joya.casino biggest scam they scam me with 1145$

[acroman08]

it would have been so helpful if you could post images but seeing on your post that they block you from their chat before you can take any screenshots, I understand.

anyway, I checked the forum account of joya.casino's representative(joyacasino) and it seems like they visit the forum from time to time so I left a PM informing them about this thread and hoping they could give more info about your issue and perhaps get it resolved.

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it would have been so helpful if you could post images but seeing on your post that they block you from their chat before you can take any screenshots, I understand.

anyway, I checked the forum account of joya.casino's representative(joyacasino) and it seems like they visit the forum from time to time so I left a PM informing them about this thread and hoping they could give more info about your issue and perhaps get it resolved.

If they come here now and open my chat again i will post and show everything but they will never ever do that as they are scam people

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Anyone here knows any good lawyer for this case please?

[holydarkness]

Anyone here knows any good lawyer for this case please?

Do you mind to wait for a little while here when we try to deescalate the situation? I've reached them through PM and inform them about this situation. acroman08 did as well, several hours after me. I'll wait for a couple of more days before trying other means of contact to reach them.

If you still insist on going to go with the court though, then you're more than welcome to do it. Unfortunately I can't provide you a contact of good lawyer.

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Anyone here knows any good lawyer for this case please?

Do you mind to wait for a little while here when we try to deescalate the situation? I've reached them through PM and inform them about this situation. acroman08 did as well, several hours after me. I'll wait for a couple of more days before trying other means of contact to reach them.

If you still insist on going to go with the court though, then you're more than welcome to do it. Unfortunately I can't provide you a contact of good lawyer.

Its ok i can wait and thank you very much for help sir

[holydarkness]

Its ok i can wait and thank you very much for help sir

It's been a couple of days since my attempt to reach them through DM and we still heard nothing back. As promised, I am trying other ways to communicate with them and bring this case to their awareness. They don't seem to have a telegram group where I can notify them there, nor a TG contact that I can reach personally. Thus, I resort to their live support:



Let's hope this will get things back in motion.

[joyacasino]

Its ok i can wait and thank you very much for help sir

It's been a couple of days since my attempt to reach them through DM and we still heard nothing back. As promised, I am trying other ways to communicate with them and bring this case to their awareness. They don't seem to have a telegram group where I can notify them there, nor a TG contact that I can reach personally. Thus, I resort to their live support:



Let's hope this will get things back in motion.

Hello dear members,

This player placed his complaint on Casino Guru also, and we provided their Complaints representative with all the evidence regarding this case. We detected a big fraudulent activity from the player's side as he tried to use the hole in the system and unfortunately succeeded but just a bit. We've noticed that after we spoke with the payment provider that provided us with the history of the transaction of the mentioned player. He tried to find the hole in the system. This is the story: The player put the amount on our site 15sudt for the deposit, and on his wallet put the amount of 1098 usdt. Our system is made to show the the amount that is deposited and not that is got entered, so even though he enter the amount of 15ustd on the balance has shown the amount of 1098 and the payment provider "Coinspaid" immediately do the refund of the rest amount, so 1083 is getting back on his wallet and start playing with that amount on our site, which is a BIG fraud. He was also connected with another player from the same country who did exactly the same thing, so we've lost a lot of money regarding this fraud, so we declined their winnings and banned their account permanently. Unfortunately we are not able to attach the details here on the forum as those information are very sensitive and are not protected. We are not running away from this matter, and we will accept any complaint so we have all the evidence prepared. We would like from the player to notify our licensor Curacao, and we will react immediately because we are the damaged side.

Thank you for your understanding.

Joya Casino Representative

[holydarkness]

Hello dear members,

This player placed his complaint on Casino Guru also, and we provided their Complaints representative with all the evidence regarding this case. We detected a big fraudulent activity from the player's side as he tried to use the hole in the system and unfortunately succeeded but just a bit. We've noticed that after we spoke with the payment provider that provided us with the history of the transaction of the mentioned player. He tried to find the hole in the system. This is the story: The player put the amount on our site 15sudt for the deposit, and on his wallet put the amount of 1098 usdt. Our system is made to show the the amount that is deposited and not that is got entered, so even though he enter the amount of 15ustd on the balance has shown the amount of 1098 and the payment provider "Coinspaid" immediately do the refund of the rest amount, so 1083 is getting back on his wallet and start playing with that amount on our site, which is a BIG fraud. He was also connected with another player from the same country who did exactly the same thing, so we've lost a lot of money regarding this fraud, so we declined their winnings and banned their account permanently. Unfortunately we are not able to attach the details here on the forum as those information are very sensitive and are not protected. We are not running away from this matter, and we will accept any complaint so we have all the evidence prepared. We would like from the player to notify our licensor Curacao, and we will react immediately because we are the damaged side.

Thank you for your understanding.

Joya Casino Representative

Hi, thank you for finally coming here.

Do you mind to rephrase or perhaps ask someone else from your team to explain the details of the situation? I am sure I don't understand what transpires. I tried to see if your explanation on CG is more understandable, but when I made this post, that entry of yours is still made private.

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Its ok i can wait and thank you very much for help sir

It's been a couple of days since my attempt to reach them through DM and we still heard nothing back. As promised, I am trying other ways to communicate with them and bring this case to their awareness. They don't seem to have a telegram group where I can notify them there, nor a TG contact that I can reach personally. Thus, I resort to their live support:

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Let's hope this will get things back in motion.

Hello dear members,

This player placed his complaint on Casino Guru also, and we provided their Complaints representative with all the evidence regarding this case. We detected a big fraudulent activity from the player's side as he tried to use the hole in the system and unfortunately succeeded but just a bit. We've noticed that after we spoke with the payment provider that provided us with the history of the transaction of the mentioned player. He tried to find the hole in the system. This is the story: The player put the amount on our site 15sudt for the deposit, and on his wallet put the amount of 1098 usdt. Our system is made to show the the amount that is deposited and not that is got entered, so even though he enter the amount of 15ustd on the balance has shown the amount of 1098 and the payment provider "Coinspaid" immediately do the refund of the rest amount, so 1083 is getting back on his wallet and start playing with that amount on our site, which is a BIG fraud. He was also connected with another player from the same country who did exactly the same thing, so we've lost a lot of money regarding this fraud, so we declined their winnings and banned their account permanently. Unfortunately we are not able to attach the details here on the forum as those information are very sensitive and are not protected. We are not running away from this matter, and we will accept any complaint so we have all the evidence prepared. We would like from the player to notify our licensor Curacao, and we will react immediately because we are the damaged side.

Thank you for your understanding.

Joya Casino Representative

You are lying iam swear of my kids that iam not refund or get any email of refund from that provider (Coinspaid) go and check with them good if iam received from them any refund i will apologize and delete everything..

[holydarkness]

Hello dear members,

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Thank you for your understanding.

Joya Casino Representative

You are lying iam swear of my kids that iam not refund or get any email of refund from that provider (Coinspaid) go and check with them good if iam received from them any refund i will apologize and delete everything..

Any of you two --or better yet, both of you, as it's always nice to hear the whole story from both sides-- can you please tell us what transpires, preferably ELI5 mode, if it can't be in a good English? I am sorry, I am not trying to be condescending and insulting your English, but I really really don't understand what happens.

What is it with putting an x amount on deposit and put another amount [y] on wallet, and yet another amount being returned. Without these, I can't get a better understanding of what happens.

If anyone else understand what transpires, I will really appreciate if you would step in and explains to me.

[EarnOnVictor]

This is a sad story but I wonder why you guys will not learn. You left good casinos that are big and reputable with years of track records and minimal complaints and went for Joya.Casino, you guys cannot learn or be smart in thinking. If a well-established casino cheats me, I will accept my fate if my money can't be retrieved back having fully known that I was not gullible in my choice after all. I will only take it as part of life, but this is unlike the casinos which do not have that big name or track record, the risk of dealing with them is too high. Working with good names in many fields has helped me till today and despite investing online since 20 years ago, I am yet to be scammed by any. This is because I think well before commenting my money anywhere and I do my research thoroughly to minimize the cheating potential.

The way the casino acted is so unprofessional as well, and it truly proves that your money was never safe in the first place. Such a casino may only honour a small withdrawal but could give excuses not to pay a sizable amount. Everyone wants to open a casino business, that's the problem.

Hello dear members,

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Thank you for your understanding.

Joya Casino Representative

You are lying iam swear of my kids that iam not refund or get any email of refund from that provider (Coinspaid) go and check with them good if iam received from them any refund i will apologize and delete everything..

Any of you two --or better yet, both of you, as it's always nice to hear the whole story from both sides-- can you please tell us what transpires, preferably ELI5 mode, if it can't be in a good English? I am sorry, I am not trying to be condescending and insulting your English, but I really really don't understand what happens.

What is it with putting an x amount on deposit and put another amount [y] on wallet, and yet another amount being returned. Without these, I can't get a better understanding of what happens.

If anyone else understand what transpires, I will really appreciate if you would step in and explains to me.

Thank you for trying to help this guy so far and I feel for you to have been reading his English from the beginning till now. I can only suggest to the guy to find someone who would write the situation better for proper comprehension as his English is obviously bad and not helping the matter.

Notwithstanding, despite his English, I believe he was trying to say that he has already satisfied the condition needed for the withdrawal, so I think that shouldn't take us backwards anymore, even as Joya.Casino did not disagree with that. Nevertheless, what Joya.Casino alleged is not uncommon in a dispute like this, and as usual, no evidence is provided in that regard to truly show that the guy was guilty. Anyone can say anything to cover up something, talk is cheap, it's evidence that proves a fact.

As it is now, I think the OP should post all the initial support responses to be sure whether or not they tally with the claims of Joya.Casino or their claims are mere afterthoughts. What do you think?

[holydarkness]

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Notwithstanding, despite his English, I believe he was trying to say that he has already satisfied the condition needed for the withdrawal, so I think that shouldn't take us backwards anymore, even as Joya.Casino did not disagree with that. Nevertheless, what Joya.Casino alleged is not uncommon in a dispute like this, and as usual, no evidence is provided in that regard to truly show that the guy was guilty. Anyone can say anything to cover up something, talk is cheap, it's evidence that proves a fact.

As it is now, I think the OP should post all the initial support responses to be sure whether or not they tally with the claims of Joya.Casino or their claims are mere afterthoughts. What do you think?

What do I think? I think I am sure that OP were not trying to say that he's satisfied with the condition needed for the withdrawal, nor did he get any fund. The case was not yet resolved according to OP, quoted below the line, while joya claimed the exact opposite.

So, joyacasino, it will be very much appreciated if you can show the proof of refund. I believe it will not be too hard to procure a TXID for that said refund.

You are lying iam swear of my kids that iam not refund or get any email of refund from that provider (Coinspaid) go and check with them good if iam received from them any refund i will apologize and delete everything..

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Notwithstanding, despite his English, I believe he was trying to say that he has already satisfied the condition needed for the withdrawal, so I think that shouldn't take us backwards anymore, even as Joya.Casino did not disagree with that. Nevertheless, what Joya.Casino alleged is not uncommon in a dispute like this, and as usual, no evidence is provided in that regard to truly show that the guy was guilty. Anyone can say anything to cover up something, talk is cheap, it's evidence that proves a fact.

As it is now, I think the OP should post all the initial support responses to be sure whether or not they tally with the claims of Joya.Casino or their claims are mere afterthoughts. What do you think?

What do I think? I think I am sure that OP were not trying to say that he's satisfied with the condition needed for the withdrawal, nor did he get any fund. The case was not yet resolved according to OP, quoted below the line, while joya claimed the exact opposite.

So, joyacasino, it will be very much appreciated if you can show the proof of refund. I believe it will not be too hard to procure a TXID for that said refund.

You are lying iam swear of my kids that iam not refund or get any email of refund from that provider (Coinspaid) go and check with them good if iam received from them any refund i will apologize and delete everything..

Hi sir thank you very much for help me and iam sorry because my English not very well... by the way they can't show any proof of hash txid or any kind of proof because iam swear they are lying for everything

[robelneo]

Hi sir thank you very much for help me and iam sorry because my English not very well... by the way they can't show any proof of hash txid or any kind of proof because iam swear they are lying for everything

I'll back up for proof of refund, OP seems very confident that Joya casino cannot show a refund proof and if this is the case then Joya casino will lose its reputation, during a dispute you cannot lie if you lie to one you will to all of what you're saying, the ball is on Joya casino now to show the proof of refund and refute what OP is stating that he did not get any refund.

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Hi sir thank you very much for help me and iam sorry because my English not very well... by the way they can't show any proof of hash txid or any kind of proof because iam swear they are lying for everything

I'll back up for proof of refund, OP seems very confident that Joya casino cannot show a refund proof and if this is the case then Joya casino will lose its reputation, during a dispute you cannot lie if you lie to one you will to all of what you're saying, the ball is on Joya casino now to show the proof of refund and refute what OP is stating that he did not get any refund.

Hi Mr robelneo yes the ball now with them let them show me the proof 😃 .... about me iam sure 1000000% there is no hash ID or any kind of proof

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Hello everyone i got reply from Casino.Guru they said that i get refund and they closed my case.

Iam not get any refund and if iam not sure 10000% i will not swear of my kids bcz just 1000$ also if iam get my refund why i would go to provide and tell them that iam not get any refund and this screenshot of the reply of them and that was before days

Also i can give my Gmail account to @holydarkness
To enter to my account Gmail and let him see if iam really get any email refund or no

Also why joya.casino not show 1 proof that i get refund? Just why? Absolutely because iam not get my refund and they are lying

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[acroman08]

Hello everyone i got reply from Casino.Guru they said that i get refund and they closed my case.

Iam not get any refund and if iam not sure 10000% i will not swear of my kids bcz just 1000$ also if iam get my refund why i would go to provide and tell them that iam not get any refund and this screenshot of the reply of them and that was before days

Also i can give my Gmail account to @holydarkness
To enter to my account Gmail and let him see if iam really get any email refund or no

Also why joya.casino not show 1 proof that i get refund? Just why? Absolutely because iam not get my refund and they are lying

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would you mind sharing a screenshot of casino.guru where they said that you got the refund? the screenshot you currently share doesn't say that you have received the refund. also, when did they send this to you?

@joyacasino, the OP claims that casino.guru has ruled the case in his favor, are you planning to honor the decision casino.guru made?