"Jontay Porter receives lifetime ban from NBA for violating gambling rules"

[ChiBitCTy]

I've seen this story being mentioned in the NBA threads, but wanted to post about it separately as this is one of the craziest gambling stories I've ever heard of.  I'm not sure if any active pro sports player, at least here in the United States, has ever been permanently banned from their sport while the season is going on like this.  Do you guys think the punishment fits the crime? He broke all sorts of ethical rules and I believe he deserves the punishment he got.

Thoughts in general?

"A league investigation found that Porter violated league rules by disclosing confidential information to sports bettors, limiting his own participation in one or more games for betting purposes, and betting on NBA games," the statement read".

"The NBA also found that prior to the game, Porter disclosed confidential information about his health status to "an individual he knew to be an NBA bettor." A different individual associated with Porter also bet that Porter would underperform March 20 as part of an $80,000 parlay the bettor placed with an online sports book".

To read more about this crazy story- https://sports.yahoo.com/jontay-porter-receives-lifetime-ban-from-nba-for-violating-gambling-rules-162005615.html

[SamReomo]

I think he got what he deserved, it's totally against the rules of game to disclose such confidential information to anyone.

When someone knows about your state of mind, or state of health then that's going to be something which may allow them to use such information for betting purpose these days.

Jontay Porter intentionally disclosed such information and that's something totally unacceptable. I think that lifetime ban from NBA isn't injustice in anyway because such players can do that again.

[iv4n]

The punishment is appropriate definitely, when he decided to cheat the bookmakers, he also cheated many gamblers who bet on his games.

The league also determined that Porter placed at least 13 bets on NBA games using someone else's betting account. The bets ranged from $15 to $22,000; the total wagered was $54,094 and generated a payout of $76,059, or net winnings of $21,965.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/arts/nba-bans-jontay-porter-after-gambling-probe-shows-he-shared-information-bet-on-games

I just find it very strange that someone is risking their future and much higher earnings for this little money. He must have known that something like this was forbidden and that there would be consequences, maybe he didn't believe that the consequences would be this big, but it seems that he will serve as an example to all other athletes who cheat.

[cabron]

The punishment is appropriate definitely, when he decided to cheat the bookmakers, he also cheated many gamblers who bet on his games.

The league also determined that Porter placed at least 13 bets on NBA games using someone else's betting account. The bets ranged from $15 to $22,000; the total wagered was $54,094 and generated a payout of $76,059, or net winnings of $21,965.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/arts/nba-bans-jontay-porter-after-gambling-probe-shows-he-shared-information-bet-on-games

I just find it very strange that someone is risking their future and much higher earnings for this little money. He must have known that something like this was forbidden and that there would be consequences, maybe he didn't believe that the consequences would be this big, but it seems that he will serve as an example to all other athletes who cheat.

Probably didn't expect he'd be caught. I was listening to the guy in the video and he said Las Vegas is out to get you. Looks like they know everything that went there including those who secretly disclose information.

It'd be good to know who the owner of the betting account who he used to bet. It's not mentioned in the story, I guess that guy has a close relationship with him? Or does he just have a loud mouth?

Anyway, a violation is a violation.

[Liquid_Gas]

Jontay Porter worked hard most of his whole life to get into the NBA. He can never get it back and has many years left to try to beat back the sadness of having his happy dream explode into a nightmare. It's his fault and he deserves the tough punishment.

[OgNasty]

I'm seeing a lot of people on social media criticize this lifetime ban and talk about how much more severe the punishment is then what other players have received for more serious crimes.  While this is true, I think that one thing should be remembered for those that want to make this argument...  Jontay Porter didn't do something outside of basketball like assault a woman or get caught with drugs.  These are the typical things we're used to seeing players get suspended over.  From a basketball perspective though, Jontay tried to cheat the game.  On the court amongst basketball players, this is the worst crime imaginable.  You don't cheat the game.  He's being made an example of also because he's not a major player.  If it were someone with a bigger name, then he probably would've gotten a private suspension and spent a couple years playing baseball while he waits to get back in the league...

[acroman08]

what a waste of opportunity, this guy basically just threw the job that secures his financial stability.

this guy is probably addicted to sports betting, I mean who in their right mind would risk their job that pays hundreds of thousands of dollars to millions of dollars just to bet on sports and win only thousands of dollars. what he did is extremely reckless and stupid on his part and has only himself to blame for what happened to his basketball career.

[Nwada001]

The punishment is equivalent to what he did; this is just like fixed match games where two teams or an entire team will have to agree about the outcome of a particular game either based on betting purposes or a mutual agreement between both teams, and one of the team members will then disclose this to their relatives or friends to place a bet based on that information. 

Such information being leaked can lead to a great loss for a company, which is against betting ethics, so he deserves what he got. If it were even possible, whatever was won by those who placed bets on that particular game should have been placed on him to receive a refund.

[Jating]

Just to mentioned as well that he is the brother of Michael Porter Jr, of the defending champion Nuggets.

And as far as I know, there are games that he will really be under performing, he even had a drive and then pass in the last minutes to not score in that game. And again, if I'm not mistaken, there are bettors who suddenly put a lot of money on him, and Vegas caught this odd, that there is something wrong with that particular bet causing it to be investigated.

Yeah, players that are involved in betting should get a lifetime ban no question about it.

[South Park]

Jontay Porter worked hard most of his whole life to get into the NBA. He can never get it back and has many years left to try to beat back the sadness of having his happy dream explode into a nightmare. It's his fault and he deserves the tough punishment.

This is what makes this even more puzzling, to play on the NBA is incredibly difficult, as there are many kids that have that dream and they train all their lives to do so and they fail, he was privileged enough to get a spot on an NBA team, and while his numbers were not impressive and it could have led to a short career on the NBA, at least he could look at his past achievements and share that with his kids, which will look up to him and want to be just like their dad, but now he has an immense stain on his career, one that could affect him when trying to get some other jobs, as who wants a person inside their company that could sell their corporate secrets?

[btc_angela]

The punishment is appropriate definitely, when he decided to cheat the bookmakers, he also cheated many gamblers who bet on his games.

The league also determined that Porter placed at least 13 bets on NBA games using someone else's betting account. The bets ranged from $15 to $22,000; the total wagered was $54,094 and generated a payout of $76,059, or net winnings of $21,965.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/arts/nba-bans-jontay-porter-after-gambling-probe-shows-he-shared-information-bet-on-games

I just find it very strange that someone is risking their future and much higher earnings for this little money. He must have known that something like this was forbidden and that there would be consequences, maybe he didn't believe that the consequences would be this big, but it seems that he will serve as an example to all other athletes who cheat.

He is not a well known NBA player, and probably he think that he can get away with it without the NBA knowing what he had done. But unfortunately, he could be doing it for years already and we all know that there is always a first time and so if someone bet on him and with huge amount of money and win, then just a matter of time for him to get caught.

And so with that, it was swift sentencing by the NBA and the guy deserved a punishment and for sure this ruling will echo on those current NBA players that are somewhat betting, specially on their games.

[Fortify]

I've seen this story being mentioned in the NBA threads, but wanted to post about it separately as this is one of the craziest gambling stories I've ever heard of.  I'm not sure if any active pro sports player, at least here in the United States, has ever been permanently banned from their sport while the season is going on like this.  Do you guys think the punishment fits the crime? He broke all sorts of ethical rules and I believe he deserves the punishment he got.

Thoughts in general?

"A league investigation found that Porter violated league rules by disclosing confidential information to sports bettors, limiting his own participation in one or more games for betting purposes, and betting on NBA games," the statement read".

"The NBA also found that prior to the game, Porter disclosed confidential information about his health status to "an individual he knew to be an NBA bettor." A different individual associated with Porter also bet that Porter would underperform March 20 as part of an $80,000 parlay the bettor placed with an online sports book".

To read more about this crazy story- https://sports.yahoo.com/jontay-porter-receives-lifetime-ban-from-nba-for-violating-gambling-rules-162005615.html

Sometimes these players just get far too greedy, I expect he was on a substantial wage and probably had to follow relatively few rules if he wanted to keep it. A lifetime ban seems a bit excessive, but realistically even if he was banned for 3 or 5 years it would put many players past their prime anyway. I'm guessing he made many of these bets over a long period and potentially profited quite a bit from it. The sort of very specific bets he would have been able to unlock as a player probably gave substantially higher odds than normal bets. I have zero sympathy for the sportbooks or the casinos that rake in huge profits, but cheating players are not exactly the best sort of people either.

[angrybirdy]

Jontay Porter worked hard most of his whole life to get into the NBA. He can never get it back and has many years left to try to beat back the sadness of having his happy dream explode into a nightmare. It's his fault and he deserves the tough punishment.

well, before you do something, you need to think carefully about what will be the effect on yourself and most of all on the majority? Imagine, you are part of a team, but you are going to disclose information that someone can use to make money, that seems unfair to other bettors who have no idea at all while they trusting your ability, right? if he is banned from the NBA, I think that's right, he deserves it because he has no respect for the game rules, what he did when he disclosed about his health condition, seems like it was intentional for the sake of gambling winning and maybe he is also one of the Gambling participants that's why he could have done that incident.

[Ambatman]

He deserve it. Selling your future for a couple of bucks
Can't understand why people seeing short term benefit neglect the long term effects.
As a professional there are certain information that shouldn't be disclosed and especially been exploited for their benefit.
Insider trading smells the same with punishment ranging from bad to worst.
I believe the punishment is worth it, This would limit the actions of those doing or planing it from engaging in such.

[Dave1]

Yes, I put it in the NBA discussion thread prior to the decision, here.

So good riddance to Jontay, and I urge everyone to look at some of his videos while him playing and you can really see that it's all fake about his injury inside, playing for like 5 minute and then be replaced by someone without scoring.

There's something off with this player and it's good that the NBA has ban, and he just throw off millions just for around $80k.

[Miles2006]

The restriction will definitely affect his well being, like wtf a lifetime ban for violating rules and not just common rules but real and standard rules, the act carried out by Jontay is cheating from my opinion, what was his impression aside the profit involve cause this is strange. Sometimes people should avoid making expensive mistake that can ruin their career or business within seconds.  Everything with an advantage must have a disavantage and consequences but he would have thought twice before making negative decisions just for gain. Lessons learnt and I'm sure people will learn from his mistakes as well

[o48o]

I've seen this story being mentioned in the NBA threads, but wanted to post about it separately as this is one of the craziest gambling stories I've ever heard of.  I'm not sure if any active pro sports player, at least here in the United States, has ever been permanently banned from their sport while the season is going on like this.  Do you guys think the punishment fits the crime? He broke all sorts of ethical rules and I believe he deserves the punishment he got.

Thoughts in general?

"A league investigation found that Porter violated league rules by disclosing confidential information to sports bettors, limiting his own participation in one or more games for betting purposes, and betting on NBA games," the statement read".

"The NBA also found that prior to the game, Porter disclosed confidential information about his health status to "an individual he knew to be an NBA bettor." A different individual associated with Porter also bet that Porter would underperform March 20 as part of an $80,000 parlay the bettor placed with an online sports book".

To read more about this crazy story- https://sports.yahoo.com/jontay-porter-receives-lifetime-ban-from-nba-for-violating-gambling-rules-162005615.html

Sure. Examples needs to be made of to give a strong signal against others that are tempted doing that.

But what i am amazed of here, is that these aren't that big of amounts, so how exactly did he raise red flags so that he got caught? What kind of betting irregularities that fall under reasonable suspicion to be investigated further? Is increased betting interest for certain situations just enough for that?

And i can't find any data how did they even do that? It's not like NBA can tap phones or somehing.

I strongly believe that some insider had to have bragged about this hustle and got recorded or something.

[PX-Z]

Everything with an advantage must have a disavantage and consequences but he would have thought twice before making negative decisions just for gain. Lessons learnt and I'm sure people will learn from his mistakes as well

I read in Fortune that it's the first time happened where NBA banned a player because of gambling in the last 70 years. Which is the reason why Jontay don't mind of doing that without thinking the cons of his actions.  Probably he didnt expect things will go south after doing things like that or he is just ignorance of the rules.

[blockman]

Now a part of gambling and professional sports history. Porter did himself a favor by thinking that while betting, he can maneuver the game as he's a player of that bet of his own.

"The NBA also found that prior to the game, Porter disclosed confidential information about his health status to "an individual he knew to be an NBA bettor." A different individual associated with Porter also bet that Porter would underperform March 20 as part of an $80,000 parlay the bettor placed with an online sports book".

And this is getting spicier, a parlay of $80k.. That's sick and he'd really do anything he can to win that bet and not the game itself if he's betting against his team.

[nelson4lov]

So he sold he reputation and career for a mere $80K cashout bet when he was getting a lot more from the NBA. It is my belief that all of these players usually sign legal docs that effectively limits them from disclosing such information and that punishment, imo fits the crime really well. By disclosing such information, he gave his friend an unfair advantage in the game. The punishment is very harsh but if it mild, a lot of players will want to do it too especially if all they can get is a slap on the wrist.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.