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this is not a rumor, but a fact, because of all the streamer gamblers, almost all of them work with casinos and it is impossible for these streamers to use their own money, but they use accounts that have been created by casinos with tweaks. so in this way, streamers can show how exciting it is for them to gamble and win from it and then that will attract people to register on the casino platform.
therefore, we don't need to be surprised at how gambling streamers can earn millions from gambling, because they work together with casinos to make them "look" like rich people, just like gambling influencers.
Exactly, I think that this has been a thing of the past though, some streamers especially the popular ones do have the money to be able to do the real bets, the only difference now is just that they're not using demos anymore, they've got some privileges from the casino that they're promoting and that they're not easily losing their money, their odds are adjusted so they win more, that way, most casinos would avoid the issue of streamers lying to their audiences which would lead to generation of bad publicity for that casino together with that streamer. It would be a really weird experience too if you ask me if they gamble like us plebes, not a good image for the casino that someone on the livestream is breaking down and slowly spiraling out because they've got the same odds as normal people so I get why they do this kind of thing.
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They don't need to be a demo account, and from what I understand I think joeperry is right. Not new actually, some gambling sites do partnerships with streamers and give them a real account with bankroll in it and all they need to do is stream their gambling session and of course most of the time or in long time the streamer will win which encourage the viewers to play on that site. But even if the streamer do win, he/she cannot withdraw that account and it was part of the partnership with the gambling site, so you really can't tell which streamers do really gamble and win and who is hired by gambling sites.
The point is that either way there is a degree of fakery in what they show, because they are not literally taking money out of their pocket to gamble with the risk of winning or losing it as many of their viewers are going to do.
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May 03, 2024, 04:55:43 AM |
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Lets say it is real that some streamers are using demo account and enhanced RTP, I say that it is not something wrong as long as the streamers are telling the truth. It can be an problem if the streamers say that they are using real money while they are using demo account, it means they are liars. -snip-
The real problem is that in most cases they won't mention anything about the account (they don't tell you that it is real, but most viewers, specially youngsters and newbies, will believe it). To me, this is serious because they might create wrong expectations on these people, who will risk more than what they would of they hadn't see these videos, and end frustrated because of the "bad luck" they have in comparison to the streamer. Although it is not bud luck, in the cases mentioned, but flawed odds.
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May 03, 2024, 05:52:11 AM |
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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.
I knew that only slot game provider has the power to change the RTP of the slot games but some of the comment is from other streamers that has same experience on using demo account.
Yeah for me it's true since as you can see when these streamers promote the online casino they are paid to advertise, you can only see all the winning part of the gaming activity I mean showing only positive sides of the game makes me conviced that it was all faked and staged to lure possible users to see how easy it is to win but in reality it's a total trap for them. I actually one of those agents before with online casino and that is common during a paid promotion to use a demo account.
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May 03, 2024, 06:18:51 AM |
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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.
I knew that only slot game provider has the power to change the RTP of the slot games but some of the comment is from other streamers that has same experience on using demo account.
This issue is not new to us, it has been spreading for a long time because other former streamers have released the truth about this, the majority of streamers who have a contract with online casinos are given set up accounts to make the content more convincing once they play it in their live streamin. of course if people can only watch winning, there is a good chance that more people will join, right? this is also a good side for streamers because they will earn money when a lot of people use their referral codes, that's why most of the people who attract other streamers are beginners and young people, the ones they can easily fool.
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Good chance that some of the people who stream and have been able to snag sponsorships with gambling sites have demo qccounts, as there is no real way you’d be able to drop jackpot after jackpot which some of these streamers experience on the daily.
Streamers usually get paid by casinos and even use special accounts from casinos, in addition streamers also become affiliates recommended by casinos because when streamers play slot games they always put referral links in the description, which means streamers will get a bigger commission. We never know how fully the streamer does that we assume they are paid by the casino or become its partner to continue to streamer at the casino being promoted. I also see the jackpot easier to get streamers than us as reality is not like that.
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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.
So the rumor comes from viewer's comment only without any solid evidence? Of course viewers are free to say anything about what they watch but at the same the streamers are also free what to do in their stream. Streamers are usually playing depends on the deal with the casino they promote. I doubt big casinos will let their streamers to play with demo account as it might give bad reputation to the casino. Usually the streamers are playing with real account and real money but there might be some terms behind that we never know unless the streamers inform it to the viewers.
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Lets say it is real that some streamers are using demo account and enhanced RTP, I say that it is not something wrong as long as the streamers are telling the truth. It can be an problem if the streamers say that they are using real money while they are using demo account, it means they are liars. -snip-
The real problem is that in most cases they won't mention anything about the account (they don't tell you that it is real, but most viewers, specially youngsters and newbies, will believe it). To me, this is serious because they might create wrong expectations on these people, who will risk more than what they would of they hadn't see these videos, and end frustrated because of the "bad luck" they have in comparison to the streamer. Although it is not bud luck, in the cases mentioned, but flawed odds. There is no streamer who will admit to that, because believe it or not, but I think this scenario is possible because, if you will notice how streamers gamble or play gambling games, especially slot games, they wager too much money and sometimes lose or win a huge amount of money. Where is it coming from? maybe the money can be sponsored by the gambling website or app that they are promoting so that the viewers could be attracted to and curious to try the website as they can see the streamers hitting a huge amount of win, but of course it can also have the possibility that the account might be a demo account, we will never know until we can see a solid proof that this kind of cheating is happening in the streaming industry related to gambling, but of course no one will admit or no one will let their guard down because it will against the contract and they might be sanctioned by the gambling site, anyways don't believe in all you see in internet, not all you see in internet or in the streaming community.
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May 03, 2024, 08:12:02 AM |
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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.
I knew that only slot game provider has the power to change the RTP of the slot games but some of the comment is from other streamers that has same experience on using demo account.
How can most of us here tell if this is true when we are not streamers?, there is this common phrase in my place which states "na thief dey catch thief", this simply means that, it's a criminal that knows who is a criminal, and also catches a criminal, if those who are saying this are streamers also, or were once streamers, then there is the possibility that there could be some truth in the rumor. Come to think of it, there is actually a way to know if when a streamer is using the demo version of a slot game to deceive his followers, the one and only way I can think of for now is by watching when the streamer is about to start the game, there is usually a switch used to shift from play mode to fun mode, if the streamer used the switch while opening the game, then there is possibility that he is playing in demo mode, or he's and just before starting the game, he goes off for a few second, that could be an indication that he did some thing back door, and that could be putting the game in a demo mode before coming back on live. Anyways, if streamers go this, it's totally wrong, knowing fully well that they misleading their viewers, I think hosting services should be alerted on this, and any streamer caught doing this should be permanently banned.
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Is that a bad thing? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Imagine if there's a casino offer you to become paid streamer and they don't mind if you cover your face and change your voice, will you reject the offer just because you don't agree to gamble using demo account? The main problem is why the police didn't catch the steamers that give fake promises e.g. sign under referral link will boost 10% winning chance, play this games will make you rich etc.
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What streamers do is to advertise a casino for people to patronize the casino, which means they are in business with the casino, and I will not doubt it that streamers are using demo accounts when streaming.
But this is bad, because those people that are watching will get tricked in the sense that they will think that it is real account, and before you know it they will involve themselves in gambling using huge amount of money like what they watch the streamer do, unknown to them that it is not a real account. I will say that it is like luring someone into something that you cannot do yourself with your own funds.
That's the point of this, why they do that is for the sole reason that it will attract players to try their luck and make sure that they're doing all the allure as much as possible so people would think that it's easy to make money here because Streamer is making bank out of this casino, in an ideal world, that wouldn't be this bad because it's advertising after all, it's bound to deceive someone but the problem stems with the fact that in reality, people are stupid and they think that it's the same gamble for them as the streamer if they try it and then they end up with all these losses because they blindly use what the streamer's advertising. I guess when people stop falling for this kind of marketing, that's the time that we would see some changes in regards to how these casinos use streamers to promote their online casinos, I don't think that it's going to change anytime soon though.
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May 03, 2024, 09:10:17 AM |
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Is that a bad thing? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Imagine if there's a casino offer you to become paid streamer and they don't mind if you cover your face and change your voice, will you reject the offer just because you don't agree to gamble using demo account? The main problem is why the police didn't catch the steamers that give fake promises e.g. sign under referral link will boost 10% winning chance, play this games will make you rich etc. Its not really a bad thing since its opportunity for certain individual to earn money and there's nothing wrong to be practical since we know its hard to earn money nowadays. Also lots of people will understand that since for sure they or we would also grab the offer if same offers will be given to us. But what's bad thing about that is how they promote their sponsors since some of those streamers promise heaven and earth to those people who sign up under their referral links then say about something unrealistic like they can earn easily by playing those stuffs they promote. If they always say gamble responsibly maybe lots of people will accept their promotions doing but if they do something not good by saying something easy richest just to lure those guys then this is where the crime starts. Maybe authorities can't do any action yet since the regulation regarding on this promotion is so weak on their jurisdictions that's why there are some influencers are free to promote whatever they like even if they know that it can possibly destroys someone's life.
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May 03, 2024, 09:22:56 AM |
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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.
I'm not a streamer but reasonably I don't expect that a streamer would risk all his huge money to proof to someone else that he knows his onions and for him to only register through him. What about if he loses his money? So I think the risk is too much for the streamer to go live without any fakery. Therefore, it is either the assumption of demo account may be reasonable to consider or that there is some kind of agreement with the casino owners on some manipulation that will allow some fakery.
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Lets say it is real that some streamers are using demo account and enhanced RTP, I say that it is not something wrong as long as the streamers are telling the truth. It can be an problem if the streamers say that they are using real money while they are using demo account, it means they are liars. However no matter they are using real account or demo account, we as viewers should take them as entertainment only. We should not be attracted to do the same as what they do as what they do is just advertisement and they do it as a job.
They will never tell the public that they are using demo account and enhanced RTP else the essence of the promotion will be defeated. Their job is to convince the viewers that they are real and that gambling pays that much. There is no way they can make the followers use real money if they are aware the streamers are using demo. The technical aspect of it is that they will always put disclaimer which exonerate them from any liability or action the gamblers might take due to their streaming activities. I have learnt to take my decision and not allow influencers or anyone to cajole me into doing what I didn't bargain for. My money is precious to me so I use it wisely.
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Jody.Drummer
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May 03, 2024, 09:39:51 AM |
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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.
I knew that only slot game provider has the power to change the RTP of the slot games but some of the comment is from other streamers that has same experience on using demo account.
This issue is not new to us, it has been spreading for a long time because other former streamers have released the truth about this, the majority of streamers who have a contract with online casinos are given set up accounts to make the content more convincing once they play it in their live streamin. of course if people can only watch winning, there is a good chance that more people will join, right? this is also a good side for streamers because they will earn money when a lot of people use their referral codes, that's why most of the people who attract other streamers are beginners and young people, the ones they can easily fool. That's right, I believe you about what the former stremer told me, they are promoting by using an account that has been set up behind the scenes by the casino which I am sure that the casino organizes everything especially to make the winnings easier to get by the stremer when they are doing video shows. And the other thing is that winning in gambling is money and everyone needs money and as we know that most people are very easily tempted by something that is instant but makes a large amount of money, at least they will definitely be tempted or tempted and then try it and usually the victims are those beginners who are still new and don't know much about how gambling actually is, or most likely the victims will be people who really need money in an urgent time which makes them sometimes able to justify all means to get money, one of which they might be very easy to try gambling and hope that they will be able to get a win according to what the stremers get.
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summonerrk
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May 03, 2024, 09:45:07 AM |
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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.
I knew that only slot game provider has the power to change the RTP of the slot games but some of the comment is from other streamers that has same experience on using demo account.
I was looking at the statistics of visitors to online casinos in my country, and I was very surprised that despite the complete ban on casinos, the number of new players is steadily increasing. And of course, one of the reasons for the casino promotion is the streamers. At the same time, there are two types of streamers: calm players and thrash streamers. And they have one thing in common: both of them play fake slots. I don't believe that their luck and winnings are real. These are either demo accounts or special slots made specifically for them. But one thing is clear - this is definitely a hoax and not the slots that all players play.
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May 03, 2024, 09:49:32 AM |
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Maybe that is true considering that streamers have very large balances. They could use a demo account to gamble and attract the interest of people who see them gambling. But we will never know the truth because it is a secret for the streamers. But I think there are streamers who use their real accounts to gamble and convince the people who see them. After all, we can only watch and not be tempted to follow them, especially if they have a lot of money for gambling. It's better if we just leave them to continue gambling and if we want to gamble, we can play using just enough money.
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Awaklara
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May 03, 2024, 10:04:43 AM |
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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.
I knew that only slot game provider has the power to change the RTP of the slot games but some of the comment is from other streamers that has same experience on using demo account.
If it is the streamer who is speaking then there is a possibility that it is true. and it's no wonder why they (streamers) get big wins in every game video they share. There is another possibility that the streamer is collaborating with the slot developer. which means the account can be set to win for promotional purposes to the streamer's followers. I don't like gambling site streamers. they must know well the type of followers they have. If the streamer is focused from the start on the gambling site, it might not be a problem. but some streamers started out playing online games with followers mostly children who turned their views to gambling streamers. this is bad enough for his followers.
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shivansps
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May 03, 2024, 10:23:29 AM |
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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.
I knew that only slot game provider has the power to change the RTP of the slot games but some of the comment is from other streamers that has same experience on using demo account.
I understand what you are talking about. Personally, I have not caught the hand of any of the streamers and I have no proof that they are doing this. But I am initially distrustful of such things. Of course, they can use a demo account to show what is actually not there and to achieve their own interests. He can use a demo account, and the person looking at this will use his real money. Everything that happens on the Internet, especially related to gambling or cryptocurrency or various types of earnings, should be treated with caution.
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EarnOnVictor
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May 03, 2024, 12:56:17 PM |
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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.
I knew that only slot game provider has the power to change the RTP of the slot games but some of the comment is from other streamers that has same experience on using demo account.
I've always told people not to believe what they see these days, it may not be particularly true, but most things are doctored and planned. The fact that experienced gamers/gamblers are saying the same thing should mean a whole lot to you. They get to reveal secrets due to envy at times while others will just want to reveal the truth so that people know what they are up against. Either way, I wonder why this is even surprising you, they might just be using simulators, something that is not real or be playing/showing the demo version that has nothing to deduct from them. Obviously, these guys can't be doing this alone, they will be doing it for some casinos, so what do you expect? Many might have the back-end weakness of the casino platform purposely for that trick in such a lapse mode to be able to exploit it and explore the viewers and the intending customers. So, the RTP can surely be doctored or planned in such a way that will produce the exact result they want from it.
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