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April 15, 2024, 11:00:10 PM
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It's amazing how one could start that kind of revolution in which  ETFs are being approved now everywhere. This is kind of advanced that ETH is also approved already because IIRC, it's not yet approved in the US SEC right?

I do hope this sparks more interest and has that increase that we want in volume.

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April 15, 2024, 11:01:00 PM
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Well seeing the market right now I don't think it has had that much of a positive impact, granted we did see the last ETF only affecting the market months after. Still, I don't think it's going to have that big of an effect as compared to the first one, just the matter that it's not the first can be enough of a factor imo. It also doesn't help that I don't think this had any publicity to most people? At the very least, this is the first time I've heard of its plans.

Might still help with its gradual growth though in the long run.

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April 16, 2024, 09:35:08 AM
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This is one of those news that could increase the motivations of most bitcoin holders, most especially those that have witnessed the last weekend market bloodbath, I believe this news will trigger a more positive market outlooks and increase investors appetite to keep the price up before the bitcoin halving event which is around the corner, Hong Kong ETF approval is one big News for the market following the first January ETF approval that triggered the recent multiple all-time highs.
I will also say it is a good news. Bitcoin dropped below $60000 as the tension between Isreal and Iran increases when Iran sent over 3000 missiles and attacking drones to Israel, but I read that bitcoin price started to increase immediately after the news of bitcoin ETF approval in Hong Kong. Yes it is a good news.

What is bad is that China is somehow getting back into the game, and considering its attitudes towards everything that is decentralized, the only question is when it will start attacking Bitcoin again. No matter how you turn it, Bitcoin and communism cannot co-exist together, so in the long term I see only problems in these decisions, of course only if these ETFs are successful in attracting investors.
If China crackdown is coming again, but which is actually not a crackdown as bitcoin price continue to increase after short decrease of price, let us expect it to be during bull run. Bitcoin price may fall in short time but later increase and get to all-time-high as it happened in 2021. But bitcoin can still be legally owned in China as of today.

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April 16, 2024, 09:45:26 AM
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Great.

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April 16, 2024, 10:07:42 AM
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I think this ETF approval in HK will mean a "back door" for Chinese investors to get into a
Bitcoin ETF and China is the largest financial market after the US. If the Chinese can tap
into the HK ETF's it could mean big buying for Bitcoin.
There is nothing more vague in the crypto industry than China's crypto ban, so many times mainland China has placed one ban or the other on crypto, or crypto services; i don't think it is so clear what people can or can't do with crypto in China, but i know it is not a complete ban. Mining and ico's are banned and crypto is also not allowed as a legal tender in China, but i believe people in China are allowed to buy and store crypto, and they still do. If they want to buy BTC through an etf, then Hong Kong spot etf is an option.
This doesn't show any sign of positivity of the approval on the market outlooks, and that call for concerns.
Like most have already said in this topic, do not expect this to be as big as the spot etf approval in the U.S. However, this approval happened around the same time people were spreading fud about BTC due to airstrikes by Iran on Israel, and this has led a lot of weak hands to dump their BTC's.

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April 16, 2024, 11:01:01 AM
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China has been an anti-crypto for a very long time already and they approved an ETF on HongKong which is basically owned by China. Cheesy Look at the irony.
Well, it seems like this news has no positive effect towards the price of Bitcoin as it tumbles down further the day when this news was launched.

I don't know the reason why they approved it aside from the fact that they see the positive effect of Spot Bitcoin ETF's in US hence, they want to do the same as well. Spot Ethereum ETF is already accepted on HK. A few months from now, it will be the US who will accept it as well. This will have a long term effect towards the price of Bitcoin, and can we expect more countries doing the same as well? Hmmm.

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April 16, 2024, 01:45:49 PM
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China has been an anti-crypto for a very long time already and they approved an ETF on HongKong which is basically owned by China. Cheesy Look at the irony.
Well, it seems like this news has no positive effect towards the price of Bitcoin as it tumbles down further the day when this news was launched.

If I remember correctly, when the ETF in the US was approved, bitcoin did not increase in price immediately after and disappointed many people. But after a while, bitcoin grew strongly and even created a new ATH. It can be seen that the market needs time to absorb news and news like this also takes time to positively impact the market. We cannot expect that everything will react immediately.


I don't know the reason why they approved it aside from the fact that they see the positive effect of Spot Bitcoin ETF's in US hence, they want to do the same as well. Spot Ethereum ETF is already accepted on HK. A few months from now, it will be the US who will accept it as well. This will have a long term effect towards the price of Bitcoin, and can we expect more countries doing the same as well? Hmmm.

I think China is more afraid of being backward than the US and they need to adjust things so they don't fall behind in the cryptocurrency race. The 2 largest economies in the world have entered the cryptocurrency revolution, I think other countries will also soon start participating because no one wants to be left behind.

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April 16, 2024, 02:09:33 PM
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If I remember correctly, when the ETF in the US was approved, bitcoin did not increase in price immediately after and disappointed many people. But after a while, bitcoin grew strongly and even created a new ATH. It can be seen that the market needs time to absorb news and news like this also takes time to positively impact the market. We cannot expect that everything will react immediately.

Approval does not mean automatic trading, and it is known that trading will only start in about 2 weeks, so obviously the news in itself does not (so far) have any positive effect on the price.

I think China is more afraid of being backward than the US and they need to adjust things so they don't fall behind in the cryptocurrency race. The 2 largest economies in the world have entered the cryptocurrency revolution, I think other countries will also soon start participating because no one wants to be left behind.

Do people still think that China needs cryptocurrencies and wants to compete with the US or anyone else in any way? It is true that people who have been exposed to communist ideas for a long time are a bit lost in space and time, but would the communist party be so stupid as to first ban the trading and mining of cryptocurrencies, and now want to get back into the game?

China's economy is so huge that if 100% BTC mining took place in that country and all CEXs were there, all that profit would be just dust in their annual GDP.

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April 16, 2024, 02:15:23 PM
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Approval does not mean automatic trading, and it is known that trading will only start in about 2 weeks, so obviously the news in itself does not (so far) have any positive effect on the price.
Companies need to train their staffs and some companies have their own rules to wait for a while before starting to advertise and sell their products. Even companies want to sell their products immediately, not all investors are ready to buy.

Approvals are good but need time to show effect on price, just like halving will need time like some months to create scarce feeling among investors and positive effect on price.

"Rome wasn't built in a day" and no magical things can help Bitcoin to have positive effect on price too quickly. It can be pumped but to maintain a new high price sustainably, it needs time. Quick pump then quick dump but with Bitcoin, we have long term bullish price growth and only short term and mid term corrections or bear market.

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Approval does not mean automatic trading, and it is known that trading will only start in about 2 weeks, so obviously the news in itself does not (so far) have any positive effect on the price.
I dare say the news of an ETF approval will normally have had a positive effect on the price before it begins trading officially. Trader sentiments goes a long way in determining how the market acts, if that's positive the charts will follow same line.
Could be that the expectations around ETF has work off a bit, regular traders don't really know how it works or plan to use it, but see the topics everywhere so assume it's useful.

Significant amount of money has already moved into Bitcoin ETFs that were approved previously, subsequent approvals will not have the same effect on price.

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April 16, 2024, 02:50:15 PM
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I do hope this sparks more interest and has that increase that we want in volume.
I don't think it automatically reflect with the price to instantaneously surge above what it's and maybe, this may only reflects after we might experienced the halving. But wait a bit, how does this looks like?
China acts as an anti-cryptocurrency now the Hong Kong Approving their first Bitcoin ETF. Does it mean China is afraid to come openly to announced it for themselves than Hong kong doing it since both country are more likely the same. I think they realized their mistakes and for banning cryptocurrencies.

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This will probably be good for the price of BTC if the interest in this kind of investing in BTC is approximately the same as in the US - although it is possible that this ETF will be as successful as some others in other parts of the world where investors have not shown much interest in such a way of investing.

What is bad is that China is somehow getting back into the game, and considering its attitudes towards everything that is decentralized, the only question is when it will start attacking Bitcoin again. No matter how you turn it, Bitcoin and communism cannot co-exist together, so in the long term I see only problems in these decisions, of course only if these ETFs are successful in attracting investors.
I am not worried if China is going to get back to the game of sending the entire market with some news about bans and what not because we've heard that for so long. But this is for sure going to make the new investors worry if ever they see it for the first time the "ban" of Bitcoin on them although we all knew that it's not a new thing anymore. But Hong Kong as a special administrative region of China, they function as an independent region just like any country.

Approval in Hong Kong doesn't mean future countrywide approval in China (because Hong Kong is a special administrative region), but it's still good news. It just shows that Bitcoin is becoming more reputable as an investment, and perhaps we'll see some other places follow suit.
You're right, while Hong Kong is also a haven for many businessmen and investors, this really is a sign that they can no longer ignore Bitcoin. There were news about Singapore having some application as well but they were declined but it will be bigger I guess if it's going to be from them.

At least we have good news amid global unrest, high transaction fees and a drop in Bitcoin price. Hong Kong is ranked 43rd on the list of major economies of the world. And it's stock market is ranked 4th in Asia and the 7th biggest globally. Other smaller nations around the sub-region might consider taking the same move.
Yeah, this is what we get despite all of the current ugly things that we're seeing in this world. Mainly, the high fees for transactions although it is starting to get calm but still, fluctuating and unstable and then there goes another startled war.

I believe the price will rise gradually, like what happened with US etf
It did but, it corrected quickly.

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That's good news, it will bring more investors and more funds into the BTC M.cap directly or indirectly. Now I am waiting for China to do something about it, as the USA is imposing tax, and the IMF asked our country to impose tax as well, so I assume China will also make some positive move now if they really make some positive move, then we are seeing BTC crossing $150k easily.

Besides I don't think this news it the main reason behind BTC recovery, as this news has been out since afternoon (on my side) as I saw the news when it was out like within minutes, and the market had already recovered from the dip (ATL) so I assume this is not the main reason but it would have helped BTC to recover more than expected. But still I am expecting a correction to $64k But let's hope for good. Which it already did.
China has a different approach although the big mining farms are found there but they seem to be quiet for how many years after the news about ban has appeared once again. And speaking of correction, now we're back to $62k and this seems to be the support and I hope that it really is.

Since I saw this thread, I have hard the option to search out more and to also analysed the impact of the Hong Kong ETF approval on the price of bitcoin, because despite the news, the market still remains at it down trend movement still because at the moment, bitcoin is below 65k dollar, somewhere around between 62k-$63k respectfully.

This doesn't show any sign of positivity of the approval on the market outlooks, and that call for concerns.
It went to $66k when this news came but in less than 24 hours, we're back in the dip. I'm not going to look at the most recent effect of this, best effect of this is for the long term.

Crypto is not well-accepted in mainland china (read: banned) so it is nice to see that other countries are taking the step forward to accepting crypto specifically bitcoin.

This is definitely good news for crypto enthusiasts in hongkong and bitcoin investors because this means the price of bitcoin will continue to rise as more buyers are getting access to bitcoin.
Hong Kong is a SAR of China and it's like an independent country although still under China. But it has its own decision to something like this that they can't meddle so, it's a good news despite they've got connection to China.

It's amazing how one could start that kind of revolution in which  ETFs are being approved now everywhere. This is kind of advanced that ETH is also approved already because IIRC, it's not yet approved in the US SEC right?

I do hope this sparks more interest and has that increase that we want in volume.
Yeah, it's not yet approved on the US and unlikely going to approved IMO but this could be a good hint for it if Hong Kong was able to approve it.

Well seeing the market right now I don't think it has had that much of a positive impact, granted we did see the last ETF only affecting the market months after. Still, I don't think it's going to have that big of an effect as compared to the first one, just the matter that it's not the first can be enough of a factor imo. It also doesn't help that I don't think this had any publicity to most people? At the very least, this is the first time I've heard of its plans.

Might still help with its gradual growth though in the long run.
It did had a good impact if it's just a one-day effect but it's not all about that. We shouldn't look at the after-effect of it just after the approval came. There's actually more to that and the impact of it is going to be more beautiful in the long run.

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I don't drink though but you can celebrate now if you're able to buy the dips. Cheers.

China has been an anti-crypto for a very long time already and they approved an ETF on HongKong which is basically owned by China. Cheesy Look at the irony.
Well, it seems like this news has no positive effect towards the price of Bitcoin as it tumbles down further the day when this news was launched.

I don't know the reason why they approved it aside from the fact that they see the positive effect of Spot Bitcoin ETF's in US hence, they want to do the same as well. Spot Ethereum ETF is already accepted on HK. A few months from now, it will be the US who will accept it as well. This will have a long term effect towards the price of Bitcoin, and can we expect more countries doing the same as well? Hmmm.
While Hong Kong is a SAR, I don't think that with this kind of affairs China has a say on it. But let's not look at that quick impact that the news gets. Although I think that I've got an idea on why they've approved it and that's still has something to do with their covid recovery plan about having more investors, investments and make their tourism healthy again. Yes, they're on the sort of recovery and that might still be part of the actual plan before and it's just going into fruition.

Whoa! Big moves in the crypto world! 🚀 Exciting times ahead with ETH ETF approval too! 🎉
Crossing fingers but mainly for Bitcoin, there's more and the best is yet to come.

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April 16, 2024, 04:00:24 PM
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This will probably be good for the price of BTC if the interest in this kind of investing in BTC is approximately the same as in the US - although it is possible that this ETF will be as successful as some others in other parts of the world where investors have not shown much interest in such a way of investing.

What is bad is that China is somehow getting back into the game, and considering its attitudes towards everything that is decentralized, the only question is when it will start attacking Bitcoin again. No matter how you turn it, Bitcoin and communism cannot co-exist together, so in the long term I see only problems in these decisions, of course only if these ETFs are successful in attracting investors.

I believe that they will support Bitcoin exclusively via ETF, which is where the state can continue to control... it will be prohibited to acquire or trade native bitcoin, but they will allow it to be used as an asset purchased legally on stock exchanges, I think in The future will be this way they will do it.

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April 16, 2024, 04:10:22 PM
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Currently, the related link source I checked publish yesterday on not right moment after war issues between Iran and Israel make bitcoin get crash drastically. I think have difference viewed if Bitcoin ETF approved in Hong Kong before war happening between Iran and Israel with potential bitcoin will raise more higher price, its keep good news for bitcoin after SEC ETF approving now Hongkong allowing to make bitcoin get approval.
I think there are not instant effect with Bitcoin ETF approved in Hongkong such as when SEC approving bitcoin last two months need more longer time for bitcoin get positive impact raising to higher price, seems one or two week later with potential positive effect after Bitcoin ETF approving in Hongkong will make price pump drastically.

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April 16, 2024, 08:49:27 PM
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Hong Kong is simply hoping to outshine Blackrock by getting on board just in time to ride Bitcoin wave. Just in too Landesbank Baden-Württemberg (LBBW), which is Germany's largest federal bank in my own opinion wants to test the crypto waters as it has been reported that they have a plan to start offering customers crypto custody services and sooner than we think, they will for a spot Bitcoin ETF. When all these happens and other big institutional investors enter the market, I don't know if there still be any bitcoin left for the others who want to but the real bitcoin.

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April 16, 2024, 09:08:00 PM
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I have heard this news too, but Bitcoin and Ethereum do not seem to be reacting to this news. There weren't any significant movements at all, even though this is big news. I don't see any valid reason why Bitcoin is dipping now after the Israel attack. I think the war is not going to continue with Iran, so the market should become normal again. Besides, Hong Kong ETF approval is big news for the Bitcoin community, but we can't realise any impact. I think it would take sometimes, like US ETF, if it wasn't pumped instantly and started pumping after a few days. 

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April 16, 2024, 09:38:16 PM
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China has a different approach although the big mining farms are found there but they seem to be quiet for how many years after the news about ban has appeared once again. And speaking of correction, now we're back to $62k and this seems to be the support and I hope that it really is.
You are right, China has a different approach and I am trying to understand it so we can also prepare, as they might not be planning to make money in a bull, as they might have plans for the bear market which is also considerable for us and should be. Besides they are not quite as crypto is not illegal it's just not legal there. Which have some differences. As there are no strict rules against crypto users. Chinese are still using them. Actually the most of the volume on Binance came directly from China. I was shocked after hearing this news.

And yeah speaking of correction, actually when I was writing the post, I did not notice the price is already crossed my assumption, I have to edit it quickly after posting the post, I guess I edit it before or maybe after not so sure. But still market is highly unpredictable at the moment, but I doubt it will go below $60k. I have my limits there. But still I will wait as I was expecting it before and after halving. Let's hop it will not go down more.

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April 16, 2024, 09:55:39 PM
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It's amazing how one could start that kind of revolution in which  ETFs are being approved now everywhere. This is kind of advanced that ETH is also approved already because IIRC, it's not yet approved in the US SEC right?

I do hope this sparks more interest and has that increase that we want in volume.
The rapid approval of Bitcoin ETFs in Hong Kong is very good news. However, the market did not rise much after this news was released because Bitcoin was dumped after the news was released and one of the reasons for the dumping was the bombings in the war. The news did not boost the market much due to the war bombings with Israel and Iran, causing the market to drop significantly. Still, the market rose slightly. Anyway, great news. I expect this kind of news to push the price of Bitcoin further.

The steps taken by Hong Kong I think this step can open up new opportunities for investors and create hope among investors. Let's go ahead and surely we will see the positive results of Bitcoin very soon.

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April 17, 2024, 08:59:37 PM
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With more ETF approval across Asia, the positive sentiment will rise. Analysts are predicting BTC might set a new all-time high because of this activity after the halving or near the end of the year. I am certainly all in on crypto and have invested heavily in a reputable crypto firm with a proprietary crypto trading bot that continues to rebalance my portfolio for maximum gains, keeping me a happy camper.
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I have heard this news too, but Bitcoin and Ethereum do not seem to be reacting to this news. There weren't any significant movements at all, even though this is big news. I don't see any valid reason why Bitcoin is dipping now after the Israel attack. I think the war is not going to continue with Iran, so the market should become normal again. Besides, Hong Kong ETF approval is big news for the Bitcoin community, but we can't realise any impact. I think it would take sometimes, like US ETF, if it wasn't pumped instantly and started pumping after a few days.
It's indeed a great news for Bitcoin ETF's being accepted in Hong Kong after much discussions. Hong Kong is a major player in the Asia's financial sector, Their approval of the ETF's will be a big influence.
The Bitcoin ETF is more of the investment that large pocket holders have been waiting for and with more investment, I wonder how high the price of BTC becomes.


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