All people Should have the right to own Guns in our Society

[riqo]

Guns have to be just in the hands of mentally stable people, everyone mentaly stable must have the right to have a gun, that means that we need replace the guns paper permit to a psychiatric exam to evaluate the future gun owner, with this solution we wont be a dystopian society!

[passwordnow]

My logic there is, you're a law abiding citizen but you anticipate that something might happen to you. Just as the hitmen that carry weapons, you also carry one so you might attract the same judgement. That's for me and what I believe so, quite confusing but this world is crazy. But I know that we have to protect ourselves with any potential danger but I wouldn't chose to go with hand on hand combat through guns. I'm a coward, I'll just avoid and run any potential danger while and until I can.

Shot in the back while running.     

And I'd day without knowing who killed me but hey, it's in the city where a lot of houses are in each other and a lot of blocks that the shooter can't find me easily. Just kidding but yeah, that's the likely the scenario but I'd live on what I am believing about living with what I have and how I'd die.

If you have a license gun then it becomes for self defense, and not for illegal activities. There are some people that the moment they lay their hands on guns, they get possessed by the gun, and do all sort of evil with it.

That's why it's still a weapon that can do harm more than the good. Because even if you use it for self defense, it's either you will be hit or the person that's trying to attack you. But as crazy as it seems nowadays, we have to protect ourselves but for someone like me, I'm glad that I am living in a neighborhood that there's not a lot of gun owners or I just don't see them because they're hiding in the shadows and they don't want to get revealed that they're owning one. Thus, if they do, then they're all responsible gun owners.

[BADecker]

My logic there is, you're a law abiding citizen but you anticipate that something might happen to you. Just as the hitmen that carry weapons, you also carry one so you might attract the same judgement. That's for me and what I believe so, quite confusing but this world is crazy. But I know that we have to protect ourselves with any potential danger but I wouldn't chose to go with hand on hand combat through guns. I'm a coward, I'll just avoid and run any potential danger while and until I can.

Shot in the back while running.     

And I'd day without knowing who killed me but hey, it's in the city where a lot of houses are in each other and a lot of blocks that the shooter can't find me easily. Just kidding but yeah, that's the likely the scenario but I'd live on what I am believing about living with what I have and how I'd die.

If you have a license gun then it becomes for self defense, and not for illegal activities. There are some people that the moment they lay their hands on guns, they get possessed by the gun, and do all sort of evil with it.

That's why it's still a weapon that can do harm more than the good. Because even if you use it for self defense, it's either you will be hit or the person that's trying to attack you. But as crazy as it seems nowadays, we have to protect ourselves but for someone like me, I'm glad that I am living in a neighborhood that there's not a lot of gun owners or I just don't see them because they're hiding in the shadows and they don't want to get revealed that they're owning one. Thus, if they do, then they're all responsible gun owners.

There is a lot to be said for your attitude. I mean, loving the shooter so much that you would rather be maimed or killed than kill or maim. But what about your family? If the shooter comes into your house and wants to kill your children or parents or brothers and sisters, are you going to say, "Have at it, shooter?" And especially when your dying kids say, "Daddy, it hurts bad."

[passwordnow]

And I'd day without knowing who killed me but hey, it's in the city where a lot of houses are in each other and a lot of blocks that the shooter can't find me easily. Just kidding but yeah, that's the likely the scenario but I'd live on what I am believing about living with what I have and how I'd die.

There is a lot to be said for your attitude. I mean, loving the shooter so much that you would rather be maimed or killed than kill or maim. But what about your family? If the shooter comes into your house and wants to kill your children or parents or brothers and sisters, are you going to say, "Have at it, shooter?" And especially when your dying kids say, "Daddy, it hurts bad."

I understand where you are coming from but I am in a place that I can't think of something like that and that's why my attitude is like that. But I am very much open with the scenarios that can potentially happen to me if ever I visit some unknown neighborhood and places for me. I don't want to think that much about my family but I knew how it feels to lose someone with that scene because I've lost one brother of mine but fortunately, not with this kind of violence but more of a peaceful passing away. And that's what I am believing until now, I'm living at peace without owning one but who knows if I retaliate if somebody tries to do harm on me. I might run as I've said or I might have my revenge, I don't know because I don't want to think about it and I am just cherishing the peaceful living of this place that soon I am going to live. They're not warfreak and triggerhappy but it's a different ambiance that I don't like either and that's why I am just living and adjusting to them. But I won't ask for more compared to almost every neighborhood that owns a gun.

[BADecker]

And I'd day without knowing who killed me but hey, it's in the city where a lot of houses are in each other and a lot of blocks that the shooter can't find me easily. Just kidding but yeah, that's the likely the scenario but I'd live on what I am believing about living with what I have and how I'd die.

There is a lot to be said for your attitude. I mean, loving the shooter so much that you would rather be maimed or killed than kill or maim. But what about your family? If the shooter comes into your house and wants to kill your children or parents or brothers and sisters, are you going to say, "Have at it, shooter?" And especially when your dying kids say, "Daddy, it hurts bad."

I understand where you are coming from but I am in a place that I can't think of something like that and that's why my attitude is like that. But I am very much open with the scenarios that can potentially happen to me if ever I visit some unknown neighborhood and places for me. I don't want to think that much about my family but I knew how it feels to lose someone with that scene because I've lost one brother of mine but fortunately, not with this kind of violence but more of a peaceful passing away. And that's what I am believing until now, I'm living at peace without owning one but who knows if I retaliate if somebody tries to do harm on me. I might run as I've said or I might have my revenge, I don't know because I don't want to think about it and I am just cherishing the peaceful living of this place that soon I am going to live. They're not warfreak and triggerhappy but it's a different ambiance that I don't like either and that's why I am just living and adjusting to them. But I won't ask for more compared to almost every neighborhood that owns a gun.

This that you say is good.

Guns are for hunting or target practice (competitions). If everybody viewed it this way, and if everybody was safe in their use and storage of guns, we wouldn't have threads like this one.

If 100% of the populace owned guns, most of them wouldn't use them against other people. But the bad shooters don't know this. So, just the knowledge that everybody had a gun would scare them into not using theirs in a bad way.

If nobody else had a gun, the bad shooters would never stop. Why not? They wouldn't have fear of anybody except those few like themselves.

Most people don't have guns. But bad shooters don't know who has one and who doesn't. So they are fearful enough to not try to find out the hard way... by using theirs. Rather, they go to places like schools, because they know there aren't any guns there. They know they can get away with it there. Of course, with all the school shootings in the last few years, schools now have special protection. And the bad shooters know it.

[uneng]

Guns have to be just in the hands of mentally stable people, everyone mentaly stable must have the right to have a gun, that means that we need replace the guns paper permit to a psychiatric exam to evaluate the future gun owner, with this solution we wont be a dystopian society!

I agree with you. Not everyone should be allowed to own guns in our society, because not everyone is in sane conditions to take a responsability like that. We have already seen unstable people commiting carnage at schools and public areas due to past traumas they couldn't solve, so they became cold serial killers, while others neglected their guns, storing it carelessly, so their children had access to it and ended accidentaly hitting themselves or people around.

It's definitely not possible to allow everyone to own guns. A rigorous mental exam is a must, so the risks of having the situations mentioned above can decrease considerably, while allowing mentally stable people to defend themselves and their families, when necessary, if they wish to have a gun under their possession.

[passwordnow]

And I'd day without knowing who killed me but hey, it's in the city where a lot of houses are in each other and a lot of blocks that the shooter can't find me easily. Just kidding but yeah, that's the likely the scenario but I'd live on what I am believing about living with what I have and how I'd die.

There is a lot to be said for your attitude. I mean, loving the shooter so much that you would rather be maimed or killed than kill or maim. But what about your family? If the shooter comes into your house and wants to kill your children or parents or brothers and sisters, are you going to say, "Have at it, shooter?" And especially when your dying kids say, "Daddy, it hurts bad."

I understand where you are coming from but I am in a place that I can't think of something like that and that's why my attitude is like that. But I am very much open with the scenarios that can potentially happen to me if ever I visit some unknown neighborhood and places for me. I don't want to think that much about my family but I knew how it feels to lose someone with that scene because I've lost one brother of mine but fortunately, not with this kind of violence but more of a peaceful passing away. And that's what I am believing until now, I'm living at peace without owning one but who knows if I retaliate if somebody tries to do harm on me. I might run as I've said or I might have my revenge, I don't know because I don't want to think about it and I am just cherishing the peaceful living of this place that soon I am going to live. They're not warfreak and triggerhappy but it's a different ambiance that I don't like either and that's why I am just living and adjusting to them. But I won't ask for more compared to almost every neighborhood that owns a gun.

This that you say is good.

Guns are for hunting or target practice (competitions). If everybody viewed it this way, and if everybody was safe in their use and storage of guns, we wouldn't have threads like this one.

If 100% of the populace owned guns, most of them wouldn't use them against other people. But the bad shooters don't know this. So, just the knowledge that everybody had a gun would scare them into not using theirs in a bad way.

If nobody else had a gun, the bad shooters would never stop. Why not? They wouldn't have fear of anybody except those few like themselves.

Most people don't have guns. But bad shooters don't know who has one and who doesn't. So they are fearful enough to not try to find out the hard way... by using theirs. Rather, they go to places like schools, because they know there aren't any guns there. They know they can get away with it there. Of course, with all the school shootings in the last few years, schools now have special protection. And the bad shooters know it.

I agree that guns should be used mainly for target practice. I've seen issues about hunting and some of the incidents have become viral because it's not necessary to hunt specifically for endangered species. But what can we help with that? Nothing. Whatever the gun owners do wanna do with their guns, they'll do it. If it's for target practicing and it has become a hobby, that's much better but we don't hold the emotions of every gun owner and that's where the other harmful incidents start to happen.
It's true that most people don't have guns just like me but this is really a situational matter for most of the people especially those that are in a dangerous neighborhood. I don't know which state it is on the US to be specific and other countries as well. I hate it when I see news that there's a shooter that amok in schools and able to take down innocent lives. They shouldn't do it or if they wanna do and they lose their emotions and intellects, better not to harm anyone and do it to themselves.

[BADecker]

^^^ The point is that there will always be bad shooters with guns. What is the only way to combat them? Guns in the hands of good people. Government - police - is way too slow to stop bad shooters.

We are luck when there are enough good people with guns around us, so that we don't have to have guns if we don't want them.

[coolcoinz]

Guns have to be just in the hands of mentally stable people, everyone mentaly stable must have the right to have a gun, that means that we need replace the guns paper permit to a psychiatric exam to evaluate the future gun owner, with this solution we wont be a dystopian society!

The problem here is you'd have to check every gun owner each year because you can in fact develop mental illness later in your life, after passing your gun tests and owning it for several years.

Personally I love guns and if I had to choose between two extremes of nobody owning a gun and everybody owning a gun, I'd choose the latter, but I agree that a gun is a double edged sword. Having it at home gives you a sense of security and allows you to defend yourself, but it's a dangerous tool that can cause accidents. You leave it in the open and your child shoots someone, or you get scared of something and fire, thinking there's an intruder, but it could be a drunk neighbor who came back from a party and entered the wrong house.

You can't take back time once you fire at someone.

[Hispo]

^^^ The point is that there will always be bad shooters with guns. What is the only way to combat them? Guns in the hands of good people. Government - police - is way too slow to stop bad shooters.
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So if government and police are too slow as a solution to deal with bad people with guns, how come many of the safest countries within the first world and the civilized nations are those who have heavy restrictions on the ownership of guns by their citizens?
Take Japan for example, people there are not allowed to have guns because of the treaties signed after the defeat of the empire of Japan in the second world war, and yet, the rates of violence in Japan are very low, so is crime in general, mass shooting as non-existant when compared to the United States, etc. They do not have handgins and seem not to need them.
Though, there is no doubt there is bad people and criminals in all places in the world, but it would seem the criminals in Japan could be having a rough time trying to arm themselves and paying premium prices for ammo, instead in USA where it is as easy as buying candy when one has turned 18 years old.

The unhinged weapon culture in that country is part of the problem which could lead to tragedies like that we all saw in Uvalde two years ago.

[Riginac111]

There is some statement that is not suppose to be discussed in this platform because it is only the military people that have the last sense that is authorized to make use of arms and ammunition so individual or civilian it's not authorized to make me use of gun so I don't know why this discussion is coming to this place because we are not a military school so I think let us try to bring up what is reasonable and what that we profit us in future

[GideonGono]

Nope, not everyone could control their self so I don't agree with it.
So many people could easily be triggered so it would really be scary if everyone would have a gun.
Just imagine having a KAREN or Racist near your place would really be scary for everyone in the neighborhood.

[FinePoine0]

The fear of rising crime in our society is no joke and can't be ignored.This is why All people should have the rights to own Guns.

One can protect oneself,one's family and not bend down to anybody.

Possession of firearms often reduces home robberies and assaultive crimes like rape both by family members and strangers.

They are excellent tools for protection and self- defense.

Agree or Disagree

https://secondamendmentcenter.org/people-should-have-the-right-to-own-guns/

Since your country has the highest number of criminals then you must use weapons in self defense, but the weapons must be licensed. And of course the government should keep the people of its country calm and reduce the crime rate, all these things will be controlled by the government. Because it is the duty of a government to govern the people of its country properly, I agree that it is better to use licensed guns for self defense and family protection if the number of bad and dirty people increases in the area.

[Bushdark]

Guns have to be just in the hands of mentally stable people, everyone mentaly stable must have the right to have a gun, that means that we need replace the guns paper permit to a psychiatric exam to evaluate the future gun owner, with this solution we wont be a dystopian society!

I have noticed that gun crime have increased in the United States and it was due to the liberty for  common citizens to have their own guns. The government have to tackle ways on limited the right to the use of guns and ammunitions by citizens.
Crime would always increase with time when it seems like everybody is holding a gun which could be a sense of self defense but that might be more than that. Some still use it for atrocities and cause conflicts to others.

[BADecker]

Guns have to be just in the hands of mentally stable people, everyone mentaly stable must have the right to have a gun, that means that we need replace the guns paper permit to a psychiatric exam to evaluate the future gun owner, with this solution we wont be a dystopian society!

I have noticed that gun crime have increased in the United States and it was due to the liberty for  common citizens to have their own guns. The government have to tackle ways on limited the right to the use of guns and ammunitions by citizens.
Crime would always increase with time when it seems like everybody is holding a gun which could be a sense of self defense but that might be more than that. Some still use it for atrocities and cause conflicts to others.

Gun crime hasn't increased. The thing that has increased is the advertising about gun crime. When you look at all the criminal gun activity, ALL OF IT, you will see that it's the use of guns that have stopped crime more than making crime.

Government wants to disarm the people. People without guns are no threat to a wicked, evil government. So, this same government that advertises that Trump is bad, is advertising that guns are bad.

It would be a wonderful world if there wasn't any criminality. But that isn't going to happen. Let's stop gun crime at the source; good people with guns stopping that bad people.

Google "police brutality" and see how many hits you get; hundreds of thousands. Millions? Are cops good? Some are, just like any other people. But bad cops often use their authority to do bad things. Do you want to be unprotected from those bad guys who have guns?

[Hispo]

Nope, not everyone could control their self so I don't agree with it.
So many people could easily be triggered so it would really be scary if everyone would have a gun.
Just imagine having a KAREN or Racist near your place would really be scary for everyone in the neighborhood.

Funny enough, I think people in the United States has grown used to it, having a very pissed off neighbor who happens to own a lot of guns as well, and they do not pay any attention to it. It is fascinating how gun culture in that country works, in your country, if you had someone like that in your neighborhood and if you knew they got weapons within their reach, then you would never dare to get close to them and you may event feel tempted to call the police on them and their family, but in the USA he is just enjoying his second amendment right, in the same way you could, if you wanted.
It is possible to live in a peaceful neighborhood where all people there happen to own guns, there is where the good versus bad gun with a gun debate kicks in.
The law does not care whether one is a good or a bad person, as long as one has not committed a crime, there is entitledment to have guns, the only failure in that system is how bad things and shootings are supposed to happen first, before one can identify who the bad guy is.

[JMBitcointernational]

The fear of rising crime in our society is no joke and can't be ignored.This is why All people should have the rights to own Guns.

One can protect oneself,one's family and not bend down to anybody.

Possession of firearms often reduces home robberies and assaultive crimes like rape both by family members and strangers.

They are excellent tools for protection and self- defense.

Agree or Disagree

https://secondamendmentcenter.org/people-should-have-the-right-to-own-guns/

Op sincerely I don’t support this ideas of people having guns in their homes because it will increase the crime in the society . Possession of firearms by unauthorised persons does more harm than good and can lead to turmoil and constant killing of innocent citizens . I don’t really know your country maybe This might work well in your country but in my country I will not advice any government to allow everyone to have access to firearms because it will surely lead to disaster .Most times politicians will give out gun during an
election to political tugs and after election the innocent citizens will be in danger because of constant violence, robbery and vandalism, however ,Op I totally disagree with this your idea.

[BADecker]

All people Should have the right to own Guns in our Society


The title says "All." What does 'all' mean? It means ALL.

There are 3 classes of people who shouldn't be able to own or even touch guns or weapons - US, basically. They are:
1. Violent criminals who have been convicted of violent crime, with or without using a gun;
2. Politicians running for office or already in government office;
3. Military people, as long as they are inside the borders of the country.

An addition would be police, based on two things:
1. Only if the local people allowed their police to have guns;
2. Only within the borders of the locality wherein they were authorized as police.

The only exception would be the county sheriff and his(her) deputies. They could own all the guns they wanted.

The general public and the populace should be required to own guns, as long as they didn't fall into one of the above classifications of people who couldn't own or touch guns.

[coolcoinz]

3. Military people, as long as they are inside the borders of the country.

So they're not supposed to train. In case of a conflict they're given a weapon for the first time in years and asked to go and shoot someone with it.

An addition would be police, based on two things:
1. Only if the local people allowed their police to have guns;

It would be literally suicide to work as a police officer. You wouldn't have a gun but everybody else would, but it's you that works in law enforcement. How are you going to enforce anything facing an armed criminal while being unarmed yourself? Also, imagine the police officer being able to carry a gun at home but not at work.

[BADecker]

3. Military people, as long as they are inside the borders of the country.

So they're not supposed to train. In case of a conflict they're given a weapon for the first time in years and asked to go and shoot someone with it.

If that's the only thing you can think of, please don't own a gun yourself.

An addition would be police, based on two things:
1. Only if the local people allowed their police to have guns;

It would be literally suicide to work as a police officer. You wouldn't have a gun but everybody else would, but it's you that works in law enforcement. How are you going to enforce anything facing an armed criminal while being unarmed yourself? Also, imagine the police officer being able to carry a gun at home but not at work.

That's the point. You simply dropped the part where I said:

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The only exception would be the county sheriff and his(her) deputies. They could own all the guns they wanted.

The general public and the populace should be required to own guns, as long as they didn't fall into one of the above classifications of people who couldn't own or touch guns.

What are military people? What are police? They are people. Sure, they are trained. But anybody can be trained.

By the time the police get there, the crooks are long gone... by far, most of the time. If the people had guns, the crooks would be taken care of on the spot. Why can't an average citizen use plausible deniability, "I feared for my life," like the cops do?

The Sheriff is in the Constitution; the police are not. Let's do it the way it is supposed to be done:
1. No standing army in times of peace;
2. The militia (citizenry) as military, having the guns;
3. Get rid of the expense of police who mostly just antagonize the citizenry.