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April 15, 2024, 07:16:40 PM
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Iran and Israel war has been trending since the weekend and it has caused lot of tensions not just within the concerned territories but insighting its possibilities of extension to other regions.

Right in, while Iranian government is celebrating that they have successfully hit Israel as a revenge, civilians whom are known to be defenceless and acknowledging that retaliation or war in general is never an option for a peaceful society are now living in the pool of fear and right as it is they are scampering to different places in taking cover measures Incase Israel decides to hit back.
Iranian government celebrates "revenge" strikes on Israel but civilians fear response


This should be an obvious note that the government engages on power tussles out of their political interests and no for the interests of their citizens else they would put some circumstances like this in considerations and just accept defeat without pulling a muscle if that would bring fortunes to their people and your slack to respond
would not mean that you are a weakly but having the welfares and orderliness of the masses as a prior and not engaging on the so supremacies where resources are termed a waste because wars does not bring any good returns rather than waste of lives and destructions of valuables all in disguise of enriching governments at the top in claim of fighting for the masses.

BIG LIE. Because the war is always irrelevant and unnecessary.
Sometimes ago I read a news headline where an analyst was comparing the capacities of the both countries on who has the best armies and weapons. All are being hyping and pushing the other to unnecessary engagements of wars.
Indeed the masses has no say when the government has decided. Believe it all that we as the masses are being used by the governments.

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April 15, 2024, 10:53:27 PM
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It's obvious that most governments do not have their citizens in mind rather they act according to their selfish wills. According to a french social scientist Jean-François Bayart, he said in french that we are operating a politics of the belly (politique du ventre). What he meant by this is that the current governments in control of most countries are only seeking for food to feed their selves, never having the populous in mind.

I feel so bad for the people in any the two countries because they will keep living in fear as they don't know what to expect yet as their governments are using them for fulfill their own aims of supremacy.
How can a group of cartels gamble with the lives of citizens, for what the believe is revenge, it's very difficult to absorb as this behaviours are to be expected from psychopaths, except they are forcing us to believe that they are all psychopaths whom the power mistakenly fall into their hands hence the misuse of power is understandable. Perhaps a I hope is that this ingrates that has the monopoly of force to do what they like don't cause a world war 3 with the stupid actions they are taking.

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April 16, 2024, 12:16:34 AM
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I am looking at different media from various sources and they tell different things. The other one said that they've successfully penetrated Israel, the others said that they've successfully defended. But we're all getting the point here that these are all pointless because in the end, the people from both nations are going to suffer and this has been there since the ages of time. No one is going to win this war unless both of them truce or one of them admits their fault or try to understand that there's more to humanity and it's not about territorial disputes, religions, difference of races and any other things. As what your title is all about, this is all about everyone, the people, the citizens there, the kids, the old, those with diseases, the able, the unable, etc.

BIG LIE. Because the war is always irrelevant and unnecessary.
Sometimes ago I read a news headline where an analyst was comparing the capacities of the both countries on who has the best armies and weapons. All are being hyping and pushing the other to unnecessary engagements of wars.
Indeed the masses has no say when the government has decided. Believe it all that we as the masses are being used by the governments.
These world leaders, they're playing these games on a different level. While many of us enjoy these war games on computer video games but they're making it on a different level. This is the sick reality of the world, arms dealer, missiles, rockets, sirens, etc. What they want to hear are all these and then at the end who's triumphant and victor? There's really no victor on these wars but the collateral damages are going to be great, the trauma that it's going to give to the people, you see people flock and leave these countries and finding some shelter elsewhere. Aren't they happy with this sick war that they're trying to play? my Lord please save the humanity.

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April 16, 2024, 03:19:09 PM
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Who are the government using, are they not the same people from the society in which we all live in, what they have succeeded in doing is to create confusion among the people so that there will be diversifications and they don't understand each other anymore, so that one part that go with them will be funded and receive the required support and ammunitions to use in attacking towards the opponents, this is how they operates and how  it actually works, if we all join hands together to avoid corruption, diversity and other forms of disunity among us, they will never succeed in using anyone of us against us for war.



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April 16, 2024, 04:42:56 PM
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Iran and Israel war has been trending since the weekend and it has caused lot of tensions not just within the concerned territories but insighting its possibilities of extension to other regions.

There is nothing like the Iran and Israel war. Israel attacked the Iranian Consulate in Damascus which led to the death of thirteen people including a high-ranking military officer. Iran retaliated by unleashing about 300 drones and missiles on Israeli territory. That's just the situation, it has not escalated to war yet.

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Right in, while the Iranian government is celebrating that they have successfully hit Israel as a revenge, civilians whom are known to be defenceless and acknowledging that retaliation or war in general is never an option for a peaceful society are now living in the pool of fear and right as it is they are scampering to different places in taking cover measures Incase Israel decides to hit back.
Iranian government celebrates "revenge" strikes on Israel but civilians fear response

Citizens need to take precautions measures because they are scared that these conflicts might lead to full-scale war. Even in Israel schools were shut down and public gathering was reduced because of the attack. So it is normal for civilians to panic during such military confrontation.

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This should be an obvious note that the government engages on power tussles out of their political interests and no for the interests of their citizens else they would put some circumstances like this in considerations and just accept defeat without pulling a muscle if that would bring fortunes to their people and your slack to respond
would not mean that you are a weakly but having the welfares and orderliness of the masses as a prior and not engaging on the so supremacies where resources are termed a waste because wars does not bring any good returns rather than waste of lives and destructions of valuables all in disguise of enriching governments at the top in claim of fighting for the masses.

We have to support peace and promote dialogue in settling grievances. But you wouldn't expect a government to fold their hands and allow some aggressive nations to destroy lives and properties without responding accordingly. War is not the best avenue to settle disputes but sometimes it becomes the only option.

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April 17, 2024, 10:14:14 AM
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So unfortunate that the government can be questioned but not answerable to the masses.
After voting them in due to their humility and generous behaviours during when they needed the masses support on election days and then finally they resumes office, right after they becomes tyrants and vampires feeding on the flesh and bloods of those who gave them mandates of power in the governing councils.
Government would project war against citizens after citizens and so on Coats to Coasts with any citizen refusal to embark on the war designed by the government dies by the swords of the same government who claims they're fighting for the goodness of the same masses.
Just obvious as the popular saying that if you react you'd die and if you don't talk you'd still die which has really got no safe place for the masses under a government. The masses are like livings projected for the ritual productive purposes for the executive government affairs.

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Right in, while Iranian government is celebrating that they have successfully hit Israel as a revenge, civilians whom are known to be defenceless and acknowledging that retaliation or war in general is never an option for a peaceful society are now living in the pool of fear and right as it is they are scampering to different places in taking cover measures Incase Israel decides to hit back.
That's a weird way of narrating the situation.
This was not revenge, this was punishment. An illegitimate rogue regime commonly known as Israel that is currently being prosecuted for genocide and a wide range of crimes against humanity by the International Court of Justice, has been breaking the international laws such as the article 2 of the UN Charter. Breaking laws requires punishment to follow.

In the civilized society, breaking the law has consequences. You wouldn't say anything negative about the police car chasing the armed criminals that just robbed a bank and are speeding away in the streets, would you? Civilians are put in danger in such a car chase too but if the  criminals aren't caught and punished, the damage to the civilization is a lot higher.

On a global scale, when rogue regimes break the international laws, they should similarly be punished. We already have mechanisms for this through the United Nations and the international laws that are accepted by all civilized countries. The problem is that sometimes these systems are rigged and they act impotently in face of certain criminal regimes. Like the case with Israel that spits at any UN security council resolution for as long as it has existed which is not that long!
This is where we are forced to find an alternative means such as getting a superpowers like Iran to intervene and enforce the rule of law to prevent chaos and criminal acts from becoming a "norm" so for example from tomorrow other rogue regimes don't think they can just break any laws they want like attacking embassies and killing diplomats and get away with it.

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April 17, 2024, 10:55:43 AM
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I don’t know what to believe any more, who started hostilities, who is at fault etc. All I know is that I am sick of conflict around the world, needless deaths because of volatile leaders who can’t just be submissive & stop bombing people. We really do not need another major war so hopefully sense is seen ASAP.

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April 17, 2024, 11:44:08 AM
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I read yesterday where Israeli civilians were protesting in a riot that their prime minister Benjamin Natenyahu, should resign from office, because he has failed to secure the release of their citizens who are still held hostage by Hamas, they believe that he's going ahead in the war without any regards for the lives of the hostages. Some of these world leaders who engage their countries in wars might not have the interests of their citizens before planing a war, because them and their immediate families will be flown to safety if the war hits up, then the rest of their citizens will be the ones to suffer. Although I must confess that sometimes wars can become inevitable if another country trespasses into their territories, a country will be compelled to respond to such threats, which will my earn war.

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April 17, 2024, 11:56:21 AM
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 There's the saying that when two elephants are fighting, it's the grass that suffers and in this case it's the people. We have greedy megalomaniacs who don't give two shots about the next person as long as they gain from it. When there's war and unrest, the people turn to the government for succour and in but don't get what they need instead they get exploited.
 It's sad that the ungoing war between Israel and Gaza is not even looking like it's going to end soon, and that innocent lives will be wasted just to suit their purposes.

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April 17, 2024, 04:23:40 PM
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Iran and Israel war has been trending since the weekend and it has caused lot of tensions not just within the concerned territories but insighting its possibilities of extension to other regions.

Right in, while Iranian government is celebrating that they have successfully hit Israel as a revenge, civilians whom are known to be defenceless and acknowledging that retaliation or war in general is never an option for a peaceful society are now living in the pool of fear and right as it is they are scampering to different places in taking cover measures Incase Israel decides to hit back.
Iranian government celebrates "revenge" strikes on Israel but civilians fear response


This should be an obvious note that the government engages on power tussles out of their political interests and no for the interests of their citizens else they would put some circumstances like this in considerations and just accept defeat without pulling a muscle if that would bring fortunes to their people and your slack to respond
would not mean that you are a weakly but having the welfares and orderliness of the masses as a prior and not engaging on the so supremacies where resources are termed a waste because wars does not bring any good returns rather than waste of lives and destructions of valuables all in disguise of enriching governments at the top in claim of fighting for the masses.

BIG LIE. Because the war is always irrelevant and unnecessary.
Sometimes ago I read a news headline where an analyst was comparing the capacities of the both countries on who has the best armies and weapons. All are being hyping and pushing the other to unnecessary engagements of wars.
Indeed the masses has no say when the government has decided. Believe it all that we as the masses are being used by the governments.
War is necessity and part of live. From the very beginning of this world,Men have been fighting wars to survive,protect, build and expand their empires,few lives have to be sacrificed for the greater good of the majority.in the case of iran and Israel,Israeli govt have feeling so invincible,impenetrable and have been intimidating other Arab nations with the influence of the United States. I think Iran should celebrate more for successfully launching and attack on Israeli territory. In a fragile world like this,war is necessary to establish law and order in our society.
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April 17, 2024, 06:55:38 PM
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I see a lot of this fear mongering in Europe too, where US generals say in interviews that they expect Russia to attack NATO, even though Putin said it many times that Russia will not attack NATO unless attacked first. Also, Russians know they'd lose this. There's no scenario where they can defeat NATO because they have less forces, too much area to cover and, unlike in Ukraine, would face a nuclear war.

Even if Iran attacks Israel it will not be a world war. Such escalation is possible, but it's again puts a nuclear option on the table.

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