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April 28, 2024, 08:52:52 PM
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A society without classes, private ownership, and where resources are shared by all.
If you are in crisis and have a caring heart, then I suppose you can make such a society even if you are not in a crisis and want to build communism you still need caring-hearted people. Otherwise, without taking classes I don't think people would ever accept their lifestyle and emotions. As people are full of bad and good behavior they want to achieve more and show more, some are spending hell of lot of money on their weddings to show that they are higher class. They are not allowing there child to marry another class child.

Everyone has set their rituals, in order to follow them, I don't think communism which you are seeking is achievable at least in this world I don't think. Well, I watched a movie I think name is star trek strange new world where every crew member has work to do, and everyone is living on the fact that they are contributing to the society (ship) they are living in. So Kind heart and full resources are needed in order to build a society where everyone is equal. In that society there should be no government or politics and without these both, a society can't survive in this world.

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April 28, 2024, 09:06:07 PM
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A society without classes, private ownership, and where resources are shared by all.
From my opinion, the simple word I can use in describing communism is distasteful cause from my opinion I dislike communism being practice in a society. I will make use of different example like, a learned citizen will get same job opportunity like that of the illiterate or rather why will a respected citizen get equal portion compared to others. Note any society practising this will be ranked as a low value society in essence making people look weak, in the economy aspect, how can the economy or society grow when everyone is offered same job opportunity irrespective of different standards sharing value. Although communism can be of help to low standard citizens cause in our society today most people get deprive from carrying out certain activities and job but I still don't think our society need communism now but rather a structure must be set first different from communism
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April 29, 2024, 03:59:56 AM
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It has already been, several times during the 20th century and so far in the 21st century. And as it usually happens, one thing is theory and another is practice, and in practice what it does is to cause famine, political repression, death everywhere and an exodus of those who are able to escape from such a system.

The paradoxical thing is that the more it fails and the more people it kills, the better reputation it seems to have, especially among intellectuals.

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April 29, 2024, 04:18:16 AM
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A society without classes, private ownership, and where resources are shared by all.
In my opinion, the system envisioned by the community is just a utopia, the best state system is democracy, no one has absolute power and anyone can become a leader, but the failure of democracy is that often people who are incompetent in leading become leaders

China, North Korea and Russia are examples of countries that implement a communist system. Indeed, we see that their countries are quite strong, but the people do not find freedom, especially in financial matters
All countries that set as their goal the construction of communism slipped into authoritarian states. Communism is good in theory, but its principles do not work in practice. Perhaps human society is simply not ready for this form of building society. To build communism, the level of development of society and the material well-being of each of its members must be very high. There must also be a completely different consciousness. I don’t know whether we will achieve such a development in our civilization as to set the goal of building a communist society. For now, this remains only a dream for romantics. I don’t yet see such opportunities in the foreseeable future. If humanity continues to fight for its existence, then we will never see a communist society.

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April 29, 2024, 11:34:21 AM
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A society without classes, private ownership, and where resources are shared by all.
Keeping in view the recent mindset,thinking and political ambiance that builds up the atmosphere of country itself failed to set up a system based on unequal wealth distribution as in communism the far most and worse most approach for society to grow.

Now the communism is somewhat rather all a bad approach cause there is no wealth distribution among middle classes families means it's simply eradicate their racial and wealth conditions

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April 29, 2024, 12:42:17 PM
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Nations like China and Vietnam are far better than some capitalist countries.

Neither is a communist country when it comes to the economy.
China is a self-declared "socialist market economy" there is nothing communist about their economy anymore.
If you want to look at how great China was doing in a truly communist era look at the millions killed by Mao , China grew only when it copied a free market economy and abandoned all that stupid shit about shared ownership.

Some communist nations treat the poor better than capitalist nations.

Economic model =/= political regime!

Hasn't that already been realized, just not yet realized in every country? The reason is, several countries oppose this ideology. Especially for pro-American countries, it is unlikely that these countries will accept communist ideology. The cold war between America and the Soviet Union or what is now Russia, which began at the end of WWII, is still very much felt today. Initially, communist ideology was widely accepted in various countries, especially in the ASIA region, but because the United States continued to try to crush every communist movement throughout the world, its influence on other countries was reduced. The US succeeded in preventing the wider spread of communism ideology.

Communism failed everywhere because people stopped caring about commie propaganda when they were hungry for decades.
Nobody could give a rat's ass about the US when we toppled our regimes in Eastern Europe, we had enough of hunger, cold, persecution, and lack of everything. Universal healthcare? Yeah, it was free, free to go to a hospital and die in a bed without blankets let alone medicine.

Communism is a nightmare, only the ones who haven't lived one day in it still dream of this idiocracy!


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April 29, 2024, 03:12:09 PM
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A society without classes, private ownership, and where resources are shared by all.
Communism is one of those types of political ideologies that works on paper but doesn't work in practice. Because for it to work there has to be no corruption involved, and let's face it, there will always be corruption involved.

Just take Russia for example, instead of it being the spitting image that communism works, instead is the pinnacle of why it doesn't perform as it is intended when it gets emulated in real life. A central power killing of everyone and anyone who would dare try to pry the scepter and the throne away from his hands, kids and women starving, men being sent to war against their wishes, birth rates declining faster than an old grandma falling off a long flight of stairs, and economy that's as flimsy as the roblox Robux economy.

So yeah. Communism works when there are no dirty hands involved, but as we all know, dirty hands will always be involved no matter what, and instead of resources being shared by all, and no social classes being present, the only thing that happens is that, no owns shit except the government, and the only one that's benefitting from this is the government.

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April 29, 2024, 03:17:05 PM
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A society without classes, private ownership, and where resources are shared by all.

Communism will look great theoretically but every country that followed communism failed and the only country that is still following is Cuba which is struggling for everything and now they relaxed from their policies which let foreign investors to come in and promote tourism to feed something instead of starving. I do want to see it to be successful but we need to accept the fact it's not possible to bride the gap between rich and poor.









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April 29, 2024, 07:53:58 PM
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A society without classes, private ownership, and where resources are shared by all.
Communism has been well implemented by lots of countries both in the past ans even until the present. Personally I don’t think communism will solve the world problems in fact it might just worsen it.

Equal resources won’t be enough to others. The human nature is to be greedy thus will surely increase corruption and other illegal activites. The government power would be solely on those who are distributing the resources.

Communism in this age is totally unacceptable.Humans are never satisfied and every human being would like to be better than his/her counterpart.Why is the members of the community supposed to share wealth that the government or community creates.Normally,the governments don't create wealth,rather the efforts and hardwork of individual/members of the Community is what increases the and prospers the community.
Secondly,why would the the government decide to share her properties or wealth eitherways.
Presently,its going to be difficult for any country that decides to share her resources because there wouldn't want to be and have the same societal influence and benefits otherwise.

A communist system renders no competition amongst citizens,there's absence of too much drama amongst the people,but its also an unwise decision as it has struggles and challenge to handle.

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April 29, 2024, 08:24:41 PM
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A society without classes, private ownership, and where resources are shared by all.
Communism has been well implemented by lots of countries both in the past ans even until the present. Personally I don’t think communism will solve the world problems in fact it might just worsen it.

Equal resources won’t be enough to others. The human nature is to be greedy thus will surely increase corruption and other illegal activites. The government power would be solely on those who are distributing the resources.
That’s the bitter truth that n most cases, nothing really ever works.

Most of the systems to governance and the terms that defines them really haves it’s resting place in just the word as, they never really materialize in the life’s of the governed. They never really work as corruption always turns out to be the order of the day.

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April 29, 2024, 10:01:09 PM
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The only thing communism would ever do is for everyone to be ignored equally. It was never an idea that could be applied to reality since each person is their own unique individual. Our own uniqueness, no matter how small or vague, exists and will continue to do so no matter what.

It also doesn't leave room for competition which is the key thing for improvement. After all, no incentives would mean that to damn working hard, they'd probably just breathe their day in and day out without doing much. Plus, inherently fighting what you are would leave a lot of people rebelling against it, so it'd probably take decades and a lot of bodies before such an idea is even implemented properly, if there was even a proper way to do it.

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April 29, 2024, 10:15:10 PM
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A society without classes, private ownership, and where resources are shared by all.
And everything is owned by its government and its leaders? Realizing how people living like in a cube that they don't allow to get out of it or they're being instructed what to do.

Yes, in terms of life being and commodities are provided but you have to realize that you're working hard for those. There goes the taxes and other services that we do for the government and that's more than enough for them to give back to us through basic necessities.

But in a society that you don't have a say and you'll get punished if talk and do something against them or worst your everything will be taken by them, do you like that?

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A society without classes, private ownership, and where resources are shared by all.
Human nature prefers competition.
Humanity comes with innovations and evolves out of necessity and competition, things that in theory the communism doesn't bring.

Even more, almost half of my life was under communism and I can tell you that sharing and equality were huge lies: sharing meant nobody had almost anything (even food was scarce) and equality meant that the higher ranks of the party were living in luxury while the commoners were the ones working and getting no benefit at all on their work. The real result of communism was that people got used with laziness and theft.

So no. Communism is a bad idea and it's not something that could work with humans.
I think the reason on why we compete is because we think there is already higher than us. There is really anyway and they are the rich people for example. But what if we follow what the guy above you have said that all resources will be shared?

I think that will help for the lower class to feel the equality and there will be no more competitions after it. This is only too good to be true though because rich people won't do it just like that, as they also work hard for their stuff and maybe the reason on why poor are poor is because they procrastinate. So, we can just let them experience an easy life as it looks so inappropriate. We need to teach them a good lesson instead.

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A society without classes, private ownership, and where resources are shared by all.

It will never happen it is a fantasy.

Think of the 6 foot 4 stud of a man that can do 2x the work of a smaller person.  It is hard to justify  equal rewards go to the guy doing 1/2 the work.


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Communism is not only possible, but also inevitable. This is the next stage in the development of humanity and at the same time a return to the roots (in primitive societies, communism was widespread as the only available form of existence). If we abstract from external symbols such as the red flag and the hammer and sickle, then in modern Europe there is much more communism than there was in the USSR in its best years.

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A society without classes, private ownership, and where resources are shared by all.

Communism may have been practiced in the past by some Asian countries but now it only exist in idealogy not in practice because some of those Asain countries only have them as a standard but in practice they can't keep to the detects of it. China for instance as those that the history said it practiced it is now more of a socialist country. There are acquisition of personal properties also and the egalitarianism has been fading off over the years and I think this is the effect of acculturation and modernity which every country and continent is having a wave of it.

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This is a question which I have seen being asked before in other places on the internet dedicated to political discussion.
I personally believe communism seems to work on paper and thanks to its implementation, it would seem to be possible to tackle many of the humanity problems and improve society as a whole.
Though, in reality when communism is to be tried on an actual society, then it is when many of the human vices create friction and end up destroying what it was supposed to work in paper.

Communism needs a central authority to distribute the wealth which is created by the people, there is where corruption kicks in and start to ruin the system by creating a new dominating class which is always made of the same people to hold the political power.
It is different when we talk about other systems like democratic capitalism, then money and power can be together but not always, in socialism they always do.

Added to it has been proven in many previous instances how the creation of wealth can be very inefficient for that same corruption of the system, leading for people to have a bad quality of life compared to other countries with other systems.
It is a very broad topic, I can't summarize it easily with a post.

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Greed is not the only reason why we have capitalism.

We are simply not equals.

“Person A” is a lazy dumb fuck. The only thing he does is playing video games, eating and sleeping.
“Person B” is smart and hardworking. He is capable of building stuff.

Communism steals from “Person B” and gives it to “Person A”. When “B” experiences it, he stops being productive because he realizes he is not getting paid enough for his efforts. Then he also becomes like “A” waiting for the free stuff.

Basically communism uses “B” as a slave to keep “A” alive. The long term outcome is to equalize everyone on being retarded.


That’s the problem.

Your point is accurate and that is what I also believe. We do not have capitalism because people are greedy and want to exploit others. Infact, it is the opposite of that assumption because the government which puts communism in place wants to exploit those who are hardworking to encourage the lazy ones. Everybody should work and get what they deserve. Government only need to create an environment that encourages hardwork. Communism at some point will make citizens over depend on government and that slows down the pace of development.
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