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Nothing will happen, everything will still return to normal life, after all, gambling is not a source of life that can provide many benefits to its users, BTW, it seems you drink too much so you are talking a little too far, how can you get $ 200 to become $ 100k every day? , gambling is not a source of income for some people, they can still work and do business or trade, no one is harmed even though gambling does not exist at all, you are discussing online gambling, of course you already know what the use of VPN on the internet is, so any country that prohibits it If people like to gamble they will do many things to gamble at online casinos. Technology has become more sophisticated and online casinos are very easy, in fact new ones appear every day, lots of different types, so you don't need to worry too much about losing access to gambling, after all, your government won't do much work to prohibit public access, the point is that what you say is a little out of line. In the minds of the gamblers here, nothing would happen if without online gambling everything would go on as usual even though there are bad effects that occur but they are not too dominant. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 12, 2024, 03:16:42 PM |
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It is wrong to assume that if the government put an end to gambling people will die of hunger. What a stupid thought is that, like the whole people in the world are into gambling. Even if we find it to be that way, is everyone winning every day in gambling? What of those who haven't won a dime from gambling for weeks or months, have they died out of hunger? No, is your answer.
However, what will then make someone die, if the government stops gambling in the future? Laziness. Someone who is lazy and refuses not to work than depends on gambling for a living. Stopping gambling will at least help the gambler to save up money for themselves and their families than losing money to a gambling house
I'm not doubting that if the government stopped gambling it won't affect everyone but it'll definitely touch someone people's life's. Why cause their someone people which they're sacked from work or quite working due to one or two reasons, and this set of people only benefits from gambling all day they do lose but they don't care about that. So if eventually the government tries to end gambling don't you think this set of people will definitely feel it mostly?
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May 12, 2024, 04:04:33 PM |
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Earlier this morning I was going to work in a bus I over heard, some one complaining very badly that if the government tries to put an end to gambling. That many people will die in hungry with this our economy which nothing is working, no work for people food are at higher amount in their and some people are benefiting from gambling this days, that mostly him his benefiting from gambling.
That with $200 he can stake and win about $100000 daily something that you won't even struggle to get, they can't even pay someone at work monthly up to that amount. So if their is no more online gambling that means definitely there won't be no more gambling at all. So how will you cope in your country if eventually they put an end to online gambling?
OP those people don't know anything about gambling, gambling is not a profession or a job opportunity where you earn from it steadily so I don't understand the aspects that those people are being very positive about gambling. There are people that win gambling but they don't win regularly so gambling is not a reliable source of income as to say that if the government shut it down people will begin to suffer or feel the impact. Gambling is just for fun and to be played at leisure and with a spared funds so anyone who takes gambling as a hobby or means of earning a livelihood may end up going broke some day. Gambling is multi-billion business and the same provides big revenue to the government in different ways. This is the reason why governments used to take a neutral stand without opposing and not supporting gambling. Nowadays everywhere it is possible to see the promotion of gambling platforms. People have got used to it, if there exists a situation in which gambling is stopped. We can see the start of more gambling houses functioning illegally. This used to be more dangerous than having a regulated platform.
That is just it, gambling is too broad for the government to be stopped and just like you said they generates revenue for the government and for a very long time government have been neutral on anything concerning gambling i remembered a time when parents in a particular state of my country protested about gambling to be shutdown because their children were getting too involved in gambling and steals their money to play gamble but the government didn't listen to them at all. Gambling is a game of choice, no body forces anyone to play so if you can't control your emotions in gambling the best is to quit. You are right about gambling going illegal if stopped because a lot of people have really possessed the habit of gambling so if it is being stopped people can still gamble secretly or they fall back to physical gambling ( person to person gambling ) without the government knowing about it. In the past when gambling have not yet gone this vast people do gamble secretly before it became open to the extent that it is being publicized and advertised every where both physically and on social media. There is no way you will access the Internet without coming across some sites or individuals offering gambling predictions. So that is the extent gambling have gone it has become a normal way of life of so many people. just as you said that if the government stops gambling people will still go back to the physical gambling, but do you know that some countries do see the physical gambling as illegal of which if they caught you doing that you might be sentence to jail. But this days you don't know who gambles or not but you only hard of someone winning. And currently now most people won't go back to that type of gambling anymore, cause it seems insane to them and social media have made so many people got addicted to gambling and lazy cause they don't go out to gamble they can stay at anywhere and place a bet. And that'll definitely affect the addicted ones only and those people who takes gambling as their source of incomes.
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May 12, 2024, 04:44:29 PM |
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That with $200 he can stake and win about $100000 daily something that you won't even struggle to get, they can't even pay someone at work monthly up to that amount. So if their is no more online gambling that means definitely there won't be no more gambling at all. So how will you cope in your country if eventually they put an end to online gambling?
I guess what you mean here is N200 to win N100,000, which I have seen many people archive even more, but they can't boast of making that happen on a regular basis because they don't control the game. If it's that simple, then the casino and gambling industries would have shut down by now. But it's very unfortunate that those guys can be picturing gambling as a means of survival when the outcome is not always guaranteed. They have time and a chance to get a real job that can sustain them rather than depending on gambling. The fact that he sees gambling as the fastest means of making money without struggling about it is the problem. What happens if gambling is entirely put to an end? I'm sure he will be starting his life all over again. $100,000 is quite a lot to earn daily (that is if this information is true anyway). Yea, some persons can really be very skilled in gambling, thereby increasing their chances of winning, but a visionary gambler who understands that gambling is all about luck will create an alternative source of income from the money he makes from gambling. This will help him not to over rely on gambling and also help find a balance in his life if something eventually happens to gambling. No one should be advised to concentrate on gambling alone, even if they are always lucky with it. Exactly, the only thing I think will be affected if gambling is put to an end is those who work in gambling. Of course, many people is put to an end is those who work in gambling. Of course, many people will lose their jobs, but the concept that many people will not have a chance to gain a lot of profit because of gambling is a big no. Okay, OP, give an example, article, or any kind of proof that gambling can generate a huge amount of money for a gambler in an instant, because I'm sure more gamblers are losing a huge amount just because they are thinking that they could hit a big jackpot and turn their lives upside down. That's why its hilarious that OP think gambling in that way, maybe he is also delusional and wanting to earn big in gambling, little advise OP if you continue that then just maybe your life will not be in a good path. Yea, only those who are employed to work in casinos, betting shops and other gambling platforms (including owners of these betting platforms) have the right to complain and feel sad if gambling is eventually put to an end. Every other gambler out there will have to fall back to something else which will be difficult to do if they can't plan their lives now. Nothing will happen, everything will still return to normal life, after all, gambling is not a source of life that can provide many benefits to its users,
I have seen quite a number of gamblers who do nothing all day except gambling, I mean those gamblers we tag as Irresponsible. A lot will change in their lives. For the first few months or even years, they will have to struggle to adapt to a new way of living a live they are not used to. Their normal live is gambling, so adjusting will be difficult. I am not interested in those gamblers who have other sources of income, I am talking about those gamblers who rely on nothing aside gambling.
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May 12, 2024, 04:46:38 PM |
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just as you said that if the government stops gambling people will still go back to the physical gambling, but do you know that some countries do see the physical gambling as illegal of which if they caught you doing that you might be sentence to jail. But this days you don't know who gambles or not but you only hard of someone winning. And currently now most people won't go back to that type of gambling anymore, cause it seems insane to them and social media have made so many people got addicted to gambling and lazy cause they don't go out to gamble they can stay at anywhere and place a bet. And that'll definitely affect the addicted ones only and those people who takes gambling as their source of incomes. Physical gambling is still sought-after in many countries FYI. It's way easier to gain access to physical gambling houses, especially the illegal ones since they won't be asking for any official documentation or something like that before you can play. Here in the Philippines alone, even if online gambling is more prevalent, you can still see a lot of people getting interested to local pubs and gambling houses just because they can easily play with little to no questions asked. If they were to completely ban online gambling here, illegal gambling houses will still prevail and might even flourish since the law enforcement themselves are protecting these places--with a fee, of course.
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May 12, 2024, 06:08:42 PM |
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If governments has to put an end to gambling it actually won't hurt the people but the government itself as we all know it has huge taxation in it and for me that action will help average people to not use their hard earned money on something that does not guarantee any return.
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May 12, 2024, 06:40:30 PM |
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Well if online gambling would ever stop someday, those who are invested in it are going to be the most affected ones from that. But even if it happens people would basically make another alternative for it, because this is how the world of business functions. Onsite and physical casinos are still gonna be there so people also can go back to the traditional casinos because till this day traditional casinos are still there and still have many people going there frequently.
When you said people can starve and be hungry and all, gambling was never a main source of income to begin with, it is just an entertaining activity, people still have their jobs and the world is full of opportunities. Many countries don't allow gambling it is completely forbidden, people there live a normal life and they are not starving so I guess people can live without gambling and casinos.
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May 12, 2024, 11:22:19 PM |
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If governments has to put an end to gambling it actually won't hurt the people but the government itself as we all know it has huge taxation in it and for me that action will help average people to not use their hard earned money on something that does not guarantee any return.
It will do in both sides. For gamblers, it will have huge impact to those regularly gambling, they will make anything to do it by their own or group of gamblers to do the activity or going fully online. Much worse for those problematic gamblers. For governments, yes,it will have an impact to taxation as you have said.
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May 13, 2024, 09:57:56 AM |
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Earlier this morning I was going to work in a bus I over heard, some one complaining very badly that if the government tries to put an end to gambling. That many people will die in hungry with this our economy which nothing is working, no work for people food are at higher amount in their and some people are benefiting from gambling this days, that mostly him his benefiting from gambling.
That with $200 he can stake and win about $100000 daily something that you won't even struggle to get, they can't even pay someone at work monthly up to that amount. So if their is no more online gambling that means definitely there won't be no more gambling at all. So how will you cope in your country if eventually they put an end to online gambling?
To put an end to gambling is meaningless because people will always gamble on money, regardless casinos are legal or not. If they prohibit it, then there will be underground casinos and that will cause more harm than good. If poverty is high in your country, don't expect that gambling will give it any good but it will really increase your employment rate. For example, in my country, there are many casinos and they hire a lot of people, including dealers, shufflers, software developers, project managers, designers, customer support and etc... They probably hire a total of up to 10K people. If they put an end to gambling, up to 10K people will become jobless and gambling restriction is not going to put an end to poverty.
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May 13, 2024, 10:18:24 AM |
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To put an end to gambling is meaningless because people will always gamble on money, regardless casinos are legal or not. If they prohibit it, then there will be underground casinos and that will cause more harm than good. If poverty is high in your country, don't expect that gambling will give it any good but it will really increase your employment rate. For example, in my country, there are many casinos and they hire a lot of people, including dealers, shufflers, software developers, project managers, designers, customer support and etc... They probably hire a total of up to 10K people. If they put an end to gambling, up to 10K people will become jobless and gambling restriction is not going to put an end to poverty.
That's one thing the OP should understand, maybe in his country lots of individuals gambling as a means of making money or a means of earning a living but that's wrong, the concept of gambling wasn't to enrich individuals but should be taken as a means of fun or entertainment and even if one has an intention of earning from it, It should be taken as a side hustle and not as a major source of income cause success in it is not guaranteed. And even if they're to shut down gambling it's not going to affect the general society, but only individuals in your country, anyways they'll still find other means of survival cause you can't tell me gambling is the only way people survive in your country, however I think it's the casino owners that would be more worried of losing their business but I doubt if that would be possible due to the task generated from casinos to the government except maybe a government discovers that lots of it's citizens use it for money laundry that's when they'll be forced to step in.
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May 13, 2024, 02:23:46 PM |
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Well if online gambling would ever stop someday, those who are invested in it are going to be the most affected ones from that. But even if it happens people would basically make another alternative for it, because this is how the world of business functions. Onsite and physical casinos are still gonna be there so people also can go back to the traditional casinos because till this day traditional casinos are still there and still have many people going there frequently.
When you said people can starve and be hungry and all, gambling was never a main source of income to begin with, it is just an entertaining activity, people still have their jobs and the world is full of opportunities. Many countries don't allow gambling it is completely forbidden, people there live a normal life and they are not starving so I guess people can live without gambling and casinos.
Online gambling is just one of the basic amenities of modern society, except this amenity includes additional amenities, so society can still get through a world without online gambling but the benefits for many sides will not respect this termination action because for people, it is an activity to relieve stress, for businessmen, it is a form to get more gold and for the government, operating properly with regulations will be one of the economic sources that compensate for many aspects
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Nothing will happen, everything will still return to normal life, after all, gambling is not a source of life that can provide many benefits to its users, BTW, it seems you drink too much so you are talking a little too far, how can you get $ 200 to become $ 100k every day? , gambling is not a source of income for some people, they can still work and do business or trade, no one is harmed even though gambling does not exist at all, you are discussing online gambling, of course you already know what the use of VPN on the internet is, so any country that prohibits it If people like to gamble they will do many things to gamble at online casinos. Technology has become more sophisticated and online casinos are very easy, in fact new ones appear every day, lots of different types, so you don't need to worry too much about losing access to gambling, after all, your government won't do much work to prohibit public access, the point is that what you say is a little out of line. In the minds of the gamblers here, nothing would happen if without online gambling everything would go on as usual even though there are bad effects that occur but they are not too dominant. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I think if online gambling will be banned and vanish, then most likely people will return to traditional casinos so it’s really not a big deal actually since people can still gamble through going into physical casinos just like the old times. But I doubt if we will reach this point that online gambling will have an end, maybe for some selected games that can easily attract addiction and ruin their lives, but probably for other regular games, they will continue to operate it and will continue to promote it online.
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May 13, 2024, 03:19:31 PM |
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Well if online gambling would ever stop someday, those who are invested in it are going to be the most affected ones from that. But even if it happens people would basically make another alternative for it, because this is how the world of business functions. Onsite and physical casinos are still gonna be there so people also can go back to the traditional casinos because till this day traditional casinos are still there and still have many people going there frequently.
When you said people can starve and be hungry and all, gambling was never a main source of income to begin with, it is just an entertaining activity, people still have their jobs and the world is full of opportunities. Many countries don't allow gambling it is completely forbidden, people there live a normal life and they are not starving so I guess people can live without gambling and casinos.
Online gambling is just one of the basic amenities of modern society, except this amenity includes additional amenities, so society can still get through a world without online gambling but the benefits for many sides will not respect this termination action because for people, it is an activity to relieve stress, for businessmen, it is a form to get more gold and for the government, operating properly with regulations will be one of the economic sources that compensate for many aspects If, I don't think it'll happen, online gambling is eradicated, nothing would change. Gambling continues! Although since after COVID the world renowned internet users embraced online gambling as a means of participating in gaming. However, that doesn't mean people weren't gambling before the institution of the online gambling business. The world economy is also impacted by online gambling which also benefits the government. Players don't actually depend on gambling to feed as Op said in his write up. The only wrong thing is the way gamblers made themselves to be seen in the society. Online gambling happened to be very noisy compared to offline gambling which erupted such views from non gamblers. It's true that lots of mischievous people participate in gambling, but it doesn't change the notion and objectives of online gambling. Which provides a strong avenue for comfortability and relaxation for players. Respectfully, online gambling platforms are law abiding and have never boycotted any rule issued to them by the government. Hence, the online gambling niche is still organized and players on the other hand will continue to gamble even if online gaming never existed.
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reading OP's post whether this is a fairy tale or a true story. If it's real, get 100,000$ per day. I doubt that person. Of course, the gambling website owner will monitor the account, so can get big wins every day. and it's certainly not easy with capital of 200$ to become 100,000$ unless the website is hit by a bug. because yesterday my friend got information about a crypto casino bug on the forum just because a small coin swap turned into thousands $$
This is obviously a big fat lie. Who dears win $100k from casino on a daily basis? Come to think if it, if everyone in there place is winning such amount everyday, that means the casino will short down. Maybe he said a huge amount as a show off and not really because he wins such amount on daily basis or it could also be that he has been lucky before and won jackpots of that amount and hoping to win such amount again in the future before his dreams gets cut short by the government trying to ban gambling. Am just thinking how possible it is to win such amount daily, there is no way that has been possible before now, even the best gambler can not make such win daily.
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If government finally bans gamble, people will live their normal lives as if gambling never existed. There are some countries that gambling is banned and the citizens are still happy enjoying themselves with other means of fun to entertain themselves.
If gamble is stopped, it will help more people to be responsible because a lot of people started gambling for profit just like the guy OP mentioned in his post. Some people see gamble as a job to them and this is where they got it wrong because gamble will only frustrate and make them suffer from addiction, due to chasing of their losses.
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May 14, 2024, 04:21:56 AM |
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So how will you cope in your country if eventually they put an end to online gambling?
I think most governments will find ways to manage and collect taxes from this type of business. If it is intentionally banned, people will find ways to play on websites with servers located abroad, and thus people's money will accidentally flow abroad. This situation is happening in my own country. Gambling is one of people's entertainment needs, and it is very difficult to prohibit them from gambling when these types of gambling are now heavily promoted in the media. My country is also gradually realizing that, so there are drafts to amend the law to allow some forms of gambling to operate, including online gambling. If managed well, they can both minimize risks for players and ensure that gambling activities are conducted in a transparent manner. Therefore, I think a certain country (including your country) banning online gambling will only be a temporary solution, and then they will legalize this form of gambling.
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May 14, 2024, 05:18:28 AM |
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Have you ever heard of people that talk out of their asses? Because that's probably the kind of person that you've overheard is, there's no way that you can easily do that kind of thing with gambling and I'm pretty sure that whatever he's talking about, it's not the truth and there's no other way around it besides the matter of fact. Maybe he's right about the part where if gambling were to be dismantled that a lot would go hungry, I don't agree with the a lot part though, unless of course these casinos are building soup kitchens, sponsoring child education, and just generally giving back to community then definitely wouldn't disagree that a lot of people would starve but the only people that would be affected when this happens are the workers and the management, maybe some of the management might survive but I don't know but anything other than that, this person you're talking about is in over his head.
Yes, you are totally correct but it's also important to have an understanding of the impact when misused, especially to those who are really struggling with addiction, so why it put food in some people table, helps in education and all that you have said but we should also remember the negative impacts or consequences on individuals and the society at large like financial problems as a result of gambling addiction etc. So while you are right, let's take the safety and wellbeing of the individuals and the society as it can cause depression, mental stress etc. so considering both the negatives and positives to create safer and more awareness and supportive environment for all.
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May 14, 2024, 05:33:11 AM |
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That with $200 he can stake and win about $100000 daily something that you won't even struggle to get, they can't even pay someone at work monthly up to that amount. So if their is no more online gambling that means definitely there won't be no more gambling at all. So how will you cope in your country if eventually they put an end to online gambling?
This seems impossible to happen as we are now in the era where everything can be done via the internet and the Internet is already our need in our day-to-day life. There are some advantages and disadvantages, best advantage for me is it will reduce gambling addiction as gambling will be less accessible. Disadvantage could be loss of revenue for some businesses.
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I doubt that will happen but let's just use the "What if it happens?"
Okay, first, there's going to be a lot of people that will lose their jobs. Imagine how many employees are there. From the Marketing team, the Financial team, the Advertisers, the developers, and those who are in the office. That's a lot of jobs.
Secondly, the tax that is coming from this gambling site, is also a lot of money that helps grow the economy of wherever the gambling site is erected.
Finally, the people who are entertained by gambling. Sports bettors for example. It's a good chance to boost the excitement for the game and without it, I think it will just be a normal football, basketball, or whatever sport a gambler prefers. I think a lot of money is coming in and out from the sector and it would be a waste if they do it illegally than just choosing the legal path. Wasted money without any third party getting some profits out of it and worst it could start an increase in violence and criminal activities.
I say, regulating it is the best option.
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May 14, 2024, 01:32:52 PM |
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If government finally bans gamble, people will live their normal lives as if gambling never existed. There are some countries that gambling is banned and the citizens are still happy enjoying themselves with other means of fun to entertain themselves.
If gamble is stopped, it will help more people to be responsible because a lot of people started gambling for profit just like the guy OP mentioned in his post. Some people see gamble as a job to them and this is where they got it wrong because gamble will only frustrate and make them suffer from addiction, due to chasing of their losses.
Some people will still search for the ways to keeps playing gambling and will used a secret places to gathers those people to playing gambling. The government can't stops this as those people will not easily to invite other people who likes playing gambling because they don't wants their governments knows about that and catch them. Maybe it's good if gambling is stopped by the government, but the governments must searching for the way how they can gives another jobs to the casino employees. If casino is closed, many employees will lose their jobs and the government must gives solution for this. It's a dilemma as the government wants to stops people from gambling but they also needs to thinks about the casino employee's destiny. Maybe the governments can use a strict rules for people who wants to playing gambling and not just closed without thinks much.
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