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May 11, 2024, 09:36:39 PM
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There is a thread about a guy who created a thread about his bet and will make it his journal for betting

Hi everyone, I am going to attempt to turn 0.05 BTC into 1.7 BTC with football/soccer betting. I will be using this post as a journal for my bets.

I want to ask: Are Using A Journal or Spreadsheets Will Fave The Way For Addiction To Gambling? My reasoning is that by creating a spreadsheet or a journal, you are taking gambling seriously and looking for ways and a means to win in sports betting or luck-based games.

Does anyone here have their own journal or spreadsheets, and are you taking gambling seriously?

I think that only very very few person have such an excel spreadsheet or word document where they update it regularly by keeping track of everything they do.This is however not a paving way to addiction,this for me means to be extra cautious with what you do and if you have a look at your word or excel document and you spot heavy losses that is red flag or a bell of alarm that a smart person should interpret it as to stop gambling otherwise if he continues it is going to be bad and go from bad to worse.This can be as a last resort savior for people who keep such document.Personally I have never kept it as I mostly play slot machines and I know I am in deep red,looking for ways to stop gambling completely.

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May 11, 2024, 09:51:47 PM
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The last thing I'd do is creating a pattern or formula for gambling... WTH does that? Don't y'all save up some money just Incase any exegencies comes forth?.  Well, the stories I've heard so far won't cease anytime soon

The moment you begin to adopt this step, soon enough, it'll become a lifestyle - that means, you an addict already! The body stimulates the mind in most actions; like getting aquatinted with a certain habit overtime... I'd guess that's the last thing you'd ever want.
Y'all, if you don't wanna regret ever knowing how to gamble, stay away from this thread.

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May 11, 2024, 09:54:41 PM
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I think it's a rather a good thing IMO because it helps to stay objective on the situation and your condition actually. You're less likely to deny your losses and the time you spent on this activity with a journal or a spreadsheet tracking your results. So I think it could prevent addiction and gambling compulsion if you make it seriously. But you should keep in mind it's only a tool, it can help but it can't cure gambling addiction alone. People really affected by this condition need to see a doctor for this.

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May 11, 2024, 10:06:03 PM
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I use a spreadsheet for my sportsbets because I'd rather be able to know what I'm losing and not to overdo it. No other reason to be honest. I think holding a spreadsheet is like holding yourself accountable, which is good.
Before, I was like a random sportsbettor and doesn't do stuff with records until I have seen that it's a common thing to record your stuff and do things such as recording your bets to keep yourself on track. I find it odd before because it's completely a new world to me but then, I am the weird one that doesn't do records on related to finances. Yes, I'd say that this is related to finances because we spend money and just as how budgeting works, it should be the same as this.
I guess that it is hitting two birds with one stone, as you do journals, spreadsheets, manually or digitally. The thing is you're developing yourself and helping to do things on your own by tracking your own spending habits in your bets. This is a good structure for you to gain a skill for tasks like this, so it means that those gamblers that are doing journals have been multi-tasking for their own sake.

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May 11, 2024, 10:06:46 PM
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I can't even remember my bets from last day so I don't even want to start a spreadsheet as that will most likely drive me crazy haha with my pathetic choices + I don't really like to keep notes about my bets but I do like to track some certain teams in order to avoid them or to place bets on them. Per example , tonight in NHL , I don't think Hurricanes will go down 0-4 as they were favorites to win this NHL Stanley Cup.

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May 11, 2024, 10:16:19 PM
Last edit: May 11, 2024, 10:30:29 PM by AmoreJaz
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I use a spreadsheet for my sportsbets because I'd rather be able to know what I'm losing and not to overdo it. No other reason to be honest. I think holding a spreadsheet is like holding yourself accountable, which is good.
Before, I was like a random sportsbettor and doesn't do stuff with records until I have seen that it's a common thing to record your stuff and do things such as recording your bets to keep yourself on track. I find it odd before because it's completely a new world to me but then, I am the weird one that doesn't do records on related to finances. Yes, I'd say that this is related to finances because we spend money and just as how budgeting works, it should be the same as this.
I guess that it is hitting two birds with one stone, as you do journals, spreadsheets, manually or digitally. The thing is you're developing yourself and helping to do things on your own by tracking your own spending habits in your bets. This is a good structure for you to gain a skill for tasks like this, so it means that those gamblers that are doing journals have been multi-tasking for their own sake.

Very few gamblers are actually doing this practice - recording his bets. Because believe it or not, it is time consuming and you can't sustain such activity especially if you are a regular bettor. But if you are just an occasional bettor, it would not be a bothersome to do such task. It will also give you idea on how are you doing with predictions in sports. You can also get some hints on your next bets.

I've tried that once, as I wanted to see my betting prowess in basketball. Remember, in one game, there are a lot of betting lines that you can place your bets with. So I tried recording all my bets for that game and see if I can have profit at the end of the game. And I did have profits. But in my opinion, this is quite tedious if you will do this in your day to day betting. Good for you if you have so much time to spare, but if not, better take note your deposit and withdrawal amounts to see if you are on the losing or winning side.

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May 11, 2024, 10:20:48 PM
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I used to have a spreadsheets to document my bets. It used to include infos like the teams in the selection, the market, the odds, amount and result of the bet. I wanted a way to keep track of my bets so I can guage if I'm actually making profits or not. It seemed like a nice idea at the time but it didn't really work out.

For OP that is asking if it can contribute to gambling addition, I can't say for such but the fact remains that anybody that goes that extra miles to document their bets actually take gambling as a hustle and business and not something for fun. It has been escalated.

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May 11, 2024, 10:46:04 PM
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Does anyone here have their own journal or spreadsheets, and are you taking gambling seriously?

I do not have a personally made spreadsheet since the casino has our cash flow record and the statistics of our gambling performance.  Besides, I always look at gambling as an entertainment that can possibly give me profit so I do not take it seriously as a career or as a main source of income.  But I take it seriously when it comes to moderation and responsible gambling because I know that one slip of discipline can possibly trigger gambling addiction.
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May 11, 2024, 10:48:24 PM
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There is a thread about a guy who created a thread about his bet and will make it his journal for betting

Hi everyone, I am going to attempt to turn 0.05 BTC into 1.7 BTC with football/soccer betting. I will be using this post as a journal for my bets.

I want to ask: Are Using A Journal or Spreadsheets Will Fave The Way For Addiction To Gambling? My reasoning is that by creating a spreadsheet or a journal, you are taking gambling seriously and looking for ways and a means to win in sports betting or luck-based games.

Does anyone here have their own journal or spreadsheets, and are you taking gambling seriously?

I do not have a journal or any kind of way to register my wins or losses after each gambling session, since I am the kind of person who actually believes those tools are indeed a faster way to get trapped by gambling addiction. It is better just to slowly forget about losses and enjoy wins when they are big enough for us to buy something nice.
Since the house is supposed to always to over gamblers in the long term, having a gambling journal only encourages gamblers to continue to wager in the long term (for the sake of always having positive balance against the casino), that will ultimately finish with losses which will encourage further to gamble more and more and increase the wager.
So, that is what I personally think of those journals or registers. They are not good for the purpose of gambling being seen as a way to entertain ourselves and exclusively use money which we can afford to lose.

I had not seen that thread, by the way, I doubt that person will be able to achieve his goal (if he does, then congratulations).

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May 11, 2024, 11:23:44 PM
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There are individuals who may choose to keep their own journal or spreadsheet with regards to responsible gambling. They take a more serious approach to gambling and use this tool as a means of risk management and loss limitation. For them, journals or spreadsheets are tools for making data-based and more precise decisions.

However, for others, using a journal or spreadsheet can be an indication of addiction. If someone is too fixated on tracking every bet and its outcome, this may indicate that they are getting out of control with their gambling habits. This can lead them towards neglecting financial and personal tasks, wasting time and energy on other aspects of life.

Using a journal or spreadsheet to manage gambling can be a smart strategy, but vigilance for signs of addiction is key. Take action to ensure gambling remains healthy and responsible. If you detect that the use of these tools is impacting your life or triggering unwanted behavior, seek help and support immediately. Use a smart approach to maintain health and responsibility in gambling.

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There is a thread about a guy who created a thread about his bet and will make it his journal for betting

Hi everyone, I am going to attempt to turn 0.05 BTC into 1.7 BTC with football/soccer betting. I will be using this post as a journal for my bets.

I want to ask: Are Using A Journal or Spreadsheets Will Fave The Way For Addiction To Gambling? My reasoning is that by creating a spreadsheet or a journal, you are taking gambling seriously and looking for ways and a means to win in sports betting or luck-based games.

Does anyone here have their own journal or spreadsheets, and are you taking gambling seriously?
About this, I won't say I'm surprised, it is all about how we take betting. Some take betting as a casual extra activity where they can try their luck and have fun without laying so much seriousness to it, while others may take it seriously. Among those who take it seriously will surely be those who are trying to be thorough with it to the extent of having their gambling record. Either, I can't take gambling that seriously even though I am fully engaged. I have other things to rack my brain with than gambling, and my philosophy about it is that if I win, I win, and if I lose, I lose, life goes on. However, a thing that I do better in gambling is to make sure that I am committed to responsible gambling, that's just it.

As for your questions, the only way someone will have a journal for gambling will ever be for accountability and I do not think such a gambler can be addicted or be an irresponsible gambler doing that. The moment the person is addicted and irresponsible is the moment that he will even forget he has a gambling journal. Surely, this is not about the way to win or analyze better, even in sports betting, all the records are online for your consumption, and can even be stored in the brain for future use. For these, I think his motive is for proper recording and accountability.

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May 12, 2024, 06:20:33 AM
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There is a thread about a guy who created a thread about his bet and will make it his journal for betting

Hi everyone, I am going to attempt to turn 0.05 BTC into 1.7 BTC with football/soccer betting. I will be using this post as a journal for my bets.

I want to ask: Are Using A Journal or Spreadsheets Will Fave The Way For Addiction To Gambling? My reasoning is that by creating a spreadsheet or a journal, you are taking gambling seriously and looking for ways and a means to win in sports betting or luck-based games.

Does anyone here have their own journal or spreadsheets, and are you taking gambling seriously?

Nope, I don't take it so serious mate due to unavailability of my funds to be used for gambling. Sometimes I can bet for lottery at the local outlet on streets, but there's no focused emotions in times of losses.
Only luck can tell if winning moments will be for me, and I'm just thankful for those money I've bee using to contribute to gambling businesses particular with online betting. Having fun isn't bad but putting gambling to addiction will be worst.

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Nope, I don't take it so serious mate due to unavailability of my funds to be used for gambling. Sometimes I can bet for lottery at the local outlet on streets, but there's no focused emotions in times of losses.
Only luck can tell if winning moments will be for me, and I'm just thankful for those money I've bee using to contribute to gambling businesses particular with online betting. Having fun isn't bad but putting gambling to addiction will be worst.
You are a good gambler and you are gambling responsibly. It is like someone to be asking me if I should be having the money that I spent during weekends on beer on records, which is just small amount of money which is not even on every weekends. I gamble just during weekends because I am always exhausted during the weekdays with work, while I only use just small amount of money on gambling which is not even often. Why having records on a journal for something that is not that irrelevant in my money management.

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Well, addiction depends on the individual. Having a journal or spreadsheet of your gambling winnings and loss, won't define you as someone who is serious in gambling. I saw that post as well, and he's just doing ut for additional entertainment because other people would also be aware of what he wants to happen.Personally, addiction is more likely to exist with gamblers who never tracked their winnings and losses because they're more likely to just continue betting as much as they can. Using a journal or record will even help you decide with the amount you are about to engage for that day, week, or month. Not unless you'd allow emotions to take over you. There's a tendency that a player knowing how big his loss is, would push his way of winning by betting more until the desire of him was filled.
Yes, this is true on which whether you do have a journal or not, the risks of addiction or possibilities or probabilities would really be there because everything would really be just that depending into someones mind and if you are someone whose really that having that high hopes on making money with gambling then no matter what you would really be doing will really be having that kind of impact on which you are really that putting yourself into that potential addiction on which we know that it is really that too hard for you to get out once you've been addicted. This is something that you should really be having in your mind is that never ever make yourself having that kind of intent in mind about making money with gambling because this would make things got worst.

Having some tracking on your betting or trying out to achieve something isnt that bad because if this something that could give out that thrill then go ahead.
As long you are really that only spending on the amount that you have budgeted or allocated with that particular goal then it would really be just that fine.
Whatever tracking they do if they have an attitude to extend more because they think they are not satisfied with the result they get and think about betting more for taking a chance to recover then everything what they do would be useless. And they can still get affected on abusive action they do which lead into addiction.
But if they can handle so well all of those things they do and make those journals spreadsheets what OP mentioned as a guide to follow then maybe he could able to bet those feeling to have an urge to gamble since he could able to see if he's losing to much or seeing enough gains. Overall its all matter on the discipline of the person since if he can execute all according to his plans then for sure each action he do will be fine and he will think about checking the sheet before taking risky decisions.

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May 12, 2024, 09:24:01 AM
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No, I'm busy and I don't want to wasting my time.

Many people told we need to track our income and spending, so always record the money you make and every time you spend your money. It's used to make people able to manage their money and will not run out their money before they get paid in the next month. I would say it's bullshit, you don't have to track all of your income and spending, just adopt minimalism lifestyle, you won't spend money for unnecessary needs.

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Honestly, it's a lot of work. I've tried it before during the FIBA basketball league and I can say that it takes a lot of effort to put it all on the list especially if there are a lot of games that will happen in a day.
But I cannot say that I went through gambling addiction just by doing that. It just made me realize how much my winning and losing rates and I can say I've won some amount but didn't really feel it because I was also playing casino games while doing the sports betting in the said event.

It's not about taking it seriously, recording things can help to decide your next bet, and history could sometimes repeat itself so you can use that record in the spreadsheet and maybe increase your winning chance.

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May 12, 2024, 11:27:13 AM
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I can't even remember my bets from last day so I don't even want to start a spreadsheet as that will most likely drive me crazy haha with my pathetic choices + I don't really like to keep notes about my bets but I do like to track some certain teams in order to avoid them or to place bets on them. Per example , tonight in NHL , I don't think Hurricanes will go down 0-4 as they were favorites to win this NHL Stanley Cup.
I dont want to see my losses and that is why I do not record any of them.

I organize thinga but I do not want someone to see something that I leave on track that might have seen by my any relative.

You know family matters, it is always an issue if someone is a gambler. Always have been a negative impression.



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May 12, 2024, 12:32:20 PM
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Nope, I don't take it so serious mate due to unavailability of my funds to be used for gambling. Sometimes I can bet for lottery at the local outlet on streets, but there's no focused emotions in times of losses.
Only luck can tell if winning moments will be for me, and I'm just thankful for those money I've bee using to contribute to gambling businesses particular with online betting. Having fun isn't bad but putting gambling to addiction will be worst.
That means, you only use gambling to have fun and not to makes money while that's good for you because you can playing gambling without emotions. Many people makes their journal or spreadsheets because they wants to knows how much money they already used to playing gambling. But instead to check the money, that can makes them tempts to keeps playing gambling because they wants to gets their money back. We can makes a journal or spreadsheets but we must have good self control so we don't attract to comes back to the casino and have intention to recovers our lose. We can manage our funds that we used to playing gambling and apply limitations to avoids the big lose and that's our job to always control our funds to playing gambling. We can't lets ourselves spends much money to playing gambling because we must manages that money for our lives.

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May 12, 2024, 04:14:51 PM
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There is a thread about a guy who created a thread about his bet and will make it his journal for betting

Hi everyone, I am going to attempt to turn 0.05 BTC into 1.7 BTC with football/soccer betting. I will be using this post as a journal for my bets.

I want to ask: Are Using A Journal or Spreadsheets Will Fave The Way For Addiction To Gambling? My reasoning is that by creating a spreadsheet or a journal, you are taking gambling seriously and looking for ways and a means to win in sports betting or luck-based games.

Does anyone here have their own journal or spreadsheets, and are you taking gambling seriously?
About this, I won't say I'm surprised, it is all about how we take betting. Some take betting as a casual extra activity where they can try their luck and have fun without laying so much seriousness to it, while others may take it seriously. Among those who take it seriously will surely be those who are trying to be thorough with it to the extent of having their gambling record. Either, I can't take gambling that seriously even though I am fully engaged. I have other things to rack my brain with than gambling, and my philosophy about it is that if I win, I win, and if I lose, I lose, life goes on. However, a thing that I do better in gambling is to make sure that I am committed to responsible gambling, that's just it.

As for your questions, the only way someone will have a journal for gambling will ever be for accountability and I do not think such a gambler can be addicted or be an irresponsible gambler doing that. The moment the person is addicted and irresponsible is the moment that he will even forget he has a gambling journal. Surely, this is not about the way to win or analyze better, even in sports betting, all the records are online for your consumption, and can even be stored in the brain for future use. For these, I think his motive is for proper recording and accountability.

People like gambling, and your fun, responsible approach is great. And I respect that. Its about having fun while staying calm. Its significant to keep a gambling journal. Thats winning. Being professional. Talking about responsible gambling is crucial. Control and success management are the issues, not addiction. The notebook doesnt ruin fun. To improve it. Consider this: only play with what you can lose. You recover easily. Smart and strategic. The winners do it. Yes, some may laugh at a journal. I see it as a sign of a serious winner who appreciates the game and knows their boundaries. Its winning, I promise.

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May 12, 2024, 04:19:03 PM
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Honestly, it's a lot of work. I've tried it before during the FIBA basketball league and I can say that it takes a lot of effort to put it all on the list especially if there are a lot of games that will happen in a day.
But I cannot say that I went through gambling addiction just by doing that. It just made me realize how much my winning and losing rates and I can say I've won some amount but didn't really feel it because I was also playing casino games while doing the sports betting in the said event.

It's not about taking it seriously, recording things can help to decide your next bet, and history could sometimes repeat itself so you can use that record in the spreadsheet and maybe increase your winning chance.

Done this using my laptop and I don’t find it complicated thing to do since it just a simple copy paste once the result is out. Casino has a category for settled bets and summarized everything that makes it very easy to transfer on spreadsheet via computer.

Unless you are making hundred bets a day then this task is really complicated. But normal sports bettor/gambler usually have a few picks for the day while casino records are available under the profile transaction history. Some casino even have a statistics feature that shows your gambling progress on different time frames.

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