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May 14, 2024, 09:25:08 PM
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
Dont let it to get into your head because if you do keep on minding on the words that he had said then it might be a reason that you cant really be able to enjoy up your gambling activity or dealing since you would really be continuing on minding on the things that he had said on which we know that this is something that superstitious but we do know that he has some point about gambling addiction and
possible huge spending of money with gambling which it could really be that leading into that huge regret in the end of the line. This is why it would really be that important that you should be wary on whats the actual reason on why you do gamble?

Gamble for fun and not for more then everything would really be just that fine. Why? moderation and control is something that will really be that mainly needed when dealing up
with gambling because having nothing of this will really lead into disaster.

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May 14, 2024, 10:28:18 PM
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What's your opinion about this please?
let me guess, the guy is also religious? it is great that he found a way to stop his gambling through his beliefs but the guy is full of BS, I suggest ignoring it. religious people have claimed a lot of things to be satanic, I still remember my religious grandma saying that coloring my hair is satanic and I am being influenced by demons through the music I was listening to.
As said, the guy on the bus is very much into gambling and has lost big. At some point, he had turned to be more religious, and the same has made him come out of the gambling practice. From that point on, his life might've changed on the positive side, and the same had driven him towards stating gambling as satanic. We can't be sure that there is no manipulation, but the involvement of demons is just an imagination. There are people who are superstitious, and they find different choices to win. This is different, and he had to find a way to quit gambling.

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May 14, 2024, 11:38:20 PM
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
That is a sign of hallucination and superstitious believe. Those words he said where not actually true but he is using what happened to him As an example to tanish the image or reputation of gambling. There are no demon anywhere In gambling but it was just a mear imagination due to frequent lost. Greed makes people to easily fall into gambling trap or slowly becoming an addict. The act of chasing loses is the main reason why people lost alot. Another is that naturally gambling is programmed in a way that it is nearly impossible to win due to lack of possibilities, the chance of winning in gambling is %10 inside every %100 and inside the %10, %5 may be at advantage to win on a regular basis that is why it looks like demon controls it but not so.

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May 14, 2024, 11:46:45 PM
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What's your opinion about this please?
let me guess, the guy is also religious? it is great that he found a way to stop his gambling through his beliefs but the guy is full of BS, I suggest ignoring it. religious people have claimed a lot of things to be satanic
For sure if he does, he prayed for his bets to win which is kind of odd for someone who's religious. But hey, we do get this a lot nowadays, right?  Cheesy

I still remember my religious grandma saying that coloring my hair is satanic and I am being influenced by demons through the music I was listening to.
This made my day and you made me laugh.

There's something odd to these extremely religious but look at them, you'd see something wrong with them that they don't notice. I am happy to see religious people and doing their faith but they should be limited to do that for themselves and not to meddle with others.

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May 14, 2024, 11:59:31 PM
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I'll go with logic and maths when deciding probable wins or losses but people have a ton of beliefs about what works for them.   Some of it is real for that person in getting them in the right mood or mindset, I dont argue with people what makes them right on the day and happy within their gamble to operate best on the day.   Some of it is the attitude towards gambling, there is no certainty and if you have the good belief that you cannot always win that is probably for the best in controlling your ego and hubris; whatever works for you!

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May 15, 2024, 02:15:54 AM
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I'll go with logic and maths when deciding probable wins or losses but people have a ton of beliefs about what works for them.   Some of it is real for that person in getting them in the right mood or mindset, I dont argue with people what makes them right on the day and happy within their gamble to operate best on the day.   Some of it is the attitude towards gambling, there is no certainty and if you have the good belief that you cannot always win that is probably for the best in controlling your ego and hubris; whatever works for you!

well you have a point on that, mate. We have our different beliefs when it comes to gambling winning so we should just focus on our own strategies and logic when it comes to winning the game in gambling, as long as you can manage yourself then go, do what you want to do and let others do what they want too. know that whatever works on us will probably not works to other people.



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May 15, 2024, 04:00:19 AM
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Indeed, gambling that is done excessively is dangerous, because it is guaranteed that you will become addicted and of course when you become addicted, many problems will occur, such as losing large amounts of money, relationships between each other that can become strained or even worse. . Gambling itself is man-made whose aim is to generate profits. with those who make this, of course the main thing is to make a profit from the many people who gamble. Also, the host will not care about what happens to those who are addicted to gambling, whether they become destitute because they go bankrupt or whatever, because it is also because of their own wrong actions in gambling too much. It's true what you said, if gambling itself is done with common sense, in other words, you can understand it well and don't thirst for victory, then it won't be a problem.

It is clear that the devil is within oneself. with those who become addicted to gambling, it may be because they follow their instincts incorrectly, where it is handlebars that encourage them to continue gambling because of the lure of winning. It's true, it doesn't matter how strong the influence of external factors is, because complete control lies with those of us who do the gambling.

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May 15, 2024, 04:44:24 AM
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Everything will start with defeat, he said all that because he has definitely experienced defeats that really made him feel big loss, and basically people who gamble and experience big losses will always blame anything for their failure.
Saying gambling is the devil is not correct because this is indeed business and in gambling if we use logic and an objective mindset then we will understand that the gambling algorithm is random and gives greater percentage of losses to gamblers.
It has nothing to do with the devil or anything that seems religious in gambling, but if you say about manipulation then it is true and indeed some gambling places use lot of these dirty tricks to make more gamblers lose.

But I think this kind of opinion is quite normal because I have found several times that some people have similar beliefs where they believe that casino owners or betting providers have been helped by the devil.
But I personally wouldn't think so because I understand that gambling is place that was created to provide benefits to its owners and we as gamblers are only the ones who will provide these benefits.

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Although it may be true that there are some people who have a paradigm or view that there is a connection between gambling and the devil or other beliefs that are not visible to the naked eye. However, in my opinion, this is just an assumption, not a fact, because until now there is no strong enough evidence to support this opinion.

and it is important to consider the real fact that gambling is basically an activity that is based on one's own decisions, factors of luck, understanding, knowledge and skills. The reason why in gambling the house always wins is because of the mathematical rules that underlie it, not because of the intervention of Satan.

In overcoming this problem, I think the person you met on the bus had experienced quite a bitter experience in gambling, so he talked to others about the gambling he had experienced and thought that the bitter experience he had experienced was due to the intervention of Satan. But this all comes back to each individual, because everyone has the freedom to have their own views about gambling.

Most people that have loss to gambling back then can be unbelievable having such archaic mindset,have heard that a lot times usually when I was much younger we were told that there's a spirit that controls all of this and thus tend to favour the casinos with more earnings leaving the gambler addicted and a looser.
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He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino <...>

I don't know where you're from but personally I don't know anyone who believes in demons, and if in a conversation someone were to say that to me I would suddenly remember that I have to leave at that moment because I have a very important thing to do that can't be delayed. Anyone who believes in superstitions and demons in gambling is going to do badly, very badly. Better not to gamble and to pray.

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He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino <...>
Anyone who believes in superstitions and demons in gambling is going to do badly, very badly. Better not to gamble and to pray.

Anyone who believes in this SHOULD not gamble in the first place and anyone who is religious should not gamble as well. Because if they do, they don't have integrity and most likely going to break their own rules in terms of allocating funds and time with gambling.
But for people who don't believe any of these are free to do everything they can. What is important is we respect what others believes. Even with superstitious gestures in gambling, I respect that all though it looks funny.

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Most people that have loss to gambling back then can be unbelievable having such archaic mindset,have heard that a lot times usually when I was much younger we were told that there's a spirit that controls all of this and thus tend to favour the casinos with more earnings leaving the gambler addicted and a looser.
And sometimes when I was much younger I use to believe such and stay far away from it but as I grew up to know some certainty of life I had to believe yes they are really superstitious and some people can be so spiritual and making sure other members follow their words.
That's happens to some gamblers that have much losses because they wants to gets their lose money and they will use ancient things that can helps them to wins. But that will not works as gambling is not related to superstitious so they will still lose their money and even they can becomes addicted to gambling. It's different on gambling as gambling is parts of entertainment. If people still use something related to superstitious, they must knows that will not helps them to wins. They must have luck to wins on gambling and if they don't have, they will difficult to wins but only lose their money. But we don't have to talks about anything to those who believe superstitious things, especially when they playing gambling because that's their belief. We can just lets them still do that while we only playing gambling as usual.

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Demons, Satan. What next, zombies and vampires? I though that gambling was not allowed for underaged. All this reminds me saying that gambler will blame anyone except accepting fact that he lost due to lack of luck, random factors and probability. It is absurdly to believe that some otherworldly forces help casinos to out win gamblers.

 
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He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino <...>
Anyone who believes in superstitions and demons in gambling is going to do badly, very badly. Better not to gamble and to pray.

Anyone who believes in this SHOULD not gamble in the first place and anyone who is religious should not gamble as well. Because if they do, they don't have integrity and most likely going to break their own rules in terms of allocating funds and time with gambling.
But for people who don't believe any of these are free to do everything they can. What is important is we respect what others believes. Even with superstitious gestures in gambling, I respect that all though it looks funny.

Most of these "retired gamblers" who come back to criticize gambling and spread falsehood about it are those who were reckless with gambling and got their own fair share of the consequences of being reckless. I am yet to see a gambler who puts the blames on himself for all the misfortunes he faced as a gambler, they would rather accuse the casinos, betting platforms and the gambling industry as a whole. We have lots of good gamblers out their, but the bad gamblers keep making people see gambling as a devilish thing. There is no such thing as superstition in gambling, there is no demon controlling anyone. If at all there is anything pushing gamblers to be irresponsible and act out of proportion,  then that one thing is Greed. Let them conquer greed first and see if there will still be any demon manipulating gamblers.

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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge.

But it's not something magical, the house indeed has the higher edge. It's openly declared on each gambling site. But yeah, I understand why the guy has never visited a gambling site - the Demons!

He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

The house edge works through mathematics. Does the old man think that mathematics is ruled by demons too? It think it's very likely that he does. I personally don't think that "he's lost too much in gambling" because to lose too much you must have it first, and I think what this old man lost is his mind, a long time ago and not because of gambling.

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May 15, 2024, 09:44:08 AM
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

I guess these kind of people really have to blame someone with their winning (God), or losing (Demon). Although there could be games in lower league that can be manipulated at some point, but I don't think there is divine intervention in any games though.

Going back to gambling addiction, still depends on every individual, we really have to control and manage our emotions to not fall for being addicted. But there are chance as well to recover, as there are also stories of people who had kick it from from their system.

 
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May 15, 2024, 10:10:42 AM
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Casinos don't need the support of the demons to stay profitable. When it comes to sports betting, there is no manipulation they can do because you are the one deciding the side that will win and you can see the odds even before you make the bet, and you only do it if you are okay with the odds. There is no doubt that if some players win, others lose, and those who lose are the ones keeping the casino profitable even after they pay out the winners.

Gambling is a business for its creators, and it is technically not a way for players to earn money but a way to earn revenue for its creators, so there is no need for satanic powers to support the house for it to earn revenue from its gamblers because they already do it without doing anything.

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May 15, 2024, 07:04:53 PM
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let me guess, the guy is also religious? it is great that he found a way to stop his gambling through his beliefs but the guy is full of BS, I suggest ignoring it. religious people have claimed a lot of things to be satanic, I still remember my religious grandma saying that coloring my hair is satanic and I am being influenced by demons through the music I was listening to.
As said, the guy on the bus is very much into gambling and has lost big. At some point, he had turned to be more religious, and the same has made him come out of the gambling practice. From that point on, his life might've changed on the positive side, and the same had driven him towards stating gambling as satanic. We can't be sure that there is no manipulation, but the involvement of demons is just an imagination. There are people who are superstitious, and they find different choices to win. This is different, and he had to find a way to quit gambling.
As long as the gambling casinos we are playing with is legit, I'm very sure that there are no manipulations that are taking place. I also believe that there are no such things as demons, I mean the literal one. You know those who are colour red with a scary face, with wings and horns in their head but those gambling casino manipulators who do this to take more advantage of their players, can be considered to as one of it.

I think that there is nothing wrong for being superstitious or whatever means you think that will help you to win or quit playing gambling but what is important is that we are not hurting our selves or the people around us.

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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
Dont mind other peoples words and just simply play on what you are really that tending to deal with. As long you are playing for fun and not that impulsively playing gambling and making out some more deposit like a mad man then you are doing good but if not and you've been wary that you are spending that huge then better to have a break. Making up some self realizations are really that something a moment which is really hard to have as an individual. On the time that you would really be dealing up with gambling then you should really be just that careful on what you are dealing with specially on the imposed possible addiction
that it could really be having on where you should be watching out those probabilities. You cant really be able to blame someone to make up those words even though it is already that big too much when that kind of
advise but at least there's someone who had been showing up some concern in regarding gambling possible addiction. Dont let those words will be bothering you, just let it slip and play accordingly for the sake of fun
then it wont really be something an issue for you.
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As long as the gambling casinos we are playing with is legit, I'm very sure that there are no manipulations that are taking place. I also believe that there are no such things as demons, I mean the literal one. You know those who are colour red with a scary face, with wings and horns in their head but those gambling casino manipulators who do this to take more advantage of their players, can be considered to as one of it.

I think that there is nothing wrong for being superstitious or whatever means you think that will help you to win or quit playing gambling but what is important is that we are not hurting our selves or the people around us.
What I've come to understand is that there are some religions that doesn't support some certain things and individuals who's religions fall under that category would always kick against things that's not supported by their religions, if you read the OP's post properly you'll understand that the OP is a religious person, maybe a Christian and that's why he mentioned that.

 But I'm not buying to his idea or thoughts cause I'm not very superstitious or allow my  belief to mislead me concerning certain things, the said person must have lost a fortune in gambling or was an addicted gambler before he repented therefore he feels gambling was the reason for his previous misfortune not knowing it was his reckless act towards it.

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