Does it mean the poor can't breath anymore?

[EluguHcman]

I can not go back in fishing out related thread like this and also ones that hi higher forum members has bashed on the newbies because of their unlearned posting styles here in the forum, that is to say I got you rightly Op but remember some newbies can actually be ignorant and refusal to adapting to the forum expectations of its users to be sensibly creative with their posts including following the forum policies and not one of the social medias where everyone has their rights to just act and posts whatever they chooses.

So I don't see any wrong about it If a junior memeber is told that the post is not in the right board and I have not come across such corrections being told in a hash manner maybe you can provide us link to such because whatever learned member of such categories does not seem so learned to me know quite well the beginning point and the professional points in the forum.

As much as I know learning is a gradual process and can not be comprehend. Right about it we can even find some high ranked memebers with disappointed post ought not to come from such ranked memebers so, everyone is liable to make mistakes.

Talking about mocking and bashing memebers who does not have their English on accordance,  we should be aware that English is not a language that a must speak so it could be a borrowed one to some persons in as it may affect some forum memebers to be fluent with it.

[Fiatless]

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From your write-up, I can see you are speaking out of anger. Someone might have attacked you in a way that you don't like, or something triggered that. Judging from your words, I bet when you have the opportunity to be in the position of some of the members you are calling out, you might even do much worse than them because you aren't calm in your words. They don't sound like someone who is trying to pass a message to others. It's as if you are ready to fight back against anyone who is attacking you if you are given the opportunity.

I think the op has a point but your approach is wrong. You have to learn how to transfer information without being rude to your target.

Sometimes people assume that many newbie accounts are not really new members or that such posts are made to fish merit so they become exposed to attacks and criticism. But some of us also fail to understand that in the process of these attacks, some real newbies who truly needed to be guided become victims. We might be irritated by the repetitive questions or posts that they make but we will keep seeing these questions in the Beginners and Help section as much as new people are still registering.

As for me, I have decided not to be harsh to anybody even if I am not comfortable with his post because you might be attacking a newbie who needs help. But newbies who have failed to learn and keep asking irrelevant questions need to be cautioned to avoid spamming. Others that have bad intentions like scamming, shilling, and others should be rebuked without mercy.

[Stable090]

Yes I have read some post where some of the beginner are mostly being attack due to inability to understand how the forum works, and for them to ask some question they needs clarification but at last got attack.

If you are not ready to be criticized, then it’s just better you don’t post here. If you are a beginner and you ask a question and you are being attacked, as long as you are getting the answer to your question, you shouldn’t feel bad as long as you have gotten what you need. The forum is a public place, and anyone can respond to you however they like. Some people might sound aggressive, but that shouldn’t be your problem, you should be focused on what you want to learn.

either by saying your post doesn't belong here and there, low quality post, lack of English, poor English, etc. okay, must everyone be a graduate as you are? No

Telling a newbie that he or she posted on the wrong board is a correction, so that next time the person will check what he or she is posting and will know the appropriate board to post on. If everyone keeps quiet and everyone is allowed to do what they want, do you think the forum will be functional like it is currently? You complained about lack of English or poor English, if you are posting on the forum here and people don’t understand what you are talking about, how will they be able to respond to you? Nobody is asking anyone to speak fluent English, but you should be able to communicate in a way that everyone will understand you. If you can’t speak English, then you can just visit your local board, where you will be able to communicate in your local language.

[Z390]

Yes I have read some post where some of the beginner are mostly being attack due to inability to understand how the forum works, and for them to ask some question they needs clarification but at last got attack. I am not against of anyone attacking each others but let it be a way that everyone including the newbie has some little air space to breath than in every single discussion you would see those who calls themselves overall rank would come attack, either by saying your post doesn't belong here and there, low quality post, lack of English, poor English, etc. okay, must everyone be a graduate as you are? No

So, Yes they are new people I know they are and (you that is reading this post were once a newbie) and as then you didn't know it all right? Even if one happens to go check your post history there would be lot lapse and mistake on your profile which would contain lot of shit-post and you started from a step before what so called rank you have achieved currently that is ringing your f**king brain as  if you are superior to everyone. My dear you gat f**k down your anus and give people space to understand forum gradually with the way they think is best for them, correct people but no attack if you are attacking then what true messages are you passing after knowing the true vision of Bitcoin and its representatives.

Correct without hate words, learn without offense, and speak with love. By so doing everyone would be welcomed to the community!
Thank you all.

I understand where this is coming and you did have a point, some members on this forum do take things too far at times but here is a truth that you should know too.

Some newbies deserve it, they are so annoying that they will keep making the same mistake over and over, there was one who had like 25 activities on his account and every post was related to the same point, all he or she did was repeat it over and over, meanwhile the owner already gotten answered many times already.

If you know someone who behaves like this what will you do? This is just one of few that I have seen on this forum, even I who was also a victim of harshness on this forum had to talk back to that account owner.
Even if you are a victim of what you claimed, it is not the end of the world, you don't have to pay attention, it could hurt, but learn from the mistakes that they are trying to correct, and adjust, this was how I made it this far on the forum, sometimes to grow we need to be handled this way, I won't do the same on someone else but I will surely correct the wrongs if they will listen it's up to them.

[Uhwuchukwu53]

Op actually your point out some facts but the issue is two sided there is difference between reporting a poster to moderator and commenting for a poster to learn and get correction because if everyone keeps silent on a post that is wrong the posters can't learn the problem of human be is perception and many hating correction, as newbie first one need observed any environment you found yourself learn the way things are been done rule and regulations are in the forum everyone can't learn at the same paste very correct but without letting the newbie going wrong who is not learning as others know he may end up learning nothing, how you perceived corrections most time make it hard for us to learn and grow.

I may not have learn all it takes in the forum because learning ended in grave but when I enter here I was reading people post and some pin post and link, I discovered that creating a topic is not mandatory but good comment can usher you all you need if it's reward or merit that makes many newbie rush in writing shit post and all manner of things that go contrary to the forum rules I may only advice any newbie to first learn and give attention to detail before commenting or posting not withstanding see correction as tool for growth or else remain unimproved and static in the forum.

[Cricktor]

I must say that I expected some quite different content in this thread based on OP's subject. You could say OP uses a metaphor. All I can say to this is, a metaphor is a bad thread subject, is likely misleading and doesn't help to search content in a large forum like this.

Newbie equals poor? How on earth do you come to such a notion?!

Yes I have read some post where some of the beginner are mostly being attack due to inability to understand how the forum works, and for them to ask some question they needs clarification but at last got attack. I am not against of anyone attacking each others but let it be a way that everyone including the newbie has some little air space to breath than in every single discussion you would see those who calls themselves overall rank would come attack, either by saying your post doesn't belong here and there, low quality post, lack of English, poor English, etc. okay, must everyone be a graduate as you are? No

How about showing some proof of your accusations? Show your spots you've read which led you to create this thread!


I probably stumbled over some threads opened by newbies or even other ranks where replies weren't all very welcoming. There may have been a reason for harshness but this has to be judged on particular instances. I can't remember senior ranks popping up regularly with groundless offensive behavior.

I'm also sometimes annoyed by users who ask questions that probably have been answered who-knows-how-many times. I don't care if it's a newbie (likely happens more often with those) or some other rank. It's a "serve me" mentality that's not helping in large forums. It leads to defragmentation and multiple occurences of information that plays out overwhelming when you try to actually search information here. Ever wondered why you get such vast hits count when you search? Efficient searching is something you need to learn and practice.

And some people are even that lazy to ask for help to pull their finger out of their nose while picking it...

I try as often as possible not to get annoyed and rant at those. Doesn't work always, I admit that. I could find more examples what bugs me, but don't see a point to exaggerate it.

I tell myself to grow a thicker skin and be always alerted when I feel the urge to rant or feel offended or annoyed. In most cases I can ignore to reply at all (don't feed the trolls mantra) and if I'm really annoyed, it helps to sleep over it. The urge usually vanishes and/or isn't worth it. If not, I can still reply and declare flame war.

[Asuspawer09]

I think there were just some newbies that weren't doing enough here, I think they weren't really getting attacked like actually bullying newbies, if that is what you're talking about you could probably give some example of that so that we could see it and discuss about it, you could quote that example on your topic. What I think is happening is they were just getting corrected by higher members here who already know how the forums work, I think it's kind of natural for some members to have comments especially if they are seeing something unusual to them.

I know we are all once a newbie, and probably made some mistakes as well when we were just getting started, but if you are doing things wrong, like for example, you are spamming, there will be members that are going to call you out for that, that just means that as a newbie you're not doing enough because you're not reading enough and following the rules. As a newbie, it's obviously your responsibility as well to follow, read the rules, etc. I mean they could easily take that as an encouragement, or probably just teaching newbies, I don't really see members here bullying but just telling them that they are wrong. I don't see any problem with that, if someone corrected you then you should probably take it as a good thing, then learn it again so that the next time you already know what you are saying.

[cryptoaddictchie]

Its a mixed ecosystem of harsh, nice, rude, mean, kind and any other approach of users here. Dont expect it to be light place. Yes english is quite important too as you need to converse and must be understood by other users as well. But theres always local section for your own native language. Newbies are often degrade here but its fine everybody experience it anyway as long as you can resist some negative criticism no problem mate.

[Perfectbaby]

Its a mixed ecosystem of harsh, nice, rude, mean, kind and any other approach of users here. Dont expect it to be light place. Yes english is quite important too as you need to converse and must be understood by other users as well. But theres always local section for your own native language. Newbies are often degrade here but its fine everybody experience it anyway as long as you can resist some negative criticism no problem mate.

Thank you @cryptoaddictchie for your brief view over this, usually I know such a place is highly a competitive place where someone needs to be of a great standard but even as that we don't have to dispute the facts that we need gentleness and not being too hash to the people because some people may not have that power to stand whatever pressure or arguments that may arise within the next people whom they claims to be the best, and of a true with carefulness what became so hard could be very lightly and easy to understand even though it's said that no one is kept here to tutor each other rather than someone seating down to understand how the system works.

[cryptoaddictchie]

we need gentleness and not being too hash to the people because some people may not have that power to stand whatever pressure or arguments that may arise within the next people whom they claims to be the best, and of a true with carefulness what became so hard could be very lightly and easy to understand even though it's said that no one is kept here to tutor each other rather than someone seating down to understand how the system works.

Actually feel the same way too when I was a newbie and still have a lot of questions too. But the mere fact that I ranked up means I overcome the harsh environment of criticism. Well its not good but there are always been some users to toy with newbies, as if they should already know whats to be answer. But believe me, its better this way so every newbie can have courage to improve more. But as a users experienced those, Id say I'll be gentle to real newbies.

[Peanutswar]

Its part for the newbies where to start in the community all of the things they read are too vague to them, the jargon might be hard to understand but sooner or later they will adopt these things if they are really willing to learn. This community has a lot of knowledge and information they can use and gather with their taking paths. Sometimes newbies get judge base on their actions, and other members notice already whats the objective of the newbie here to contribute or just to make spam. To newbies don't get discouraged if you want to learn more. If you are not comfortable you can use your local so people around you will easily accommodate your problems.

[YOSHIE]

Correct without hate words, learn without getting offense and speak with love. By so doing everyone would be welcomed to the community!

These days it is difficult to know genuine, common newbies who are caught and involved in acts of lies and forgery from fake newbies aka Alt, with several cases occurring here, so it has an impact on beginners who are truly genuine and want to get to know and learn on this forum, but you could say there are very few genuine beginners, mostly Alt beginners.

Basically the members here are friendly and kind, they will teach everything a beginner wants to know, the point is don't lie, if you lie of course don't blame the members here for acting out of bounds, and there is no tolerance for being caught lying, the problem is to be honest and show that you really are a true beginner, not an Alt full of lies.

Lying to other members, means you are lying to yourself, remember no matter how good a squirrel jumps, sometimes it will fall, love beginners who are really beginners.

[bSpend]

@op, is is often said that to exist in a forum like this, you have to develop a think skin, and this means, you don't have to pay attention to every thing a person have say, obviously, every one gets attacked here and there, even the top ranks attack each other from time to time, you can confirm this from the reputation board, so, it's not a matter of top ranks attacking newbies, but rather, it's all about the fact that a user attacking another user on this forum seem to be a normal thing, and the best way to overcome this is to count it as nothing when ever it happens, if any user attacks you, give a reply if the user deserve it, but if he or she doesn't, just ignore and give your attention to more important things that matter to you, with time, as you advance and get more used to the forum, rest assured the attack will reduce until it's almost like it's totally gone.

Best of luck growing and learning here.

[Odusko]

It's quite cold outside and I understand your plight most especially in this forum where some members have decided to try to play gods over others a d acting as if without them no one can have a say I what ever discussion that is going on here in the forum, some just give trust feedbacks without any justifiable reasons so for that all that you need to do is to develop a thick skin and keep developing yourself to the point that it becomes in possible for anyone to just frustrate your efforts just like that and also stand your ground and defend what you believe.
That is the only way you can allow yourself to breath in a community that is filled with so much knowledge and experience where newbies knowledge seems to be a waste of time for the older members.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

If you are superior to everyone. My dear you gat f**k down your anus and give people space to understand forum gradually with the way they think is best for them, correct people but no attack if you are attacking then what true messages are you passing after knowing the true vision bitcoin and it's representatives.

You're the one seeing it as an attack, to them correcting you it mightn't be an attack because we have people from different parts of the world on the forum and not everyone have the same way of thinking/behaving, some people are naturally harsh with their words and others are friendly. You can be corrected in both ways and still they're trying to help you out. You (OP) have to also work on your choice of words because you aren't sounding nice either and some group of people might find your post offensive without you trying to be offensive but just because of your choice of words and that is the same thing that is happening when people correct you and you find it offensive.

This is merely a forum and you are to let things go, don't envy those with high rank instead decide to learn from them. For everyone that have ranked up genuinely, they have sometimes that you can learn from and use it in helping yourself to better your account on the forum. When the correction comes irrespective of how it comes, take the positivity from the correction and move on. This forum isn't real life that you should get all angry that someone is disrespecting you because you don't know who they're in real life. We should all learn to not reason much into things or we'll always get angry at people behaviour.

[GiftedMAN]

Op, if you and every other user feel pained when you are corrected tell me how do you intend to grow to the level of helping others who may be looking up to you? a lot has been said here but am yet to see anyone telling you this which is the main reason why I decided to say it to you, if you don't want to be corrected go ahead and become a genius overnight, kill that ego which I think is the main reason why you made this post because you had to even use words which you didn't point out that any one used on you or other newbies whom you are speaking for so why are you being so furious for nothing when you know that you can scroll pass post which you think is offensive to you rather than responding back, am sorry to say this but if you don't wanna learn you don't want to be corrected and you don't want to do the right things then you shouldn't be here because you can't stop everybody from expressing themselves  when a post is made.

[JiiBs]

Yes I have read some post where some of the beginner are mostly being attack due to inability to understand how the forum works, and for them to ask some question they needs clarification but at last got attack. I am not against of anyone attacking each others but let it be a way that everyone including the newbie has some little air space to breath than in every single discussion you would see those who calls themselves overall rank would come attack, either by saying your post doesn't belong here and there, low quality post, lack of English, poor English, etc. okay, must everyone be a graduate as you are? No

Correct without hate words, learn without getting offense and speak with love. By so doing everyone would be welcomed to the community!
Thank you all.

I am a beginner myself and haven’t had some of these energies or been attacked for asking questions either in my responses or a thread I created. In fact, I can speculate that not everyone here in this forum are graduates or have some degree form college and not everyone here are native English speakers but still, we are all here trying to share ideas. That’s what is really important, sharing ideas and in doing so, you really can’t decide on how certain words would be dished out.

I see what reasons you’ve outlined in OP to have been examples of how these attacks are presented and there isn’t anything wrong with being told your post isn’t in the right place, don’t belong, is of low quality or constitutes a poorly formed English. Let’s not forget that the most we do here is read and we could decide to read and see the positive in some of these or just get enraged because our views weren’t welcomed in all its wholesomeness.

There is nowhere that is stated that everyone must be a graduate to be knowledgeable. Knowledge isn’t only gotten from attending college and the four walls of the college isn’t closed from anyone. If you’ve got resources enough to attend, then you do so. There are even those that have got these resources and still choose not to. In all, there is room for self development and getting offended if you aren’t corrected in the tune that might be pleasing to you is one means to stray from the part of taking that correction.
You might be like, okay, this guy wasn’t nice and so am not taking his words for shit but, that’s really you shitting yourself.

I try to understand approaches, I know it’s importance but, don’t get carried away by wanting everyone to please you, we aren’t the same, have different training and cultural backgrounds. We just keep learning from each other and mange ourselves in the process.

[SOKO-DEKE]

Yes I have read some post where some of the beginner are mostly being attack due to inability to understand how the forum works, and for them to ask some question they needs clarification but at last got attack.

The truth is that anyone is entitled to be criticized in this forum, whether you are a newbie or old higher ranks. If something wrong is being done, some beginners need to be attacked so that they don't repeat such things next time. However, if nobody is trying to correct beginners, they will surely continue with their bad behaviors and always claim they are newbies. There are some kinds of mistakes that if newbies make, senior ranks will overlook them and just correct them without criticism, but if the behavior is too bad, they need to be attacked.

either by saying your post doesn't belong here and there, low quality post, lack of English, poor English, etc. okay, must everyone be a graduate as you are? No

It is not everyone that has to be a graduate, but the truth is that you must know how to read and write if you want to be part of cryptocurrency and be successful. However, if someone knows that he or she is poor in English, the best way is to involve themselves in local boards and avoid other boards that deal with pure English.

[oktana]

Saying that the post doesn’t belong there isn’t wrong because it’s best to have everything organized. For instance as the newbie joined the forum, they can testify on how organized everything is. How different boards exist and have content related to them. That’s the aim. Regarding poor English, it depends on how it is conveyed. There’s constructive criticism and I stand with it. One of the last one I gave was telling the OP to use paragraphs to enhance readability. And those are things that actually help make them a better poster. So I think approach is what really matters here.

[Perfectbaby]

If you are superior to everyone. My dear you gat f**k down your anus and give people space to understand forum gradually with the way they think is best for them, correct people but no attack if you are attacking then what true messages are you passing after knowing the true vision bitcoin and it's representatives.

You're the one seeing it as an attack, to them correcting you it mightn't be an attack because we have people from different parts of the world on the forum and not everyone have the same way of thinking/behaving, some people are naturally harsh with their words and others are friendly. You can be corrected in both ways and still they're trying to help you out. You (OP) have to also work on your choice of words because you aren't sounding nice either and some group of people might find your post offensive without you trying to be offensive but just because of your choice of words and that is the same thing that is happening when people correct you and you find it offensive.

This is merely a forum and you are to let things go, don't envy those with high rank instead decide to learn from them. For everyone that have ranked up genuinely, they have sometimes that you can learn from and use it in helping yourself to better your account on the forum. When the correction comes irrespective of how it comes, take the positivity from the correction and move on. This forum isn't real life that you should get all angry that someone is disrespecting you because you don't know who they're in real life. We should all learn to not reason much into things or we'll always get angry at people behaviour.

Yeah I know humans and their behavioral attitudes towards their fellow is unhidden, we can't let it die in us that is why most people has this ego in them while speaking and of course my write-up could looks so harsh but it was the response I gives my feedback as it's said one good turns deserves another. Just imagine where everything are pretty much in better ways people could learn by correction instead of by hates and abusive words, I am not in any way being affected by Whatsoever but still we should learn to mind how we regards our fellows.