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May 09, 2024, 04:45:22 AM
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People run away from a casino that asked KYC right after registration.
Right after? Which means they already started playing and ended up winning? But that's a waste of money if they will simply ran away because of the KYC requirements. There are still lots of users who just comply to the rule. The boom of online casinos right now is in fact a proof to that.

What they want is no KYC and only ask KYC if they have the amount too big the casino has to require.
Before, that's how a KYC work, like you will only get asked for it once the amount you are dealing with is huge enough but unfortunately they revised it and now, anyone is not exempted to it anymore. Even without the involvement of KYC, a max win can still screw us because it lets us think that gambling is easy money and we will try to bet more again.
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May 09, 2024, 03:37:10 PM
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Casinos has the right to request their users to do the KYC again at any time when they require more information from their players.
So there is no need to bother looking for a casino that is willing to do KYC at the beginning, because after done with the KYC it doesnt mean your account has been whitelisted.

There are still many casinos that have a good reputation and do not require KYC for withdrawals of less than $2000.

I think you have a good point here, if we do kick at the beginning but then abuse somehow or break the rules (with multiple accounts on the same IP is a good example) then our account can get locked, and the kick will not save us from that because we have broken the casino rules. So, the fact that we make the KYC process doesn't mean our account can't be locked.

But following this point, some casinos detect when users are cheating and they ask for KYC, after the process they lock the account explaining how the user cheats, and i think that's cruel, but maybe is a way to avoid the user cheats two times.

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May 09, 2024, 04:08:08 PM
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Very well,most gamblers frown at the fact that they will need to fill a KYC documents before payments whereas their mode of winning have not been ascertained but how could a Max win be the worst thing to any gambler.
Normally every gambler is happy when attaining such wins but where they get it all worked up is when they are asked to do KYC to guarantee their payments and all that and that's where it becomes a worse nightmare for some cause they think it's a long process for them to cash out their wins.
It's very true that max payment is the dream of almost every gambler but then sometimes winning the max payout may not be the problem initially but the casino been able to payout the money to the winner becoming a nightmare is what get many gamblers not wishing to win the max payment because they may actually end up not been happy with what they may have to go through just to be able to get paid especially with casinos who wait for such huge wins before they request KYC and at this point some of them don't get to make the KYC any easy, they make it rough such that you actually have to go through a whole lot of stress just to get pass it.

I do advice thst if you get to a site or a casino and they are not requiring you do your KYC at the point of registration try to make inquires into  the fact that they will require it in the future so you get prepared and know how to handle it if need be otherwise you can go ahead with your registration or exit.

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May 09, 2024, 04:56:16 PM
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I'm not sure and I cant imagine about hitting max payout in a casino since I'm small gambler only so I'm sure that my biggest win will not be something really huge that will not lead into KYC.
Lets say I have the chance to win so huge amount of money, whether it will be a nightmare or not, it will be depending on how the casino serve me.
It will be a nightmare if the casino make it hard for me in the verification process but if the casino is friendly enough then it will not be a nightmare.

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May 09, 2024, 05:56:42 PM
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Most casinos nowadays don't let you do the KYC process until they request it, this means you will not get KYCed unless a lot of money or fraud is involved, but it would be nice if users could do the KYC process before deciding if to deposit or not.

Well, this time i have 3 questions for the community, i want to see what people think about how gambling works nowadays.

If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?

When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?

Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?
First of all, before even engaging in gambling the first thing you do is to choose a legitimate casino and it's easy to find a good one in here without going many cases against this casino when it comes to withdrawing your winnings.
Now when it comes to passing the KYC process before the casino requests it, I believe contacting the support about this matter may help you with passing it and confirm your documents, otherwise try to deposit and withdraw a testing balance and see how it is going.
However, choosing a bd reputed casino might be a nightmare, especially when higher funds are involved. You my face a long and exhausting process requesting many documents or taking much time and low responses from the casino's team.

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May 09, 2024, 07:45:50 PM
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If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?
-No, KYC is highly frowned upon into this crypto space and on the time that people would be finding that KYC first before they could be able to play
then they would really be just simply skipping out and finding another one.

When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?
-As long you are dealing with a legit and reputable site then its not really something that you would really be needing to afraid of. Also, if you have done nothing
then why would be scared?


Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?

-It is really hard to believe that a gambler wont really be tending to their their winning just because of KYC issues. If ever this one happens then i dont see any
money laundering issue on here in casinos part.
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May 09, 2024, 09:25:04 PM
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I'm not sure and I cant imagine about hitting max payout in a casino since I'm small gambler only so I'm sure that my biggest win will not be something really huge that will not lead into KYC.
Lets say I have the chance to win so huge amount of money, whether it will be a nightmare or not, it will be depending on how the casino serve me.
It will be a nightmare if the casino make it hard for me in the verification process but if the casino is friendly enough then it will not be a nightmare.

Or if the casino you played has history of you just betting normal and suddenly you hit the mega jackpot or one of the biggest price, for sure they are  going to look at your account and then see it but normal, maybe there could be no KYC after all.

And that is the difference between landbase and online, if you win in landbase they can't deny you from giving you that win except for certain cases. But in online, it could be mandatory KYC, choice your poison.

 
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May 09, 2024, 09:29:00 PM
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I'm not sure and I cant imagine about hitting max payout in a casino since I'm small gambler only so I'm sure that my biggest win will not be something really huge that will not lead into KYC.
Lets say I have the chance to win so huge amount of money, whether it will be a nightmare or not, it will be depending on how the casino serve me.
It will be a nightmare if the casino make it hard for me in the verification process but if the casino is friendly enough then it will not be a nightmare.

Or if the casino you played has history of you just betting normal and suddenly you hit the mega jackpot or one of the biggest price, for sure they are  going to look at your account and then see it but normal, maybe there could be no KYC after all.

And that is the difference between landbase and online, if you win in landbase they can't deny you from giving you that win except for certain cases. But in online, it could be mandatory KYC, choice your poison.
There are platforms who would really be asking it out on having that KYC but just like on what been said above that if there's nothing something that you've been hiding then it wont really be an issue for you to comply on whats been asked because it is really that impossible that you wont be taking that winning just because you do really just give out importance of your identity or privacy.
Unless if we are talking $10 on here then it would be no brainer that people would choose not to do so but if we do speak even with that $1000 winning and asked out for some KYC
then majority of us wont really be that tending to let it skip and would really be that doing KYC immediately without questions asked. How much more if you do win up the jackpot or simply
talking about millions? You wont really be having no hesitance on doing so of course.

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May 10, 2024, 02:03:16 AM
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Most casinos nowadays don't let you do the KYC process until they request it, this means you will not get KYCed unless a lot of money or fraud is involved, but it would be nice if users could do the KYC process before deciding if to deposit or not.

Well, this time i have 3 questions for the community, i want to see what people think about how gambling works nowadays.

If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?

When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?

Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?

I mean KYC is pretty basic thing. They need to know who you are legally by gambling and casino regulations based on the geographical laws in which it resides. I guess for a casino they see that you can't pass the KYC requirement to claim the winnings therefore the transaction is void and the house wins. IF someone was to argue that in a court of law and they can't even answer some simple KYC questions I think they have some other problems that they make for them selves there. The casino knows this and thats why they get away with it.

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May 10, 2024, 07:42:44 AM
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I mean KYC is pretty basic thing. They need to know who you are legally by gambling and casino regulations based on the geographical laws in which it resides. I guess for a casino they see that you can't pass the KYC requirement to claim the winnings therefore the transaction is void and the house wins. IF someone was to argue that in a court of law and they can't even answer some simple KYC questions I think they have some other problems that they make for them selves there. The casino knows this and thats why they get away with it.
Do you think people won't give their KYC when they hit max win?

They will verify their accounts as fast as possible, even the casino ask documents that they didn't have yet, they will create it in order to withdraw their winnings. But, what if the casinos ask ridiculous or almost impossible KYC like street selfie?

KYC isn't the problem, the casino is.

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May 10, 2024, 08:56:39 AM
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I mean KYC is pretty basic thing. They need to know who you are legally by gambling and casino regulations based on the geographical laws in which it resides. I guess for a casino they see that you can't pass the KYC requirement to claim the winnings therefore the transaction is void and the house wins. IF someone was to argue that in a court of law and they can't even answer some simple KYC questions I think they have some other problems that they make for them selves there. The casino knows this and thats why they get away with it.
Casino can asked KYC anytime to their members and members must do if they wants to withdraw their money or don't wants to have a problem while they playing gambling on that casino. Doing KYC can avoids them to waits for some time, especially if they wants to withdraw their wins. Many gamblers doesn't like KYC because they thinks that they don't have to do that, especially if they playing gambling at the crypto casino. But with the regulations from the government makes them to obey the rules and if gamblers really doesn't wants to do KYC, they can search for the other casinos. But today, with the interfere from the governments, many casinos asked KYC to their members so gamblers will not gets casino that allows them to avoids KYC. But gamblers should search for the trust and reputable casino to avoids the problems after they doing KYC.

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Do you think people won't give their KYC when they hit max win?

They will verify their accounts as fast as possible, even the casino ask documents that they didn't have yet, they will create it in order to withdraw their winnings. But, what if the casinos ask ridiculous or almost impossible KYC like street selfie?

KYC isn't the problem, the casino is.

Yeah, if they require KYC for withdrawal, then they will provide it. That's it.

The thing is that there's no chance that there is a casino without KYC these days.

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If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?
If I know to myself that I will be betting huge then I will go for it. But since I won't be going that far, I am okay with the Level 1 or Level 2 KYC.

When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?
No, I don't think so. The KYC process ain't a scary thing unless you are illegally doing it. i.e. you are still a child, the money you are using ain't yours but from the credit of your parents. A max win is a max win and gambling sites should give it if the KYC is approved without any trouble.

Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?
They won't be keeping it. It's frozen and I think they will hand it to whatever part of the government who handles this kind of cases. I don't think a gambling site would just give themselves trouble with little money that they can profit just by staying in the business.

IMO, KYC should be taken seriously as there might be cases in which we could get a max win, just like you said. If ever that happens, we should be ready with our information so that we can withdraw our money as smoothly as possible.

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May 10, 2024, 02:09:17 PM
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Well, this time i have 3 questions for the community, i want to see what people think about how gambling works nowadays.
If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?

I would actually consider doing the KYC process before making a deposit but this is conditional.

This means that I would only submit my personal documents to trusted gambling websites that have proven their reputation when it comes to their length of stay and security. Also, I would also consider submitting all of my KYC documents to a gambling website that I am sure that I will stay and commit most of my bets to.

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When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?

In the first place, why would you be scared of getting a max win? Are you scared of submitting your KYC documents due to the fear of security or something else?

Again if you have nothing to hide, you should not be scared if you were asked by the gambling company to submit your documents. An innocent man fears no allegation against him.

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Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?

As far as I know, the gambling company have to comply with their local laws regarding this type of problem. Assuming that it was proven that the money deposited was indeed for schemes of money laundering, then the government would have complete custody of the money as the gambling company must make a local return and report to the former.
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If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?
I will if they can be trusted.
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When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?
That is a problem but the question is --if we just let our winning stay there? Or take the KYC option for the sake of that amount. We could be in trouble if the site's reputation is questionable.
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Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?
It is not a problem if we are informed about that at the start because we still have the option to use this platform or find another one.
If the urge of the government that all gambling sites will implement KYC, then we have no option but to submit. Otherwise, this will be the reason that I stop gambling.
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If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?
-No, KYC is highly frowned upon into this crypto space and on the time that people would be finding that KYC first before they could be able to play
then they would really be just simply skipping out and finding another one.

When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?
-As long you are dealing with a legit and reputable site then its not really something that you would really be needing to afraid of. Also, if you have done nothing
then why would be scared?


Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?

-It is really hard to believe that a gambler wont really be tending to their their winning just because of KYC issues. If ever this one happens then i dont see any
money laundering issue on here in casinos part.
Which legit and reputable gambling "site" as you say are you talking about please? Because unless you're playing at a fully non-custodial casino, that is to say a decentralized one that don't need you to make deposit, you will always be at risk to have to undergo an endless KYC process. It is not really illegal, especially in the offshore jurisdiction where they are hidden, so why they wouldn't use it?
Besides that, you think it's "really hard to believe that a gambler wont really be tending to their winning just because of KYC issues" but will you do if the casino ask you documents you haven't and you can't get in any way? It's the first time you heard of endless KYC process scams? You must be new in the crypto universe and you should be a little bit more cautious IMO because it can happens with any (dishonest) platform, not gambling ones only.

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May 12, 2024, 06:02:01 PM
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Most casinos nowadays don't let you do the KYC process until they request it, this means you will not get KYCed unless a lot of money or fraud is involved, but it would be nice if users could do the KYC process before deciding if to deposit or not.

Well, this time i have 3 questions for the community, i want to see what people think about how gambling works nowadays.

If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?

When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?

Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?

#1. Would i do it? Of course no. Asked by some KYC first before i do play its a no good for me and also there's no assurance that you would be able to hit up some max win. Therefore
it wouldnt be having no sense that you would be able to do so.

#2. If you do able to hit up that max win then pretty sure that you wont really be able to make yourself be mindful much about your privacy. The main thing that you would really be
having in mind is to get those winnings no matter what kind of situation it would be.

#3. Casino keeping up the money? User or winner didnt take those winnings? This is something an impossible thing to happen or
something which is unbelievable.

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May 12, 2024, 10:47:25 PM
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Most casinos nowadays don't let you do the KYC process until they request it, this means you will not get KYCed unless a lot of money or fraud is involved, but it would be nice if users could do the KYC process before deciding if to deposit or not.

Well, this time i have 3 questions for the community, i want to see what people think about how gambling works nowadays.

If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?

When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?

Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?
Totally agree with you in this one. I am a KYC apologist (cause hell it allows me to gamble on my favorite casinos lol) but at the end of the day some of them just don't sit right with me. For instance, on Stake you undergo different KYC verification processes for when you withdraw your funds, or when you make the deposit. You literally have to do it over again if you've already done it once which to me isn't that much since I'm a patient guy and I don't take my 5 minutes that seriously, but for blokes out there this isn't good.

Some casinos on the other hand as you said, execute KYC in exploitative ways, like not asking you to KYC when you deposit money but asking you for it once you win, or suspecting you of fraud which could either ban you and lock your funds forever, even though you're not. These are just some of the ways these casinos, whether reputable or not do to trick their people into doing this process. All because they are still under the impression that people hate KYC so much they'd try their hardest to avoid that shit. Which is totally untrue.

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Would definitely do, I just hope I remember it lol. I've pretty much given up on trying to skip it and there's a LOT of problems that can come up whenever you try to KYC late in the game, as proved obviously by a lot of other people. Would rather do it now than then since no matter what, I'm still going to do it.

As for max win, not really. I'd much rather be afraid of being in a casino with an ass support. Getting a max win on a casino with good support can potentially be pretty comfortable since they'd be willing to help you but with a bad support? Goodluck even finishing KYC>

Idk about the third one, that's more legal ish in terms of answers imo. Wouldn't say it's money laundering though since it's under the casinos own legal terms if I was asked about it.

 
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If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?

If I will be depositing significant amount of money, and I feel that I have the chance of good winnings, I may not submit KYC docs right away, but I will make sure that the details that I entered upon registration are my actual details. So if the casino asked further details/docs, I won't have any problem completing it.

When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?

You should not be afraid as long as you believe you are being truthful about all the details that you submit to them. Also, better play on a reputable casino/bookie, much better if they have active thread in this forum. Because if your complaint is valid, a lot of people will help you out to get what they owe from you. I guess, that's one perks of being here in the forum. So long you are being honest with your case.

Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?

I am not very well verse on this matter. But you need to carefully read the ToS of each site regarding their AML/KYC policy. As it may varies from one licensing authority to another. Better check their terms on how they will address the situation at hand. If they have the option to withdraw your money, of course, better withdraw it rather than fight them as it is hard to prove that you are not laundering the money. This is a long battle if you push thru.

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