JollyGood's Low Quality Assumptions against me

[ineedhelpplease]

Original Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494655.0
This thread was created because the last thread was disrespectful, unprofessional and included irrelevant text. It was also when I first noticed and used my instinct reactions rather than calm down and think about the situation logically. Apologies to anyone who had to read that. I am keeping the thread up above for anyone to read. I did dislike his approach, but since I've calmed down entirely I will approach it with valid reasoning and arguments instead of anger with barely my point across unlike last thread. I have stated why I was pissed in the other threads if you are wondering why I was upset. (I often notice I repeat myself WAY too much)


This new thread is NOT created to harm JollyGood's reputation as a scam/spambuster or a user in any way. Everyone makes mistakes, and even I have done so too with my original thread. Regardless of his attitude and horrible reasoning he is still a good person in this community and I know that he is far better at this kind of investigation stuff than I ever will be. He is valuable to this community and he shouldn't be thought of differently because of this thread, at the end of the day he is only doing what he thinks best. This thread is created to reason and make him realize that I have nothing to do with "JackpotRacer" nor that I am an "alt".


1) JollyGood's March Reputation (JackpotRacer)
1.1) His claim
1.2) All the additions that JollyGood failed to investigate.

2) JollyGood's December Reputation (The original claim of me being an alt)
2.1) His claim
2.2) Ignored me when I tried to refute it.

3) JollyGood's Half-assed Responses and Lack of investigation
3.1) Refuses to actually try and investigate his claims and questions
3.2) Ignoring me whenever I try to prove myself (My intentions on the forums here have been clear too)
3.3) You have lost who is actually a "nuisance" as you call me
3.4) I am offering you a way to try and prove that I am a real person and not an "alt" and I hope you eventually give it a chance

1) JollyGood's March Reputation

I had to go back to refresh my memory, and I started briefly looking at the replies for little since I forgot about most of this stuff.
Let's start off with why I was seemingly supporting JackpotRacer.

1.1) My reply was not on either side
Here was my only singular post that was "defending" JackpotRacer. I made this reply on March 7th,
 "Are you not going to answer? Where or How did he use these supposed exploits to his advantage? Where is the proof. How come this question is always avoided" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485686.msg63774318#msg63774318)

Until just now, I thought I was defending him, but it seems like I wasn't even on either side. I was just asking a question to Eva due to some of her unprofessional replies.

If you look at the posts made from the other users and Eva, she only answers like one question rather than all of them. I instantly recognized this reply (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485686.msg63772872#msg63772872) as part of why I also replied saying my message above. I remember reading at the time and came up to what I posted. There were multiple people agreeing that she fails to answers questions. Hopefully you understand as to why I posted that reply.

Until now, I thought I made more replies that were relevant to the thread but clearly not. This was my only singular reply. If I was an alt of Jackpot, wouldn't you think at the very least I would reply with more posts?

On March 20th, like two weeks after I stopped caring about that thread, Jackpot reposts my comment (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485686.msg63837598#msg63837598) and Icopress calls it out. I am extremely confused about this, because this dude reposting my comment TWO WEEKS LATER shouldn't mean I'm his "alt" all of a sudden.

JollyGood, rather than attempting to investigate to confirm the post, just automatically sided with the reputable member rather than try and verify the claim, even though the point is very weak. How is this my fault in any way that he just randomly decides to copy and paste my text? I'm not trying to be rude, but rather than actually trying to verify the claim using the information below, it just feels like you've only stuck with your assumption because Icopress is reputable, along with your past accusation against me from 5 months ago.

1.2) All the additions that JollyGood failed to investigate.
Let's keep in mind the following; JollyGood is supposed to be a respected investigator on the forums. I am in no means attempting to undercut his credibility with what I'm about to say, but it is insane that I had to go out and find differences that are used to identify alts just to prove that I have no association with him. Also, I'm obviously not an expert. I won't be surprised if something I say here isn't 100% correct when I was checking Jackpot, but I still tried my best.

The Thread;

1)
Someone copying and pasting my text doesn't mean that I'm their "alt". This is just illogical considering anyone can do this. I'm not sure why Jackpot did but it is what it is.

2)
I was not even siding with Jackpot or Eva in that thread, I was just asking questions and then I never replied again.

3)
More replies would have been made by me regarding the topic of the thread. As far as I remember, unless they were deleted or in another thread I do not remember. You can check with ninjastic space to verify.

Comparing the user to me;
4)
Our typing styles and attitudes are very different. Even though we were both pissed, I tried calming down in that original thread I made and offered to resolve your doubts in a civil matter with proof provided.

5)
I've stated here that I live in the USA (my first thread, and I'm willing to screenshare my university IPs if that helps to anyone)
I've tried investigating (point 9) and Jackpot lives in Iceland

6)
This was the only time in history that I remember ever "Defending" JackpotRacer. Please, link another thread where I was "supporting" JackpotRacer

7)
Crypto addresses are different and have never linked back
My address (I have been using since 2021); bc1qunhuvgkahf42regsum6zayvnman0rfzkh9x6da
JackpotRacers address; (I do not even know which one they're all like 2017 old) https://ninjastic.space/addresses?author=JackpotRacer

Go ahead, for those who investigate crypto wallets, you can do that to see if any transfers of funds or reposts on the forums containing my wallet were connected with this user, or anyone elses here. I will also provide you my ETH and LTC wallets which I've been using since 2021 too if needed.


Apparently it was a quoting issue?
Timelord2067's post. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485686.msg64019785#msg64019785)
Timelord actually investigated and clarified the situation, and at least realizes that I'm not JackpotRacer in any way. Apparently it was a quoting issue on Jackpot's end.

9)
This dude even had a whole gambling website.
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1110445.msg11796736#msg11796736)
If you go to whois and try searching who owns that domain, it's from a whole different country. From Iceland?
(https://www.whois.com/whois/jackpotracer.com) This also ties in with point #5

10)
I hate gambling, I do not encourage it nor respect people who do it very much. I have said this here long prior not only on Bitcointalk but on Discord. While this dude is seemingly a gambler or a gambling website hoster.

11)
If we were indeed alts, there would be at least one time where I accidentally used his account to post on one of those threads.

I hope the above at least makes Jolly realize that I have nothing to do with Jackpot.

If anyone else has any other points add them in,



2) JollyGood's December Reputation
"when a newbie posts with a deep knowledge of the forum/members in the Reputation board, it is usually to hide other accounts."


2.1) His claim
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476886.msg63296494#msg63296494

Your is not the only account, there have been several others new over the past 5-6 months that have behaved suspiciously.

You know far too much about this forum considering your "ineedhelpplease" account was created in October 2023. Having said that, whenever you want you ask questions in an attempt to demonstrate you are a newbie you do and when you decide to post in-depth you do. How many accounts do you have here?

I can care less, I've stalked people for ages during late 2023 and Jan 2024 to learn more(NO not personal info, just their posts and accomplishments on the forums). I do not regret it,  I learned alot about crypto in general including the history, some of which is actually useful to me. I also have knowledge on a majority of the people who actively used this forum and because of that I can respect alot of these people and know what they did to help contribute to Bitcointalk.

I actually did the same on another community, and because of that I became highly respected and literally helped tons of people, both with big and small amounts. It got to the point where I could help people save thousands, tens of thousands of dollars for free which made me feel not useless for once. If it wasn't for me, they would have NEVER gotten their lost assets returned or unbanned months and YEARS later. (Will be proving it with 3.4 to JollyGood or anyone interested)

Let's break down my reply in that thread;
This thread blew up a lot more than I ever expected tbh. How big was he in the community? It seems like he did a lot of things already and has been here for years too.


"This thread blew up a lot more than I ever expected tbh. How big was he in the community?" - At the time I didn't realize he was a DT1 user nor did I even know what DT meant(proven by my next reply on that thread too..). This was also my first time seeing him. If I'm correct I started to try and become active on these forums during early december, possibly very late november? So I had no information on him

"It seems like he did a lot of things already and has been here for years too." Inferred straight off his join date, posts, reputation and the past actions people have said about him. Anyone can do that.

It isn't hard for any new user to correlate to that judgement. Your point is extremely weak, and contains no supporting backbone.

2.2) Ignored me when I tried to refute it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476886.msg63298414#msg63298414

I noticed his neutral reputation, and I tried replying to him hoping to resolve it, but he just didn't even bother responding? If you ctrl+f my name and his name on the next page, he made no attempt to reply, he just focused on the topic of the thread. Since it didn't matter much to anyone I thought of it as more of an achievement and didn't really care after that.

It just feels extremely unprofessional on his end and I don't know what else to say. I hope you're able to realize this dude.


3) JollyGood's Half-assed Responses and Lack of investigation
I will now be getting into his responses to my posts, and proving that they are illogical.

3.1) Refuses to actually try and investigate his claims and questions
When I first noticed all of this going on, it was over a month later. I was inactive, and if you check my post history I took several breaks from the forums.
Keep in mind, I did NOT view this whole blackjack fun drama for weeks after my post. I did NOT care about it. That is why there are posts from after the accusation date.
I became inactive again on 3-18, with a thread on 3-22 stating the problem with my class because I wanted to post it somewhere. You could've at the very least alerted me about this or let me have a chance at defending myself, even my last post on that thread was March 7th as well.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485686.msg64007651#msg64007651
JollyGood responded with the following (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485686.msg64022807#msg64022807)

How can someone just notice something that he has been complaining about for a very long time  Roll Eyes

You only made that point because you are still under the assumption that "I'm JackpotRacer", which was already proven false.

Pushing the agenda or idea that this is not proof of anything is somewhat laughable.

So, if some random member copies and pastes your alt weeks later, does that make him your alt? Please, try and defy this with your reasoning.

Furthermore, with your logic you could also point out that he's blackjack fun/Eva, because in that SAME reply, he copied and pasted a quote from Eva. It just does not make sense. You need more proof than that, and I'm sure you are aware by now. I am failing to understand why you aren't taking it seriously and are just going under assumptions based on what's at hand. Anyone can copy and pastes responses.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494659.msg64011909#msg64011909

This "ineedhelpplease" account started off as a newbie alt-account complaining about Rollbit and then morphed in to a nuisance account. It is not that rare or strange to see an attention-seeker seeking attention by creating threads by proclaiming ignorance even though have been around this forum for far longer than they let on using other accounts, I do occasionally wonder about their long term intentions.

It's just sad how you avoid talking about my situation with Rollbit, because it is clear that I have ONLY found out this website through searching "Rollbit stole my money" or whatever. I ONLY made my account here because I saw Rollbit Razer reply to scam/fraud accusations here and since it was hard to contact him via other ways, making an account here was the best option. I had a valid reason to complain, I lost thousands of dollars. You are taking that like some sort of huge negative problem. All of that money went from $4k to $5.2k to $7k to $8k to $12k last time I checked, it just keeps going up. Money is still money dude. No one deserves to have their hard work taken away through some bs. (And yes, this loss was my fault I am aware, no need to reply with that.)I've accepted the loss a long while ago
Thread; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5471380

"Nuisance account"

This will be spoken about at 3.3. This is just completely false.

"It is not that rare or strange to see an attention-seeker seeking attention by creating threads by proclaiming ignorance even though have been around this forum for far longer than they let on using other accounts"

I am extremely confused here too.
Here is my thread history for you to review; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=3585906;sa=showPosts

If I am reading correctly, you are making the assumption that I've made threads just to speak about me being a "new" member. Until I felt offended by your threads I did not give a single care in the world to make threads about "being new to bitcointalk" If you mean my hero rank thread then that's because I needed to know (further reason down below)

"I do occasionally wonder about their long term intentions."

Well dude, if you actually INVESTIGATED then you would know why I'm active here. I've already stated that my intention here was public. I started becoming active here on these forums after I saw one of the Rollbit campaigns, and messaged HHampus asking if I could participate in the campaign to earn my money back ONLY if I had the required ranking. He said that I could, but not guaranteed, regardless of my ban on the Rollbit website. I started becoming active after that. I am normally one for providing proofs, but I do not have this message to prove it since it looks like bitcointalk clears PMs after a certain amount of time, I tried checking my PMs the only 2023 PM that stayed was on December 13, 2023, 08:05:50 AM. But if he remembers it then yes, this can be proven easily.

3.2) Ignoring me whenever I try to prove myself (My intentions on the forums here have been clear too)
3.1 can also very easily tie in with 3.2, but I will just show this very quickly

I created my initial thread, which was again not very strong and contained more anger and irrelevant text unrelated to the point of the thread rather than reasoning.

Ah well, the only comments that manage to come to mind immediately with a degree of satisfaction are: part good riddance and part hopefully it is the last we have seen of another nonsensical account that was created for no real purpose other than to be a nuisance.

Whatever nefarious intentions this ineedhelpplease account was created with, thankfully they have been thwarted. This account will float around for a while and will maybe even post intermittently from time to time when least expected in order to remain a nuisance but that is to be expected. He will remain on my ignore list.

Your words and actions make a difference unlike me. You've been around for years and have proven to be a trustworthy member. I've only been around for about 8 months and I provide very little contribution to this community. What you say here will influence people and make them think stuff, even if it is a false case such as this one. It doesn't help that you have been ignoring or responding very poorly to my posts. You have provided no evidence and very poor backbone to your case.

I will present this again at 3.4 but I tried providing you a way to prove that I have a digital footprint online, that I am a real person behind the screen and not an "alt" or sockpuppet of the forum. Although my tone was pissed, I calmed myself down after that thread and even said I was willing to resolve this in a civil way. Instead, you do not care. I was also going to prove that I have nothing to do with JackpotRacer, but I have already said it here.

If you are putting me under your ignore list due to my disrespect, then it's understandable. But at the same time, accusing someone for over 5 months of being an alt, without notifying them while being inactive or providing them a way to defend themselves is sad. What am I supposed to do when all you've done was assumed and not really cared?

3.3) You have lost who is actually a "nuisance" as you call me
And here you are again, just assuming me to be a "nuisance" account.

1)
My goal, again was to rank up and participate in the campaigns to try and earn my lost money back. With that being said, No "nuisance" account is going to do that, without receiving negative rep or be involved with actions that disdain the community.

2)
If you look at my previous posts, I have actually tried contributing to the forum. No "nuisance" account is going to do that. Albeit not much contribution, I have provided ideas for people to make money as well as opportunities through marketplace. I have reported spammers and some "merit giveaway" scammer as well. I have helped harass scammers too giving them negative reputation, bumping threads both old and new.

3)
Also, "nuisance" accounts are often trolls. If you take a look upon all my posts, do you see me trolling anyone? Until I made my heated original thread, do you see me being disrespectful to anyone except scammers?

4)
Let me remind you what a "nuisance" account is. You've clearly lost the definition of what one actually looks like. Anyone who has had a bit of experience here on the forums will know what one is too.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3627273 - that dude who made an account just to post on my thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1043276 - jvanname (a "nuisance" troll)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=980573 - some scammer
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3103643 - your impersonator
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2704906 - another person who made an account just to harass you
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2560538 - another person who made an account just to harass you

From looking at your untrusted feedback, there are plenty of these people.


Have I, until my original thread, EVER disrespected you, or anyone?
I haven't ever trolled anyone here either and I haven't scammed or done anything wrong to anyone here. I have only tried to contribute, like I said.

Your definition of "nuisance" account is not accurate if you are bunching me in with that group. What is your definition?


3.4) I am offering you a way to try and prove that I am a real person and not an "alt" and I hope you eventually give it a chance
As I said, I am willing to prove that I am a real person behind the screen. I will show you my digital footprint over the past 5+ years, including DMs with Rollbit Staff members which will also help prove how I even got here to begin with. I am aware screenshots can be faked, I will be screensharing, I will be refreshing too to ensure that it's not inspected bs. I will be showing you what I do online when I'm not on bitcointalk and how what I do here is similar there, which has ended up making me learn alot more about the other communities on the internet and how I've saved them from losing 4-5 figures worth of money. Someone who sockpuppets under an alt account would not have any footprint to begin with, because besides bitcointalk, they're just merely anonymous alts of a more active user. I am also willing to answer any question you present too.

If you would like to do this, just please message me with your Discord and add me so we can speak there and so I can try to show you all that. I am active there with a long standing history.

I do apologize for my initial anger, but you have to understand that what you're doing is not right. It just becomes even worse when you seem to just ignore me. Again, these threads were NOT made to try and tarnish your reputation or to cause any harm to you, but to reason with you and make you realize all of this.

If anyone has questions, feel free to reply. But please, if you aren't convinced by all this, then provide a way that will.

Also small edit;
Almost everytime I visit here I just search up "bitcointalk rollbit" on Google Chrome guest mode. You can see my thread is the first result because I've been clicking it myself for over half a year each time I want to visit here. Maybe this can help in a big or small way i dont know.

[JollyGood]

The OP has given a new meaning to wall of text.

Another piece of drama being created by an obnoxious member that realised he will not be able to use this particular account for whatever purpose it was created for because it has come to the attention of several members for all the wrong reasons.

I could not read through the ridiculous post that has just been created by the OP. Who would have either the time or the patience?

Which words could describe the situation with the OP in an apt manner? Ramblings. Nonsensical. Unnecessary. (There are several more).

I guess it must look as though all of this drama is trying to be generated just because of a neutral tag or two but the reality is much more than that.

On the surface he created the ineedhelpplease account to remain anonymous while he initially made allegations against Rollbit (a casino I have zero affiliation with) and then the account morphed in to posting in boards and on subjects that newbies simply do not (such as excessively in Reputation).

He certainly put a lot of effort in to the wall of text.

(edited)

[ineedhelpplease]

Ramblings. Nonsensical. The OP has given a new meaning to wall of text.

All this drama trying to be generated just because of a neutral tag or two?

What the hell? Rather than try to at least be a reasonable human being, you decide to just try and garbage bin my thread?

Everything I provided here was not "ramblings" or "nonsensical". You can argue that with my original thread, but everything I posted here was straight to the point.

Edit; (all text below)
I see that you've edited your post after I replied. I will reply to it too.

The OP has given a new meaning to wall of text.

Fair.

I could not read through the ridiculous post that has just been created by the OP. Who would have either the time or the patience?
Which words could describe the situation with the OP in an apt manner? Ramblings. Nonsensical. Unnecessary. (There are several more).

On the surface he created the ineedhelpplease account to remain anonymous while he initially made allegations against Rollbit (a casino I have zero affiliation with) and then the account morphed in to posting in boards and on subjects that newbies simply do not (such as excessively in Reputation).

Although you have claimed to not read my post, I respect that you read it enough to realize that I'm not a "nuisance". Regardless, it still is not "ramblings" "nonsensical" "unnecessary" or whatever you want to call it. I am trying to offer you direct proof that I am a real person on the internet and you are still refusing to for some reason. How am I trying to be "anonymous" when I'm offering you my digital footprint? My history online just to try and prove this.
As for the "account morphed in to posting in boards and on subjects that newbies simply do not", well, "Reputation" is right under "Scam Accusations"(the subforum of which I came from) and these are the closest I'm getting to the LMAD subforums over 7 years later. I'm no Crypto expert unlike most of this forum so I rarely ever use most of the other ones. I also post alot on Off Topic.

I guess it must look as though all of this drama is trying to be generated just because of a neutral tag or two but the reality is much more than that.

There is no "Drama", I'm not trying to create any. I am just simply trying to prove you wrong in a respectful and civil way. We can still resolve this in PMs or on Discord. If the "reality is much more than that" mind you explain why I waited 6 months after your initial accusation if it was really like that? The "reality" that there is, is very simple dude. I was quite upset that I never had any chance to defend myself or even be notified whilst inactivity all of this was going on without me knowing. I have a life, I have other things to do. I have been inactive on multiple occasions as well.

"he will not be able to use this particular account for whatever purpose it was created for because it has come to the attention of several members for all the wrong reasons."

If you still think I'm that dude after my post I really do not know what to tell you, especially when I've provided everything I could give you.
Also, I no longer care about the $40-80 a week that can be earned here from being in a campaign. I have basically received a second chance of wealth through a lucky trade, and in the past few days have made quite a decent amount. I will still be willing to prove this if you gave me the chance just so you no longer believe that "he will not be able to use this particular account for whatever purpose it was created for...". I have no purpose of being on this website other than to ask for crypto related help every blue moon and that's it, basically making my stay here no longer valuable as it once was.

He certainly put a lot of effort in to the wall of text.

I respect that you're able to realize that the "wall of text" has effort.

[yahoo62278]

What the hell?

You're just poking the bear. Jollygood gave you neutral trust which most of the time doesn't do you any harm, certain managers might not accept you in a sig campaign but usually they don't care. You have 0 neg trust, you don't engage in trading, you aren't in a sig campaign. Just ignore and move on, no need to cause yourself more stress over little things.

@Jollygood you might consider removing the JPR feedback as it requires more proof, up to you.

[examplens]

OP, in the post with which you closed the previous topic that dealt with this matter, you said that you now saw the whole matter a little better. Then you appear with this wall of text, which probably no one will read. wtf?
I don't know why you thought this was some kind of courtroom, but you've probably been told that before, nobody will deal with neutral feedback on your profile. I would even rather agree with Jollygood's feedback, you know the forum too well for someone who has only been registered for a few months. But I'm not interested in going into further investigation, as long as you behave yourself.

This thread was created because the last thread was disrespectful, unprofessional and included irrelevant text. It was also when I first noticed and used my instinct reactions rather than calm down and think about the situation logically. Apologies to anyone who had to read that.

And this thread is also quite irrelevant, you will probably need to apologize again.

my advice, forget about all this, and find something more useful to spend your energy on. It will be better for your mental health.

[SamReomo]

OP you have wasted a lot of your time by writing this thread, it very long in length and I don't think anyone will read it fully. I have gone through some of it and that didn't sound convincing to me at all.

I suggest you to follow the advice of other reputed members and stop thinking about that neutral tag which you got on your profile.

As long as you're not scamming others, or making wrong trades on this forum which might be harmful then you're good to go.

I suggest you to lock this thread if you don't want to create more drama on this forum. I hope you'll lock it if you understand that creating such threads are totally pointless.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Wheres the option to delete my account

This will probably be my last thread

So, now that time has come. I quit this website since I have no use for it anymore,

Didn't you want to leave the forum? There was a farewell letter, wasn't it? Why, then, are you worried about some tags? If I ever want to leave, I won’t care.

On the other hand, I also can’t read the wall of words; there are a lot of them, just a lot.
However, no one on the forum will be able to prove their identity to anyone. Didn't they tell you this? I have a merit from you; there was a conversation about this. You can tell that you live on the moon and that you are a cat, but they still won’t believe you. Just understand.
In addition, your goal of company signature is very high, and the neutral tag “for now” does not affect you in any way. In addition to the fact that you are low in rank and do not have the required amount of merit, you still need time to grow in rank. It would be better to do this.
But you are worried about the neutral tag.

Put all the problems of newbies in one pile, and I assure you that you will soon take your problems back. Because you will understand that they are insignificant. If you understand what I'm talking about.

[JollyGood]

I think it is safe to conclude he had no intention of leaving therefore his goodbye post was a piece of drama based around attention-seeking  and with the hope it would bring him merits as well as sympathy, but unsurprisingly neither happened.

Let us not forget, he created the account with the ultimate intention of enrolling it in a signature campaign but after he became fully aware he lost hope of achieving that, he decided to use the ineedhelpplease account to make a nuisance of himself until he gets bored and focuses his attention on any other accounts he controls.

Wheres the option to delete my account

This will probably be my last thread

So, now that time has come. I quit this website since I have no use for it anymore,

Didn't you want to leave the forum? There was a farewell letter, wasn't it? Why, then, are you worried about some tags? If I ever want to leave, I won’t care.

[ineedhelpplease]

I was going to respond to everyone here but due to this post and me having stuff irl happening to me but that is not the point (as in, I have been trying to get a life and focus more on the real world more than online) I had it about halfway done and it is saved on Grammarly, will PM it to anyone who wanted to see the long reply.

Now, back to the new reply JollyGood created

I think it is safe to conclude he had no intention of leaving therefore his goodbye post was a piece of drama based around attention-seeking  and with the hope it would bring him merits as well as sympathy, but unsurprisingly neither happened.

Let us not forget, he created the account with the ultimate intention of enrolling it in a signature campaign but after he became fully aware he lost hope of achieving that, he decided to use the ineedhelpplease account to make a nuisance of himself until he gets bored and focuses his attention on any other accounts he controls.

So now let's break this reply down. I will not be responding to your comments calling me a "nuisance" any longer after this reply as I have already proven otherwise with section 3.3 of this thread. You became aware of your misuse of the term after I highlighted my reasoning of it, and you replaced your term with "obnoxious" as proven with your original edited reply.

I think it is safe to conclude he had no intention of leaving therefore his goodbye post was a piece of drama based around attention-seeking  and with the hope it would bring him merits as well as sympathy, but unsurprisingly neither happened.

I was inactive for a month prior to my "quitting", and I was inactive upon several occasions I did NOT write a "quitting thread" I just needed my question answered, and since I thought it would be my last time there I didn't care what I posted along with my question. If you need proof to my story regarding the "second chance" I can and will gladly show you clear proof if you let me hear out my side. I will prove it via screenshare+refreshing of trades and chatlogs, and crypto transactions. Rather than trying to hear me out, you are still under your own assumptions, which is wrong. I am willing to prove the "second chance" / lucky deal I have received to anyone here.

I think it is safe to conclude he had no intention of leaving

My inactivity as well as my main reason of being on this forum being no longer an issue is the proof that supports my claim of why I wanted to quit. I do not have an issue with money, therefore I do not need to rely on a $40-80 a week campaign. If I had no "intent of leaving" wouldn't I have been active this whole time? Me personally this was not "sudden" it was expected of me to leave especially if my main reason of being here is no longer necessary for me. Even if I was enrolled in a campaign today I would definitely be kicked based off inactivity. Just look at my inactivity gap upon my forum posts It's happened like 2 or 3 times now.

therefore his goodbye post was a piece of drama based around attention-seeking

You seem to talk about "Drama" often on this thread, let's discuss it, starting with the "goodbye quitting" thread.

For my "goodbye" post, as I said, I genuinely assumed it to be my last post, I just wanted my question answered along with my few ramblings in that thread. The point of that thread was to ask for a proper wallet to store crypto under. I have installed both BitcoinCore on May 6th, 2024 and Electrum to my PC on May 1st, 2024 which can be proven with me screensharing my "Properties" tab.

I never saw your reputation until after the thread was created. You should have notified me about your new accusation that way I had the chance to defend myself, especially knowing my Last Online at the time. If this was the other way around where I saw your new reputation first, and then said I was "quitting" after this "drama" was fully resolved then no one would have issues and it wouldn't be awkward as it is.

Now let's discuss the "Drama" relating to this thread, and my original thread as well as proving the point that making an argument does not have to involve drama.

Although I view my original thread as "drama" I do not view this new thread as "drama". Unlike last time, I am trying to be civil, focusing on the idea of the argument you support, explaining how it is weak in a constructive matter and encouraging you to think better regarding your supporting points. I am trying to not focus on your personality as well as trying to keep my feelings out of it. I wanted to create a respectful closure for the both of us, where we can either constructively agree to disagree or realize. I can offer this privately too via PMs or Discord. I am just trying to offer a peaceful discussion where we can both state our points and get each side to realize what we believe in, I am not trying to be disrespectful to you unlike last time, where I was using my instinct reactions and feelings to reply rather than calming down and thinking about the situation logically. I always argue, and I use these arguments as testaments as to how I have been talking to people online. As you can see with my original thread, I have a clear problem with controlling my feelings and initial reactions. The same can be said with my first thread on Bitcointalk which is about Rollbit, which was disorganized and clearly based from desperation and sadness feelings until I calmed down. And even with these feelings, I had no intent of attempting to destroy Rollbit's credibility or reputation, but rather to reason with them over their actions. That thread not considered drama in the slightest, right?

Not all Arguments do not have to be classified as "Drama" which is my response to you for this part. It just depends on how you approach it as well as your intentions.

Now let's talk about the points you've made from this new thread.

You initially tried to strawman my current thread using contradicting statements diluting my thread from the point and main argument, calling my thread "Ramblings. Nonsensical" when you admitted you didn't even read it yourself. Once you glanced at it, you tried to be a little more serious with me with editing your post with your reasoning against Section #2, as well as at least realizing that I'm not a "nuisance" account, replacing it with "obnoxious" and realizing I put effort and learned from my previous threads mistakes. It's not ramblings or nonsensical when you clearly learned value from the little bits you glanced over. You couldn't address the main point of the thread very well with all of your points addressed. If you don't want to read it all that is fine. I believe you are trying strawman again with this reply, focusing on how I was planning to leave rather than addressing my constructive criticism against your most recent reputation.

I am not trying to be rude or undercut your credibility, but I hope people realize that you aren't giving me a chance to show you my side here. So far you have just completely ignored me and tried to strawman instead of focusing on the main point, I do not get it, considering you're a highly respected investigator here. Shouldn't you be trying to verify my points as well as solidify your points instead of all this "distracting"(i dont know what to call it)? In the past, you have retracted your reputations in the past after hearing people out, which is why I thought you were a decent user, because I thought you could be good at criticism and admitting when you are wrong what is making you not give me a fair chance?

I am unsure of what your intent with trying to use strawman to dilute attention from the main point that I have no association with jackpot, but please, respectfully stick to the main point of this thread so we can continue discussing. The important thing to know is that I have nothing to do with "jackpotracer".

[BabyBandit]

People like that is nothing else then scared nerd's that living their life behind a monitor, probably because they was bullied as a kid (and that's horrible, nobody should get bullied)
But what they do now is that they getting revenge on innocent people on the internet because it make them feel strong and tough, BUT they missing the most important part. This just make them look weak and even more nerdy! And if they had any kind of self-respect this is not the way how to should behave to other humans, confront your problem and do it IRL not on a forum.
But nobody is perfect and we all trying our best myself is far far away from perfect but I trying to be a better myself then yesterday and I don't get it why not just work together and help each other out instead of work against each other? And just for information: No one of this "tough guys" here would never dare to speak up face to face and everyone know it. So best to just /ignore it. Smiley In the end they will stop.

[JackpotRacer]

What the hell?

You're just poking the bear. Jollygood gave you neutral trust which most of the time doesn't do you any harm, certain managers might not accept you in a sig campaign but usually they don't care. You have 0 neg trust, you don't engage in trading, you aren't in a sig campaign. Just ignore and move on, no need to cause yourself more stress over little things.

@Jollygood you might consider removing the JPR feedback as it requires more proof, up to you.

Actually you @yahoo62278 could tell that I am so many years here and had my own casino and I am for sure not an alt of poor @ineedhelpplease.

in case yahoo62278 does not do it as he will always attack me under the belt line. I assure anyone in doubt that I am not an alt of @ineedhelpplease.

As for JollynotGood, he started out very good years ago and then lost it. He is a disgrace to this forum.

[yahoo62278]

What the hell?

You're just poking the bear. Jollygood gave you neutral trust which most of the time doesn't do you any harm, certain managers might not accept you in a sig campaign but usually they don't care. You have 0 neg trust, you don't engage in trading, you aren't in a sig campaign. Just ignore and move on, no need to cause yourself more stress over little things.

@Jollygood you might consider removing the JPR feedback as it requires more proof, up to you.

Actually you @yahoo62278 could tell that I am so many years here and had my own casino and I am for sure not an alt of poor @ineedhelpplease.

in case yahoo62278 does not do it as he will always attack me under the belt line. I assure anyone in doubt that I am not an alt of @ineedhelpplease.

As for JollynotGood, he started out very good years ago and then lost it. He is a disgrace to this forum.

I cannot say with 100% certainty that you 2 are not the same person. I do think that not enough proof has been presented and IMO you 2 are not the same person, but that being said Jollygood is entitled to his opinion and it is up to him whether or not to remove the neutral. If he does, or doesn't it is just a neutral and doesn't really hurt either of you.

[JackpotRacer]

What the hell?

You're just poking the bear. Jollygood gave you neutral trust which most of the time doesn't do you any harm, certain managers might not accept you in a sig campaign but usually they don't care. You have 0 neg trust, you don't engage in trading, you aren't in a sig campaign. Just ignore and move on, no need to cause yourself more stress over little things.

@Jollygood you might consider removing the JPR feedback as it requires more proof, up to you.

Actually you @yahoo62278 could tell that I am so many years here and had my own casino and I am for sure not an alt of poor @ineedhelpplease.

in case yahoo62278 does not do it as he will always attack me under the belt line. I assure anyone in doubt that I am not an alt of @ineedhelpplease.

As for JollynotGood, he started out very good years ago and then lost it. He is a disgrace to this forum.

I cannot say with 100% certainty that you 2 are not the same person. I do think that not enough proof has been presented and IMO you 2 are not the same person, but that being said Jollygood is entitled to his opinion and it is up to him whether or not to remove the neutral. If he does, or doesn't it is just a neutral and doesn't really hurt either of you.

Fair enough

I don't care about JollynotGood, I only care about @ineedhelpplease being falsely accused of being an alt of mine.

This is really a joke and very stupid of whoever is making this accusation.