Bitcoin Forum
May 02, 2024, 04:39:05 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 [2]  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Deleted  (Read 386 times)
LoyceV
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3304
Merit: 16583


Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021


View Profile WWW
April 19, 2024, 05:54:14 AM
 #21

Everyone trusts hardware wallets to secure cryptocurrencies, but how can the authenticity of a hardware wallet be verified so that it has not been tampered with or compromised during production or distribution?
That's a tough one Sad It's recommended to only buy hardware wallets directly from the manufacturer (and never from third parties). After that, you can follow the authentication process on their website. But indeed, it's one of the things I never feel 100.0000000% sure about. It's too much of a black box.

Quote
Which one do you recommend hardware wallet or air gapped wallet?
It depends on your usage, and skills. You could go extreme and setup an air gapped hardware wallet, with a seed created from dice rolls. But for the average user, usually a hardware wallet is the safest compromise. Unless they enter their seed words on a recovery phishing website, there's no protection against that.
A hardware wallet is a lot more convenient to use than an air gapped system. You don't have to limit yourself to just one wallet.

1714667945
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714667945

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714667945
Reply with quote  #2

1714667945
Report to moderator
1714667945
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714667945

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714667945
Reply with quote  #2

1714667945
Report to moderator
"Bitcoin: mining our own business since 2009" -- Pieter Wuille
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
1714667945
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714667945

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714667945
Reply with quote  #2

1714667945
Report to moderator
1714667945
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714667945

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714667945
Reply with quote  #2

1714667945
Report to moderator
ABCbits
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2870
Merit: 7447


Crypto Swap Exchange


View Profile
April 19, 2024, 09:48:00 AM
 #22

Everyone trusts hardware wallets to secure cryptocurrencies, but how can the authenticity of a hardware wallet be verified so that it has not been tampered with or compromised during production or distribution?
That's a tough one Sad It's recommended to only buy hardware wallets directly from the manufacturer (and never from third parties). After that, you can follow the authentication process on their website. But indeed, it's one of the things I never feel 100.0000000% sure about. It's too much of a black box.

FWIW, some hardware wallet company create list of authorized reseller/distributor. Although i don't expect they're being monitored closely by HW company. And few hardware wallet is completely open (both hardware and software), where theoretically you could verify everything assuming you have time and skill to do that.


█▀▀▀











█▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
e
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
█████████████
████████████▄███
██▐███████▄█████▀
█████████▄████▀
███▐████▄███▀
████▐██████▀
█████▀█████
███████████▄
████████████▄
██▄█████▀█████▄
▄█████████▀█████▀
███████████▀██▀
████▀█████████
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
c.h.
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀█











▄▄▄█
▄██████▄▄▄
█████████████▄▄
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███░░█████████
███▌▐█████████
█████████████
███████████▀
██████████▀
████████▀
▀██▀▀
LoyceV
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3304
Merit: 16583


Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021


View Profile WWW
April 19, 2024, 10:27:04 AM
 #23

FWIW, some hardware wallet company create list of authorized reseller/distributor.
It still comes down to trusting someone.

Quote
few hardware wallet is completely open (both hardware and software), where theoretically you could verify everything assuming you have time and skill to do that.
Just like with Open Source software, most people will rely on other people to do that. There's always some trust involved, and that's the part I dislike (but I can't avoid it either).

Pmalek
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2758
Merit: 7125



View Profile
April 19, 2024, 02:02:29 PM
 #24

And few hardware wallet is completely open (both hardware and software), where theoretically you could verify everything assuming you have time and skill to do that.
Any hardware wallet that has a secure element chip, and most of them do, can't be called open-source hardware-wise. The proper term would be as open-source as possible, something that Trezor used in one of its public communications a long time ago when the info about them creating their own secure element was fresh. I think even Foundation describes their products as having fully open-source hardware and software.

.
.BLACKJACK ♠ FUN.
█████████
██████████████
████████████
█████████████████
████████████████▄▄
░█████████████▀░▀▀
██████████████████
░██████████████
████████████████
░██████████████
████████████
███████████████░██
██████████
CRYPTO CASINO &
SPORTS BETTING
▄▄███████▄▄
▄███████████████▄
███████████████████
█████████████████████
███████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
███████████████████████
█████████████████████
███████████████████
▀███████████████▀
█████████
.
Pmalek
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2758
Merit: 7125



View Profile
April 19, 2024, 05:01:02 PM
 #25

I want to know details about the secure element chip. Can you please elaborate on the cryptographic protocols employed by the secure element chip within the hardware wallet to protect users' private keys and sensitive data?
This isn't really the place to discuss hardware wallets or secure elements, but since you brought it up... A secure element is a safe enclosure for your private keys. They stay safely on the chip to prevent outside access. The data is encrypted and only decrypted when needed. Random number generators create the private keys in a fair and unbiased manner.

I am not sure if that answers your question. You can read Secure Elements in Hardware Wallets for more information.

.
.BLACKJACK ♠ FUN.
█████████
██████████████
████████████
█████████████████
████████████████▄▄
░█████████████▀░▀▀
██████████████████
░██████████████
████████████████
░██████████████
████████████
███████████████░██
██████████
CRYPTO CASINO &
SPORTS BETTING
▄▄███████▄▄
▄███████████████▄
███████████████████
█████████████████████
███████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
███████████████████████
█████████████████████
███████████████████
▀███████████████▀
█████████
.
Pages: « 1 [2]  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!