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April 21, 2024, 12:03:06 AM
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War have causes millions of death around the world,forces people into extreme poverty as millions are displaced with no access to good food and water. Most times,what causes this conflict ranges from territorial disputes to regional tensions and terrorism.As war continues to grow worldwide whether it be in Yemen, Ukraine, or Gaza, the U.S Billionaire business men like Jim Taiches(Lockhead Martin corp), Gregory Hayes(Raytheon), David calhoun(Boeing), John Holland(General dynamics corp),Christopher.E.Christ(L-3 Technologies)continue to make Billions of dollars profit from sales of weapons,Rockets,missiles & Jets to conflicting nations. The United States of America been a major player to world peace have continued to sell destructive weapons just to make money.

https://businessjournalism.org/2023/12/war-profit/
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April 21, 2024, 12:14:31 AM
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Sure, it is not a secret those so called "security companies" profit much out the wars which involve directly or indirectly the United States or her allies in Europe. As the United States continues to send weapons and spend their arsenal in the ongoing conflict, it is obvious they need to replenish their weaponry, there is where defense contractors play their role in receiving mountains of money from the government and the taxpayers for them to continue to produce more weapons and ammonition.

The issue comes because those companies are privately owned or are publicly traded in the market of stocks. In the eyes of the western laws there is nothing illegal going on, actually, many conservative politicians would say those companies are very important commercial allies to keep the security of the government of the United States and her allies on the globe. It is not only about weapons either, those companies would also provide specialists and mercenaries for them to fight without directly involved the troops of a sovereign country.

It is sad to see war is a business, but I assume it has been for a long time now.

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April 21, 2024, 04:57:51 AM
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Americans aren't, the American regime and the small number of oligarchs behind the scene are.

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Production is mostly dead in America and as they say "The American dream is now made in China". That is why there is a gigantic trade deficit with China.
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War have causes millions of death around the world,forces people into extreme poverty as millions are displaced with no access to good food and water. Most times,what causes this conflict ranges from territorial disputes to regional tensions and terrorism.As war continues to grow worldwide whether it be in Yemen, Ukraine, or Gaza, the U.S Billionaire business men like Jim Taiches(Lockhead Martin corp), Gregory Hayes(Raytheon), David calhoun(Boeing), John Holland(General dynamics corp),Christopher.E.Christ(L-3 Technologies)continue to make Billions of dollars profit from sales of weapons,Rockets,missiles & Jets to conflicting nations. The United States of America been a major player to world peace have continued to sell destructive weapons just to make money.

https://businessjournalism.org/2023/12/war-profit/
These American businesses kept making money from sales of weapons to fuel wars in different parts of the world, while the US government ensured that no other country enjoyed the same freedom to produce. Any country that starts producing will be hit with sanctions to cripple the economy. Their claim is that these weapons are safer when it is produced in the US than in other countries. I wonder how safe these weapons are in the hands of the US and its allies when they are freely sent to Israel and used to kill innocent women and children in Gaza.

This idea might be weird, but if every country is allowed to produce military weapons at will, there might be peace in the world. When nations know that other nations have the kind of weapon they own, there will be restraints in attacking them. This is the case of the conflict between Iran and Israel. Israel attacked Gaza because they knew that they had better armoury but they were careful in dealing with Iran.

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These makes sense, otherwise what else would explain such news? - US House passes $95 billion Ukraine, Israel aid package, sends to Senate
These wars make the decision makers and politicians richer.
The taxpayers are paying a heavy price. You might think The United States is some sort of biblical Garden of Eden, but this is far away from the truth. Imagine being "homeless" in your own country, but your very own politician decide to give away your tax to "allies" instead of helping you out.


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April 21, 2024, 03:13:51 PM
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So, the ones who sell the guns are the ones to be blamed, but what about the ones who pull the trigger? If there were people willing to sell weapons, but no one willing to buy and to pull the triggers, there wouldn't be wars at all, and the sellers would be forced to find something else to work on for a living.

It's like blaming the devil for every bad choices humans make in life.

When you say americans profit from war and terrorism it sounds like the whole nation profits from that, while in fact, it's few individuals who have american citizenship who are involved in military stuff industry who profit from both sizes of a conflict. Moreover, the nation USA has heavily suffered the consequences of war and terrorism already along the decades, as we can see the attack to World Trade Center in 2001, and the following events in Middle East where thousands of americans died. There is no profit on it, rather only pain, suffering and financial losses.

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Much of the US profits from war and terrorism come from military machinery that is built. The machinery builders profit from what they build, and how they get payment from the US government. Government approves payment, because many of the government officials get kickbacks from military manufacturers.


Moment Rep. Mike Waltz holds up a $90,000 bag of insulator joints as stumped USAF Secretary admits he has NO IDEA such basic parts cost that much for taxpayers



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13325745/Mike-Waltz-bushings-air-force-military-overspending.html
US Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall suffered an awkward moment in Congress as he was stumped over a question about military overspending.

The military leader was questioned by Florida Congressman Mike Waltz over the 'exorbitant' amounts spent on regular inexpensive items, using a bag of bushings as an example.

Despite the small bag of electrical bolts costing average Americans around $100, Waltz said the military forks out $90,000 a bag.

'This is literally driving us out of business,' he said. 'The interest on our debt alone is now exceeding, for the first time in American history, the entire defense budget.'

Waltz began his grilling of the Air Force secretary by holding up the small bag of bushings, which only contained a handful of bolts.

'This, Mr. Secretary, is a bag of bushings,' he began. 'This bag of bushings, stamped out by machines, don't need a high school diploma, nothing high tech about this, all of this bag is compliant with the FAA specifications.

'How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?'

Kendall responded that he 'didn't know', leading Waltz to quickly clarify: '$90,000.'

Waving the small bag in the air, the exacerbated representative continued: 'This is a $90,000 bag of bushings, that you need for any jet turbine engine.'

Bushings are essential components of engines, and the small rotating parts are typically placed between joint mounts for vibration absorption, rotation support and thermal resistance.
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April 22, 2024, 09:16:01 AM
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Americans profit from selling weapons of war to other countries because these other countries needs American weapons to fight and defend themselves, if there's no demand for their war products, then they'll be out of business. If the US didn't start a war between countries, I think that it's very unfair to blame them for profiting in their business of manufacturing weapons, because every government allocates a chunk of their budget for weapons procurement. It's like calling the casket maker a bad name that he loves death, but they forget that he's still in business because people die everyday, and he's not the causes of their deaths.

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The trouble for America is, when other countries get American weapons of war, they reverse engineer them. People of other countries are not stupid. They simply have different mindsets, or they would have built the stuff themselves. The reverse engineering that they do, shows them the American mindset which made the weapons of war. These countries figure out how to make similar weapons on their own, and even better ones. Russia is an example of this. So is China in ways.

All that America is doing when they 'sell' their tech to other countries, is to lock in their own destruction. Other countries won't always simply fight against each other. As is being shown by BRICS, many of them are finding ways to unite against America. The technology that America has given them will ultimately become a threat to America.

People are people, everywhere. And they all want to be free and gain and hold as much property as they can. This can be seen in all the business that is being done in every country around the world. When America sends technology to other countries, they are only fueling their own destruction by those countries.

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It's not term as Americans but rather the dirty American regime and CIA gets profited by wars as they supply weapon to both the warring parties, it directly supplies weapon to its allies and so to the rival side as well but through third party. Guns and weapons are the reason why the wars and suffering are extending and they cannot continue without war. Iraq-Iran war was prime example.









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It's not term as Americans but rather the dirty American regime and CIA gets profited by wars as they supply weapon to both the warring parties, it directly supplies weapon to its allies and so to the rival side as well but through third party. Guns and weapons are the reason why the wars and suffering are extending and they cannot continue without war. Iraq-Iran war was prime example.

To be fair, I am not so sure these conflicts we are seeing nowadays have much to do with the CIA and other intellgence agencies earning money. In the end, the intelligence agencies like the CIA are funded by the money which is collected from taxpayers or the central government, they do not deal with weapons and of they do, they do it for the sake of providing with fire power to a faction which they are interested in supporting. It is what has happened in proxy wars where the United States has been involved in the past.
If we talk about profit and these wars we must rather look to European and American based weapon manufacturers and producers which have seen their stock value increased and the demand for their products stepping up from all this situation.

The United States sends their weapons to Ukraine and then for them to replenish all of it, they pay for those contractors. It is all about contractors and manufacturers pocketing the money of the taxpayers.

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Every country justifies war for geopolitical power. And every country has a dirty past. We should improve ourselves and our own countries instead of pointing fingers at others.

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^^^ Most of the time the reason is that the people trust propaganda lies of their leaders... who lie to make a profit of some kind.

Honest people play 'follow the leader'. Then they die in wars made by the leaders. Or they get wealthy through money stolen by the leaders... stolen from conquered countries. But most of the time they don't realize what is really going on.

That's what is happening in America. The people are taught in schools that they don't have the power to resist their leaders. And they are taught that the leaders are right, so why resist them. So, the people are destroyed or made wealthy in their ignorance.

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I’ve heard this before but looking at the extent things went with Palestine and Israel, I really don’t care who is making profit or not but hope that there is peace, I know complete peace cannot exists as conflicts will always find a way to arise, but at least peace enough to not cost the lives of innocent people. Most people who get killed in such wars they never really did anything wrong. They probably don’t agree with what their nation is doing, but it still cost their lives. Innocent children and all of that. It’s saddening.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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War have causes millions of death around the world,forces people into extreme poverty as millions are displaced with no access to good food and water. Most times,what causes this conflict ranges from territorial disputes to regional tensions and terrorism.As war continues to grow worldwide whether it be in Yemen, Ukraine, or Gaza, the U.S Billionaire business men like Jim Taiches(Lockhead Martin corp), Gregory Hayes(Raytheon), David calhoun(Boeing), John Holland(General dynamics corp),Christopher.E.Christ(L-3 Technologies)continue to make Billions of dollars profit from sales of weapons,Rockets,missiles & Jets to conflicting nations. The United States of America been a major player to world peace have continued to sell destructive weapons just to make money.

https://businessjournalism.org/2023/12/war-profit/
as sad as this sound, I can't deny the reality that there is every reason to believe this ascertion. You look at what happens during the Russia Ukraine war, there was little or no sympathy at all for human lives that's constantly going down everyday the war continues but you find massive support and sales of weapon to Ukrainian just to fuel the war. For what purpose is those weapons when peace should have been the best option?

We've seen how in several instances they've always made statement regarding there interest to send weapons to nations at war to help them fight there enemy when they should be supporting peace and standing strong against war. The United state stands as a strong nation in the world map whose influence affect the world globally and the least they should have used such influence in combating is to preach peace and stop this production and sales of weapons to nations at war. I guess the revenue they are generating from sales of weapons won't let them close there eyes to such opportunities and even if lives keep going down because of their consistency in supporting war and terrorism, it doesn't make much difference to them.

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It's not a secret to the world anymore that whoever triggers war, there's a sure hidden agenda that's being taken looked upon by that country. But pooya is right, it is not the Americans that are taking benefits here but the United States of America. There are many Americans that are for peace and they're even calling out their government to stop sending support and sending billions of money to those countries that are in the war and are about to get involved in the war. It's because many of their states have got a lot of citizens that are in need, veterans that needed to put attention of their budget, healthcare and other help that they need for themselves.
It's very simple that they're asking to help their people first before sending aid to other countries that are also calling for peace and not go to go all in war. But this is how these leaders understand how business works for the sake of the economy of the country. Ever since in the ancient times, war has been there but before it's all like territory matters. This time, it's about being superior economically and doing that through triggering a war and pushing some kids(small countries) to be brave enough as Uncle Sam is on their back willing to send help but in terms of selling them arms that they need to face that war that they're startling.

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I’ve heard this before but looking at the extent things went with Palestine and Israel, I really don’t care who is making profit or not but hope that there is peace...

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Anyone who truly wants for peace to exist and stay when comes to conflicts like this one is supposed to analyze and reflect on who is benefitting from these dire situations to perpetuate in the long term. If you dont know who is benefitting from this you may be protesting against the wrong people from the beginning, you know.
For example, there will be people who will choose to protest against the government of Israel for this war, but the government of Netanyahu depends on the weapons and the logistics being sent to them from the United States.

The government of the United States do not directly manufacture those weapons which are send to Israel, it is about private contractors which get paid billions of dollars of them to make ammo and equipment. In the end, the money which gets approved by the congress does not go overseas, it says in America and in the pockets of those CEOs and invertors which profit with weapons. They are the most likely to want this suffering to go on for the sake of their money.

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April 29, 2024, 04:29:36 PM
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Since, countries know that American profits for any war that break out from country to country, is be caused by American to make money from the war, but those countries are still going into war without trying to resolve the crisis among themselves so that the war will not break out for American to make money by selling  their weapons to the countries involve in the war.

I don't think American are happy about the war that is happening to some countries because they are into weapons business, doesn't mean they are the one causing the war because those weapons has helped many countries to recover their resources from the hands of their enemies, and some countries are using those weapons to protect their citizens.

I guess some countries are manufacturing weapons for their citizens to use without depending on American weapons, and they believe in their weapons more than any other weapons in the world.

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April 29, 2024, 04:39:14 PM
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So Russia, China, North Korea & Iran *do not* profit from war and terrorism? Rrrriiiggghhttt... Roll Eyes

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April 30, 2024, 07:57:25 PM
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I’ve heard this before but looking at the extent things went with Palestine and Israel, I really don’t care who is making profit or not but hope that there is peace...

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Anyone who truly wants for peace to exist and stay when comes to conflicts like this one is supposed to analyze and reflect on who is benefitting from these dire situations to perpetuate in the long term. If you dont know who is benefitting from this you may be protesting against the wrong people from the beginning, you know.
For example, there will be people who will choose to protest against the government of Israel for this war, but the government of Netanyahu depends on the weapons and the logistics being sent to them from the United States.

The government of the United States do not directly manufacture those weapons which are send to Israel, it is about private contractors which get paid billions of dollars of them to make ammo and equipment. In the end, the money which gets approved by the congress does not go overseas, it says in America and in the pockets of those CEOs and invertors which profit with weapons. They are the most likely to want this suffering to go on for the sake of their money.

I am not protesting. What I’m saying is that despite people trying to point fingers (which I am not doing), I hope that it will all stop because my thoughts are with the innocent people who have done nothing run and the children who are the most innocent but sadly, born into the wrongest of times. It’s not about the weapon, it’s about the man who pulls the trigger. The peace I hope for is one where despite having weapons, no one would be tempted to pull a trigger.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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