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May 02, 2024, 03:34:36 PM |
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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.
I knew that only slot game provider has the power to change the RTP of the slot games but some of the comment is from other streamers that has same experience on using demo account.
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May 02, 2024, 03:52:28 PM |
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This is not new among streamers; a lot of them, unless they have a private deal with the casino, do streaming and promote their games online. If not, a lot of them make use of casinos with demo funding options. If not, how on earth do you think they can be risking such a big amount of money? Most of them display in the screan just to prove what? What if the game doesn't go the way they expected? If the money is all gone that way, it's time, even without proof, to start learning how to stop believing everything this influencer or streamer displays online.
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May 02, 2024, 04:06:33 PM |
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Not new actually, some gambling sites do partnerships with streamers and give them a real account with bankroll in it and all they need to do is stream their gambling session and of course most of the time or in long time the streamer will win which encourage the viewers to play on that site. But even if the streamer do win, he/she cannot withdraw that account and it was part of the partnership with the gambling site, so you really can't tell which streamers do really gamble and win and who is hired by gambling sites.
But some of them do shows the withdrawal process and so on but you can see that the amount they are withdrawing is not that high.
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May 02, 2024, 04:06:38 PM |
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Lets say it is real that some streamers are using demo account and enhanced RTP, I say that it is not something wrong as long as the streamers are telling the truth. It can be an problem if the streamers say that they are using real money while they are using demo account, it means they are liars. However no matter they are using real account or demo account, we as viewers should take them as entertainment only. We should not be attracted to do the same as what they do as what they do is just advertisement and they do it as a job.
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May 02, 2024, 04:09:28 PM |
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Not surprising I guess. If they would use a personal account to showcase a gambling site, win rate will be the same and that means he'd rely solely on his luck. Take note that the goal of streamers is to promote a gambling site (most of the time), therefore if viewers would see the reality of how hard it is to win, they would associate the platform being promoted to other sites as alike. Some viewers are just so desperate or aware of the reality in gambling that they would be hooked up with a platform if they will see that the streamer is winning easily. This is why demo accounts are most of the time being shown because I think it has a higher winning rate which will aim to create an impression to audiences or simply encouraged them to engage on the platform being showcased.
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May 02, 2024, 04:13:08 PM |
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What streamers do is to advertise a casino for people to patronize the casino, which means they are in business with the casino, and I will not doubt it that streamers are using demo accounts when streaming.
But this is bad, because those people that are watching will get tricked in the sense that they will think that it is real account, and before you know it they will involve themselves in gambling using huge amount of money like what they watch the streamer do, unknown to them that it is not a real account. I will say that it is like luring someone into something that you cannot do yourself with your own funds.
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May 02, 2024, 04:15:22 PM |
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I would believe what thier fellow streamers said since they have the experience themselves. How else can they make such content where the streamer can win a huge sum and then look like they are not even feeling they are risking something big. I couldn't believe some of them could just wager as big as 25k in one go, there's gotta be something behind them and the casino.
If the casino can modify the winning rate of a game for the streamer to play, this will be more reassuring that the streamer will win and more confident to show the public which is a demo account.
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May 02, 2024, 04:24:04 PM |
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Nothing new, at least some get busted for doing that. People who have brain also know if slots will not make you to earn, even you earn, it's just temporary since you will back and gamble again.
Match fixing is more concerning to me since no one know if the match is really fair or not, we have seen so many controversial decision by referees or judges.
Streamers didn't affect the result of gambling, but match fixing is.
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May 02, 2024, 04:36:09 PM |
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Nothing new, at least some get busted for doing that. People who have brain also know if slots will not make you to earn, even you earn, it's just temporary since you will back and gamble again.
Match fixing is more concerning to me since no one know if the match is really fair or not, we have seen so many controversial decision by referees or judges.
Streamers didn't affect the result of gambling, but match fixing is.
It depends on how you analyze it and from what perspective you see the impact of both match fixing and streamers being dishonest to their viewers. Someone who is not actually into slots and casino games would never assume there is big negative impact being done against the viewers of those streams and certainly someone who prefer casino games over betting would not even think about match fixing. The good news is how easily one can avoid to fall victim of any of those schemes by being informed enough about them and avoid both small regional matches and also devious and shady streamers with a lack of track record. I have said it before, but I personally do not see the appeal on watching someone else wagering money on a casino when one could do so with the exact game if one wanted to. It is like becoming addicted without having the thin chance to earn a significant amount of money out of it. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Totally true, remember the time when a CS:GO skin website was being promoted by Jake Paul or Logan Paul, I can't exactly remember but they did this promotion where you get to spend money to spin roulette so you can win some expensive in-game skins and then it ended up getting exposed that they've got a different account where it's guaranteed that you would get those expensive skins and then it ended with a lot of kids getting scammed by this website and the streamers and influencers that promoted them getting flamed for what they've done to deceive their viewers.
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May 02, 2024, 04:50:03 PM |
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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.
I knew that only slot game provider has the power to change the RTP of the slot games but some of the comment is from other streamers that has same experience on using demo account.
Many local online casinos in Asia through their agents promote their platforms with offering "a special account". Actually, its just a marketing trick and it is not a demo account, the account is the same as other accounts made by ordinary users on that platforms. Local online casinos that hire streamers/influencers to promote their platforms, actually only give them an ordinary account with a fairly decent balance and ofc its not withdrawable. If they say that they can win big with the account, its just a coincidence. It started as a marketing trick, became a hot topic among the gamblers and then it became a myth which many people still believe it.
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In my opinion, people should not look at streamers as a model of player that they should also copy, but rather they should look at streamers as teachers who teach some functions of games. whether streamers earn a lot or little money, use demo accounts or real accounts, are they sponsored or not by casinos. it shouldn't be people's biggest focus because gambling is not something for obtaining a stable income, so when people want to know about a game, for example, they can go to streamers' channels and watch them playing, that way the person learn more about that particular game he wants to play. In my opinion, streamers are similar to those guys who test whether cars are good or not when car companies create a new car
Now the mistake many people make is looking at the streamers' earnings during games and copying everything the streamers are doing, they put a lot of money into the casino thinking that when they play the same game that the streamers were playing and won a lot, then they too will win a lot, and when they lose they are on the internet complaining about the streamers, they are accusing the streamers of lying. but I wonder if the streamers during the games mention that they are playing with money from their pockets and on their real account, if they don't say anything about it, then in a way they are not lying
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May 02, 2024, 05:18:00 PM |
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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.
I knew that only slot game provider has the power to change the RTP of the slot games but some of the comment is from other streamers that has same experience on using demo account.
nowadays we can say that is true cause like here in my country a lot of streamers using demo account with a balance of 100k in our Currency which is pretty sure enough that many people or followers of that streamers will take the link that they provided the comment section of thier live. And we are all know that the more people downloading and made a deposit the more commissions that the streamer have. But it depends on the situation what are their agreement between the steamer and the owner of the casino.
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It could not be demo accounts, but the casinos themselves are funding these streamers in order to boost their platform and show the viewers that this streamer rolls big and wins big on the same platform, instilling confidence and trust on the platform. A lot of these streamers in the Philippines are possibly doing this because if you think about it, these are just average streamers who obviously can't deposit $25k every day and lose it just because they can. At most, these streamers can possibly earn $10k in a month so how can they fund their gambling activities?
This is why I never play on the casinos these streamers are trying to advertise. They're fooling their viewers for the sake of money, and only a handful of these streamers are actually playing with their own money.
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Honestly, I don't really know about whether the money used by the stremers to do promotional video shows is real money or just a demo account (fake money), but I think we should be able to realize it ourselves by thinking using a healthy mindset where I think if you are a gambler then you should realize that finding victory in gambling is not as easy as turning your palm, I understand and feel how difficult it is to get consecutive wins with large amounts especially if we play in online casino types such as slot games that purely rely on luck.
But as we see that the stremers really look very easy to get that big win, and honestly I don't see the reaction of concern from them at all when their balance has decreased even though the number of their multipliers is very large but in the end their promotional video shows are always closed with significant wins, and maybe you've seen stremers who managed to turn small money into very large, like $10 into $1000, although it might happen but I don't think the scenario will be that easy. There are quite a lot of irregularities that I see and I'm pretty sure that it's actually fake money or it means that they are playing on a demo account that has been provided by a casino that wants to promote by organizing everything behind the scenes to change the winning percentage to be easier for the stemser so that many people are interested and fall for it.
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May 02, 2024, 06:08:27 PM |
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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.
Streamers without sponsors will likely to create traffic by using a demo account but it won't take too long to notice whether the person is buying the slot bonuses or simply just making bets and showing the winnings cause people will most likely support the transparency when they are new to the channel. Well, demo account or the casino itself sponsoring the thing is same, the streamer isn't taking any risk with his money that's the moral of the story.
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I don't care whether they use a demo account or a real one, because I really don't believe the impressions of slot streamers, what they get when playing slots is unreasonable, and very different from reality. Because actually slots are a type of gambling that quickly sucks up visitors' balances. And while I was playing slots, it seemed like I was spending more money than I was winning. So I think what the streamers are doing is just a setup, just to fool their fans. Therefore, I hope that we can all digest the shows they show well, and even if we like watching streamer slot gambling shows, consider it just for entertainment, because in reality slot games are not as beautiful and easy as those played by slot streamer.
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No, they're using the balance on a real account. So, to make the bet are real. However, some of the influencer have different contract: 1. Balance are 100% fake on real balance, which mean they cannot withdraw them 2. Balance are being given by casino, but there has some turn over 3. A few percentage you can with from the total balance you are made.
That's why, mostly 98% they are betting with fake balance. It's not doubt about that, even in youtube there has some detail about the deal.
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Lets say it is real that some streamers are using demo account and enhanced RTP, I say that it is not something wrong as long as the streamers are telling the truth. It can be an problem if the streamers say that they are using real money while they are using demo account, it means they are liars. However no matter they are using real account or demo account, we as viewers should take them as entertainment only. We should not be attracted to do the same as what they do as what they do is just advertisement and they do it as a job.
Some casino platforms have affiliated with some streamers with many followers, they have paid streamers to promote gambling using underhanded strategies to deceive many followers, don't expect them to review honestly and they will not admit that the casino platform has sent a demo account with an increased RTP. for creating bad content. Actually, it's not just gambling but this case occurred on a trading robot platform. But not all streamers are bad, some streamers will not accept offers that harm viewers and you have to be selective in having streamers review each platform with an honest explanation and make sure they are not affiliated with a casino platform.
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May 02, 2024, 08:43:57 PM |
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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.
I knew that only slot game provider has the power to change the RTP of the slot games but some of the comment is from other streamers that has same experience on using demo account.
It's possible. I saw one video on Tiktok, someone is posting that they have won big in land based casinos, but someone commented that they are playing demo account, Lol and that's why they were able to win supposedly big money. So I wouldn't be surprised if this is also happening in online or some streamers are really using demo accounts to show that they are beating huge amount of money to look as if they are rich or very lucky winning jackpot after jackpot.
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