ROLLBIT scammed 130.000$ and made me an addict without taking action on it!

[swagg87]

I joined Rollbit on June in 2023 when I saw one of these Ayezee record wins on YouTube. I headed over to Twitter and found a plenty of posts how some guys managed to generate huge gains with their leverage trading what seemed very interesting to me.

So far I was only into hodlin btc eth and buying and selling a couple of memes. So I registered on rollbit, set up an account and deposited 400$ to give it a try. I was able to cash out some profit on my first trade which wasn’t a problem at all. Support been very kind and after a short checking period my eth has been credited to my metamask. So I repeated the process a couple of times using the leverage trading with no markable losses or gains.

Then I opened the house games playing small bets on plinko and things started to get bad for me. I started depositing 300 to 1000 (via Eth) a week.. things went so bad for me that from the end of October 2023 to January 2024 I managed to put all my life savings straight to rollbit wallets which were diminished every single time to zero without any chance of even getting a part of my money back. Sus that I 2 times I had a win that would have covered at least a quarter of my depos at this point (80k depos - around 20k win - back to balance)

I was in contact with support every two or three days asking about what’s going on with their rtp and why I’m loosing literally all my money to them. One guy by the end of a 100,000$ loss streak read that I lost all my crypto to them and didn’t even type anything back! I have screenshots of all of that cause I couldn’t believe what happened) I mean,.. definitely it was my fault don’t get me wrong - I signed up with the knowledge I could loose- but the rollbit system does not allow any chance to break even or even win something within months what is ridiculous!

A couple of days in a row I deposited 2000,3000,5000 back to back- some days my depo volume was over 10k chopped into amounts mentioned above. Meanwhile I kept complaining over that situation almost daily in support chats with several agents and literally nobody give a f about it. They didn’t ask about anything all they had to mention is that their casino is provably fair and they have highest standards, rtp is calculated on a million spins bla bla…

Literally rollbit took all my money and did not care about anything over months ! The same copy paste agent guys like every single contact. Instead of marking me as a heavy gambler what they should have done in the first couple of chats- cause there’s markers for addictive game behavior and mine definitely was bloody red.

So at this point I lost 2 btc and 30eth and I’m writing this with debts on credit card that I can’t pay back. A mother that went from a proud mom to a : okay my sons fucked up, having depression and mental health issue that made me stop training for 4 months now.

Rollbit has a highly addictive rateback to cut your loss a tiny bit over weeks by logging into your account every couple of hours. Also their algorithm of rtp is far from what industry standard should look like.

I always used to be a positive guy, motivated to the fullest, working as a influencer in the fitness scene and personal trainer irl. But now,.. I actually never felt that bad before in my life and now at the age of 37 with years of changing my life to something better and a good fundamentals to go for that I’m simply broken. what started as a promising opportunity driven by famous influencers on x shilling came out a rigged site that is set up to drain high stake gamblers or make people an addict to their system.

I will keep up informing the internet about what’s going on this evil site to never let that happen to anyone again.

[Rating Place]

I joined Rollbit on June in 2023 when I saw one of these Ayezee record wins on YouTube. I headed over to Twitter and found a plenty of posts how some guys managed to generate huge gains with their leverage trading what seemed very interesting to me.

So far I was only into hodlin btc eth and buying and selling a couple of memes. So I registered on rollbit, set up an account and deposited 400$ to give it a try. I was able to cash out some profit on my first trade which wasn’t a problem at all. Support been very kind and after a short checking period my eth has been credited to my metamask. So I repeated the process a couple of times using the leverage trading with no markable losses or gains.

Then I opened the house games playing small bets on plinko and things started to get bad for me. I started depositing 300 to 1000 (via Eth) a week.. things went so bad for me that from the end of October 2023 to January 2024 I managed to put all my life savings straight to rollbit wallets which were diminished every single time to zero without any chance of even getting a part of my money back. Sus that I 2 times I had a win that would have covered at least a quarter of my depos at this point (80k depos - around 20k win - back to balance)

I was in contact with support every two or three days asking about what’s going on with their rtp and why I’m loosing literally all my money to them. One guy by the end of a 100,000$ loss streak read that I lost all my crypto to them and didn’t even type anything back! I have screenshots of all of that cause I couldn’t believe what happened) I mean,.. definitely it was my fault don’t get me wrong - I signed up with the knowledge I could loose- but the rollbit system does not allow any chance to break even or even win something within months what is ridiculous!

A couple of days in a row I deposited 2000,3000,5000 back to back- some days my depo volume was over 10k chopped into amounts mentioned above. Meanwhile I kept complaining over that situation almost daily in support chats with several agents and literally nobody give a f about it. They didn’t ask about anything all they had to mention is that their casino is provably fair and they have highest standards, rtp is calculated on a million spins bla bla…

Literally rollbit took all my money and did not care about anything over months ! The same copy paste agent guys like every single contact. Instead of marking me as a heavy gambler what they should have done in the first couple of chats- cause there’s markers for addictive game behavior and mine definitely was bloody red.

So at this point I lost 2 btc and 30eth and I’m writing this with debts on credit card that I can’t pay back. A mother that went from a proud mom to a : okay my sons fucked up, having depression and mental health issue that made me stop training for 4 months now.

Rollbit has a highly addictive rateback to cut your loss a tiny bit over weeks by logging into your account every couple of hours. Also their algorithm of rtp is far from what industry standard should look like.

I always used to be a positive guy, motivated to the fullest, working as a influencer in the fitness scene and personal trainer irl. But now,.. I actually never felt that bad before in my life and now at the age of 37 with years of changing my life to something better and a good fundamentals to go for that I’m simply broken. what started as a promising opportunity driven by famous influencers on x shilling came out a rigged site that is set up to drain high stake gamblers or make people an addict to their system.

I will keep up informing the internet about what’s going on this evil site to never let that happen to anyone again.

Format for scam accusations https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0

[Stalker22]

I understand the frustration here, but ultimately we all have to take responsibility for our own actions.  Rollbit provides platforms for high-risk gambling, yes, but no one forced your deposits or big bets.  After multiple losses continuing to risk life savings seems unwise and  rather than accuse and assign blame, it may be best to reflect on what lessons can be learned so similar mistakes arent repeated.  There are always healthier paths forward.

Let me ask you just one thing: If it had been any other casino besides Rollbit, would you have realistically expected a different outcome in your case? Did you ever expect to come to an online casino with money and guaranteed leave with a profit?

[acroman08]

Literally rollbit took all my money and did not care about anything over months !

I hate to say this but nobody took your money, you gambled it willingly on a gambling site and lost it, and now you are blaming Rollbit because of it.

The same copy paste agent guys like every single contact. Instead of marking me as a heavy gambler what they should have done in the first couple of chats- cause there’s markers for addictive game behavior and mine definitely was bloody red.

would you mind sharing your chats with their support to see where it shows that your chats with their support has indication that you have a addiction?

[logfiles]

Did you take time to read through some tips in their Gambling with responsibility guide?
That should be the first you look to when you realize you have a problem with gambling addiction.

Aside from having a chat with live support, most of which are at times slow or incompetent. Did you take time to write an email to the support to have your self excluded from the platform given the gambling problem?

[SamReomo]

I'm very sorry for your loss but that's not scamming as you have lost everything willingly by betting. Those who play casino games should understand that there's always house edge set by a casinos on those games to be the winner in end.

Only those people who are very lucky might be able to win that house edge, but most people aren't very lucky and that's why they lose continuedly. If I were on your place, then I would never deposit such high amounts for betting on casino games.

Instead of casino games I would more like place bets on sportsbook so even with some losses, I could win by doing more research. In casino games research and strategy don't work at all or at least they haven't worked for me, but in sportsbook they sometimes work.

[DabsPoorVersion]

I feel bad about what happened to you, but I don't know why you insist that Rollbit scammed you. You are the one who has control over the money that you have deposited in your rollbit account. I have no idea how you play or how emotional you are while you are playing but it seems you are regularly playing having the mindset of taking back all your losses. You disregard all the possible things that might happen after you lose all your money in gambling, that's why the time you don't have any more money + have more debts on your credit card, you are looking for someone to blame for your actions.

At the very beginning, you should have stopped playing and let your losses to where it is. You should have taken a break and not let your emotions take over you and continue to gamble.

[DabsPoorVersion]

I feel bad about what happened to you, but I don't know why you insist that Rollbit scammed you. You are the one who has control over the money that you have deposited in your rollbit account. I have no idea how you play or how emotional you are while you are playing but it seems you are regularly playing having the mindset of taking back all your losses. You disregard all the possible things that might happen after you lose all your money in gambling, that's why the time you don't have any more money + have more debts on your credit card, you are looking for someone to blame for your actions.

At the very beginning, you should have stopped playing and let your losses to where it is. You should have taken a break and not let your emotions take over you and continue to gamble.

at this point it’s obviously you never had an issue with this point of subastance, also you did tried to make afford of thinking into someone..the act of loosing control can have a very large facets of actions - including spending money on things like drugs / gambling / over eating and whatever mate.. and its not about blaming .. I have, as expressed already, mentioned it many times that I don’t feel safe on the site and told them about loosing insane amounts - like half year’s salaries in one or two days.. ROLLBIT DONT CARE

At the very beginning, you should have gamble responsibly.

Let's say you lose a huge amount of money, like what you said, it's the amount of your half year's salary in just 1 to 2 days. It's your own action, no one told you to do it, no one in rollbit's team. It's not that they don't care, they just don't know what you want to happen.

The way you blame rollbit, for me, it seems to me you want them to take action or show that they care by giving your lost money back to you.

[dkbit98]

I will keep up informing the internet about what’s going on this evil site to never let that happen to anyone again.

You should not blame Rollbit or anyone else for becoming gambling addict and losing all your coins.
Nobody forced you to watch influencers on youtube, and nobody forced you to send coins anywhere, you did it all by yourself.
Take some responsibility for your actions, and keep your coins in cold storage to prevent rush and greedy decisions.

[Awaklara]

I have, as expressed already, mentioned it many times that I don’t feel safe on the site and told them about loosing insane amounts - like half year’s salaries in one or two days.. ROLLBIT DONT CARE

If you feel unsafe with the casino site where you are playing, don't ever play there. If you have spent a lot of money there, then forget it, don't think about chasing it and getting it back. Just look for a site that makes you feel safe.
The casino will not hypnotize you to spend more of your money in the game if you have control and your limits. I know being trapped in an addiction is uncomfortable. but you already know the risks from the start in casino games. calm yourself and recover your finances gradually. Avoid all forms of gambling first. I'm sure you can do it.

[yahoo62278]

I agree with dkbit as far as it's not really the casinos fault you lost or had no self control. If you had proof you were cheated that's 1 thing, but just being upset over a loss doesn't make that the casinos fault.

If you could never win, why didn't you stop? or move on to a different casino?

[BTC Bridges]

Hello swagg87, No one makes you an addict except yourself, especially if you are old enough to be using the internet.

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.....I will keep up informing the internet about what’s going on this evil site to never let that happen to anyone again.

"I will keep up informing the internet about what’s going on"
Wow, if it was that easy to shut down online casinos then addicts would have shut most of them down by now, correct?

[acroman08]

Hey m8.. would love to but seems like with newbie status I’m not able to upload these.. i have all of them screenshotted including the ones talking about my heavy losses and they literally didn’t even reply on that at some point. Normally this should have been the last instance of cooling down phase or exlusion.

upload your screenshots on https://www.talkimg.com/ and then copy and paste the BBcode link they'll provide on this thread.

anyway, I still don't think there any kind of scamming happened, what happened is, that you gambled, got addicted, lost your money and now finding someone(in this case a casino) to blame. if you ask me, since you know that you have a gambling addiction, you need to find professional help right now.

[holydarkness]

I understand that on your chat with them, those that happens every two or three days, are all about you demanding an explanation why you keep losing and their rtp, of which they basically tell you that their game is provably fair and their rtp are calculated from so many variables that they can't tell you in specific how it got calculated?

Is there any part from your side that hinted the addiction?

Perhaps it'll be best if you provide those screenshots of conversation. Not all of the conversation that happens every two or three days [I assume we'll be flooded by hundreds of screenshots if this is true], the ones where you clearly shows hints of gambling problem will be nice. Don't worry much with inability to show the image, I or someone else overseeing this thread will quote those images for visibility.

[Stalker22]

I understand the frustration here, but ultimately we all have to take responsibility for our own actions.  Rollbit provides platforms for high-risk gambling, yes, but no one forced your deposits or big bets.  After multiple losses continuing to risk life savings seems unwise and  rather than accuse and assign blame, it may be best to reflect on what lessons can be learned so similar mistakes arent repeated.  There are always healthier paths forward.

Let me ask you just one thing: If it had been any other casino besides Rollbit, would you have realistically expected a different outcome in your case? Did you ever expect to come to an online casino with money and guaranteed leave with a profit?

We take responsibility in our actions correct- but ever heard about bad situation? And when things get worse people become addicted to things.. the one time use of cocaineat the party that becomes the worst nightmare in form of an addiction. You know this is considered as illness worldwide and I think this is why licensed casino have rules e.g. listening to someone who’s obviously not in control of what he’s doing in that moment. Otherwise as you mentioned he wouldn’t do such retarded things. 

I understand that addiction is a serious problem, and it sounds like you may have fallen into that trap with Rollbit.  But the thing is, licensed casinos do have rules, but they are designed to keep you gambling, not protect you.

We cant blame everyone else. Ultimately, our choices are on us.  Addictions rarely show up overnight; it is more like a slippery slope.  And bringing up hardcore drug addiction aint exactly comparable.  You dont turn into a coke fiend after one wild rager any more than you transform into a degenerate gambler after one bad beat.  Difference is, getting hooked on drugs also means your body starts depending on that stuff to even function.  So try quitting cold turkey and you will feel that in some ugly withdrawal.  That physical dependence makes kicking a drug habit way tougher than ditching something behavioral like gambling. 

[AHOYBRAUSE]

So, where is the provable scam?
You say you lost your money to the casino. You know who else does, maybe 90% or more of casino players. Of course the RTP is not as advertised, show me one site where it is.
Casino games are evil, especially "original" games on sites that have them. When I play them I NEVER have the advertised RTP, never. Sure people always say it's just a small sample size but when every single session starts with countless losses there will never be a big sample size because the money is gone WAY before you can even have made many bets.

Still no reason to make a scam accusation, I never did, countless others never did, because that's just how it is. When we lose money it's gone.
You said you complained a lot about the RTP in the chat support. So if you felt something was fishy, why the hell didn't you just stop playing there?? You can't excuse it with gambling addiction, because you could have simply went to a different casino if you felt this casino is cheating you. At a new place you can "keep living the dream".

Also, them "making you an addict" is not a reason for an accusation like this. For this you should take this situation in your own hands and seek help. Gambling addiction is the fastest grown addiction at the moment, for good reason. SO there is a lot of help you can find if you really want to.
Always see gambling as entertainment, not as a way to make money quick, it just doesn't happen, at least not for the vast majority of players.

[holydarkness]

So, where is the provable scam?
You say you lost your money to the casino. You know who else does, maybe 90% or more of casino players. Of course the RTP is not as advertised, show me one site where it is.
Casino games are evil, especially "original" games on sites that have them. When I play them I NEVER have the advertised RTP, never. Sure people always say it's just a small sample size but when every single session starts with countless losses there will never be a big sample size because the money is gone WAY before you can even have made many bets.

Still no reason to make a scam accusation, I never did, countless others never did, because that's just how it is. When we lose money it's gone.
You said you complained a lot about the RTP in the chat support. So if you felt something was fishy, why the hell didn't you just stop playing there?? You can't excuse it with gambling addiction, because you could have simply went to a different casino if you felt this casino is cheating you. At a new place you can "keep living the dream".

Also, them "making you an addict" is not a reason for an accusation like this. For this you should take this situation in your own hands and seek help. Gambling addiction is the fastest grown addiction at the moment, for good reason. SO there is a lot of help you can find if you really want to.
Always see gambling as entertainment, not as a way to make money quick, it just doesn't happen, at least not for the vast majority of players.

Actually, I think what OP tried to accuse here is Rollbit's "inactivity" toward the sign of his gambling addiction that made him lose a lot. He claimed that they should have seen the sign when he chatted with them, demanding explanation about RTP and their PV.

Depending on how he conveyed those messages on his chat, which he's yet to provide, and unless he brushed that topic, I don't think an agent can infer the signs if he just keep asking about those two. If I were the agents, I will most likely think he's just a disgruntled player who vent their frustration upon losing, and I've give my best to explain about how those two --PV and RTP-- works.


Oh and, OP, I'm conjuring your deleted posts back from the void you casted them away. I am sure you just accidentally deleted them?

In reply to Stalker22's post

We take responsibility in our actions correct- but ever heard about bad situation? And when things get worse people become addicted to things.. the one time use of cocaineat the party that becomes the worst nightmare in form of an addiction. You know this is considered as illness worldwide and I think this is why licensed casino have rules e.g. listening to someone who’s obviously not in control of what he’s doing in that moment. Otherwise as you mentioned he wouldn’t do such retarded things.

In reply to acroman08's post

Hey m8.. would love to but seems like with newbie status I’m not able to upload these.. i have all of them screenshotted including the ones talking about my heavy losses and they literally didn’t even reply on that at some point. Normally this should have been the last instance of cooling down phase or exlusion.

In reply to DabsPoorVersion's post

at this point it’s obviously you never had an issue with this point of subastance, also you did tried to make afford of thinking into someone..the act of loosing control can have a very large facets of actions - including spending money on things like drugs / gambling / over eating and whatever mate.. and its not about blaming .. I have, as expressed already, mentioned it many times that I don’t feel safe on the site and told them about loosing insane amounts - like half year’s salaries in one or two days.. ROLLBIT DONT CARE

[GxSTxV]

Well that’s what we call pure gambling addiction to spend ofer $100k in gambling waiting to win something back every time, I believe someone who has and can afford to gamble with that money should have money sources and be stable in his life, second, it’s about time and responsibilities since you are a mother of children, already know what is the definition of gambling, and kept losing her money intentionally.

I feel sorry for your kids and you, but it’s only your fault here with your awareness and will nobody forced you to keep gambling with that amount of money, you wasn’t just gambling in a casino, it’s worse, you was gambling with the future of your family. Take some responsibility, stop blaming others and take it as a lesson, move on and never do such a mistake again.

[holydarkness]

Well that’s what we call pure gambling addiction to spend ofer $100k in gambling waiting to win something back every time, I believe someone who has and can afford to gamble with that money should have money sources and be stable in his life, second, it’s about time and responsibilities since you are a mother of children, already know what is the definition of gambling, and kept losing her money intentionally.

I feel sorry for your kids and you, but it’s only your fault here with your awareness and will nobody forced you to keep gambling with that amount of money, you wasn’t just gambling in a casino, it’s worse, you was gambling with the future of your family. Take some responsibility, stop blaming others and take it as a lesson, move on and never do such a mistake again.

Umm... quite trivial but... I believe OP is the son, the one that's once proud and now admitted that her son [his words, I merely borrowed it] "fucked up" is his mother. OP is 37 years old fitness influencer and personal trainer.

[GxSTxV]

Umm... quite trivial but... I believe OP is the son, the one that's once proud and now admitted that her son [his words, I merely borrowed it] "fucked up" is his mother. OP is 37 years old fitness influencer and personal trainer.

Ah yes, thank you for this clarification, I had to reread the entire story once again to the end to understand. and what made me think the OP was the mother is this phrase:

. A mother that went from a proud mom to a : okay my sons fucked up, having depression and mental health issue that made me stop training for 4 months now.

It seems like his mother is disappointed, although I'm having a hard time to get it since if the OP was a very good son, 37 years old and a fitness influencer, I would expect from his mother to be supportive and help him fight his addiction not the opposite, abandoning him after his first fall. Up to what he wrote in the story, he doesn't admit his only fault which can be a sure sign of a bad addiction when you blame the casino for your losses.

I suggest for him to share his story on YouTube as an influencer, admitting his mistakes and addiction to warn people about the dangers of gambling irresponsibly. It could be a lesson for all. I believe that sometimes it's good to go public, and to have people who will support you through your tragedy and get back on your feet faster.