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May 27, 2024, 01:58:48 PM
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Some people is like that, actually, specially in a context where they are waiting for the bus to arrive, waiting on a line on the bank or any situations where boredom could strike to them. Those are social people who likes to talk about anything to complete strangers outside of their home.
It has probably happened to you, some guy approaches you and he slowly starts to open up to you and talk about his life. There is nothing wrong about it, in my opinion, I have even noticed that the elderly are more prone to do so than the young people.

Either way, one is not supposed to allow the believes of others to affect our own, if we believe that other person is giving legitimate advice is up to us to analyze it and see if makes sense to improve our situation, otherwise, just discard it and move on.
Yeah this happens to me but never that i engage talking because there is one important thing
my father thought me to never entertain strangers specially those who will just approach you in public
without important matters to tackle ?
I will keep silent or will move away to show them im not interested.

As @Hispo said above which is actually not a problem to talk to strangers in public places accidentally as long as we can really think using common sense and rational thinking, anyway I think there are positive points in the situation which can improve our social relations with other people we never knew before which maybe we can get a good experience, knowledge or insight by talking to them as long as we can really think rationally.

Everyone has their own life choices and habits and as you said that maybe since childhood you have been forbidden by your father to talk to people you don't know, there is nothing wrong with that and maybe I think your family prioritizes prevention to avoid some unwanted things such as especially so that you are not influenced by anything that others say that can change our beliefs, but if we have prepared various things in ourselves then I think there is nothing wrong with mingling with others, but it must also be accompanied by restrictions.

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May 27, 2024, 02:17:03 PM
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My opinion is that believing in demons is bullshit, whether it is applied to gambling or in other fields. Those who have superstitions have an archaic mentality, not a modern scientific-rational one. Forget demons and study the mathematics that governs gambling, you will be much better off.
I respect people who have superstitious beliefs because I know they also have their own reasons for that. However, when it comes to gambling, instead of blaming all those losses to the demons behind the casinos, why not blame yourself because you never act as a responsible gambler but instead, you turn into an addicted one. It’s not the casino’s choice to see you losing consistently, but it’s actually your own choice and action that made you suffer from that.

Furthermore, gambling is a business, so the edge is always on the house, not on the various players, otherwise we won’t see gambling casinos stay longer in the market because they resort into bankruptcy after a month or two of operation.
Truly, I have heard or read of too many strange beliefs people have on gambling but this is the funniest I've ever set my eyes on. I think such occurrences is the reason why gamblers should play out of the sight of people around them. Recently, we all know how little, people now mind their businesses. Everyone gets to talk to gamblers as though they're the worst people in the world. What could actually have made that person to think that demons are in control of our gambling results. I think he does not know anything about gambling and he just stands by what his brains tells him about gambling.

If this person have ever been in the casino or read any kind of book about gambling he would have known that the house has an edge that controls the funds people receive while gambling. No need listening to his thoughts or even bother on it, such people are just trying to distract the player from focusing on his games. However, if I were to be there I'd clear his doubts and teach him about the housing edge. And how gambling losses actually works. Letting such wrong ideas slide by is quite dangerous. We don't know how many more gamblers he'd say similar things to. Correcting him is the best thing to do in this case.

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May 27, 2024, 02:26:36 PM
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My opinion is that believing in demons is bullshit, whether it is applied to gambling or in other fields. Those who have superstitions have an archaic mentality, not a modern scientific-rational one. Forget demons and study the mathematics that governs gambling, you will be much better off.
I respect people who have superstitious beliefs because I know they also have their own reasons for that. However, when it comes to gambling, instead of blaming all those losses to the demons behind the casinos, why not blame yourself because you never act as a responsible gambler but instead, you turn into an addicted one. It’s not the casino’s choice to see you losing consistently, but it’s actually your own choice and action that made you suffer from that.

Furthermore, gambling is a business, so the edge is always on the house, not on the various players, otherwise we won’t see gambling casinos stay longer in the market because they resort into bankruptcy after a month or two of operation.
Indeed, there is nothing wrong with someone who believes in superstition in the bets they place, as you say is very true, of course they have their own reasons for believing that and if they blame the devil for the losses they get, of course that is very ridiculous, why do they believe in it? about this, but after that they ended up blaming and it would be better for them to blame and it would be better for them to gamble responsibly and not blame other people when they lose.
That's right, most gambling places will be able to survive for a long time if they have players who regularly place bets at their place because every gambler will of course experience a lot of losses.

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May 28, 2024, 11:57:32 PM
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Some people is like that, actually, specially in a context where they are waiting for the bus to arrive, waiting on a line on the bank or any situations where boredom could strike to them. Those are social people who likes to talk about anything to complete strangers outside of their home.
It has probably happened to you, some guy approaches you and he slowly starts to open up to you and talk about his life. There is nothing wrong about it, in my opinion, I have even noticed that the elderly are more prone to do so than the young people.

Either way, one is not supposed to allow the believes of others to affect our own, if we believe that other person is giving legitimate advice is up to us to analyze it and see if makes sense to improve our situation, otherwise, just discard it and move on.
Yeah this happens to me but never that i engage talking because there is one important thing
my father thought me to never entertain strangers specially those who will just approach you in public
without important matters to tackle ?
I will keep silent or will move away to show them im not interested.

As @Hispo said above which is actually not a problem to talk to strangers in public places accidentally as long as we can really think using common sense and rational thinking, anyway I think there are positive points in the situation which can improve our social relations with other people we never knew before which maybe we can get a good experience, knowledge or insight by talking to them as long as we can really think rationally.

Everyone has their own life choices and habits and as you said that maybe since childhood you have been forbidden by your father to talk to people you don't know, there is nothing wrong with that and maybe I think your family prioritizes prevention to avoid some unwanted things such as especially so that you are not influenced by anything that others say that can change our beliefs, but if we have prepared various things in ourselves then I think there is nothing wrong with mingling with others, but it must also be accompanied by restrictions.

Well, I don't know about you, but in my opinion, it goes a little bit too far not to talk to strangers whatsoever and take it to heart while one is being taken care by ones of father.
Regardless one is taking about gambling or not, most of people we have met in our life had been strangers to us at some point, hadnt they?
What matters is to correctly and accurately identity the red flags scammers will always leave around unwillingly so anyone aware of them won't fall for their tricks to take our money.
It would be a very miserable and strange life if I have to live in fear and in a constant state of skepticism about all people around me.

True. Thanks to cryptocurrency and the Blockchains we do not need to further rely one hundred percent on trust, sadly that does not apply to human being.... yet  Tongue

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May 29, 2024, 05:44:03 AM
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My opinion is that believing in demons is bullshit, whether it is applied to gambling or in other fields. Those who have superstitions have an archaic mentality, not a modern scientific-rational one. Forget demons and study the mathematics that governs gambling, you will be much better off.
I respect people who have superstitious beliefs because I know they also have their own reasons for that. However, when it comes to gambling, instead of blaming all those losses to the demons behind the casinos, why not blame yourself because you never act as a responsible gambler but instead, you turn into an addicted one. It’s not the casino’s choice to see you losing consistently, but it’s actually your own choice and action that made you suffer from that.

Furthermore, gambling is a business, so the edge is always on the house, not on the various players, otherwise we won’t see gambling casinos stay longer in the market because they resort into bankruptcy after a month or two of operation.
Hahaha you are right and indeed everyone will have their own beliefs in things like superstition, but in context like this I can say that belief in things like superstition can never be proven logically.
Blaming the casino for superstition for every loss gambler experiences is also very inappropriate attitude to take because everything happens as result of the gamblers own decisions.
Gambling carries the risk of losing and gambling has several bad impacts on gamblers, but they always make the wrong decision by continuing to do whatever they want when gambling, obviously whatever the result is, it is the gambler fault.
Linking superstitious problems to gambling will only make things worse and damage self confidence.

Well, that what must gamblers should think, logically gambling is business and they build casinos or gambling sites to make profit, so it natural that they are on top and gamblers as customers will only lose.

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May 29, 2024, 06:01:50 AM
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
Whether you want to believe it or not is a person's right to believe it or not, but here I want to deepen your statement so that it can be understood by everyone, often everyone who does hot money business such as gambling will usually always use mystical things to help attract someone.  to be tempting in this case, but not everyone will admit it, but this has been confirmed by several people who have previously experienced it, usually there is a collaborative agreement between the owner and the shaman to include the devil to increase a person's attraction to gambling in whatever form it takes,  so that you continue to have a high level of curiosity about gambling, so what you are saying now or the person you mentioned is true, but it all comes down to whether you want to believe it or not, everyone has different beliefs.

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May 29, 2024, 06:05:39 AM
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You should've told that man that you were the devil or something like that, I can guarantee you that he'll have that moment ingrained in his mind, I don't like people that tries to meddle with what I'm doing just to say something really stupid that doesn't really have anything that would contribute to what I do, I mean come on man, I don't care about your belief and I'm not really asking you to save me. Minding your own business goes a really long way if I'm being honest, makes you live longer. Superstitions are a goofy thing in the modern day, grow up.

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May 29, 2024, 06:26:59 AM
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What's your opinion about this please?

Take him easy, that is just his mantra.

Gambling spirit  is in  the core  of the human brain and I think should  it were lost in the past then evolution would have slowed down significantly. I think this spirit will help humanity to withstand AI at the time when needed. Wink



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I think he only lost his mind due to too much gambling. This is also happening on other addicts, mostly the drug ones. A superstitious belief is different from it. That's right @OP, you should not believe such claims but just continue on what you are doing if this makes you happy. What important is us and not the others.

The only way for us to stop gambling is if it's already banned in our country or we have a religion that prohibits it. Just to clear things out, I do not mean that addicted gamblers like him will also continue. I know that is their life and that is their money that they use when playing, but still it was wrong in any angle you look at it. Sometimes I also do follow some simple superstitious for my important works like green dress and prayer before beginning etc. This simply gives me some confident then what would be wrong in following it?

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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
This is a common human superstition, not necessarily associated with gamblers. My point is that gamblers are no more superstitious than other people.

Of course, your travel companion is absolutely right in describing the casino’s business model, but the statements of an adult (pointing his finger at a smartphone) about demons at least look funny, and at most a reason to think about its adequacy. Personally, I am a little surprised and feel slightly embarrassed when, in the age of high technology, I come across statements of human superstitions that touch on various mythologies (such as Christian, as in this case). It would seem that humanity has overcome the dark ages, but as you can see from your story, some characters still remain in those times. Smiley

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Some people is like that, actually, specially in a context where they are waiting for the bus to arrive, waiting on a line on the bank or any situations where boredom could strike to them. Those are social people who likes to talk about anything to complete strangers outside of their home.
It has probably happened to you, some guy approaches you and he slowly starts to open up to you and talk about his life. There is nothing wrong about it, in my opinion, I have even noticed that the elderly are more prone to do so than the young people.

Either way, one is not supposed to allow the believes of others to affect our own, if we believe that other person is giving legitimate advice is up to us to analyze it and see if makes sense to improve our situation, otherwise, just discard it and move on.
Yeah this happens to me but never that i engage talking because there is one important thing
my father thought me to never entertain strangers specially those who will just approach you in public
without important matters to tackle ?
I will keep silent or will move away to show them im not interested.

As @Hispo said above which is actually not a problem to talk to strangers in public places accidentally as long as we can really think using common sense and rational thinking, anyway I think there are positive points in the situation which can improve our social relations with other people we never knew before which maybe we can get a good experience, knowledge or insight by talking to them as long as we can really think rationally.

Everyone has their own life choices and habits and as you said that maybe since childhood you have been forbidden by your father to talk to people you don't know, there is nothing wrong with that and maybe I think your family prioritizes prevention to avoid some unwanted things such as especially so that you are not influenced by anything that others say that can change our beliefs, but if we have prepared various things in ourselves then I think there is nothing wrong with mingling with others, but it must also be accompanied by restrictions.
One of the main reasons on why people do really go into those places on which they could really be having that kind of social interaction with other people. I doesnt have any sense in regarding
about connecting with that kind of situation on which you wont really be tending to have those interactions just because it would really be that affecting your overall luckiness?

Superstitious beliefs and other things which is really that always been that connected out with things on which it isnt really just that limited to gambling but also in other aspects as well.
It turns out that this has become that being a traditional stuff on which you would really be trying out to attach and make yourself believe that there are really those things
that could affect someones luck. It isnt really that bad on making  yourself having those kind of beliefs and trying it to follow but of course it would really be just that
better that you dont make yourself that applying those things but as long you arent harming or putting up someone into trouble then you are free on what you would really be gonna doing.

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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

To answer your question, I will say that this is a matter of faith. This means that it is impossible to determine whether it is true or not. It depends on whether a person believes in it or not. This cannot be proven or disproved. You can talk a lot about who is behind this - demons, vampires or Santa Claus. This cannot be proven; it all depends on your attitude towards it. I believe that God revealed to us what we need to know, He hid the rest from us.
I am deeply convinced that behind many bad things it is not demons, but human stupidity.

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May 29, 2024, 09:05:15 PM
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

To answer your question, I will say that this is a matter of faith. This means that it is impossible to determine whether it is true or not. It depends on whether a person believes in it or not. This cannot be proven or disproved. You can talk a lot about who is behind this - demons, vampires or Santa Claus. This cannot be proven; it all depends on your attitude towards it. I believe that God revealed to us what we need to know, He hid the rest from us.
I am deeply convinced that behind many bad things it is not demons, but human stupidity.

Some people just have the believe from mythic narratives which is really not the truth but they will keep passing the idea from one generation to another and in every generation, you will definitely find people who are telling you the mythic narratives about gambling that has been instilled in them. It will be difficult for you to convince such people that gambling is not satanic as they thought. If something is satanic, that means it is controlled by the devil or the devil's agent and if casino was controlled by devil's agent that means people will not be gambling at all.

@shivansps, I agree with you on your last statement.

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May 30, 2024, 07:11:42 AM
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This is a common human superstition, not necessarily associated with gamblers. My point is that gamblers are no more superstitious than other people.

I believe it's true. There are so many superstitious people in the world, and the fact many of them are gamblers doesn't show that gamblers, or most of them, are superstitious. Rather, it is because many people are gamblers. Some of them drink Coke, others are vegetarians, and others are superstitious. It's like encountering many vegetarian gamblers and coming to the conclusion that all gamblers are like that.

~ Personally, I am a little surprised and feel slightly embarrassed when, in the age of high technology, I come across statements of human superstitions that touch on various mythologies (such as Christian, as in this case). It would seem that humanity has overcome the dark ages, but as you can see from your story, some characters still remain in those times. Smiley

Yeah, me too. But that's how it is: a lot of people have outdated views.

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To answer your question, I will say that this is a matter of faith. This means that it is impossible to determine whether it is true or not. It depends on whether a person believes in it or not. This cannot be proven or disproved. You can talk a lot about who is behind this - demons, vampires or Santa Claus. This cannot be proven; it all depends on your attitude towards it. I believe that God revealed to us what we need to know, He hid the rest from us.
I am deeply convinced that behind many bad things it is not demons, but human stupidity.
That's one good point of view of this kind of belief.
It's true. Gambling can cause chaos not because of what is said by God or the Bible but it's because of human stupidity. Anything that is abused can be harmful to us. Gambling was supposed to be an added spice for entertainment, a hobby, but there are those who would use it as their daily job or worse, getting addicted to it and never stopping for a day to take a rest.
It's not demonic or controlled by Satan, it's just people abusing things like how they abuse drugs, alcohol, and other substances that are harmful due to over-usage. Drugs are supposed to cure illnesses and yet they keep on taking them because they feel good. The same with other types of plants or chemicals that are abused.
No one is forcing us to gamble, it's our own decision. So should it be blamed on something else?

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May 30, 2024, 08:34:13 AM
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This is a common human superstition, not necessarily associated with gamblers. My point is that gamblers are no more superstitious than other people.

I believe it's true. There are so many superstitious people in the world, and the fact many of them are gamblers doesn't show that gamblers, or most of them, are superstitious. Rather, it is because many people are gamblers. Some of them drink Coke, others are vegetarians, and others are superstitious. It's like encountering many vegetarian gamblers and coming to the conclusion that all gamblers are like that.

Maybe some people believe about this since they are live on environment that believe on super natural things that's why they always think about that there's something they can do to change the result of the game that's why some of them always came up with idea that some rituals or their beliefs will work to counter the possible result then turn the results in favor with them. I maybe find it sounds crazy but still I respect their believe but what I really think that there's no other thing that can change the result of each game whatever extracurricular things they do since the result will always come up random. But if they play on skilled based maybe they can change something especially if they try to familiarize the game and create a good strategy to get increase a little bit their chance to win.

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To answer your question, I will say that this is a matter of faith. This means that it is impossible to determine whether it is true or not. It depends on whether a person believes in it or not. This cannot be proven or disproved. You can talk a lot about who is behind this - demons, vampires or Santa Claus. This cannot be proven; it all depends on your attitude towards it. I believe that God revealed to us what we need to know, He hid the rest from us.
I am deeply convinced that behind many bad things it is not demons, but human stupidity.

I think it's demons because Christianity said God banished many angels that was taking the side of Lucifer when he chased them away from heaven if we are believing the stories in the bible. Superstitious are real in gambling and sports, some players have their own superstitious that they believe in and it works for them. Christiano Ronaldo said he does not like touching trophy before playing in the competition and it works for him because he has won many trophies while others in spite of if they touch or kissed the trophy they still can win it. Messi in the 2022 world cup touched and kissed the world cup trophy before playing in the competition and he still won it but Ronaldo that did not do that still did not win it therefore it can work for some people while it would not work for others. Gambling is mostly about luck therefore superstition can be used when gambling and you win.

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To answer your question, I will say that this is a matter of faith. This means that it is impossible to determine whether it is true or not. It depends on whether a person believes in it or not. This cannot be proven or disproved. You can talk a lot about who is behind this - demons, vampires or Santa Claus. This cannot be proven; it all depends on your attitude towards it. I believe that God revealed to us what we need to know, He hid the rest from us.
I am deeply convinced that behind many bad things it is not demons, but human stupidity.

I think it's demons because Christianity said God banished many angels that was taking the side of Lucifer when he chased them away from heaven if we are believing the stories in the bible. Superstitious are real in gambling and sports, some players have their own superstitious that they believe in and it works for them. Christiano Ronaldo said he does not like touching trophy before playing in the competition and it works for him because he has won many trophies while others in spite of if they touch or kissed the trophy they still can win it. Messi in the 2022 world cup touched and kissed the world cup trophy before playing in the competition and he still won it but Ronaldo that did not do that still did not win it therefore it can work for some people while it would not work for others. Gambling is mostly about luck therefore superstition can be used when gambling and you win.

You should back your point with proof or link, about Messi and Ronaldo touching Cup or not. And i disagree Messi kissing the world cup before match, that's a lie. It cannot happen, only few are selected to touch the world cup after a win not before it.

Superstitious believe are relevant to those who believe in such, for me it's nonsense. Beliefs are what one uphold to be true within his own judgement, God himself gave us freedom and choice that's why we can do anything at all.
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I'm not into a religious matter because we have different believes on it but most of the time people linkages the gambling as related into evil because of its effect again at the end of the day it's people's choice what they will do with their life if they want to get addicted or being a casual player of gambling so no related into religious matter.
Gambling can form to a person an negativity power so people thinks gambling are the root of it but no it's the person who made the decision.

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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
His experience may have been very real to him, and although it may sound absurd to you, it is important to realize that each person has a different way of understanding and dealing with their bad experiences. Even though the guy has strong views and they may sound strange to you, he may just be trying to help in a way he thinks is right. In the meantime, it is important for you to remain rational and not be too swayed by extreme views, but still respect any concerns he may raise regarding the risks of gambling.

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