How has Satoshi's identity never been revealed ?

[boldfi]

Hello,

I'm wondering how Satoshi has managed to remain anonymous. Governments and high-level institutions have expressed interest in knowing his identity, and some have even tried to employ significant resources to find him, as evidenced by certain news reports.

However, Satoshi did use an account on this forum, along with an email address. All connections to this forum logged his IP address/user-agent and other digital traces.

His emails also surfaced during Craig Wright's trial. How is it that the email provider does not have IP and other information? Even behind a VPN, I believe that major institutions have the means to request the real IP from the VPN provider.

I don't want his identity to be revealed ! But I'm simply wondering how he has managed to evade the most powerful entities since 2010. Even with current anonymization technologies, the most prominent cybercriminals/activists get caught.

Forgive me if this topic has been covered or if it seems silly to you, but I am amazed by the myth of Satoshi

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[SamReomo]

Even with current anonymization technologies, the most prominent cybercriminals/activists get caught.

Yes, the cybercriminals get caught because they are criminals and they do something which harms others while Satoshi Nakamoto made something that has changed the world and that's why he's still safe from anyone's hands.

Satoshi was a true geek and he knew everything about the privacy, and anonymity, and when he created and released that anonymity and privacy he did it carefully so no one could actually know his true identity. I know that each organization has some predictions about him but no one actually know who Satoshi was.

[boldfi]

Even with current anonymization technologies, the most prominent cybercriminals/activists get caught.

Yes, the cybercriminals get caught because they are criminals and they do something which harms others while Satoshi Nakamoto made something that has changed the world and that's why he's still safe from anyone's hands.

I totally agree. But Satoshi's technology challenges financial institutions, and I believe they employ the same, if not more, resources to track him as they do to catch criminals. In any case, this story is fascinating.

[SamReomo]

I totally agree. But Satoshi's technology challenges financial institutions, and I believe they employ the same, if not more, resources to track him as they do to catch criminals. In any case, this story is fascinating.

They won't be able to track him because he hasn't left any trace of his doings. Anyone who's a cypherpunk knows how to doing getting caught and such a person would try each privacy enhancing mechanism to avoid others eyes.

He was truly a genius and that's why I don't think that anyone despite spending millions of dollars will be able to know his true identity. Even many cyber criminals who did wrong are still not caught, those aren't cyperpunks but Satoshi was, so now you should think on it yourself to see the whole picture.

[Yamane_Keto]

We know that he/they was/were using Tor, shy, cautious, and had enough experience to hide his identity, and what helped Satoshi is that talking about Bitcoin and interest in it began in 2013, 3 years after his disappearance, and it is difficult to find a service that records junk data for 3 years.

It was 2009-2010, not 2024. If Satoshi started Bitcoin today, it would be difficult for him to hide his identity.

[Marykeller]

I believe Satoshi had all this planned out, that there would be a time when people would like to find out the brain behind the bitcoin creation, however, staying anonymous would be best for him to disappear without a trace.

As it is, nobody or the government has been able to trace who is Satoshi for years. Anybody or organization that comes up with the puzzle of knowing who Satoshi is, has to convince every crypto believer beyond reasonable doubt that he has found who Satoshi is. First of all, let Satoshi sign a message with his wallet(doubt it will ever happen). That evidence alone will be difficult to come by. Even if Satoshi revealed himself to the world tomorrow, people would ask him to do that. For me to do that, he's bringing himself into danger and questioning because bitcoin is meant for one to stay anonymous via his or her identity

[hatshepsut93]

I'm not so sure that anyone knows Satoshi's actual IP address, if Satoshi knew what he was doing, and he most likely did, his actual IP address was hidden by many layers of obfuscation, including TOR.

And IP address is not the same as identity. It often links to identity if someone is using the Internet from their home, but if a public WiFi is used, IP won't reveal much,

[taufik123]

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And IP address is not the same as identity. It often links to identity if someone is using the Internet from their home, but if a public WiFi is used, IP won't reveal much,

This is what I also think, of course, as Satoshi will not rashly use the internet from his home to access anything.
And see how in hacker movies like Mr. Robot etc., all their access comes from cafes or public Wi-Fi, or they also use a lot of IP that will change in just a few seconds.

But I don't know how Satoshi could disappear without any trace, he had thought well about it not to leave any marks so he remained anonymous.

[dothebeats]

He basically knows how to hide his identity unlike most of the users of tor. He probably got that covered even before considering using it as a means to hide his IP. With the way he crafted bitcoin, and based on what others have stated regarding its code, it's pretty evident that Satoshi has a very deep understanding of the internet and computers, so its highly likely that he also knows he's literally untraceable despite being seemingly 'close' to getting discovered by some of his close associates when he was still actively working in bitcoin.

[Wiwo]

I think and believe that the strength of bitcoin is in satoshi identity and his silence os what have given bitcoin all it current values and position in the cryptocurrency Industry today,  so sure his hidden identity have helped the entire bitcoin ecosystem.

Nonetheless satoshi is just anonymous and since his development have not hurt anyone negatively the government won't be on the look out for satoshi.

[coolcoinz]

All investigations follow clues.

I'm sure that you heard about many murder cases that were never solved and missing people that were never found. Why is that? The answer to that question and the one you asked is the same. There were not enough clues left.

Many suspect that Satoshi died in an accident, so maybe one day this case is solved once and for all.

[Z-tight]

I know you are curious, but i don't like new posts asking about Satoshi's identity, it has been discussed so many times and should be put to bed by now. Satoshi was very knowledgeable in how to keep his identity hidden and a mystery for a long time, so we as bitcoiners should respect his decision to stay anonymous and forget about it.

If Satoshi is still alive and decides to actively return to the community, then we can ask him questions we have been eager to ask, but until then, let us contribute to BTC in our own way and leave Satoshi's identity be.

[aylabadia05]

I'm wondering how Satoshi has managed to remain anonymous. Governments and high-level institutions have expressed interest in knowing his identity, and some have even tried to employ significant resources to find him, as evidenced by certain news reports.

When using the internet, interaction occurs between the browser user and the server. But make sure the difference between using a public IP and a local IP.
I don't know how Satoshi actually did it so that until now he has not been revealed.

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And IP address is not the same as identity. It often links to identity if someone is using the Internet from their home, but if a public WiFi is used, IP won't reveal much,

Rarely does one pay attention to that now as long as the person is comfortable with online activities using the Internet. Another very frequent convenience of using mobile data.

[ChiBitCTy]

This stuff comes up all the time, to the pleasure and excitement of Theymos no doubt lol, but I forgot how much of this info was in the book Digital Gold.  I read Digital Gold right after "reading" (if you want to call it that) Mastering Bitcoin.  Before ever even thinking about owning any btc (I study too much sometimes).

What's so cool is I was talking to a buddy last night about the book, we just really kinda met in the past few months so talk about a lot of this stuff I talked about years ago with most buddies here..but I realize how little I knew at the time of reading that book. Going back and skimming some pages and highlighting some things to send him to show him some examples of what the book is all about, it discusses all this stuff.  Lot of talk around people I ended up getting to know, getting to chat with, being yelled at (hey Nick Szabo lol) ..just such a fun look back at how little I knew then compared to what I know now.  And becoming buddies with some of these pioneers, and even just having slight interactions ..just so happy to be a tiny speck a part of it.  I think we all are, or at least those who are here for more than just sig money and bountys and whatever else that's money involved.  Sure I'm here for that, but that's secondary.  

Anyways, pick up the book Digital Gold, you wont regret it!  (oh and I always thought Satoshi registered bitcoin.org and that somewhere a company had his real info, but it was Sirius who did that at his request.  Satoshi thought of freaking everyting!)

[Sandra_hakeem]

It was 2009-2010, not 2024. If Satoshi started Bitcoin today, it would be difficult for him to hide his identity.

That's just the truth. He, they knew too well the verdict and decided their fate way earlier than anyone realized what they did (even though it was a good project). Why did SATOSHI suddenly disappear just when everything was set to run for the next decade?
You know what? I always feel he's/they're still at the corner - maybe with different identities entirely..
^{It's a shame that the governments are all out for any project that either grant a user's freedom maintains their privacy.}

And IP address is not the same as identity. It often links to identity if someone is using the Internet from their home, but if a public WiFi is used, IP won't reveal much,

TOR onion browser is already a privacy guarantor...enhh, but they could also be curious to know him/them? Unless they didn't even care about the users personality as well.

[Distinctin]

Even with current anonymization technologies, the most prominent cybercriminals/activists get caught.

Yes, the cybercriminals get caught because they are criminals and they do something which harms others while Satoshi Nakamoto made something that has changed the world and that's why he's still safe from anyone's hands.

Satoshi was a true geek and he knew everything about the privacy, and anonymity, and when he created and released that anonymity and privacy he did it carefully so no one could actually know his true identity. I know that each organization has some predictions about him but no one actually know who Satoshi was.

Satoshi has seen this coming that’s why he’s smart enough to plan all these things ahead in time. And by staying anonymous and out from the spotlight is part of his plan. Regardless of what the government is thinking about him, but the fact that he’s innocent and has not done wrong any criminal act, then there’s no reason that he’ll be force to show publicly. However, thinking if he has remain alive or not, that’s until now is still uncertain.

[nelson4lov]

My best guess is that Satoshi used a pseudonym that is not connected to his original identity along with other documents like email and other accounts that does not directly link to himself. My biggest Q, however, is not how he managed to do it but how he knew that he'd have a target on his back for launching a novel technology like every other founder that has exist before him. Based on how hard it has been to decipher his identity, I'm pretty sure he planned it from the onset and not like it just happened halfway during Bitcoin's launch.

[famososMuertos]

At this point in the game it is in a way a lack of arguments to ask those questions, it is like entering a church and asking why Jesus is on the cross, there is someone who does not know, or perhaps someone wonders, Messi, Michael Jordan, etc. They're the bests players, really, how they did it... (  . )

Anyway, one of the intrinsic values of bitcoin is Satoshi's anonymity.

[Alphakilo]

Satoshi Nakamoto new what he wanted. I am writing under the assumption that "he" acted as an individual and not as a "group". Nothing in his email to Hal says that he were a group. If he was, he wouldn't need Hal's help with the Bitcoin code. He would have sorted it out with his team. This is another reason why staying anonymous and disappearing from the scene worked effectively. If they were a team, one team member would have rattled them out for few hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[Rabbitqt]

It was 2009-2010, not 2024. If Satoshi started Bitcoin today, it would be difficult for him to hide his identity.

That's just the truth. He, they knew too well the verdict and decided their fate way earlier than anyone realized what they did (even though it was a good project). Why did SATOSHI suddenly disappear just when everything was set to run for the next decade?
You know what? I always feel he's/they're still at the corner - maybe with different identities entirely..
^{It's a shame that the governments are all out for any project that either grant a user's freedom maintains their privacy.}

And IP address is not the same as identity. It often links to identity if someone is using the Internet from their home, but if a public WiFi is used, IP won't reveal much,

TOR onion browser is already a privacy guarantor...enhh, but they could also be curious to know him/them? Unless they didn't even care about the users personality as well.

Stop spreading this lie. TOR with default settings doesn't protect anyone from anything. TOR nodes can be easily monitored for traffic, thus de-anonymizing anyone who hasn't set up TOR correctly.

We need to move away from .onion routing and use I2P.

Satoshi's anonymity primarily stems from the fact that people only began to care and search for the identity after the fact. Initially, when it was just an idea or a meme internet currency worth very little, no one paid much attention to the identity. By the time the majority wanted to know more, many clues had already been lost to time. Additionally, Satoshi's privacy knowledge further contributed to maintaining anonymity.