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May 09, 2024, 04:49:32 PM
Last edit: May 15, 2024, 03:22:01 PM by crynuxai
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Are you ready to delve into the world of Decentralized AI (#DeAI)?
Look no further, because Crynux is here, and it's the REAL #DeAI platform!
Now live on the Dymension testnet, Crynux invites everyone to be a part of this groundbreaking platform.
Just download the app, you can start running AI tasks and earning Crynux test tokens as rewards.
Start your journey here: https://docs.crynux.ai/node-hosting/start-a-node-mac


Crynux means crystallization and nucleation of decentralized AI,
where the decentralized mechanism mirrors the formation of a crystal in chemistry.
We aim to build a comprehensive Decentralized AI ecosystem.
Crynux has launched
  • Hydrogen Network for decentralized inference
  • Helium network for dynamic task schedule
  • now working on Lithium network for decentralized finetune.
This is just the beginning.
Crynux is committed to evolving the network continuously, akin to the process of nuclear fusion.

Here's why Crynux stands out, just like BTCBitcoin:
  • Permissionless: No application forms, no whitelists. Everyone can join Crynux network with the app.
  • Consensus on Chain: Unlike many other so-called "decentralized" projects, Crynux runs its consensus protocol on-chain, avoiding the pitfalls of centralized model hosting.


We are a team of engineers and researchers from Google.
We have the earliest engineers who built Tensorflow distributed training and edge inference;
the researcher who built factuality and retrieval augmented mechanisms in Gemini;
the first author and most cited researcher who invented Federated Learning.
We are backed by top angel investors behind Stability AI, BitTensor and many other leading AI Web3 projects.

Join our Discord community to start earning credits today: https://discord.gg/PaktVxeYXG

Don't miss your chance to be a part of the future of DeAI with Crynux!
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May 14, 2024, 06:48:18 PM
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Explore the exciting realm of Decentralized AI (DeAI) with our groundbreaking survey—the first of its kind.
We make the first systematic definition of DeAI, analyze risks and challenges, and explore solutions, especially in the context of large models.

This comprehensive survey covers the techniques that are applied to DeAI: privacy-preserved machine learning, verification of computation, cryptography, LLM risks and security, distributed training.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/380564678_A_Review_on_Decentralized_Artificial_Intelligence_in_the_Era_of_Large_Models

We are now working on the open-sourced gitbook with more details,
welcome to collaborate to provide your insightful knowledge: https://deai.gitbook.io/

We will start a serial of blog posts and tweets for educational purpose, easier to follow, more fun to read.
Don't miss it:
  https://blog.crynux.ai/
  https://x.com/crynuxai

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this is a really interesting EARLY project with real tech focused on solving real problems (a refreshing change!)

So why is it interesting? Well without going into the depths of AI models and cryptography there are some fundamental issues with securely scaling AI on the blockchain.

This is just one of the problems crynux is looking to solve, whi I think is pretty exciting.

As crynuxai mentioned the team is amazingly talented ex Google (Tensorflow), ex Gemini and includes the inventor of Federated Learning.

So new tech and genius team...

Testnet is live now - join at https://discord.gg/DATZDZ5wJX
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this is a really interesting EARLY project with real tech focused on solving real problems (a refreshing change!)

So why is it interesting? Well without going into the depths of AI models and cryptography there are some fundamental issues with securely scaling AI on the blockchain.

This is just one of the problems crynux is looking to solve, whi I think is pretty exciting.

As crynuxai mentioned the team is amazingly talented ex Google (Tensorflow), ex Gemini and includes the inventor of Federated Learning.

So new tech and genius team...

Testnet is live now - join at https://discord.gg/DATZDZ5wJX

hi crynuxai's cousin.

lol that shit has 400 followers on twitter, and it's not followed by anyone "of value". i doubt it's the bitcoin of AI.
probably a couple of 3rd world country devs who launched this from their garage and are hoping to make a few $
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thanks for the sceptism which is welcomed

i agree marketing isn't the strength here...yet

what did you think of the research paper? https://www.researchgate.net/publication/377567611_Crynux_Hydrogen_Network_H-Net_Decentralized_AI_Serving_Network_on_Blockchain

how do you quantify value?
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thanks for the sceptism which is welcomed

i agree marketing isn't the strength here...yet

what did you think of the research paper? https://www.researchgate.net/publication/377567611_Crynux_Hydrogen_Network_H-Net_Decentralized_AI_Serving_Network_on_Blockchain

how do you quantify value?

do you really expect me or anyone to read that wall of text? you're right, marketing/communication/addressing normal people isn't your forte.

value on twitter? arf, that's a tricky one since twitter is a huge pile of shit. but if i had to, i'd say it's anyone known in the space, whether it's an influencer, a dev, a ceo... anyone really who could have spotted that you are the bitcoin of ai (lol). apparently, no one did.

look, i don't know you and the odds are you're most likely what i said, maybe a couple of teens who thought they could make a few $ from the last crypto trend, AI.
look at this place, most projects advertized here are just that. no one of value (yes that term again) promotes its project here. everyone knows bitcointalk's is artificial, a board full of airdrop hunters trying to make a few bucks from projects like yours.

the bitcoin of ai (sorry but this is killing me) would use twitter, discord, telegram, kols, make partnerships, look for a decent launchpad to promote them a bit.
you? you're here with your two accounts.
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May 15, 2024, 02:08:20 PM
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thanks again for your comments - it's really useful to get the feedback

in terms of the research paper I do understand not everyone has a tech mind/skill set; for ease here are the highlights:

- Crynux Hydrogen Network (H-Net): A groundbreaking decentralized AI service network
- Uses blockchain technology for efficient task execution and participant integrity
- Protects against malicious actors through a robust consensus mechanism
- Combines theoretical methods and economic strategies to improve authentication
- Features dual-phase pHash disclosure and sequential node selection to prevent manipulation
- Implements collateral-based penalties to discourage malicious behavior
- Introduces Relay for enhanced network usability and efficiency
- Showcases the Image Generator as an example of Crynux dApp development
- Demonstrates H-Net's versatility and potential for various applications
- Enables a secure, transparent, and efficient future for AI serving

i personally don't agree with the "bitcoin of AI" either - moreso a legitimate highly scalable AI blockchain

i do still see value in BTC talk - yes you have to pick through it but there are gems to be found too Smiley
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May 15, 2024, 03:38:19 PM
Last edit: May 15, 2024, 03:59:07 PM by crynuxai
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thanks for the sceptism which is welcomed

i agree marketing isn't the strength here...yet

what did you think of the research paper? https://www.researchgate.net/publication/377567611_Crynux_Hydrogen_Network_H-Net_Decentralized_AI_Serving_Network_on_Blockchain

how do you quantify value?

do you really expect me or anyone to read that wall of text? you're right, marketing/communication/addressing normal people isn't your forte.

value on twitter? arf, that's a tricky one since twitter is a huge pile of shit. but if i had to, i'd say it's anyone known in the space, whether it's an influencer, a dev, a ceo... anyone really who could have spotted that you are the bitcoin of ai (lol). apparently, no one did.

look, i don't know you and the odds are you're most likely what i said, maybe a couple of teens who thought they could make a few $ from the last crypto trend, AI.
look at this place, most projects advertized here are just that. no one of value (yes that term again) promotes its project here. everyone knows bitcointalk's is artificial, a board full of airdrop hunters trying to make a few bucks from projects like yours.

the bitcoin of ai (sorry but this is killing me) would use twitter, discord, telegram, kols, make partnerships, look for a decent launchpad to promote them a bit.
you? you're here with your two accounts.


We appreciate any constructive feedbacks.

Do you have suggestions where we should promote Crynux besides bitcointalk?
Thanks to  bitcointalk, hundreds of users joined our discord group, and start node to execute AI tasks and earn tokens.
And now we have more nodes and total computing FLOPs than some projects with tens of millions dollar market cap

We are also working hard to build more partnerships.
Currently we are on Dymension, many Dymension community members have noticed us. We are also building bittensor subnet.
If you have any connection that can help us build more partnerships, I'm more than happy to talk to you.

I understand the paper is a lengthy text wall, we will create a series of blog posts and tweets for educational purpose, much shorter, much easier to understand.
After we build what we described in our survey to build complete DeAI, we will become the bitcoin of DeAI, and gain more consensus among influencers.
This takes a process.

I feel sorry our community member was involved to this debate (probably my fault to make a suspicious advertisement here).
If you have any questions or doubts, feel free to talk to me directly.

We coders do not judge people by where they come from, or where they code, but by their quality of code instead.
Welcome to fork our code, create issues in https://github.com/crynux-ai
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ah dymension, now that talks to me.
also, the nodes.

well, the best marketing you could do is use those two things but i'm guessing you thought of it: an airdrop for dym stakers and another one for your node runners.

i'll be honest with you, i haven't looked much into your project. the things i said are enough for me not to. there are hundreds of projects to look at so if some don't tick most boxes, you look at the ones who do. plus AI? well i've seen a lot of shit projects being launched and like i said being obvious cash grabs so now i don't trust easily. the thing that usually makes me run away from them is their discord chat. if you look at serious projects, their chats are mostly about tech, with customer support channels and stuff. on the contrary, the not so serious ones are the ones full of bots/airdrop hunters saying "hi", "gm" all day and where mods have no clue what they're doing here.

about how to promote yourself? well if you have to ask, then maybe you shouldn't be running a project at all.
do you have a budget? if not, where will your liquidity come from? what are your tokenomics? is anything reserved for advisors/kols/airdrops etc...?
were you in dubai? do you go to crypto conferences? do you know anyone in this space, do you have connections? can you set up partnerships? do you do AMAs on tg, discord?
i'm also not saying bitcointalk is bad (well it's not the best lol), it's still exposure so you might as well take it.

as for my connections, i used to have quite a few 3 yrs ago... now not so much (semi-retired here) and it's really not something i do or have time to do, sorry. plus... i don't know you. and i won't burn myself for someone i don't know.
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Last edit: May 16, 2024, 07:24:44 AM by crynuxai
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ah dymension, now that talks to me.
also, the nodes.

well, the best marketing you could do is use those two things but i'm guessing you thought of it: an airdrop for dym stakers and another one for your node runners.

i'll be honest with you, i haven't looked much into your project. the things i said are enough for me not to. there are hundreds of projects to look at so if some don't tick most boxes, you look at the ones who do. plus AI? well i've seen a lot of shit projects being launched and like i said being obvious cash grabs so now i don't trust easily. the thing that usually makes me run away from them is their discord chat. if you look at serious projects, their chats are mostly about tech, with customer support channels and stuff. on the contrary, the not so serious ones are the ones full of bots/airdrop hunters saying "hi", "gm" all day and where mods have no clue what they're doing here.

about how to promote yourself? well if you have to ask, then maybe you shouldn't be running a project at all.
do you have a budget? if not, where will your liquidity come from? what are your tokenomics? is anything reserved for advisors/kols/airdrops etc...?
were you in dubai? do you go to crypto conferences? do you know anyone in this space, do you have connections? can you set up partnerships? do you do AMAs on tg, discord?
i'm also not saying bitcointalk is bad (well it's not the best lol), it's still exposure so you might as well take it.

as for my connections, i used to have quite a few 3 yrs ago... now not so much (semi-retired here) and it's really not something i do or have time to do, sorry. plus... i don't know you. and i won't burn myself for someone i don't know.

Thanks for your advice!
We DO have plan to airdrop to Dym stakers, and will convert testnet token of node runners in airdrop.
In our discord group, we have serious channels for DeAI research, and tech discussion, although not as active as you could imagine.

We are replanning our tokenomics, with a small portion on pre-mine.
The team takes a very small portion of premine, and earns some dev fees in the future (for 20 years).

Fortunately, we have some savings that support us to work without any income (actually we have if considering investment return).
And our product is serverless and uses GPU@home, no need to buy or rent expensive GPUs, so the cost is not too much.
After some private sale, and backed by famous VCs, we will be exposed to more events you mentioned.
We just show up and give a lightning intro in yesterday's Dymension community call.

Thanks again for your advice.
Put us on radar, get to know us more.
I know you are looking for real projects that does real work. Nothing can be more real than all the code and paper we wrote.
I hope in the future, we can convert you to be our evangelist (or other forms of spreader if you believe in other or no religion).
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