Why seeing merit button on my post when I can not merit my own post

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When I go through a post of other members, I will see the link to a merit page which can be used to merit the particular post that you have just read. If it is my own post, I can not merit it. Then why should merit link to give merit to a post be seen on my own post when I can not merit myself. I think something should be done for us not to see the merit link on our own posts. Only other people's posts should the merit link be seen.

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[Mia Chloe]

Yes thats very true Op just like you won't find edit post button and delete post button on another users post except you are obviously moderator. If I get you correctly , what you are making is suggestion that there should be no merit button for self posts and threads.In that case I think it would be more direct to make the topic something like;

Code:

[Suggestion]Merit button for OP's posts 

Anyways I am just a basic code writer so I really can't tell how difficult it would be to make such edit nor can I suggest way to edit it. Anyways let's just hope that theymos and the Bitcointalk developer team would consider this suggestion.

[Mrbluntzy]

When I go through a post of other members, I will see the link to a merit page which can be used to merit the particular post that you have just read. If it is my own post, I can not merit it. Then why should merit link to give merit to a post be seen on my own post when I can not merit myself. I think something should be done for us not to see the merit link on our own posts. Only other people's posts should the merit link be seen.

I also noticed same thing, but I never bothered to ask because seems that's how it has been right from when I have not joined the forum. Once you make comment on a topic, you will definitely see the merit button on that your comment but when you try to merit your self, it wouldn't work. That's how the coding of the website was done, it was code in such a way that anyone who makes comment on each topic will have a merit menu on their commet but button will be non functional. I don't have problem with it being there as long as I don't pay attention to it and I feel it's not even right to award merit to yourself. Other people should be the one to appreciate your comment by giving it merit and not doing it by yourself.

[EL MOHA]

It wouldn’t be a bad idea to get it removed but the question remains is it actually necessary to do so? I would have actually gone with idea that it should be removed if at all if someone uses it and the merit goes through by allowing to send to yourself but since the options is blocks you off then there is no problem like mistake of sending to your self. Also although o don’t have much knowledge about this patches, but wouldn’t create more of a problem eliminating that button only for yourself, if it were to be a easy fix then no problem but something tells me it will mostly affects like plenty areas on the patch, which to me wouldn’t worth the hassle.

[KingsDen]

When I go through a post of other members, I will see the link to a merit page which can be used to merit the particular post that you have just read. If it is my own post, I can not merit it. Then why should merit link to give merit to a post be seen on my own post when I can not merit myself. I think something should be done for us not to see the merit link on our own posts. Only other people's posts should the merit link be seen.

Could this also be likened to a question as "why allow me see and click a locked thread if I cannot post in it?". I think we should just disregard things that do not seriously pose a problem to anyone in the forum. Let's keep going hoping that someday a new forum software might emerge.

[Hatchy]

When I go through a post of other members, I will see the link to a merit page which can be used to merit the particular post that you have just read. If it is my own post, I can not merit it. Then why should merit link to give merit to a post be seen on my own post when I can not merit myself. I think something should be done for us not to see the merit link on our own posts. Only other people's posts should the merit link be seen.

Though it shouldn't be a topic in question as it has been suggested or asked several times, I still think it should be removed from a users end. As a user who already knows the forum very well and understand that you cannot merit yourself then we shouldn't be that bothered if the button works or not.

Anyways I am just a basic code writer so I really can't tell how difficult it would be to make such edit nor can I suggest way to edit it. Anyways let's just hope that theymos and the Bitcointalk developer team would consider this suggestion.

If it were a major problem, I guess by now alot of programmers would have suggested a fix for theymos. And he must have taught of it before now but I think he just wants the forum to remain as it is.

[joker_josue]

I understand your point, and it doesn't seem to make sense for the button to be available on a post that you can't give merit to. Logically, it is possible to make this type of adjustment, so that it does not appear in these topics. Maybe our service tech @PowerGlove can take a look.

Either way, it's good to understand why the merit button appears in all posts (even those that have no use) and other buttons do not appear (such as edit post). The buttons, such as edit post, are an original part of the software used by the forum. That's why all the features are already integrated, allowing you to only appear in posts that can be used.

The merit button was added later, and for faster implementation, the option to only appear in posts where it can be used was not coded. In other words, it was easier to place the button on all posts, and then on the merit page to manage this, whether or not to give merit. Basically, the simplest and fastest way to implement merit was used, without having to make major changes to the original code.

In short, it is possible to adjust so that the merit button only appears in posts where this can be done. This was not done, due to the complexity involved, which was not extremely necessary for merit to work.

[mikeywith]

I think something should be done for us not to see the merit link on our own posts. Only other people's posts should the merit link be seen.

When you have a code this large you want to be touching it as little as possible, it's probably a few minutes' job but if it's not super important it would only be

1- A waste of time.
2- Might break something along the line.

I have been here for 5 years or so, written thousands of posts, and read tens of thousands of posts, it never bothered me, I got used to it -- I don't even notice it now.

[BlackBoss_]

If it is my own post, I can not merit it.

At the end, it works just fine, you can not merit your posts by yourself. There is notification after you click on Merit, to merit your own post. Type the merit number and send.

You cannot send merit to yourself

Then why should merit link to give merit to a post be seen on my own post when I can not merit myself. I think something should be done for us not to see the merit link on our own posts. Only other people's posts should the merit link be seen.

It works just fine and I understand your idea but if it requires some effort to code or bigger issue on the forum operation, the current notification is acceptable.

You can make your proposal to PowerGlove and see will he can code a SMF patch, then send it to theymos for approval.

[mk4]

It really shouldn't be there because meriting your own post makes zero sense yes(and is not allowed anyway), but is it that really bad of a deal? It's a total nothingburger just ignore it as it won't harm anyone anyway. I'd be totally fine if Theymos left it as it is.

[Davidvictorson]

You asked a very good question which I have thought about in time past but decided not to ask since it doesn't bother me. I know that I cannot merit myself even when wants to make me think I can. I just do not let it bother me. However, you can come up with an alternative and send a PM to the user who helped to write the forum's program and see what happens.

[Nheer]

You are making it sound as a big deal, I see nothing wrong with that or does the merit link that appears disturbs you or stops you from doing anything? If it doesn’t then just ignore it because i see no reason for it to be taken down since it's harmless. If you already know it appears and it is useless then why bother about it. Meriting oneself doesn’t even sound right and if it was to be allowed then everyone will keep sending merit to himself/herself and no one would want to merit other people’s posts.

[SamReomo]

I think there is no harm in seeing that merit button on our own post. We all know that we can't merit our own posts and that's why seeing that merit button isn't an issue and we can always avoid it without thinking too much about it.

I believe creating a code to disable that merit button on someone's own post can also create bugs, or other issues for the forum, and that's why I believe the button may stay there and members should continue avoiding that like they have been doing always.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

When I go through a post of other members, I will see the link to a merit page which can be used to merit the particular post that you have just read. If it is my own post, I can not merit it. Then why should merit link to give merit to a post be seen on my own post when I can not merit myself. I think something should be done for us not to see the merit link on our own posts. Only other people's posts should the merit link be seen.

Nice observation, though i never thought about it for any reason, i don't even think I've once noticed for such, though since the merit pattern does not allow for one to merit self and if the button exist there, it only makes you rather remember that you can choose to merit any other post made after your own, but on the attempt to self merit yourself, you may discover that such is not allowed, but still yet, something can be done as OP have suggested that the feature does not applies to the original poster to see the merit icon on the post he made, while other post could remain as before having this feature.

[Mate2237]

This is the long waited question in the forum since the outset of my being here here. And if it is written " you can't merit yourself" then it is fine but if the opposite is found then disasters will occur but it's like that button is not working if not people would have merited themselves to see if the button is working in addition many people are afraid to click that button for the fear of penalty. That button was really tempting.

And since the button is not working then there is no need to keep that button or hyperlink there. It is better to remove it from the poster. I will test the button to know how it is after this post. I have tested it and this is the pop up message I got.

[_act_]

Could this also be likened to a question as "why allow me see and click a locked thread if I cannot post in it?". I think we should just disregard things that do not seriously pose a problem to anyone in the forum. Let's keep going hoping that someday a new forum software might emerge.

I do not understand your question. But if it is about the topic that moderators locked, that the topic poster should not see unlock topic because it is the moderators that lock it and the topic starter can not unlock it. That is also a good suggestion. I posted this to bring it to PowerGlove notice if there is anything that can be done. Do not say an upgrade is not necessary. Even if we do not have new forum software as of now, there can be changes in this present software. Before 2FA was implemented on this forum, this is also how some people said something like you but now we have 2FA login.

[Mate2237]

Could this also be likened to a question as "why allow me see and click a locked thread if I cannot post in it?". I think we should just disregard things that do not seriously pose a problem to anyone in the forum. Let's keep going hoping that someday a new forum software might emerge.

I think what the Op asked.or suggest is a good one because many we tempted to click that link but they were afraid and with this thread, my confidence was also build that if I merit myself I will not be penalized and I just tested the button and it shows that I cannot merit myself. It not this, I was always wanted to ask this question for long time but wasn't able to do so. I even thanks the Op for bringing this to the forum to reduce tension. I think a newbie created a similar thread I'm another form and he was rebuked.

There are something we over looked thinking that they are nothing and no mean harm but indepth looking they are dangerous. And now that Op has bring this to the public then we all now know that it has no harm.

[DabsPoorVersion]

Could this also be likened to a question as "why allow me see and click a locked thread if I cannot post in it?". I think we should just disregard things that do not seriously pose a problem to anyone in the forum. Let's keep going hoping that someday a new forum software might emerge.

I do not understand your question. But if it is about the topic that moderators locked, that the topic poster should not see unlock topic because it is the moderators that lock it and the topic starter can not unlock it. That is also a good suggestion. I posted this to bring it to PowerGlove notice if there is anything that can be done. Do not say an upgrade is not necessary. Even if we do not have new forum software as of now, there can be changes in this present software. Before 2FA was implemented on this forum, this is also how some people said something like you but now we have 2FA login.

I think what he meant by that is, since there's nothing can be done just like in locked threads, it's better to disregard it. But unlike in locked threads, there are a few reasons why it is locked but stays as it is, which is to be read and give information to other users. Especially, if it is a reminder or a rule that should be the first thing to be seen by all.

Meaning, it shouldn't be compared to what you have suggested. Having a merit button is not the same as locked thread.

Removing this merit button to your own post should be removed, only if it is possible. Though, it won't cause anything if the admin will not be going to remove it. We can just disregard it.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Is this a big problem? Let the merit button be a reminder for people who accumulate merit to be more attentive to other people's posts and not to be greedy in giving away their own.
Thinking about whether merit can be given to oneself seems like patting oneself on the head, since it is difficult to receive it from others. Such a thought has never occurred to me, and it’s funny when people think about it.
Perfectionism is certainly good, but it’s not the problem.

[hugeblack]

Without using userscripts, sending merits requires a lot of time and effort, so I agree with you that we need modifications, but they must all be in one update.

The most important thing is that if theymos is busy, why not ask for a developer, even part-time, there are a lot of modifications required, most of which have not been implemented.

[Coyster]

You are correct that it shouldn't be there, but the admin is very reluctant to make changes (even when it is necessary), meaning they would never spend time implementing something that isn't actually a problem.

If a suggestion does not solve a particular problem, i don't think the admin would even think about implementing it, the merit button beside your own posts is not a problem, as long as you can't merit yourself and you get an error when you try it.

[LoyceV]

It's probably for the same reason you still see a Merit button when you've reached your maximum for that user, or when you're out of sMerit: it's not worth the effort to remove all exceptions.

[philipma1957]

When I go through a post of other members, I will see the link to a merit page which can be used to merit the particular post that you have just read. If it is my own post, I can not merit it. Then why should merit link to give merit to a post be seen on my own post when I can not merit myself. I think something should be done for us not to see the merit link on our own posts. Only other people's posts should the merit link be seen.

It is corrected by the following step a click to merit yourself




do a wrong amount 0 and see what happens




it tells you invalid amount even though you sent it to yourself

do a correct amount say 1


it says "fuck you asshole" you can't merit yourself.  I added that  just to wake us up this morning


I can assure you that if you fix the merit yourself issue the way you do you will likely interfere with the code that says you sent a wrong / invalid amount.

To ask for what you want costs time.

Why not ask power glove  if he could fix it how long and how much code it will take then offer to pay him 100 usd an hour to fix it.


BTW when I see that other things are wrapped into it such as you sent an invalid amount 0 for instance. I know that "you can not send over 50 merits a month to the same person"  is linked into that same line of code.

[EarnOnVictor]

You mean you like to be meriting your own posts...lol Well, I've always seen that merit button on my posts but I believe it's not a big deal, especially if the system can tell you upon trying it that it is not possible to merit your post as the creator.

And if you had practically tried that before, then I must say you are one of the bravest hearts on this forum and curiosity must have pushed you towards that experiment. I've always been tempted to try it, even yesterday before you posted this topic, but I've tried my best to avoid it because if it mistakingly pushed through, I know I will have enough people to explain to on the forum that it was a mistake.

You know how our people behave.

[OgNasty]

When I go through a post of other members, I will see the link to a merit page which can be used to merit the particular post that you have just read. If it is my own post, I can not merit it. Then why should merit link to give merit to a post be seen on my own post when I can not merit myself. I think something should be done for us not to see the merit link on our own posts. Only other people's posts should the merit link be seen.

It is corrected by the following step a click to merit yourself

That's funny.  I've never tried to merit myself before.  Seeing this, I went a step further and tried to leave myself a feedback rating.  I was also denied.  Damn.  I thought this was my chance to be a true self-scratcher.  It is a bit funny to think there are people out there who probably tried to leave themselves merit or trust ratings only to be denied.  I guess this is why some people spend so much time farming alts and forming trust/merit circles.  Personally, I think it would be funny if people could leave themselves merit, only instead of giving them merit it just destroys it.

[acroman08]

I think something should be done for us not to see the merit link on our own posts. Only other people's posts should the merit link be seen.

as long as it doesn't allow us to merit ourselves, I don't see any issue with it, besides, its not like it is distracting or disrupt your day to day forum experience. also, I barely even notice it when I am online and as LoyceV mentioned, it's not worth the effort to remove it.

[Mpamaegbu]

OP, your observation is merit worthy. Sad I don't have any to splash on it. I believe that button was an oversight when merit was coded into this forum, and could be too much work to edit out after it was discovered later on. Perhaps, @PowerGlove could come to the rescue now that such is under review.