Post per day/ per month falling.

[robelneo]

When I launched https://bpip.org, there were over 300,000 active members. Now there are 57,000.  That prob has a lot to do with it.

But what is the cause of this ? The forum owners should be interested in identifying the possible causes and taking remedial measures. Like suppose, the search engine rankings are affected, there should be SEO done to attract more new active members on the forum from time to time.

Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency were gaining a lot of boasts, that was when many great projects were coming in, so many free coins from airdrops and you only needed to join Bitcointalk and post your usernames.
The forum is still doing great we have a saying that the wine tastes better as it ages, forum still gets massive traffic because they are on top of the many keywords related to Bitcoin-related.
Some keywords can be found here in Bitcointalk, I don't think Bitcointalk will lose its authority and they get more as time goes on.

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[Casdinyard]

Thing is this is expected. The whole site is dated and besides the OGs like me and those that are looking to make a living out of this forum, there's not much people on the net that would want to visit the droll white and blue bitcoin forum site anymore. But even if that weren't the case, we also have to understand that there are just even more reliable sources of information on the web right now when it comes to crypto. Reputable crypto influencers and analysts who knows their shit and are willing to impart their knowledges to the users, with ease of access too cause users can just get back to watching their shit without a shitposter obscuring the flow of info, among other reasons, that causes people to just lose confidence in this site altogether.

Plus there are quite a number of people in here that are appalled by the recent changes in the forum, particularly with the banning of mixers. Where a good amount of people here who have been in mixer campaigns switched to altcointalks or other sites to chase that bread.

[philipma1957]

Halving being nearby has nothing to do with the number of posts people make in a day. There might be a thread about it, but I don't think it's enough to keep the number of monthly and daily posts of all members increasing.

I think he is referring to bitcoin price that went up and halving can further push the price up. There have been more traffic on this forum when bitcoin price increased in the past.

Stop of campaigns that pay per posts like Chip Mixer and other mixers are main reasons if I am not wrong.

Chipmixer has been banned which opened ways to other mixers on this forum and the competition was high among them. They pay more than other campaigns. The mixers are even paying for avatar campaign also. This encourage more people to join campaign and post. Mixers campaign ban on this forum is the reason.

The forum has allowed millions of dollars in signature income to be earned.

The income went down and the signatures went down.

Not very complicated .  Just look and see how may posts went to altcoinstalks.com.  Their post grew a lot. in the last 4 months.

[Lucius]

The forum has allowed millions of dollars in signature income to be earned.
The income went down and the signatures went down.
Not very complicated .  Just look and see how may posts went to altcoinstalks.com.  Their post grew a lot. in the last 4 months.

It's true that some members (including me) became active on another forum, but that doesn't mean we stopped being active here. My number of posts on BTT mostly remained the same, and as far as I can see, most of those who are active on other forum are also active here. In addition, the number of active sig campaigns on other forum is far less than BTT.

[Amphenomenon]

The forum has allowed millions of dollars in signature income to be earned.
The income went down and the signatures went down.
Not very complicated .  Just look and see how may posts went to altcoinstalks.com.  Their post grew a lot. in the last 4 months.

It's true that some members (including me) became active on another forum, but that doesn't mean we stopped being active here. My number of posts on BTT mostly remained the same, and as far as I can see, most of those who are active on other forum are also active here. In addition, the number of active sig campaigns on other forum is far less than BTT.

Yes this is true and while there are also members here who have moved to altcoinstalks and still yet are able to keep up to their posts counts here just like before, we can also agree that some have not been able to do the same.

Though they probably may be having many more registered accounts sooner or later than BTT as the traffic there grows since it's much easier to rank up there and also getting reputation because the forum is still growing, which is an advantage for getting picked in a campaign. Also as the traffic grows the pay will likely increase aside from the fact that mixers campaign pays more than any other campaigns while altcoinstalks is not just limited to mixers campaign, others  will definitely come and try.

[dkbit98]

You never know whether more merit would attract more people in your local board. Few years ago Croatian board got few new merit sources (after being one of the least merited boards) and it didn't really help us much when it coesm to activity as it keeps decreasing, even though we (probably) have more merit available than ever before.

That is true, but I think we lost some quality members in last few years and that affected activity and number of posts in our local board.
However, there are few new members that appeared also like SirJohn, Luno-something and few others that contribute more with quality than quantity.
 

[Rikafip]

That is true, but I think we lost some quality members in last few years and that affected activity and number of posts in our local board.
However, there are few new members that appeared also like SirJohn, Luno-something and few others that contribute more with quality than quantity.

True, any local board would feel loosing few core members, let alone local board of our size but luckily few more appeared that are helping us keeping decent activity.

Speaking of activity, I am just finishing monthly overview of the local boards activity (It should be released tomorrow) and you will be glad to hear that our numbers for the last month are the best in the last year or so. 

[_BlackStar]

Ninjastic.space recorded 2,644,742 posts made by all active users throughout 2022 - but unfortunately, I don't know how many posters there were throughout that year. In 2023 - the number of posts drops to 1,887,184, also I can't find out how many active users that year. Then as of April 23 2024 - there were 562,194 created by 14168 users, of course this shows a significant decrease.

I don't know what the exact cause is - but several reasons have been mentioned by users before me. The number of active users is one important reason that correlates to the number of posts made throughout the year - but it is not the only one.

[Lucius]

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Though they probably may be having many more registered accounts sooner or later than BTT as the traffic there grows since it's much easier to rank up there and also getting reputation because the forum is still growing, which is an advantage for getting picked in a campaign. Also as the traffic grows the pay will likely increase aside from the fact that mixers campaign pays more than any other campaigns while altcoinstalks is not just limited to mixers campaign, others  will definitely come and try.

Registered accounts don't make much sense if we take into account the number of quality members on both forums. Regardless of members who "teleported" to another forum and members who have been there before, I think that BTT is still far ahead when it comes to the number of quality members, and therefore the content they create.

The pay rates on the other forum are still almost half as much as here, and at the moment I don't see that there will be any big increase - because top mixers used to pay $200 + per week for 30-35 posts on BTT, and now they pay about $50 for the same number of posts on another forum. If they could raise it to at least $100+ per week, I'm sure they would attract more quality members from this forum.

[Synchronice]

When I launched https://bpip.org, there were over 300,000 active members. Now there are 57,000.  That prob has a lot to do with it.

But what is the cause of this ? The forum owners should be interested in identifying the possible causes and taking remedial measures. Like suppose, the search engine rankings are affected, there should be SEO done to attract more new active members on the forum from time to time.

The forum owner should be interested in identifying the problems and creating a better, attractive environment for newbies but for some reasons, he doesn't care (pardon but that's truth). But there are many good members that try to create different beneficial tools, like bpip.org, merit bot, post archive and so on.

If post per day or per month is falling, that's not a huge tragic. I always prefer quality over quantity, I hope that quality doesn't decline with it. If bounties and ICOs were driving this forum, then it might be a good idea to create an NFT board additionally. Now this is the trend (but we will attract spam, not quality).

[philipma1957]

The forum has allowed millions of dollars in signature income to be earned.
The income went down and the signatures went down.
Not very complicated .  Just look and see how may posts went to altcoinstalks.com.  Their post grew a lot. in the last 4 months.

It's true that some members (including me) became active on another forum, but that doesn't mean we stopped being active here. My number of posts on BTT mostly remained the same, and as far as I can see, most of those who are active on other forum are also active here. In addition, the number of active sig campaigns on other forum is far less than BTT.

Well I do two signatures. One here and one on altcoinstalks

I post like mad because thats what I do.

I likely now am posting 15-20 posts a day on the two websites.

But I always did just a signature. When I did do a campaign.

Think of a quality signature thief.

When mixers were good he or she may have had 5 mixers with 5 alts making $750 a week.

If you really ran signature farms well and made 750-1500 a week.

You are far less likely to switch all of that to altcointalks as the mixers will pay about 40 and account

or 200-400 a week.

So I think some major signature farms are gone. This would drop us way down in posts.

I am lazy and a lot of info on the old mixer threads was stripped so researching exactly how many mixker signature posts existed here and how many move to altcointalks is too much work for me to do.

But getting paid 40 a week vs 150 a week for a cheater with 10 accounts

means 400 vs 1500 a week . So some may have just dropped off. From bitcointalk.

Also youtube has a ton of influencers doing all kinds of videos.

while they can be full of shit often they also have some good videos.

we do not do embedded videos. this hurts us a lot.


I look at youtube videos 2-4 hours a week ones on mining and gear. when I do that I am not posting here.

[Amphenomenon]

Registered accounts don't make much sense if we take into account the number of quality members on both forums. Regardless of members who "teleported" to another forum and members who have been there before, I think that BTT is still far ahead when it comes to the number of quality members, and therefore the content they create.

Yes but with time they maybe having the same traffic as BTT, though I will have to agree that before this will happen their content quality have to improve but this is from the fact that before mixers move there, they were having little or no traffic, since we can see there that most thread posted there for years just recently got reply which some are mainly from the teleported members from here. Also majority of the teleported members from here has  really been influencing other members at altcoinstalks to improve their post quality and it will bring more traffic in the long run.

The pay rates on the other forum are still almost half as much as here, and at the moment I don't see that there will be any big increase - because top mixers used to pay $200 + per week for 30-35 posts on BTT, and now they pay about $50 for the same number of posts on another forum. If they could raise it to at least $100+ per week, I'm sure they would attract more quality members from this forum.

Hmm I guessed they increasing the pay will also bring more traffic since it will not just attract quality posters here but improve post quality generally. I usually thought if the traffic increases the pay will increase but I now can see that the pay influences the traffic even more.

Well I do two signatures. One here and one on altcoinstalks

I post like mad because thats what I do.

I likely now am posting 15-20 posts a day on the two

You have always been the beast in posting except against ChartBuddy lol, I still remember how many times joker_josue tried to catch up with you, when both of you were still in same campaign.

But I always did just a signature. When I did do a campaign.

Think of a quality signature thief.

When mixers were good he or she may have had 5 mixers with 5 alts making $750 a week.

If you really ran signature farms well and made 750-1500 a week.

You are far less likely to switch all of that to altcointalks as the mixers will pay about 40 and account

or 200-400 a week.

So I think some major signature farms are gone. This would drop us way down in posts.

Aside this fact another thing that limits this is from the fact that Altcoinstalks is centralize and the admin will not hold back in flagging such accounts.

I am lazy and a lot of info on the old mixer threads was stripped so researching exactly how many mixker signature posts existed here and how many move to altcointalks is too much work for me to do.

I could only find a thread about this at altcoinstalks, containing both mixers info of this at ALT and BTT LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅

But getting paid 40 a week vs 150 a week for a cheater with 10 accounts

means 400 vs 1500 a week . So some may have just dropped off. From bitcointalk.

This will be a total turn off and after the mixer banned things really became difficult here for them, I guessed that's why there where quite more threads about account selling and buying here this year.

[philipma1957]

Well I do two signatures. One here and one on altcoinstalks

I post like mad because thats what I do.

I likely now am posting 15-20 posts a day on the two

You have always been the beast in posting except against ChartBuddy lol, I still remember how many times joker_josue tried to catch up with you, when both of you were still in same campaign.

But I always did just a signature. When I did do a campaign.

Think of a quality signature thief.

When mixers were good he or she may have had 5 mixers with 5 alts making $750 a week.

If you really ran signature farms well and made 750-1500 a week.

You are far less likely to switch all of that to altcointalks as the mixers will pay about 40 and account

or 200-400 a week.

So I think some major signature farms are gone. This would drop us way down in posts.

Aside this fact another thing that limits this is from the fact that Altcoinstalks is centralize and the admin will not hold back in flagging such accounts.

I am lazy and a lot of info on the old mixer threads was stripped so researching exactly how many mixker signature posts existed here and how many move to altcointalks is too much work for me to do.

I could only find a thread about this at altcoinstalks, containing both mixers info of this at ALT and BTT LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅

But getting paid 40 a week vs 150 a week for a cheater with 10 accounts

means 400 vs 1500 a week . So some may have just dropped off. From bitcointalk.

This will be a total turn off and after the mixer banned things really became difficult here for them, I guessed that's why there where quite more threads about account selling and buying here this year.

But bitcointalk is usa based and I am sure the forum is not looking for this

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/04/24/samourai-wallet-founders-arrested-and-charged-with-money-laundering/

"Samourai Wallet Founders Arrested and Charged With Money Laundering"



There are problems with mixing

 does a terror supporter use it?

does a guy just want to pay for an item and not reveal his wallet totals?

First case is a good reason to bust mixers.
second case is not a good reason to bust mixers.


It is a shame the forum members have lost such a good income source.

I earn less now posting on two sites then when I posted on one site.

[Ultegra134]

Thing is this is expected. The whole site is dated and besides the OGs like me and those that are looking to make a living out of this forum, there's not much people on the net that would want to visit the droll white and blue bitcoin forum site anymore. But even if that weren't the case, we also have to understand that there are just even more reliable sources of information on the web right now when it comes to crypto. Reputable crypto influencers and analysts who knows their shit and are willing to impart their knowledges to the users, with ease of access too cause users can just get back to watching their shit without a shitposter obscuring the flow of info, among other reasons, that causes people to just lose confidence in this site altogether.

Plus there are quite a number of people in here that are appalled by the recent changes in the forum, particularly with the banning of mixers. Where a good amount of people here who have been in mixer campaigns switched to altcointalks or other sites to chase that bread.

Well, all forums are generally outdated; it's not just Bitcointalk; the user interface is likely to be the least to blame. People want more interactive content, such as videos and short reels, while the rise of social media has created a large number of pages and groups regarding pretty much every subject you can imagine, from cryptocurrencies to investments to car-related pages, all of which someday had their own forum. The mixer situation certainly impacted the forum; however, I don't think there's a large number of people who moved to the other forum; the majority are active on both simultaneously. However, that has allowed AltcoinTalks to grow tremendously compared to what it was six months ago; I didn't even acknowledge that such a forum existed.

[bitcoin_mining]

If you post less on the next day than the previous day, it's normal for your post count to show less on the chart. If you post five posts every day, then this chart will remain unchanged, but if you post five posts six days a week, the chart will look random if you post more than five posts or less posts one day. You need to post consistently to keep the charts steady.

[dkbit98]

Speaking of activity, I am just finishing monthly overview of the local boards activity (It should be released tomorrow) and you will be glad to hear that our numbers for the last month are the best in the last year or so. 

Best in what way exactly? Number of posts increased or they became better people and complained less than usual?
Even without checking I can be sure that our local king and gambling expert is still the same on top of his throne.

[JollyGood]

I cannot state either way about the number of account farms that operate and how many have multiple accounts enrolled but I hope campaign managers stay vigilant against abuse.

If there was any real way to get factual data surrounding the number of account farms that exist and how many of those accounts were enrolled in campaigns pre-mixer ban (compared with today), would be interesting. If one puppeteer is operating 5 accounts at the rates you stated they would be very happy. With the exclusion of mixers, they will have to step up their game if they want to remain relevant and try to join as many campaigns as possible without getting caught out.

Think of a quality signature thief.

When mixers were good he or she may have had 5 mixers with 5 alts making $750 a week.

If you really ran signature farms well and made 750-1500 a week.

You are far less likely to switch all of that to altcointalks as the mixers will pay about 40 and account

or 200-400 a week.

So I think some major signature farms are gone. This would drop us way down in posts.

[Rikafip]

Best in what way exactly?

I think it was pretty obvious that I was referring to the number of posts when I wrote "that our numbers for the last month are the best in the last year or so". But I am sure that now there won't be any confusion.

I cannot state either way about the number of account farms that operate and how many have multiple accounts enrolled but I hope campaign managers stay vigilant against abuse.

Let me take a devil's advocate role for a second and ask if its even in the forum best interest to remove all those that are abusing campaign rules with their alts? Removing those means less activity on the forum which then may cause fewer campaigns which then may cause less overall activity etc.

[JollyGood]

I think you have a valid point here. If there was a day when alt-accounts and those enrolling in campaigns using their account farms were expelled from campaigns, there is a possibility they will stop posting here and it will affect the forum usage. Let us not forget that competitor forums are increasing there user base therefore it could (in the long term) put this forum in a precarious position.

Keeping all that in mind, any form of cheating, rule-breaking and abuse should be discouraged at every stage therefore I am glad I am not the one hiring and firing campaign participants.

I cannot state either way about the number of account farms that operate and how many have multiple accounts enrolled but I hope campaign managers stay vigilant against abuse.

Let me take a devil's advocate role for a second and ask if its even in the forum best interest to remove all those that are abusing campaign rules with their alts? Removing those means less activity on the forum which then may cause fewer campaigns which then may cause less overall activity etc.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I came across the chart of the posts per day and month in ninjastics and was surprised that it has been falling for the last days /month  despite the halving of this year.

Halving bring enthusiasm for Bitcoin and not posting on the forum, if there's anything we should be doing during that time is making our plans in preparation for the aftermath of the halving. Lets take a chill pill and look at things from a different point of observation because I know we're always quick to point fingers at some things that we feel are reasons for less activities on the forum but lets not forget that people have a life outside the forum and some times life outside might be the reason for the less activity on the forum.

People are suffering from different things that might make them to not be available for posting. I myself haven't been as active as I use to be because I'm having some life challenges and I believe others might be facing similar issues. When there's reductions in post activity it could be because of things like this and looking at some accounts that used to be very active on the forum are no more so obviously there has to be reduction in post quantity on the forum.

We too need to look at the fact that the bounty/signature campaigns aren't as motivating as they use to be to those that need it to get motivated to post on the forum and the other reasons that have been mentioned here that I don't have e to repeat are also contributing factors. But still we are having a very decent amount of engagement on the forum to keep it alive so I think we're good, the activity will.come back up later eventually.