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April 23, 2024, 07:02:21 PM
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The local boards indeed contain many valuable discussions and topics that may be exclusive. However, why not visit these foreign local boards to try to learn their languages and understand and read what they write in their native language using one of the tools without attempting to contribute and engage with them in the discussions using automatic translation tools? Because your contributions are at a rate of 90%, it will be incomprehensible to some, as these tools are useless and violate the forum's rules.

If you have your own local board, you can participate in its discussions. You can continue these discussions until the end, answer their questions easily, and express your opinions that everyone there will understand without your posts looking spammy. Regardless of the local boards, English is the main language understood by everyone here, and undoubtedly, in multiple forum sections, you will find these discussions in English, and you can contribute to them.

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April 23, 2024, 07:06:27 PM
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As far as i know, if those country are not english speaking locality then you have to avoid them, you can read post from there with a translator but you must not use translator to reply there because you aren't going to write as the native speaker does. So whatmore?
If you find any local board post you wish to intrude on what they are saying here, I will say create a topic at the english board and quote it over there so that people can use english to discussed about deeply than you compromising yourself by trying to involved yourself in all local board just to have their discussions. So to avoid much drama don't involve yourself with other local board by posting there rather pick an interesting discussion over there make it with a topic in the english board.

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April 23, 2024, 07:07:05 PM
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You are free to visit any local board, whether you understand the language or not;
You are only allowed to discuss in the boards you are fluent with their language;
This is to minimise spam and low quality posts;
If there are interesting threads in your local board that is not in general forum, you can translate such thread to the general forum.

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April 23, 2024, 07:24:14 PM
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Is there any penalty resultant of a bitcointalk forum memeber to double Cross in accessing and also contributing to foreigners local board discussions?
There's nothing wrong in accessing and contributing to other local boards but you must do it without a translator. If it's a board you understand and can write on, go ahead with that. You aren't breaking any rule here. I've gone through a few local board discussions in the past because of some posters I was following so I could see how they also wrote in their local boards. There's that prompt at the bottom of local boards with option of translating whatever language to English language. I used that to understand whatever that was discussed but I never dared to post in them because that would be me using translator for it, and that's breaking a rule here.

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April 23, 2024, 07:26:15 PM
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Hmm that's pretty good to discuss it...
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with this, if you know how to write the language of the local board, then there is no problem in joining the conversations of these people. Yes, there is a point that the rules of BitcoinTalk must be followed, i.e., palagrasim or trnslate posts are prohibited, Apart from this, you have open permission, and can present your position in the thread of the local board. Because this is one of the contributions that members make to each other, that is, discussion on the topic. Respond in his local language.
 
I have seen many well-reputable members who are consistently engaging with the local board and contributing to it. In this regard, our moderator, Sir Xal0lex, who is a very capable and efficient member of BTT, regularly replays every member in our Pakistan Thread in local language, although he is not an Urdu native, he is able to do so in his local language according to his ability for which we are very grateful to Xal0lex, he keeps guiding us on every topic.

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April 23, 2024, 08:49:06 PM
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Currently there is Google Translate that we can use to make posts in other languages that we never use at all. It's not a problem if it doesn't deviate from the original topic, but if the person is careless and makes a post that goes off topic, just report the member to moderators, there is a report button below.



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April 23, 2024, 09:07:55 PM
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hope that is not a violation though. there are translate to English add-ons in our browsers these days.

the Nigerian local board writes their text in English which most probably everyone here had once tried replying. if they were just writing their local language or Fench i think we would not try to reply to their threads. and also they have interesting topics especially because a lot is going on in that country related to cryptocurrency. most of the time, we can relate.









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27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.
Never thought this rule really existed actually  so surprised  that  i didn't
even noticed it all along  but I need to ask a question about using this translator tool outside the local board section to reply a question  that's written  in a local language, does the rules  hold outside the LB section to avoid making any silly mistakes  which might eventually  earn a ban for a user Tongue ....
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There is no problem with that, just don't derail threads and posts randomly as if you're part of their actual local community. It's okay to ask and respect the local boards as they've got rules as well but in general, the forum rules are in effect.

but I need to ask a question about using this translator tool outside the local board section to reply a question  that's written  in a local language, does the rules  hold outside the LB section to avoid making any silly mistakes  which might eventually  earn a ban for a user Tongue ....
The rule is the rule. If you're a local and you want to translate something outside LB or from LB, do it with your capacity and not with any translation tool to avoid any problem.

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April 23, 2024, 10:54:55 PM
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The thing is if you speak and understand the language of other boards than you own local boards then it is not a problem to interact with them. We have seen reputable members frequently engaging in different local boards because they understand the language used there. Should you also find a thread or post worthy in a local board you can use translator to translate it for your personal consumption. What is prohibited is using translator to communicate within that local board. It shows you don’t speak that language and you don’t belong there
Exactly. If you are good in other foreign boards and you have brilliant ideas to share with others, then why not? Posting to other local boards is not prohibited, but posting on your own local board using any translator is a big violation in the forum. Otherwise, if you are consistently known doing this, you will be out in the forum in no time. Being aware of this will definitely help you stay in the forum longer, as long as you want.

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There are certain rules in the forum that must be obeyed and must not be violated, one of which is rule number 27 (Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ) which does not allow using automatic translation just to post translated content on Local boards. As long as you master a local language other than your own, there is no problem if you want to have integrity with members from other local boards.

I take the example of the thread created by GazetaBitcoin and fillippone, due to being hampered by other local languages, they asked other members for help in translating their best posts on different local boards to expand quality posts while also helping other members who are still hampered by languages other than their mother tongue. Your ability to master several other local languages can make it easier for you to express quality content on different boards, as long as other members can read and understand the contents of your posts, there is no penalty for you.

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Is there any penalty resultant of a bitcointalk forum memeber to double Cross in accessing and also contributing to foreigners local board discussions?
I thought of this because the pool of knowledge and learning is being way too broad and versatile which possibly I think that interested forum memeber can as well visit some foreigners local board and acquire some fact of knowledges maybe even have something profitable to contribute to the board as concerned.

I know I'll be next question how is it possible to cope with the foreigners local board since they specifically speaks their native language. So there I'll suggest using the translator and how about someone who has basic skills to be fluent with the language?
I'm just being optimistic about this because right in my local board, there are interesting discussions going right there which is not discussed in the general boards so I think we can as much also acquire to enhance our aspirations with our bitcoin investment and as well adopt some profitable everyday life lessions at the foreigners local boards.

Just a thought and hope that doesn't have room for breaking the forums policies and no penalty resultant?
Well what I know about this from all what I have read about the rules is that you must be able to speak the language and if you are good in the language then you can simply chip in their conversation and feel among, it's simple as ABC but there is particular rule in the community that prohibits google translate or any tools used for translation and besides it's always very different to write in language that you fluent even the translator makes some error sometimes.
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April 24, 2024, 08:02:06 AM
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Even if each country does not have a separate local board, each country has its own child board. If there is a child board, the members of that country should be posted in the local section of that country. If I am a citizen of a different country and post in another country, but I have to use translate in posting, but in that case, I cannot fully express my thoughts. If I can't fully express my thoughts, then the post will not be self-fulfilling at all.
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April 24, 2024, 08:04:03 AM
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@OP even though there's stated the forum didn't allow to use google translator, but the reality it's allowed.

But, make sure your post is genuine, not shitposting.

Example you're a Brazilian, you travelled to Korea and you want to ask how to use Bitcoin ATMs in Korea, you're allowed to use google translator.

But if your intention is to become a fake native speaker by using google translator, it's not allowed.
Thanks for this clarification, because I've often wondered that if a forum member wants to ask a genuine crypto related question in a foreign local board, probably planing to travel to the country or is infact in the country, that the barrier of not using translator to post in foreign languages will be a disadvantage. It's good to know that there's a clause to breaking the rules of posting in a board that you can't speak and write in their local language, it's only allowed if it's an important question that perhaps concerns your crypto transaction in their country.

I've always known that this forum is very organized and the reason for breaking a rule when you post in a foreign local board  is so you not to spam their board, but exceptions to the rule is when you're asking a genuine question that you need help from the locals.

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Is there any penalty resultant of a bitcointalk forum memeber to double Cross in accessing and also contributing to foreigners local board discussions?
I thought of this because the pool of knowledge and learning is being way too broad and versatile which possibly I think that interested forum memeber can as well visit some foreigners local board and acquire some fact of knowledges maybe even have something profitable to contribute to the board as concerned.

I know I'll be next question how is it possible to cope with the foreigners local board since they specifically speaks their native language. So there I'll suggest using the translator and how about someone who has basic skills to be fluent with the language?
I'm just being optimistic about this because right in my local board, there are interesting discussions going right there which is not discussed in the general boards so I think we can as much also acquire to enhance our aspirations with our bitcoin investment and as well adopt some profitable everyday life lessions at the foreigners local boards.

Just a thought and hope that doesn't have room for breaking the forums policies and no penalty resultant?

If they are multi lingual then its fine for people to visit multiple boards since everyone has a freedom to do what they want here. But if you are not a native speaker and you are just been amazed on how they circulate their merit on that local boards then maybe you should leave them alone. Since you will just create some mess especially if you really only on google translate.

If you want to contribute something go to your local board since I think for this that is the right venue to show some concern about something you want to share and help other people.

Its better not to cross board if you can't fully understand them since respecting each boundaries is important although there are times that we really want to help and for sure there's a lot of native speakers in forum will do that.

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I saw a similar thread from a week ago although, it was centered on participation using translators in events where you’ve been notified of a quote or something.

I think the forum remains OP to all once you can speak the language. I think it’s one means to identify with a local board and especially, when what affects them affects you.

That's right, I also thought about this topic. And a question for the OP: haven’t you read the other threads in this section?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5493609.msg63972002#msg63972002

Why ask self-evident questions? Sometimes it seems that for a character like you, it doesn’t matter what you create a topic about; the main thing is to flash before your eyes. But if you lack logic, answer by thinking: how can I or someone else be prohibited from visiting the local section of a language direction that is not ours? Accordingly, if you speak the language of the local section that interests you, you can communicate freely; if not, then the mistakes that Google Translator makes will be visible to native speakers, and they have the right to complain about you. This is a violation.

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As most people already suggested, it does not make any sense if you don't understand their local language, there is no reason for going there, the reason why there is local language is for other people to be able to express themselves freely and contribute without having language barrier, English is the most common and general official language, but not everyone understands it, they can engage on a discussion from the local board they belong to and freely communicate and discuss ideas without stress, but for a person that does not belong there, its nothing than violation as been said already by other members.



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April 25, 2024, 04:26:22 AM
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I think, you can make a contribution in other local board when you know how to write and speak their language, because they will not know that you are not from their country and there is no rules against that in the Bitcointalk. Local board are made for newbies to use their language to learn cryptocurrency from their local board to improve in the forum, because it will be very easy for legendary and hero members to make their newbies to understand some of the things they need to know in the local board to display quality post. But don't go other local board to mense up their local board or to make their local board have some negative record with your contribution, because they will not know that you are not from the local board, because you can speak their language and write which is happening in some local board which is not good to destroy others local board just because you know how to speak their language and write.

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The local boards indeed contain many valuable discussions and topics that may be exclusive. However, why not visit these foreign local boards to try to learn their languages and understand and read what they write in their native language using one of the tools without attempting to contribute and engage with them in the discussions using automatic translation tools? Because your contributions are at a rate of 90%, it will be incomprehensible to some, as these tools are useless and violate the forum's rules.

If you have your own local board, you can participate in its discussions. You can continue these discussions until the end, answer their questions easily, and express your opinions that everyone there will understand without your posts looking spammy. Regardless of the local boards, English is the main language understood by everyone here, and undoubtedly, in multiple forum sections, you will find these discussions in English, and you can contribute to them.
You can make a lot of valuable posts in your local board, as much as you can also learn to visit other foreign local boards and learn from their discussion. That is a good way to become familiar as well with their own language, or start learning as to how their foreign local boards discussion goes.

However, knowing English language is the universal language, everyone is expected to easily understand even in foreign local boards as long as you are also good in using English language. With that, if you can contribute meaningful insights to their own topics or threads, then the more reason that we should also start posting on other foreign local boards.

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April 25, 2024, 07:59:16 PM
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Those boards are mearnt for users to interact with each other & for all I know we have people that can speak and write in several languages which isn't against the forum , and not being fluent in a language is acceptable as it's a way of learning the language as far as I know, but I believe when you use this to use this to your advantage for gigs such as translation jobs and your language interaction isn't fluent then this is as good as defrauding the other party which will put you in trouble for sure..
Using a translator when posting in local boards are strictly prohibited. Otherwise, you might get banned in the forum without notice. However, if you tend to post to some other foreign local boards and explore their type of discussion and eventually learn from them, that is not discouraged in the forum. There are really these type of people who are still more fluent with other languages, and that’s quite an edge to some other forum members. And as long as you never take it for your own advantage, then you’re good to continue posting in the forum.

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