of Bitcoin at the time.

And I must advise you, do not invest in Bitcoin simply because of its past history, it may fail you and a good investment warning forbids that. You should invest in it because you believe in it, that's better in case anything bad happens. Bitcoin enjoyed its low price then and the early investors were so lucky, but at this time when the price is somewhat high, extreme care is needed to avoid issues.
I do not think that it would be impossible, it is just taking sometime to get back to ATH levels, but look at how much we increased in the last year. Remember, this coin was under 20k for a while, I think the bottom hit somewhere close to 15k or 16k whatever, which means that we are still four times higher than that even with the current situation.

People look at the top, but they never calculate the bottom and the reality is that compared to the bottom we are doing a lot better right now, that is all that should matter. I personally believe that we are going to have some trouble one way or another, and shouldn't really be doing anything bigger than that. Just focus on the benefits that we had, maybe you and I couldn't, but the general market went up a lot.
Overall, we do not see any reason to be disappointed in the downward trend of the market. Periodically we see the price of the market and its movement is not fixed at a time.  Even though the after ATH is now at its lowest point, This price does not seem unusual to me, compared to the previous stable. This may lead to some loss of margin but you should remember that you are in the BTC market and time will pay you back. Even you should be grateful to your time- a long-term investment.
You are right that people always look at the top price, actually we are interested in picking only profit through investment. It was better to accept the facts and take the overall view of our inferiority positively.

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May 02, 2024, 12:11:40 PM
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The independence Bitcoin has got is such that it's in no way tied to the economy of any particular country and at such there can be no way where Bitcoin is going to be affected by the inflation a particular country is suffering at anytime, and that's one of the benefits Bitcoin gets from been decentralized,no actually control from any country or region so as to be impacted by their economic situation at any point in time it's actually independent of all of that and makes it's progression according to it's cycle and events of influence around it. Inflation will always affect Fiat because they have got the attachment to the economy of their local countries but not same with Bitcoin.

Bitcoin can be likened to a universal currency thst has investing opportunities around while staying decentralized so little to no effect of economy situations can actually impact it as it's a store of value too where people rather store in times of inflation in their local economy so as get yields after the inflation when Bitcoin has appreciated in it's value, their investment becomes of even more economic value to them than it's been earlier.

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May 03, 2024, 08:10:52 AM
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No doubt, like any other asset, Bitcoin has helped to hedge against inflation in the past, but with the current status of the coin, I do not think it would be easy anymore. Take for instance, if you buy Bitcoin at $65,000 and the inflation in your country bites to the point that the goods you want to buy or the service you want to purchase has truly skyrocketed to at least 4 times as it is currently happening in my country, whereas Bitcoin could only move to $125,000. What do you do? This obviously cannot hedge the inflation, but as an investment, if it moves higher for at least a reasonable degree, it will still help the person to limit the effect of the inflation and it depends on the performance of Bitcoin at the time.

And I must advise you, do not invest in Bitcoin simply because of its past history, it may fail you and a good investment warning forbids that. You should invest in it because you believe in it, that's better in case anything bad happens. Bitcoin enjoyed its low price then and the early investors were so lucky, but at this time when the price is somewhat high, extreme care is needed to avoid issues.
I do not think that it would be impossible, it is just taking sometime to get back to ATH levels, but look at how much we increased in the last year. Remember, this coin was under 20k for a while, I think the bottom hit somewhere close to 15k or 16k whatever, which means that we are still four times higher than that even with the current situation.

People look at the top, but they never calculate the bottom and the reality is that compared to the bottom we are doing a lot better right now, that is all that should matter. I personally believe that we are going to have some trouble one way or another, and shouldn't really be doing anything bigger than that. Just focus on the benefits that we had, maybe you and I couldn't, but the general market went up a lot.
I never mentioned impossibility here but rather a concern. I mean another scope that is a possibility with Bitcoin that many may not be looking towards. Anything can happen in the financial market with any assets which include Bitcoin, so it would be unwise of me to say that it can't be moving higher, but I was just saying something that could cause another issue if care is not taken in another view of it. I am never a blind follower of the market and the recent fall never slipped off my radar because I am a friend of my trading chart and I analyse many times daily, unlike some people who will just be a blind holder and miss out often, we need to be smart.

We are all expecting Bitcoin to reach $100,000 and above, but are we all looking at the constraints that could make this not happen as well for us to prepare beforehand? That's the difference between the two of us here. And fine, Bitcoin dropped and rose back, interesting, but it is not the only asset that has done that, and the effect after being added to the mainstream of the financial market can't be the same anymore. It will never behave dangerously again like what many still expected of it. These are my concerns, institutional investors are taking over, and it might behave differently now whether we like it or not. And for Bitcoin to perform excellently like before, it might take time, not that it will be impressive all the time. I believe it has done most of what it would do this time and in the space of decades, it might be able to reach and hold above $100,000 conveniently depending on the factors it faces at that time.

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May 03, 2024, 12:44:32 PM
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I do not think that it would be impossible, it is just taking sometime to get back to ATH levels, but look at how much we increased in the last year. Remember, this coin was under 20k for a while, I think the bottom hit somewhere close to 15k or 16k whatever, which means that we are still four times higher than that even with the current situation.

People look at the top, but they never calculate the bottom and the reality is that compared to the bottom we are doing a lot better right now, that is all that should matter. I personally believe that we are going to have some trouble one way or another, and shouldn't really be doing anything bigger than that. Just focus on the benefits that we had, maybe you and I couldn't, but the general market went up a lot.
Overall, we do not see any reason to be disappointed in the downward trend of the market. Periodically we see the price of the market and its movement is not fixed at a time.  Even though the after ATH is now at its lowest point, This price does not seem unusual to me, compared to the previous stable. This may lead to some loss of margin but you should remember that you are in the BTC market and time will pay you back. Even you should be grateful to your time- a long-term investment.
You are right that people always look at the top price, actually we are interested in picking only profit through investment. It was better to accept the facts and take the overall view of our inferiority positively.
I do agree that there is nothing to be upset about, we are seeing how things are moving right now and I think it is clear that we are going to do a lot better, we just need to make sure that we can handle it all, and for that to work as well as we hope it would, we need to realize that things will take time to recover, which is why I believe that we can't really make it work anyway we want.

It's clear that we are not going to get anything out of it, it's really not the method we want, we just need to make sure that it is going to get harder and harder in the end, so it has to be something to care about more and more. We should probably stay away from it whenever we can, and it will not be a simple situation to manage it.

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not everyone can buy bitcoin for less than $20k and there are new investors entering the market, some have bought for $70k. Not to mention currently bitcoin is correcting and there is no guarantee that it will recover and rise again.

I agree with what EarnOnVictor said, don't invest in bitcoin just because of its history because things are changing with time. In the past, we have seen bitcoin increase by 1000%, 10000% and more. But I think that won't happen anymore because things have become very different, bitcoin has become bigger to be able to bring us such big profits.

In addition, to solve inflation we need many solutions, not just relying on bitcoin, because anything can happen. Think of the scenario, bitcoin doesn't go up in price or worse things happen to it. Don't be subjective and especially with a volatile asset like bitcoin.

When you say less than $20k that can also mean super low amounts and what if BTC drop there one day? But, it's always better to just do a DCA. We aren't still forced to buy the whole coin. Actually it is more guarantee for BTC to recover and rise because like you said, there will always be new people that enters here. There is only no specific time for it, this is why patience is the main requirement here.

When it comes to investing, history is also one of the things that we check but of course we will still compare it to their current performance and decide if they are still good to pick up or not. There are still people who analyse the same as you and this is why they go for a cheaper and newer coins instead. That's up to them and it's their risks or responsibility already whatever happens to them or their money.

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What is your assessment and openion?
The investment route is a tool for someone to reach the stage of financial freedom, but we need preparation so as not to influence it. For example, having spare money to meet daily needs and always surviving conditions that occur with bitcoin, such as price drops. Bitcoin can have a good impact on those of us who invest as long as the investment we make does not affect life's necessities.

How much of an impact does inflation have on Bitcoin?
There has been an impact of inflation that has affected human life, but Bitcoin can provide resilience in that case. If said further, the impact of inflation does not really affect Bitcoin because this asset can always recover at certain moments.

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May 07, 2024, 04:39:34 PM
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A major reason why bitcoin is so valuable to me is how much it shields me from inflation. This doesn't mean I don't get affected my inflation, of course not, I still buy stuff as ridiculously high prices but my savings don't depreciates. Without bitcoin my savings would be in my local currency or dollar, both of which depreciates over time, even though my local currency is way worse, but with bitcoin I don't have to worry about that. Even if the value drops, all I need to do is control my emotions enough and be patient for the value to rise again.

Inflation doesn't have any significant effect in bringing the price of bitcoin because bitcoin is different from, it is not controlled by the government.

One could argue that the price of bitcoin goes up a bit when dollar depreciates and can make a case for that argument. When dollar depreciates and there is inflation, more people convert their savings into bitcoin so it doesn't lose value, this in turn can creates an increase in demand of bitcoin and could increase the price. Since I have no proof for that, it's just a theory, but in my country, a lot of people keep their savings in bitcoin to avoid inflation and I believe that has an effect on bitcoin price.

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