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May 14, 2024, 10:37:03 AM
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If you want to print money without equal to productivity of printed money amount in the real world then there is two ways how you can do that.
( The current orgie of gold rally its pretty much paper gold the London New York and China exchangers futures contracts just to speculate with gold price off course after that orgie the bill will be passed to commercial banks so they can direct this into MBS contracts and make the last call the start of mortgage orgie before the end of the bull circle)
1.You keep inflating the assets and real estate prices so they go up and rates go lower.
2.asset prices going down rates going up.
Off course the rates never goes up right to way at the end of the bull circle the smarter money want to exit safely so the market start slowly making lower highs and keep getting rates inside the 20-30 year time frame of bear market more the ratio of higher rates higher than lower rates.
We are at the end of the 30 year bull circle so the next circle will be higher rates and lower asset prices.
The start of the long time period bear market means higher dollar value and better yield for usd holders nowdays for usdc stakers and higher rates on loans and mortgage contracts.
I assume that the next rate cut/hike scenario would be inside 2 year time frame 2 lower rates and 6 higher rates.
We entry into bear market so we see as usual investors traders and all the others start calling bottom is in but it keep getting lower and lower while at the end of the bear circle the dips will be even more deeper and people will be more scared the smarter money will be buying that time.
So now the volatility will be here for the markets up and down traders can make good money but there will be not much for market investors.
20 years from here would be 2024+20= 2044 so the new bull circle can start when innovation will start also along with new funds what coming in to the markets.
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May 14, 2024, 10:49:07 AM
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If you want to print money without equal to productivity of printed money amount in the real world then there is two ways how you can do that.
1.You keep inflating the assets and real estate prices so they go up and rates go lower.
2.asset prices going down rates going up.
Off course the rates never goes up right to way at the end of the bull circle the smarter money want to exit safely so the market start slowly making lower highs and keep getting rates inside the 20-30 year time frame of bear market more the ratio of higher rates higher than lower rates.
We are at the end of the 30 year bull circle so the next circle will be higher rates and lower asset prices.


If you want to print money "without equal to productivity" then you just have to be the United States of America and your currency has to be the global currency. That's how you export your inflation to the global economy and the global economy buys your national currency, because the global economy needs your currency for global transactions. Grin I know it sounds stupid, but this is the FIAT financial world we live in.
Higher interest rates make the government debt more expensive. Do you really believe that the Federal Reserve will keep the interest rates higher in the long run. I don't think so. The USA has to pay 1 trillion USD per year for it's federal debt. This is an absurd amount of money.

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If you want to print money without equal to productivity of printed money amount in the real world then there is two ways how you can do that.
1.You keep inflating the assets and real estate prices so they go up and rates go lower.
2.asset prices going down rates going up.
Off course the rates never goes up right to way at the end of the bull circle the smarter money want to exit safely so the market start slowly making lower highs and keep getting rates inside the 20-30 year time frame of bear market more the ratio of higher rates higher than lower rates.
We are at the end of the 30 year bull circle so the next circle will be higher rates and lower asset prices.


If you want to print money "without equal to productivity" then you just have to be the United States of America and your currency has to be the global currency. That's how you export your inflation to the global economy and the global economy buys your national currency, because the global economy needs your currency for global transactions. Grin I know it sounds stupid, but this is the FIAT financial world we live in.
Higher interest rates make the government debt more expensive. Do you really believe that the Federal Reserve will keep the interest rates higher in the long run. I don't think so. The USA has to pay 1 trillion USD per year for it's federal debt. This is an absurd amount of money.



The gold bull run show's that we not collapse this year but soon that funds of gold will be taken and given to banks in order to park money into MBS so the banks will be lowering the mortgage rates to make you think that bottom is in but we slowly walk into start of bear market.
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