bc.game and stake.com originals casino games are 100% a scam

[Maasdamer]

These 2 sites are blatantly scamming their users in their originals games.Today I lost dice games on both sites with crazy losing runs that are against any logic or math. Stake, just now I lost 28 of 30 51% win chance rolls on dice. Losing 10 in a row, win 1, losing 8 in a row, win 1, losing 12 in a row. 12 in a row alone is a 4000:1 chance of this happening, 10 in a row 1000:1 and 8 is 256:1. And it happens against myself within 90 seconds. Needless to say it happens every single session at this scam site.

BC.game is even worse, I am losing 15 in a row in every session. Always losing 10 or more in a row to close a session while the max wins in every session in a row is like 4-6. But obviously when winning 4 you will lose 7 right after.
At a win chance of 51% statistically I should have more wins than losses but every single session is a loser, every single one. This has nothing to do with house edge before one of the smart guys here posts this bs, house edge only has an influence on profit/loss, not on the win/loss percentage. Don't play at these sites, they will steal from you, bleed you dry and laugh in your face.

[holydarkness]

Ignoring what Mahdirakib's feedback said about you... you do aware that their games are provably fair? And you do understand what provably fair means and how it works?

At this point, I am failed to see any strong basis to say that this thread is a scam accusation against Stake or BC. It's more like... a complaint and venting up after a big loss, and those two are definitely not justified as a reason to call a platform or two scam.

Please come back with strong supporting evidence or lock this thread.

[yahoo62278]

You can check the results of the rolls on stake and verify they are not manipulating your rolls. 51% chance does not mean every other roll should be a winner. You will see streaks of green and streaks of red, but will only remember the red streaks.

I would suggest maybe take a break and find the meaning of terms such as probably fair, gamblers fallacy, and learn how to use the verifier that stake offers and how to verify a roll. Once you have a better understanding, maybe take another shot.

[trapcoder666]

OP, you do know that all rolls are individual right ? That's no such thing as losing in a row because it's not a row but each rolls are individual and not linked to each other. With that you can also hit 99 reds. There's no beating the house in the long run or even short depending on your luck.

[Pmalek]

That's not how you calculate winning chances. You can't say a coin has two sides, so if I throw it in the air, it will land on heads 5 times and on tails 5 times. It can land all 10 times on the same side or end up with any combinations you can think of. Regardless of the outcome, your chance of predicting the correct side is still 50%.

The results of provably fair games can be checked publicly. Like others have said, do some research on how that is done and check if the outcomes were fair.

[Maasdamer]

You people should listem to yourselves.
Still it's simple math probability. You don't lose 10 or 15 in a row every 3 minutes, that doesn't happen in a fair game. The odds of this happening once in a session are already tiny, but several times within a short time span? Impossible!
And as I said, in every session I win like 4-6 in a row from time to time, not more. But losing 10-15 in a row several times on a 49% chance is just insanity. If I would win 10-15 at least 1 time it's ok, but I never do. Every session I lose the majority of spins, by a wide margin while I should win at least half of them. I am aware of sample size and so on, but if I lose the majority every single time even though the odds are slighltly in my favor this is impossible.By the way, just tried another one of BC's original scam games, Limbo. And I lost 27 times in a row on a 25% win chance. 27 in a row, yet insanity again.

BC and Stake are a scam. Everybody knows it, reddit and their forums are full of it. People are losing 20 BJ hands in a row on these sites, but you clowns say it's all good, haha.

[xxjumperxx]

To me this sounds like youre salty because you lost money you shouldnt have lost...
"in a row" isnt correct, as youre not "alone" at the table, while youre losing someone else is winning...
Read up on "provably fair" or better yet, dont gamble with money you arent prepared to lose.

[holydarkness]

You people should listem to yourselves.
Still it's simple math probability. You don't lose 10 or 15 in a row every 3 minutes, that doesn't happen in a fair game. The odds of this happening once in a session are already tiny, but several times within a short time span? Impossible!
And as I said, in every session I win like 4-6 in a row from time to time, not more. But losing 10-15 in a row several times on a 49% chance is just insanity. If I would win 10-15 at least 1 time it's ok, but I never do. Every session I lose the majority of spins, by a wide margin while I should win at least half of them. I am aware of sample size and so on, but if I lose the majority every single time even though the odds are slighltly in my favor this is impossible.By the way, just tried another one of BC's original scam games, Limbo. And I lost 27 times in a row on a 25% win chance. 27 in a row, yet insanity again.

BC and Stake are a scam. Everybody knows it, reddit and their forums are full of it. People are losing 20 BJ hands in a row on these sites, but you clowns say it's all good, haha.

Have you try to expose their "100% scam" behavior through the PV method they provides? If you haven't, please do. Come back here with evidence of it, we'll surely take a look into them.

And for the bolded part, I understand you're ok with winning 4-6 times in a row, didn't question their provability etc., but outraged when you lose in a row?

[alani123]

Can you do something to prove your claims? Export your rolls, share screenshots, or better than all... Show that the provable fairness your wagers happened under wasn't actually fair?

Stake's original games are actually provably fair. Even the slots! So the results are predetermined. You can change your wager amount and Stake won't be able to do anything because every single roll is determined in prior.
So before making such accusations you may as well read a bit about how gambling works and how provably fair algorithms can be used to verify rolls are fair. Don't just go out of your way attacking a casino if you don't know anything about these things otherwise you're just making a fool of yourself.

[electronicash]

you gotta provide the details when you are accusing casinos including the proof and pieces of evidence. everybody can claim and just walk away after saying they are scams but having evidence will make your word the truth. but if not then you are just one of those butt-hurt kids who consecutively lost 3 times in a dice game and shout scam.

we are aware some casinos are doing insane stuff but at least provide something for the readers to know how they scammed you. or you are lying.

[Mahdirakib]

Ignoring what Mahdirakib's feedback said about you... you do aware that their games are provably fair? And you do understand what provably fair means and how it works?

You may ignore the feedback, not the truth . OP isn't new to gambling, he knows how everything works. Still, he won't stop complaining as he is unable to control the emotion after losing his bankroll. He was complaining about his losses in the casinos ANN thread before, now he decided to take further steps by creating unnecessary scam accusations. OP is still playing on Stake even though he showed dissatisfaction about Stake bonus in 2021: Stake.com lying and cheating its "VIP" customers

[holydarkness]

Ignoring what Mahdirakib's feedback said about you... you do aware that their games are provably fair? And you do understand what provably fair means and how it works?

You may ignore the feedback, not the truth . OP isn't new to gambling, he knows how everything works. Still, he won't stop complaining as he is unable to control the emotion after losing his bankroll. He was complaining about his losses in the casinos ANN thread before, now he decided to take further steps by creating unnecessary scam accusations. OP is still playing on Stake even though he showed dissatisfaction about Stake bonus in 2021: Stake.com lying and cheating its "VIP" customers

LMAO, sorry. Dictionary must have left my brain for a moment when I posted that. I didn't mean to "disregard" your feedback. I was trying to say, "I'll set Mahdirakib's feedback aside for a moment, but even doing so, you do aware that [...]" and so on, in a sense that "even without counting Mahdirakib's feedback into consideration, you sounded like you just venting up your frustration upon losing in streak."

[SamReomo]

I must say that OP is not a lucky gambler at all and that's why he faces so many losses one after one. OP instead of blaming those sites I think you must try to learn about the provably fair system and all those games come with that system.

The casinos can't manipulate that system so it's your own luck that made you lose all those bets consecutively. You should take a break from gambling and try something else or you may try sports betting if you're not sure about casino games.

[Maasdamer]

I must say that OP is not a lucky gambler at all and that's why he faces so many losses one after one. OP instead of blaming those sites I think you must try to learn about the provably fair system and all those games come with that system.

The casinos can't manipulate that system so it's your own luck that made you lose all those bets consecutively. You should take a break from gambling and try something else or you may try sports betting if you're not sure about casino games.

Ok, please explain to me this porvably fair bullshit, in your own words please, not copy pasting some crap from google.
BC game and stake running a huge scam on their original games. You cannot win. Win 3 in a row and you get followed by 10 losses, every single time. BC gives a shit about their players, the support non existant as well.These outcomes never happen in a real life casino, only at manipulated games like these sites are running.All you idiots defending these scam sites are a joke to me.

How about this video for example, you think a ball moves like this? https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/1bqk7lg/insane_ball_spin_i_was_arguing_saying_how_stake/

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

BC and Stake are a scam. Everybody knows it, reddit and their forums are full of it. People are losing 20 BJ hands in a row on these sites, but you clowns say it's all good, haha.

What's wrong with others if these two are scam? Gambling platforms are not for you to make money, it's there to enjoy the entertainment. If you start beating the houses then the houses will bankrupt. You are their customer.

Ok, please explain to me this porvably fair bullshit, in your own words please, not copy pasting some crap from google.

You can verify the outcome.

[holydarkness]

I must say that OP is not a lucky gambler at all and that's why he faces so many losses one after one. OP instead of blaming those sites I think you must try to learn about the provably fair system and all those games come with that system.

The casinos can't manipulate that system so it's your own luck that made you lose all those bets consecutively. You should take a break from gambling and try something else or you may try sports betting if you're not sure about casino games.

Ok, please explain to me this porvably fair bullshit, in your own words please, not copy pasting some crap from google.
BC game and stake running a huge scam on their original games. You cannot win. Win 3 in a row and you get followed by 10 losses, every single time. BC gives a shit about their players, the support non existant as well.These outcomes never happen in a real life casino, only at manipulated games like these sites are running.All you idiots defending these scam sites are a joke to me.

How about this video for example, you think a ball moves like this? https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/1bqk7lg/insane_ball_spin_i_was_arguing_saying_how_stake/

I somehow get an impression from your words, from the whole post, that you didn't grasp the full meaning of PF itself.

Provably fair, simplified, is like the casino set their own result of the game just the game being played, encrypted in a server seed. The client can add their own influence of that outcome through their own seed [client seed]. And we add a more complicating factor called nonce, one that ensures even if we replicate the same server and client seed, for our next round, the end result will not be the same as nonce will not be the same.

The end result is the combination of serve seed + client seed + nonce.

To put it more simply, PF means no one, literally no one can influence the result of the game. Not you, not the casino. If a dice game gives a final result of 10, and you placed 25, that's not the casino replacing the original number [let's assume they're originally 25] just to make you lose. The number has been "predetermined" before the dice rolled by the combination of above.

Likewise, you can't manipulate the game so that it shows 25 instead of 10.

And ultimately, provably fair means you can cross-check that your game is indeed a losing bet, that it's not 25, by putting those elements into the provably fair analyzer, and see whether the outcome is just like what that round said or not.

Now, what make me think you don't grasp the full meaning of PF is because you complained that you win 3 times and then lose 10 consecutive lost. Had these rounds be checked by you?

[yahoo62278]

I must say that OP is not a lucky gambler at all and that's why he faces so many losses one after one. OP instead of blaming those sites I think you must try to learn about the provably fair system and all those games come with that system.

The casinos can't manipulate that system so it's your own luck that made you lose all those bets consecutively. You should take a break from gambling and try something else or you may try sports betting if you're not sure about casino games.

How about this video for example, you think a ball moves like this? https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/1bqk7lg/insane_ball_spin_i_was_arguing_saying_how_stake/

The ball you are seeing has really nothing to do with the result. It's just for visual effect, the result is already predetermined once you click bet. It's just something to make the game more entertaining for those betting.

**EDIT**

Didn't click the link as I rarely click them and the rant was about house games.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

I must say that OP is not a lucky gambler at all and that's why he faces so many losses one after one. OP instead of blaming those sites I think you must try to learn about the provably fair system and all those games come with that system.

The casinos can't manipulate that system so it's your own luck that made you lose all those bets consecutively. You should take a break from gambling and try something else or you may try sports betting if you're not sure about casino games.

How about this video for example, you think a ball moves like this? https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/1bqk7lg/insane_ball_spin_i_was_arguing_saying_how_stake/

The ball you are seeing has really nothing to do with the result. It's just for visual effect, the result is already predetermined once you click bet. It's just something to make the game more entertaining for those betting.

Actually this is a "live roulette" table, this is not just for visual effect. I have seen the same video on reddit actually and it sure looks off. That's why I never use the stake casino. Too many ?? about these games in my opinion.

Don't know why you would not see/know this is live, it's more than obvious.

[yahoo62278]

I must say that OP is not a lucky gambler at all and that's why he faces so many losses one after one. OP instead of blaming those sites I think you must try to learn about the provably fair system and all those games come with that system.

The casinos can't manipulate that system so it's your own luck that made you lose all those bets consecutively. You should take a break from gambling and try something else or you may try sports betting if you're not sure about casino games.

How about this video for example, you think a ball moves like this? https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/1bqk7lg/insane_ball_spin_i_was_arguing_saying_how_stake/

The ball you are seeing has really nothing to do with the result. It's just for visual effect, the result is already predetermined once you click bet. It's just something to make the game more entertaining for those betting.

Actually this is a "live roulette" table, this is not just for visual effect. I have seen the same video on reddit actually and it sure looks off. That's why I never use the stake casino. Too many ?? about these games in my opinion.

Don't know why you would not see/know this is live, it's more than obvious.

Well 1 i didn't click the link as the guy is complaining about house games, not live games. Assume it's a plinko drop. Obviously live would have 0 chance to be manipulated.

Maybe I should click the link instead of assuming right?

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Well 1 i didn't click the link as the guy is complaining about house games, not live games. Assume it's a plinko drop. Obviously live would have 0 chance to be manipulated.

Maybe I should click the link instead of assuming right?

Well maybe you really should watch the video, then you also wouldn't say there is 0 chance for it to be manipulated.
Roulette can be manipulated with magnets and small bursts of air. In this video it really looks super off. The ball gets to rest at a number and then totally gets kicked out to go somewhere else. There are laws of physics and in this one these laws are out of the door. 

But anyway, in my opinion there is always room for manipulation, that's why I stay away from it as good as I can.