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April 16, 2024, 10:17:10 AM
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Probably general decline of discussions here, so close to the halving I will have expected discussions to be on the rise as Bitcoin climbs up the search engines as one of the most talked about topics, that's not happening just yet.
I don't think people come because of halving since people usually come to the forum to ask newbie questions about their problems (including me). Previously, there were Claymore miner threads, other miners' software, and new altcoin projects full of Q&A.

Just like what @Vod said, forum users peaked probably around 2017/2018 -> Massive spam -> Merit system, and so on.

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April 16, 2024, 10:25:39 AM
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If you observe the "posts per month" graph from ninjastic.space, it's clear that the mixer ban isn't the reason for the decline. The Mixer ban started from the end of 2023 to the beginning of 2024, while the decline began in 2022, and probably even earlier. Nowadays, there isn't much hype and discussion on altcoins, bounties, or ICOs, which were the sources of posts and discussions. When was the last time you remember new projects worthy of discussion? Lately, there are only meme tokens that serve no purpose and offer no extractable knowledge.

This.

Pretty much nothing left to discuss other than the price maybe and I feel like even that’s not interesting anymore because we don’t see the huge market moves very often like we used to.

We reached to the point where adding more tech is creating more problems instead of solving any.

We have seen it with the ordinals recently. It solved nothing but increased the fees which benefits nobody but the miners.

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April 16, 2024, 11:05:49 AM
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Not gonna lie, I'm getting bored of this forum.

Censorship (mixers), prominent members (or as I thought) turning out to be dickheads, can't see myself reading anything other than my local board (so much unnatural and boring content elsewhere). At one point I can see myself just leaving.

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April 16, 2024, 11:24:48 AM
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I don't think people come because of halving since people usually come to the forum to ask newbie questions about their problems (including me). Previously, there were Claymore miner threads, other miners' software, and new altcoin projects full of Q&A.
Yeah, this is true for users who are honestly interested in learning about bitcoin and by extension the forum. What halving and an increase in price does is attract those who are only curious cause Bitcoin has again come into the spotlight and are hoping there's a way they can make some money from what they assume should be quick profits. This buzz usually dies down after a short while.

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April 16, 2024, 12:00:44 PM
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Not sure if it's the same for others, but the conversations being had just seem generally less stimulating than they used to.  Perhaps, after having been here for 10 years, many of the topics being discussed are getting a little stale for me. 

It's also disheartening that there doesn't seem to be the same level of respect for privacy and freedom that there once was.  It seems like many forum users now believe that everyone else's business is somehow their business too.  People also seem to think they can tell others what they can or can't do with their own funds.  I honestly don't know how to relate to these people.  It's as though they just arrived from another planet and don't understand the local customs and traditions.

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April 16, 2024, 12:17:24 PM
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Those users that usually spam the forum with bunch of post above their average post just to get the campaign bonus is the main culprit why the post count decline.

Most of the previous campaign including mixers and Stake usually reward their members that contributed more(huge post quantity). Right now, most of the campaign doesn’t have this bonus system while Stake adjust their post quota that contributes a lot on the decline of post count.

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April 16, 2024, 12:21:36 PM
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Maybe sig spammers and acc farmers were necessary evils? Maybe theymos should remove the merit system… Maybe we should go back to our roots from 2017?

Maybe it is already too late.

sig spammers and acc farmers also enabled forum detectives like lauda. Her work created lots of forum drama and that created a massive chain reaction of posts that had its own infinite fuel source


Reading her stuff was fun and interesting.

I recently discovered the stuff with figmentofmyass and it was amazing. I didn’t know that he had multiple accs in chipmixer. I just read it and daym. Just daym. Dude was playing poker against himself wtf

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April 16, 2024, 03:42:38 PM
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1. Lack of merit* > users hard to rank up > demotivated > users leave the forum.
Lol you serious? Its so easy to rank up now that even shitposters are reaching higher ranks.


Stop of campaigns that pay per posts like Chip Mixer and other mixers are main reasons if I am not wrong.
Decline in the amount of posts started years before mixers ban so I don't think that affected it as much as people think. By the way, there are still plenty of campaigns that pay per posts, its just that weekly cap/payrate is lower.


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April 16, 2024, 03:43:50 PM
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Not gonna lie, I'm getting bored of this forum.

Censorship (mixers), prominent members (or as I thought) turning out to be dickheads, can't see myself reading anything other than my local board (so much unnatural and boring content elsewhere). At one point I can see myself just leaving.

That would be sad, but understandable.   You are one of the people I have had on my trust list since the start.  (Hope I'm not one of those dickheads lol)

Would you consider selling your website if you were to leave?  It's invaluable to forum users.

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April 16, 2024, 03:50:07 PM
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(Hope I'm not one of those dickheads lol)
You are not. Wink

Would you consider selling your website if you were to leave?  It's invaluable to forum users.
I have no plans to shutdown ninjastic.space or my telegram bot, both are prepaid and have enough balance for at least a couple more years. Even if I leave and the forum eventually breaks my stuff, I would probably fix it as long as it doesn't require me to rewrite the entire thing.

Worst case the archive will stay up for older posts in respect to those who link them on their posts.

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April 16, 2024, 04:38:10 PM
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Not gonna lie, I'm getting bored of this forum.

Censorship (mixers), prominent members (or as I thought) turning out to be dickheads, can't see myself reading anything other than my local board (so much unnatural and boring content elsewhere). At one point I can see myself just leaving.
I kinda feel like this is what other early users went through in their time here. All the old OGs who helped make bitcoin and the forum what it is. Once the forum changed from what their view of it was, they left and went elsewhere.

It's sad to lose anyone who has done great things for the community. Hopefully something keeps your interest and keeps you around.

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April 16, 2024, 04:56:20 PM
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I came across the chart of the posts per day and month in ninjastics and was surprised that it has been falling for the last days /month  despite the halving of this year.
Is there a reason For this continuous fall in posts?
Halving? What has halving got to do with the drop in posts? The number of posts may even be higher after halving, I mean a year after it when people have already forgotten about it as a past cycle. The reason you seek is more than that and I believe it is about the low available campaigns and the time you checked it.

Well, I believe that most of the users here are posting for the benefits through campaigns, it might be discouraging if some could not join any campaign due to one reason or the other. They will have to wait and post a little or nothing until they join. Many campaigns demand a few participants, while some are being held or paused.

Also, what is happening on the forum at times is angering some people to quit or reduce their activities as the case may be. What will help is when there are enough campaigns that are active, a whole lot of participation will follow compared to the one you saw this time. And I am sure that these statistics can't be discouraging always, if you check it in a month's time, it might have improved significantly.

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Not sure if it's the same for others, but the conversations being had just seem generally less stimulating than they used to.  Perhaps, after having been here for 10 years, many of the topics being discussed are getting a little stale for me.  

It's also disheartening that there doesn't seem to be the same level of respect for privacy and freedom that there once was.  It seems like many forum users now believe that everyone else's business is somehow their business too.  People also seem to think they can tell others what they can or can't do with their own funds.  I honestly don't know how to relate to these people.  It's as though they just arrived from another planet and don't understand the local customs and traditions.
Yeah I felt same too but thought it was just me been busy.
The energy and determination to learn when I first came is already dying
Like see same thing everyday
Nothing is really new just recycled except few times when something hit the market like ordinals.


Halving? What has halving got to do with the drop in posts? The number of posts may even be higher after halving, I mean a year after it when people have already forgotten about it as a past cycle. The reason you seek is more than that and I believe it is about the low available campaigns and the time you checked it.

I hope this doesn't come out harsh but read a post well before replying.
I said despite the halving, meaning I expected the post count to increase as the halving date approach
But I guess since its nothing new many ain't interested.

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April 17, 2024, 08:47:15 AM
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C'monnn man, what are you talking about?? I've read through several mega threadslike this one   and I've observed that it has a whole number of people that left the forum before [when you could make a hundreds of thousands of incoherent post and rank up like wild fire], in-between and after the merit system was adopted. Having these delusions in your mind is  definitely gonna make nothing outta you!
Are you serious? Hal Finney was phenomenal, same like Satoshi. Popular people definitely will always be remembered.

We're talking about merit, is merit for popular people or good quality post without need to know which one is the sender?

Lol you serious? Its so easy to rank up now that even shitposters are reaching higher ranks.
Obviously shitposters are easy to rank up because you're talking about people I referred i.e. helped by locals community or gangs.

Check the merit history on top 10 Member ranks (exclude exch) all of them are from locals

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April 17, 2024, 01:29:54 PM
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Maybe sig spammers and acc farmers were necessary evils? Maybe theymos should remove the merit system… Maybe we should go back to our roots from 2017?
The forum has improved a lot for us to go back to 2017 we are better now compared to 2017 when there was massive spam and so many created farm accounts because they could easily rank it based on their activity and posts

The forum improved because members need to create good and meaningful posts if there are no merits imagine all these newbies in the bounty section ranking up without contribution to the forum but only submission reports.
We can improve but going back to the past will only harm the forum.


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Censorship (mixers), prominent members (or as I thought) turning out to be dickheads, can't see myself reading anything other than my local board (so much unnatural and boring content elsewhere). At one point I can see myself just leaving.
C'monnnn..!!! What's happening?? The forum isn't getting anymore traffic like it used to;1miau declared himself inactive and that the case for several weeks, then you? ... everyone feels bored at some point - ain't gon' lie, I do - but if everyone feels the same way and decides to leave, isn't this gonna be named a haven for spontaneous shit posting?
Lol you serious? Its so easy to rank up now that even shitposters are reaching higher ranks.
Do you seriously wanna argue with him? [especially on this issue]? I'd only say the same thing in a different context.

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I kinda feel like this is what other early users went through in their time here. All the old OGs who helped make bitcoin and the forum what it is. Once the forum changed from what their view of it was, they left and went elsewhere.
As humans the past tends to hold a deep sentimental value to us, so things will always look better in retrospect than when we were living in that reality. This is not saying that those who feel the forum has lost its spark are wrong, no not at all. It's just an observation of how we naturally cherish memories.

We have lost many members down the road, we've gained some great ones too, but we seem to be losing faster than we get.

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Aside from the censorship of the bitcoin mixer here in Bitcointalk, some of the members have "teleported" to Altcointalk. This means existing users here might decrease their posts here in Bitcointalk because they are also posting on Altcointalk. This "teleported" option by altcointalk could indeed lead to a decrease in posts here in Bitcointalk as users split their activity between altcointalk and bitcointalk. Well but the reason behind some user teleported to bitcointalk is because of banning bitcoin mixer here in Bitcointalk.

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Censorship
It's increasing all the time... and I am just waiting to see what is going to be next on the line to be censored, probably something related with privacy again.

prominent members (or as I thought) turning out to be dickheads, can't see myself reading anything other than my local board (so much unnatural and boring content elsewhere). At one point I can see myself just leaving.
I do agree with you on many things you said, but don't give up just yet.
You contributed forum a lot with your projects like Ninjastic.space website and telegram bot, and this place will became worse if you leave now.
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Do you seriously wanna argue with him? [especially on this issue]? I'd only say the same thing in a different context.
Just coulnd't ignore that nonsense that lack of merit caused decrease if the forum activity.  Cheesy


Obviously shitposters are easy to rank up because you're talking about people I referred i.e. helped by locals community or gangs.
And how those local members got merit in the first place? Because there's shit load of it going around and not enough good posts.

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