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April 29, 2024, 04:01:16 PM
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I also think that current new investors still don't have much interest in bitcoin because they hardly care about the halving and don't even know what it is. What they care about is wanting to see the price of bitcoin increase, so when the market goes up, bitcoin also goes up, that will be when we will have more new investors than now.
Indeed. New investors probably don't understand what halving is. The don't care about halving but they are curious if there are something to make Bitcoin price increasing. The new investors may tend to be more interested in the current news like Bitcoin adoption around the world and Bitcoin ETF. These things make more sense to raise the Bitcoin price for the new investors.

I think new investors are like a blank page, they don't know anything and don't spend much time learning everything so the only way to attract new people is to create Fomo. That's why when the price increase season comes, we will see on the market there are many hyped meme and shitcoin projects that create x100, x1000 profits in a short time. They will be attracted to those things and rush into the market with the hope of becoming rich. But after many losses with memes, they will gradually realize that bitcoin is the only reliable investment.

I believe new investors come to the market for altcoins, shitcoins for their hype rather than bitcoin, but then the majority will invest in bitcoin.

Halving is the most anticipated event for long-time investors because they understand that it will create positive impacts for bitcoin as well as the market. But for new investors, they don't know what it is, so attracting new investors at this time is not effective.
Old investors understand that halving isn't the only thing to increase the price. Halving is just a trigger for a high pump on Bitcoin price. However, the price won't suddenly skyrocket, it needs some months. Since they are the old investors that may experience some previous halvings, they know halving bring positive impact for the long run of Bitcoin price.


I have seen some threads asking about why bitcoin is not increasing in price even though the halving was completed in the last 10 days and I think these people are people who have never experienced a halving before . many investors are discouraged and may leave the market if bitcoin does not increase in price in the coming days , and that is why I say that at this time there are not too many new investors entering the market.  And the number of investors may also decrease temporarily at this time.

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April 29, 2024, 06:12:06 PM
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The halving was a major event that attracted many new investors to bitcoins, some started investing seriously some months to the halving just so to make some profit from it.The halving was what attracted them, but now that the halving has come and gone, do you think that the number of new investors will reduce for the now until the next halving is close again?
Many people rush to invest in Bitcoin immediately they have the information of Bitcoin having coming to manifest but they don't know that If halving May fail and also may not fail, so from my own perspectives the understanding of cryptocurrency we should not invest without investigation if you want to make a profit in cryptocurrency industry or cryptocurrency investment don't hesit to make a proper research before you invest many people lose their coins because they fail to understand the procedures of cryptocurrency and to know when to invest and when not to invest



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April 29, 2024, 06:41:30 PM
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Many people rush to invest in Bitcoin immediately they have the information of Bitcoin having coming to manifest but they don't know that If halving May fail and also may not fail
What do you mean by the halving may or may not fail. BTC halving is part of the BTC protocol and it must happen after every 210,000 mined blocks until all BTC's have been mined. The part where people want to make so much money after the halving is not a case of it failing or not, it is simply that people expect the price to immediately pump once the supply of new coins has been halved, and it always does not go in the way they expected.

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April 29, 2024, 07:30:41 PM
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The way I see it, there's still a lot of regulatory uncertainty surrounding bitcoin and many people don't want to invest because they need to be led by the hand by governments and regulators, so once these people are told what to do they will invest. The only thing that stops bitcoin from going into major adoption phase is time. Sooner or later every country will have to choose sides.
As for the halving, most people don't know what it is and don't care. Even a large number of traders don't go into details of every cryptocurrency they buy. They just look at charts, see a pattern that they like and buy and this comes down to buying when it's already going up to catch 20% of the move up and then short it when it's already past initial crash to catch another few % on the way down.

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April 29, 2024, 07:43:12 PM
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Many people rush to invest in Bitcoin immediately they have the information of Bitcoin having coming to manifest but they don't know that If halving May fail and also may not fail
AFAIK, there's no history of halving that it had failed. What do you mean about that? I don't think a lot of people thinking about its failure because it's just the block that will pass by and then the mechanism of the Bitcoin blockchain will automatically cut the rewards into half by reaching 210k blocks are mined as programmed.

I think the failure that you're saying is about the effect of it. Maybe that's the concern of the many people that you've seen worried about it.

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April 29, 2024, 07:52:00 PM
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Old investors understand that halving isn't the only thing to increase the price. Halving is just a trigger for a high pump on Bitcoin price. However, the price won't suddenly skyrocket, it needs some months. Since they are the old investors that may experience some previous halvings, they know halving bring positive impact for the long run of Bitcoin price.


I have seen some threads asking about why bitcoin is not increasing in price even though the halving was completed in the last 10 days and I think these people are people who have never experienced a halving before . many investors are discouraged and may leave the market if bitcoin does not increase in price in the coming days , and that is why I say that at this time there are not too many new investors entering the market.  And the number of investors may also decrease temporarily at this time.
I just experienced halving for the first time but I didn't ask about it Cheesy so I think there may be some people who have just experienced halving who ask about it but most of those who ask are those who really want to find rich momentum instantly not for the long term so that when halving occurs they will think that the price of bitcoin will accelerate quickly but in fact for now their initial expectations are not going well even though if you look at the current bitcoin movement it is still a bull run.

They do not have strong beliefs for the long term and only want to benefit quickly by utilizing the moment that occurs (in this case halving) which makes them always ask for an increase after halving even though when they are really sure about bitcoin I think they will be more relaxed because indeed their target is long-term.

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Old investors understand that halving isn't the only thing to increase the price. Halving is just a trigger for a high pump on Bitcoin price. However, the price won't suddenly skyrocket, it needs some months. Since they are the old investors that may experience some previous halvings, they know halving bring positive impact for the long run of Bitcoin price.


I have seen some threads asking about why bitcoin is not increasing in price even though the halving was completed in the last 10 days and I think these people are people who have never experienced a halving before . many investors are discouraged and may leave the market if bitcoin does not increase in price in the coming days , and that is why I say that at this time there are not too many new investors entering the market.  And the number of investors may also decrease temporarily at this time.
I just experienced halving for the first time but I didn't ask about it Cheesy so I think there may be some people who have just experienced halving who ask about it but most of those who ask are those who really want to find rich momentum instantly not for the long term so that when halving occurs they will think that the price of bitcoin will accelerate quickly but in fact for now their initial expectations are not going well even though if you look at the current bitcoin movement it is still a bull run.

They do not have strong beliefs for the long term and only want to benefit quickly by utilizing the moment that occurs (in this case halving) which makes them always ask for an increase after halving even though when they are really sure about bitcoin I think they will be more relaxed because indeed their target is long-term.

Not all newbies or people who have never experienced the halving ask this, just some of them. And I agree with you that those people are looking for quick wealth from bitcoin but things are not going as they expected.

But I want to ask you, do you feel worried when bitcoin does not increase in price and even corrects after the halving? A lot of people are confused and depressed because bitcoin is correcting and many are even starting to predict bitcoin will drop to $50k. I guess people who fantasize about getting rich quick with bitcoin when the halving happens will be very disappointed and are selling their bitcoins.

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The halving was a major event that attracted many new investors to bitcoins, some started investing seriously some months to the halving just so to make some profit from it.The halving was what attracted them, but now that the halving has come and gone, do you think that the number of new investors will reduce for the now until the next halving is close again?

If they just entered to make the one-time reap then the numbers will go down but I don't think once they tasted the profits it will be too difficult to give away that and wait too long, the urge to buy before the next halving will make them to stay. And it also won't affect the long term users either, cause they know bitcoin is going to rise no matter what, only people who entered at $70K might be thinking about cashing out and never come back.









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Only those who don't understand the Bitcoin ecosystem will lose confidence and may not get involved much because they would have thought their profit will surge post halving which doesn't way that way but it's been fed into people's mind that Bitcoin will increase their investment by multiple folds post halving. I don't think this would have huge impact.









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The halving was a major event that attracted many new investors to bitcoins, some started investing seriously some months to the halving just so to make some profit from it.The halving was what attracted them, but now that the halving has come and gone, do you think that the number of new investors will reduce for the now until the next halving is close again?

If they just entered to make the one-time reap then the numbers will go down but I don't think once they tasted the profits it will be too difficult to give away that and wait too long, the urge to buy before the next halving will make them to stay. And it also won't affect the long term users either, cause they know bitcoin is going to rise no matter what, only people who entered at $70K might be thinking about cashing out and never come back.
I think you are referring to traders. In the market there is a mix of two types of investors, short term and long term. In BTC market analysis, you will notice that as its price tends to rise, investors become more motivated and aggressive to buy. In this situation some traders enter and exit in short intervals and they keep coming back every season. And those who are long-term investors buy at the dips price as per their opportunity and continue to exist in the bitcoin market uninterruptedly and they are the ones who end up being the big holders.

Investors who are holding Bitcoin at the top price ($70K) I think most of them have their investment plans aimed at the $100k price and for the long term. I am only talking about real BTC holders here.
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Investors who are holding Bitcoin at the top price ($70K) I think most of them have their investment plans aimed at the $100k price and for the long term. I am only talking about real BTC holders here.
well, I was talking about the one who is new and entered at the market at 70K, definitely there could be lot of people at that time entered into the market because bitcoin was so hyped when it was happening although some may have retained what they bought but most of them who just thought of quick money called themselves as investors entered might likely exited when the price went down.









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I just experienced halving for the first time but I didn't ask about it Cheesy so I think there may be some people who have just experienced halving who ask about it but most of those who ask are those who really want to find rich momentum instantly not for the long term so that when halving occurs they will think that the price of bitcoin will accelerate quickly but in fact for now their initial expectations are not going well even though if you look at the current bitcoin movement it is still a bull run.

They do not have strong beliefs for the long term and only want to benefit quickly by utilizing the moment that occurs (in this case halving) which makes them always ask for an increase after halving even though when they are really sure about bitcoin I think they will be more relaxed because indeed their target is long-term.

Not all newbies or people who have never experienced the halving ask this, just some of them. And I agree with you that those people are looking for quick wealth from bitcoin but things are not going as they expected.

But I want to ask you, do you feel worried when bitcoin does not increase in price and even corrects after the halving? A lot of people are confused and depressed because bitcoin is correcting and many are even starting to predict bitcoin will drop to $50k. I guess people who fantasize about getting rich quick with bitcoin when the halving happens will be very disappointed and are selling their bitcoins.
It would be very naive in this situation to say that you are not worried especially seeing that the value of our portfolio is reduced from before (when we were at $71k) so there is clearly concern. But isn't this about belief? I once held back when buying bitcoin at a price of $50k in 2021 before it experienced a decline and i also felt like buying bitcoin at a price of $15k without caring and feeling worried about my previous purchase at $50k so that now i can still be said to have made a profit because I managed to buy at the price at range of $15k-$30k, even though now the price of bitcoin is $58k, I don't feel like I'm making a loss because I'm still making a profit from my previous purchase, so that worry can be reduced a little because even though at the moment the value of bitcoin is depreciating, the amount remains the same. and for the next few years it could be that prices like this are the lowest point during a decline so I don't worry any more because my goal is long term.

Bitcoin has experienced a rapid increase after being bearish last year so it is quite natural that in the end they will also have a correction and in fact this should not be a cause for panic because this could be a good momentum so that we can buy back bitcoin at a slightly cheaper price compared to previous price of $71k .

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The halving was a major event that attracted many new investors to bitcoins, some started investing seriously some months to the halving just so to make some profit from it.The halving was what attracted them, but now that the halving has come and gone, do you think that the number of new investors will reduce for the now until the next halving is close again?

If they just entered to make the one-time reap then the numbers will go down but I don't think once they tasted the profits it will be too difficult to give away that and wait too long, the urge to buy before the next halving will make them to stay. And it also won't affect the long term users either, cause they know bitcoin is going to rise no matter what, only people who entered at $70K might be thinking about cashing out and never come back.
I think you are referring to traders. In the market there is a mix of two types of investors, short term and long term. In BTC market analysis, you will notice that as its price tends to rise, investors become more motivated and aggressive to buy. In this situation some traders enter and exit in short intervals and they keep coming back every season. And those who are long-term investors buy at the dips price as per their opportunity and continue to exist in the bitcoin market uninterruptedly and they are the ones who end up being the big holders.

Investors who are holding Bitcoin at the top price ($70K) I think most of them have their investment plans aimed at the $100k price and for the long term. I am only talking about real BTC holders here.

Investors who hold Bitcoin for the long term know what it means to make real profits. When you make such an investment, daily, weekly and monthly movements of the market will no longer affect you negatively. This situation also includes an important detail in terms of human psychology. People who cannot wait after investing also experience psychological difficulties.

The two types of investors you mentioned are very different from each other. Those who aim for short-term profit and trading are very different from those who invest in the long term.

In response to the question asked in the topic title; I do not have a prediction about whether the number of new investors will decrease or not because the factors that determine this situation can change very quickly.

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May 02, 2024, 11:17:48 PM
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Yes, it's true, that rare events like this bring in some seasonal people who are looking for scalping, it's natural because most of the pump potential is more with altcoins also following other genres such as memes. I feel that even the slightest capital difference between the middle and approaching the halving feels quite different. I think anyone could take a crack at even just a few weeks. When you have passed this phase, I think it is time to leave when you are at a certain point (1/4 of the current price point or vice versa) and buy back in the lower area. And that's natural. I think this is normal for both new and old investors with a trading mindset, because my investment goal is to sell when the best price is maybe half (there is a difference between capital and profit).


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May 03, 2024, 01:23:56 AM
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Many people rush to invest in Bitcoin immediately they have the information of Bitcoin having coming to manifest but they don't know that If halving May fail and also may not fail
What do you mean by the halving may or may not fail. BTC halving is part of the BTC protocol and it must happen after every 210,000 mined blocks until all BTC's have been mined. The part where people want to make so much money after the halving is not a case of it failing or not, it is simply that people expect the price to immediately pump once the supply of new coins has been halved, and it always does not go in the way they expected.

Also put this into perspective. Not because Bitcoin is not pumping higher right after the halving means that the Bitcoin and its protocol behind it is failing. It just means that the price is not going anywhere for now. Because of halving, it also give more scarcity in the market and less supply into circulation. With bullish fundamentals on BTC while it's price is not rallying is just a good sign for a short term correction and consolidation. The market should go lower first before going higher. Once the rally higher start, it will continue until profits are in distribution phase for investors.

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May 03, 2024, 06:20:15 AM
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 Well from my understanding I think it depends on the season and how well they understand cryptocurrency, especially Bitcoin, during the bears some new investors who recently learnt about Bitcoin and have understood the concepts would see that as an opportunity to invest more more into to market so they will benefit when bull season comes and during the bull market at lot of people would rush to invest due to Fomo. Yes, Fomo has cause lots of investors to come into the market, especially those who doubt it's potential and where afraid to invest when the price dropped, when they notice a rapid increase in price they will have no option but to rush and invest cause they do not want to miss out on benefiting from the bull season.

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May 03, 2024, 09:41:15 AM
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The cryptocurrency market is going viral every day by day across the globe in which Bitcoin ETF approved attract new investors towards the industrial. Hence Bitcoin halving always occur every four years that makes all time high (ATH). Therefore Bitcoin new investors keep increasing as long the cryptocurrency market keep existing the more community keep expanding.

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The cryptocurrency market is going viral every day by day across the globe in which Bitcoin ETF approved attract new investors towards the industrial. Hence Bitcoin halving always occur every four years that makes all time high (ATH). Therefore Bitcoin new investors keep increasing as long the cryptocurrency market keep existing the more community keep expanding.

For the record though, approval of Bitcoin spot ETF might be attracted to whales only. For us retail investors, we should know how to take care of our precious Bitcoin, save it in a wallet that we have total control of.

And again, everything cyclical here, like the bull and bear cycle. So if there is a new investor being born every minute, then there could be investors who learn the tricks and become experience or there could be really quitting.

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For the record though, approval of Bitcoin spot ETF might be attracted to whales only. For us retail investors, we should know how to take care of our precious Bitcoin, save it in a wallet that we have total control of.
Whales first, retail investors later and it is the same for every cycle, and it's true for all markets, not only Bitcoin market.

There is nothing like "This time is different" because I was fooled many times like this. Who will believe in "This time is different", I don't know but for me, I won't

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And again, everything cyclical here, like the bull and bear cycle. So if there is a new investor being born every minute, then there could be investors who learn the tricks and become experience or there could be really quitting.
A market cycle must have both, the bull and the bear, bullish years and bearish years oppositely. Because without the bear, without accumulation, we will not have the bull. Without the bull, no new investors will join and no new capital flows into the market, price will drop and die with time.

Cycle? yes, check it first, I mean newbies, not you.

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May 03, 2024, 03:46:29 PM
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I just experienced halving for the first time but I didn't ask about it Cheesy so I think there may be some people who have just experienced halving who ask about it but most of those who ask are those who really want to find rich momentum instantly not for the long term so that when halving occurs they will think that the price of bitcoin will accelerate quickly but in fact for now their initial expectations are not going well even though if you look at the current bitcoin movement it is still a bull run.

They do not have strong beliefs for the long term and only want to benefit quickly by utilizing the moment that occurs (in this case halving) which makes them always ask for an increase after halving even though when they are really sure about bitcoin I think they will be more relaxed because indeed their target is long-term.

Not all newbies or people who have never experienced the halving ask this, just some of them. And I agree with you that those people are looking for quick wealth from bitcoin but things are not going as they expected.

But I want to ask you, do you feel worried when bitcoin does not increase in price and even corrects after the halving? A lot of people are confused and depressed because bitcoin is correcting and many are even starting to predict bitcoin will drop to $50k. I guess people who fantasize about getting rich quick with bitcoin when the halving happens will be very disappointed and are selling their bitcoins.
It would be very naive in this situation to say that you are not worried especially seeing that the value of our portfolio is reduced from before (when we were at $71k) so there is clearly concern. But isn't this about belief? I once held back when buying bitcoin at a price of $50k in 2021 before it experienced a decline and i also felt like buying bitcoin at a price of $15k without caring and feeling worried about my previous purchase at $50k so that now i can still be said to have made a profit because I managed to buy at the price at range of $15k-$30k, even though now the price of bitcoin is $58k, I don't feel like I'm making a loss because I'm still making a profit from my previous purchase, so that worry can be reduced a little because even though at the moment the value of bitcoin is depreciating, the amount remains the same. and for the next few years it could be that prices like this are the lowest point during a decline so I don't worry any more because my goal is long term.

Bitcoin has experienced a rapid increase after being bearish last year so it is quite natural that in the end they will also have a correction and in fact this should not be a cause for panic because this could be a good momentum so that we can buy back bitcoin at a slightly cheaper price compared to previous price of $71k .

Thank you for your honest answer, I believe there is no one who is not worried about what is happening and those who say they are not worried at all are actually liars. I'm just like you, my investment is still profitable as my average purchase price is between 35k$-40k$ but with bitcoin going through a correction phase, I can't help but be worried. I'm worried because my goal is for bitcoin to reach $150k or more this bull season and we all know that bitcoin is unpredictable. History may or may not repeat itself, so every time bitcoin corrects, worry is inevitable.

But I still won't sell any bitcoin until I reach my goal. I continue to be optimistic even this month even though many became pessimistic when bitcoin corrected towards $56K. I expect us to hit $100K this year and $150K by Q1 2025.

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