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May 08, 2024, 08:31:14 AM
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I am generally not good at disguising, I will say what's on my mind, if not I will turn around and walk away. It's not smart to talk with everyone, no matter how we say it, some people will misunderstand us. So sometimes it's better to keep quiet and mind our own business.

Exactly, it's none of our business no matter even if the person is your blood relative, of course we have the responsibility to guide them but in gambling, I don't think so, I may give a few tries if the person is really close to me and if they don't care then why should I care?

They are adults just like me so they should know what they are supposed to do and not, and if they violate it then they have to face the consequences too.

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May 08, 2024, 08:40:23 AM
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I have none because I am always a better example to my family and friends when in terms of
gambling because I know how to manage and control each time I gamble things that they love how
i am doing such when they cannot even stand in table when they are dealing in gambling any
game that they are into.
I'm not even your family member, friend, or close person, etc... but I'm also proud of you. This is because it's not easy to do for a normal individual and we can only wish we are on the same boat as you, so that we will never experience the negative side of gambling, ever again but even on that simply words you said there, we can still learn from it or use that as a motivation to improve our selves as well.

For those who think they have a problem in gambling, it is still commendable if they can act that they don't have it, only to encourage others to stop gambling or help them to get out of the same problem and maybe this can help them to apply it on their own too, later on.

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May 08, 2024, 09:18:07 AM
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Exactly, it's none of our business no matter even if the person is your blood relative, of course we have the responsibility to guide them but in gambling, I don't think so, I may give a few tries if the person is really close to me and if they don't care then why should I care?
Yes, it's not our business to stop someone from gambling but we as loved ones can try our best to guide them about gambling responsibility. We should also guide them that gambling isn't for making money but a way to entertain ourselves, and we should never consider it as a way to earn so much money as that's not possible for everyone.

If still they don't listen our words and ignore us by saying that we are not aware of it, or it allows them to earn money then we should stop saying anything else to such people. It's not worth it to spend your energy and stamina to guide whose who don't listen, and I believe we should try our best to distance ourselves from such people.

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May 08, 2024, 09:33:33 AM
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While I understand your desire to set a positive example for your gambling friends and help them regain control of their emotions, it is important to approach the situation with empathy and understanding. Gambling can be a complex and personal matter, and each individual may have different experiences and challenges associated with it.

It is commendable that you strive to stick to your gambling budgets and maintain a level of control over your bankroll. However, it is crucial to recognize that not everyone may possess the same level of self-discipline or emotional control when it comes to gambling. While you can offer support and guidance to your friends, it is important to remember that each person's journey towards responsible gambling is unique.

As for your question about negative sides to gambling habits, it is essential to acknowledge that gambling can have adverse effects on individuals if not approached responsibly. Some individuals may struggle with addiction, financial difficulties, or emotional distress due to excessive gambling. It is crucial to encourage responsible gambling practices and promote awareness of the potential risks associated with gambling.

When it comes to helping an astray gambling friend or relative, it is important to strike a balance between offering support and respecting their privacy. It is not necessary to hide your own experiences or disreputable gambling habits if they exist, but it is equally important to approach the situation with sensitivity and understanding. Encouraging open and honest conversations about gambling habits can foster a supportive environment where individuals feel comfortable seeking help if needed.

Remember, the goal should be to promote responsible gambling practices, offer support, and encourage individuals to seek professional help if their gambling habits become problematic.
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May 08, 2024, 10:11:21 AM
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I beg a pardon if a thread like this has existed here.

I have been around my gambling friends and I have always acted to be 100% sticking to my gambling budgets such as how many times, a specific time and how much to spend on my gambling.
Once awhile I actually breaks that budget but though it does not affect my daily life and my bankrolls.
I literally claim this righteousness on my friends who are running out of their emotional control from gambling and psychologically I expects them to have me as an example whom they should emulate from in other to be recalled and take back control of their emotions while gambling.

Does any of you guys have any negative side of gambling habit in you which literally you advices anyone not to exhibit it?
Or can you afford to hide your real disreputable gambling life just to help an astray gambling friend or relative?

I don't understand the essence of what you are asking in this thread, but for the words you explain above, I have a principle that I adhere to. Well, let's just say that every gambling we do is based on self-control and responsibility. then we hope or want, some of our friends imitate what we do as an "EXAMPLE". Well, this example point is actually irrelevant to what we are discussing. I mean, subconsciously we have claimed that we are good and responsible gamblers. even though in reality, this is a one-sided claim according to psychology. To be an "EXAMPLE", it's actually not something that's easy. Even if you really claim to be responsible for the gambling budget and the rules you apply, it may not necessarily be viewed favorably by other gamblers.

OK, allow me to assume from my personal point of view. If I were you, and I had a discussion with my friend regarding how to gamble well. I mean, more precisely so that they don't gamble excessively. At that point, my job as a friend is finished to tell or share experiences. the rest is up to them and how they approach their gambling. because in essence it is awareness that inspires someone to make changes, and this applies not only to gambling. I don't need to be a good example to imitate, because this claim is too heavy for me. just by discussing, giving appropriate advice, that is more than enough. the rest, it all depends on them with their gambling.

Talking about the negative side, basically or unconsciously we have this talent from birth. So, there is no one who does not have a negative side. "in the broadest sense".
Regarding hiding the gambling life that we do, everything is the right of every gambler. well, for me it's something like that.


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May 08, 2024, 10:32:57 AM
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I know for sure that inside me there lives a terrible gambler who can place bets and lose absolutely everything that I can bet, there will be no limit on this. But the thing is that I never show this hidden part of my madness to my friends or anyone else, because they simply won’t recognize me if I start doing such things. Of course, if my true friend needs help, then I will be ready to do a lot to help him with this, even show my crazy part. It depends on the complexity of my friend’s situation, if it’s not difficult, then maybe I won’t be able to show it, in general, I’ll have to understand each specific situation as a whole.
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May 08, 2024, 10:34:15 AM
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I beg a pardon if a thread like this has existed here.

I have been around my gambling friends and I have always acted to be 100% sticking to my gambling budgets such as how many times, a specific time and how much to spend on my gambling.
Once awhile I actually breaks that budget but though it does not affect my daily life and my bankrolls.
I literally claim this righteousness on my friends who are running out of their emotional control from gambling and psychologically I expects them to have me as an example whom they should emulate from in other to be recalled and take back control of their emotions while gambling.

Does any of you guys have any negative side of gambling habit in you which literally you advices anyone not to exhibit it?
Or can you afford to hide your real disreputable gambling life just to help an astray gambling friend or relative?

you give good advice and comfort them by giving examples from your own experience but you yourself can't apply the things you tell them to yourself, you just pretend that you are in a good state when you face them but deep inside you are facing problems and you are not always okay. I've never experienced what you did but the only advice I can give to you OP, maybe it's better not to give advice to other people even if you improve your self image in their eyes, it's better to choose and help yourself first before other people.



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May 08, 2024, 10:47:54 AM
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Does any of you guys have any negative side of gambling habit in you which literally you advices anyone not to exhibit it?
Or can you afford to hide your real disreputable gambling life just to help an astray gambling friend or relative?
I learned from my past experiences (as a gambler without control, spending all my salary in gambling) I was so hooked to the point I forgot my responsibilities. That experience is an eye opener for me to not repeat the same mistakes again. It became my example to people I know (that are also into gambling) to always have discipline.

Because it's hard to overcome the addiction if you are already there. If keeping my real status as a gambler can help someone then why not? But in my case there's nothing to hide since i'm already done as a gambler without control.

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May 08, 2024, 12:10:51 PM
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I have friends too who gamble and they try as much as listening to me when I advise them. I do not disguise myself just to please anybody. I am real and they know me for the that. Whenever I advise them they listen and hid to my advice because of how disciplined I am.  Some times you just do not do things to convince your friends but rather you just have to be who you are and not to please them always so that they would really rely on you for advice or backup whenever such arises.
Do not be two faced because that alone would make you lose value were they are. They might not trust your judgement d would be sceptical of whatever that comes out of your mouth. If this happens them your integrity is at stake.

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I am generally not good at disguising, I will say what's on my mind, if not I will turn around and walk away. It's not smart to talk with everyone, no matter how we say it, some people will misunderstand us. So sometimes it's better to keep quiet and mind our own business.

Exactly, it's none of our business no matter even if the person is your blood relative, of course we have the responsibility to guide them but in gambling, I don't think so, I may give a few tries if the person is really close to me and if they don't care then why should I care?

They are adults just like me so they should know what they are supposed to do and not, and if they violate it then they have to face the consequences too.
I feels about that because sometimes what we tells to them is difficult to be accepted by them. After all, they don't have the same minds as us. We can still tells them or suggesting or guiding them but if they don't wants to listens, we can't forces them to follows. They are adult and could thinks about what they wants so we should lets them decide by themselves. Maybe they will needs to see the consequences and gets the effects so they can see the reality about what they are doing and can thinks that they needs to listen to other people. Sometimes they needs to gets the bad experience first before they wants to listen to the suggestion so they can learns something from what they do. If they can thinks about the mistakes, they will learns that they needs to change themselves and try to listen the others.

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May 08, 2024, 01:08:50 PM
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Does any of you guys have any negative side of gambling habit in you which literally you advices anyone not to exhibit it?
Or can you afford to hide your real disreputable gambling life just to help an astray gambling friend or relative?
It is totally normal to have times when you don't stick with your plan. We are humans and not some programmed robots. You should not feel bad about it. Tell your friends the reality of your struggles. We struggle with it too but it is the daily discipline and self control that sets us apart.

My own is that, sometimes I once a week or twice in a month, I bet more than more than I can afford to lose. On some days it favors me while on some weeks , the house wins.


We'll it's a necessity that you should be truthful in your dealings cause you may not know who's watching you from a distance,yes advising a friend not to gamble whereas you are and at same time hiding it is not a good idea but rather it's better of they are being told of that negative thing your into so as to know how to go about it,but you advising and still on it will give them doubt and no room of regarding you as anything cause they might be like your doing it too so why the advice,so literally you don't have to disguise yourself tell them how it is.

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May 09, 2024, 03:55:09 AM
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It is okay to give advice to friends but it is not okay to disguise the idea of gambling to help someone. We all know that gambling is high risk and there is no exact guarantee of winning how can gambling help your relative. Rather the gambler will incur more losses that may lead him to worse. You have to come out of this negative side and keep yourself under control and help your friends and relatives in other ways other than gambling so that you don't have to suffer. Maintain discipline and give them proper advice.
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Does any of you guys have any negative side of gambling habit in you which literally you advices anyone not to exhibit it?
Or can you afford to hide your real disreputable gambling life just to help an astray gambling friend or relative?
Every gambler must have experienced a time when they can't control themselves, maybe because they are a new gambler or because they are single person so that their income will belong to them completely unlike gamblers who already have a family to support, or maybe as a gambler, they have a large income and don't think about investing so that even if they play more than they can afford by going into debt later they will still be able to pay their debts because they have a large income.
So far I've never told anyone about my gambling activities, does that help my friend? I don't know, I just feel sorry for some people who think of gambling as a way to earn money and when they win they think they will continue to be able to earn the same thing.

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Exactly, it's none of our business no matter even if the person is your blood relative, of course we have the responsibility to guide them but in gambling, I don't think so, I may give a few tries if the person is really close to me and if they don't care then why should I care?
Yes, it's not our business to stop someone from gambling but we as loved ones can try our best to guide them about gambling responsibility. We should also guide them that gambling isn't for making money but a way to entertain ourselves, and we should never consider it as a way to earn so much money as that's not possible for everyone.

If still they don't listen our words and ignore us by saying that we are not aware of it, or it allows them to earn money then we should stop saying anything else to such people. It's not worth it to spend your energy and stamina to guide whose who don't listen, and I believe we should try our best to distance ourselves from such people.

First of all I don't actually believe that people are ignorant about making money by doing gambling but they still choose to do for some reasons that could be anything, getting addicted is extreme consequences but let's not get into that. Telling them about approaching bets is good but if I am saying stop then the person may start hating me even if I tried to good for them and I don't really want me to put into that situation.

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I wont be surprised because i have seen people who disguise themselves into a bad situation with the aim of saving a friend, siblings or relative that has been in there for long. But one thing is certain, it is a risky decision to make because you are putting you life at stake during these processes. Two things will be certain, you may see reason on why your friend choses to do those things and join him or you will save him from such habit gradually. What you need now is the power of conviction, if you can be able to convince your friend in that situation and make him understand that what the both of you are doing doesn't help or benefit yo guys in anyway. Then suggest that you both quit if not it will be too late very soon.

IMHO, i would say its a bad idea to join your friend on the gambling lifestyle he is living, if you fail to change him things could possibly go wrong because there wont be anyone left to change the both of you. Avoid his lifestyle and show him your progress with the lifestyle you are living he would change.

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May 09, 2024, 11:16:17 AM
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I actually curious about your statement here "
I have been around my gambling friends and I have always acted to be 100% sticking to my gambling budgets such as how many times, a specific time and how much to spend on my gambling.
Once awhile I actually breaks that budget but though it does not affect my daily life and my bankrolls."

If I were you Im gonna stick with the budget, tho you said is not affect your daily life and your bankrools at least today, stay inline with a budget is part of money management and you didn't now what is going happen in future, what I was scared is you keep out of your budget and this become a routine and that is going to be dangerous 

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Does any of you guys have any negative side of gambling habit in you which literally you advices anyone not to exhibit it?
Or can you afford to hide your real disreputable gambling life just to help an astray gambling friend or relative?

If you are not comfortable to share something about your gambling habit since you are afraid to get bad judgement towards the action you do then hide it sometimes it good to tell white lies or hide something so that there's something on our lifestyle will not get bothered by someone. Especially if there's no need to tell so decide according to where you are comfortable since your peace of mind is more important that anything else. Also if you are not really ready to be called anything  what make you feels bad then maybe its time for you to think something if its still really worth to gamble since if you are bothered on how your friends or relatives call you then think about setting aside this activity and live a normal life without participating on any gambling activities.

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Just be honest with them, I don't get it why you need to lie about it? What would you get by doing it?
You have been around them for a long time and they have been honest to you the whole time, you just wants them to look up to you, but you know that it was all just a lie to make yourself better than them.



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May 09, 2024, 01:44:30 PM
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Does any of you guys have any negative side of gambling habit in you which literally you advices anyone not to exhibit it?
Or can you afford to hide your real disreputable gambling life just to help an astray gambling friend or relative?

There is this saying that you must walk the talk.

It can be quite challenging to give someone an advice about on particular act in which you do not follow personally. For example, if you are an avid gambler and you want to disguise your habits by helping others, you can give advice but it may not be as efficient compared to others. Also, if you cannot associate yourself on the advice that you are giving, then there is that tendency that the person you are helping with may not be affected at all.

Though I do understand that you truly want to help to the point that you want to disguise your habits, I think it would be better if you could also apply what you are saying to others to yourself at first.

In conclusion, it is difficult to tell people what to do if you, yourself, do not follow it. Practice what you preach and you will see the difference first-hand that will enable you to share with others with certainty.

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May 09, 2024, 02:01:47 PM
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If you disguise for the good of others it's all good because it helps others how to be a responsible gambler just by seeing you got the best plans and limits which I think is very helpful but sometimes we ourselves is a victim to our own disguise. 😅 The thing is that most gamblers sucks on budgetting I mean sometimes when we feel "greedy" we spend more than the money we have which is the stepping stone for being an irresponsible gambler.



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