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I came across a thread titled How long would bitcoin last in bitcoin discussion board where the Op expressed himself fearfully relating to if bitcoin decides to disappear off the surface of its existence but I think the moderator deleted it because I can't find it anymore. I don't know if in anyway those anti bitcoinairs such as those disreputable Meme and Alt Coins or the grieved greedy government are trying to discourage the public or investors from investing on the bitcoin due to envines. My contribution to this is that You're subjected to express your fears about where your funds are being invested on. Infact, the otherwise thinking would always make you stay conciously so that you don't fall victim of scamming projects like some of those Memcoins. You must also understand that the government doesn't care that much about your financial breakthrough so they'd always tend to discourage you from discovering enrichment opportunities such as bitcoin has come for your rescue. I can tell you that bitcoin has come to stay in as much the reputability and reliability of bitcoin is bestowed within a decentralized ecosystem in a blockchain profitably benefiting every individuals in the circles of both Investors and miners. Besides the media is also actively working on speculating the awareness of bitcoin which is tendencies of attracting more investor and so as much the blockchain is growing stronger and uncompromiseable. Bitcoin networs has a long way drived innovations lead to discovering of perspectives by which we can grow our economy with all indications of productivities and empowerments it has offered to the society. So I hope that while you've been in this forum, you could observe how bitcoin has otherwise been contributing to our daily basis in both economy, politics and Societies aspects. At this juncture, the stability of bitcoin would keep being a reliability.
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May 19, 2024, 10:38:12 PM |
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What a wrong title you have, talking about government in the title and now discussing bitcoin investment and movement bla bla bla, I believe you have seen how the thread received no replies because no one want to waste time on threads such as this, be aware that bitcoin is just an alternative to the fiat banking system and not a replacement or an anti government assets, bitcoin is not an outlaw actor, but a complement to the existing system.
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I came across a thread titled How long would bitcoin last in bitcoin discussion board where the Op expressed himself fearfully relating to if bitcoin decides to disappear off the surface of its existence but I think the moderator deleted it because I can't find it anymore. I don't know if in anyway those anti bitcoinairs such as those disreputable Meme and Alt Coins or the grieved greedy government are trying to discourage the public or investors from investing on the bitcoin due to envines. Don't judge what you don't know because it will give rise to something wrong and there is a reason why the moderators are trying to delete the post and they have tried to look at the content of the post. Let's say the government or haters of bitcoin make efforts like you said, then try to see the development of bitcoin. Did it stop because they tried to limit it? If not, stop talking like that and focus on the investment goals you want to do. Talking too much will not give you the opportunity to advance and instead people will see this as an attempt to gain attention in the community. I just want to give the best advice to anyone and do something more useful so that people can appreciate our thoughts. Because I believe we have our own goals in achieving a better life and our focus should be greater there.
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To be fair, a lot of people invest trillions into stocks all over the world, and you do trust them because they are a company that does well, but how would you know if they are not going to bankrupt or not. Look at history, look at all the companies that were in the top 10 of every nation, how many of them changed?
I guarantee you that most of them changed in many nations, and if you look globally a lot of that changed too. Google, amazon, facebook, etc etc type of tech companies being at the very top is new, it was financial companies before that, next up who knows maybe it would be pharma companies, or maybe it would be something else. In the end, if people do trusted and invested all their money to stocks of these companies and the trust is understandable, then why not trust bitcoin? It feels more trustworthy.
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I came across a thread titled How long would bitcoin last in bitcoin discussion board where the Op expressed himself fearfully relating to if bitcoin decides to disappear off the surface of its existence but I think the moderator deleted it because I can't find it anymore. I don't know if in anyway those anti bitcoinairs such as those disreputable Meme and Alt Coins or the grieved greedy government are trying to discourage the public or investors from investing on the bitcoin due to envines. My contribution to this is that You're subjected to express your fears about where your funds are being invested on. Infact, the otherwise thinking would always make you stay conciously so that you don't fall victim of scamming projects like some of those Memcoins. You must also understand that the government doesn't care that much about your financial breakthrough so they'd always tend to discourage you from discovering enrichment opportunities such as bitcoin has come for your rescue. I can tell you that bitcoin has come to stay in as much the reputability and reliability of bitcoin is bestowed within a decentralized ecosystem in a blockchain profitably benefiting every individuals in the circles of both Investors and miners. Besides the media is also actively working on speculating the awareness of bitcoin which is tendencies of attracting more investor and so as much the blockchain is growing stronger and uncompromiseable. Bitcoin networs has a long way drived innovations lead to discovering of perspectives by which we can grow our economy with all indications of productivities and empowerments it has offered to the society. So I hope that while you've been in this forum, you could observe how bitcoin has otherwise been contributing to our daily basis in both economy, politics and Societies aspects. At this juncture, the stability of bitcoin would keep being a reliability. Let me tell you this. Bitcoin wasn't created for all of these crap on which if you do stick into that WP main idea then you would be able to understand. It has nothing to do with economic concerns or even that saving up someone on poverty or would be able to have that good investment with it considering all of those things are just that bonuses on the moment that you would really be engaging into it. Just as expected that government would really be always loving on getting some involvement on things that they cant really be able to control. As long you are really that dealing on things which is against centralization or control then expect that they will really be having that kind of involvement and if you are someone whose really that dealing up with crypto then you do know that there's nothing they can do as long you dont touch up those centralized services. As for speaking in the selection about Bitcoin and with those some shitcoins or meme coins in terms of potential returns then it isnt really that shocking that there would really be those individuals who would really be tending to risks out their money to earn something that could be multiple folds of their investment on which it could be possible with those shitty coins of course. Even though we are aware that when it comes to security and at least assurance then Bitcoin would be the best choice but of course not everyone would really be having on the same mindset or approach towards things.
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May 21, 2024, 11:06:03 PM |
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The government doesn't envy you because you own Bitcoin. In fact, you will be a great contributor to the economy if ever your progress as an investor will be a success. They just don't like the features that it has got and they are still in that taboo about it being used by criminals. It's been so long since that reason has been the one taught to the regulators and the government itself. One thing that you have said about is the real deal on this current state of the market and it's about being careful about scams, they're not limited to memecoins but almost every project that comes out nowadays and also the platforms that offers investments. That's what the people should be careful with.
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May 22, 2024, 09:12:59 AM |
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The government doesn't envy you because you own Bitcoin. In fact, you will be a great contributor to the economy if ever your progress as an investor will be a success. They just don't like the features that it has got and they are still in that taboo about it being used by criminals. It's been so long since that reason has been the one taught to the regulators and the government itself. One thing that you have said about is the real deal on this current state of the market and it's about being careful about scams, they're not limited to memecoins but almost every project that comes out nowadays and also the platforms that offers investments. That's what the people should be careful with.
Exactly, that is just the point. Maybe the OP just have to keep that thought off that the government is being envious about his holding on Bitcoin as an instrumental source of income. Investors interests of earning in Bitcoin is not the problem of the government but about the model that they can not hold upon any entity responsible as the case maybe that the technology paves ways for criminals and some agencies to launder money through the system. And it seems worried that a functioning government can not get ride to those criminal folks since the crypto currencies are decentralized and non-custodial. So I think the government prioritizes their concern of this crypto world to the interests of the Crypto enthusiasts. The Meme coins as well could be a point by which scammers can execute their targets which the OP can partially be right about it but definitely not of envies.
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Bitcoin has come to stay, no matter what anybody or governments thinks about it, it can remain banned in some countries and some people can call it a scam, but it doesn't take anything away from the reality that it's a decentralized digital cash and a store of value for investment. I wouldn't bother myself if any people or government is envious about Bitcoin, so far it's not a criminal asset, and it's recognized as a digital cash that individuals, companies and a countries has adopted as a legal tender, it's only a matter of time before the adoption will reach every parts of the world. As for scam projects in cryptocurrency, we need to separate Bitcoin from altcoins.
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May 22, 2024, 05:44:39 PM |
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The government doesn't envy you because you own Bitcoin. In fact, you will be a great contributor to the economy if ever your progress as an investor will be a success. They just don't like the features that it has got and they are still in that taboo about it being used by criminals. It's been so long since that reason has been the one taught to the regulators and the government itself. One thing that you have said about is the real deal on this current state of the market and it's about being careful about scams, they're not limited to memecoins but almost every project that comes out nowadays and also the platforms that offers investments. That's what the people should be careful with.
Exactly, that is just the point. Maybe the OP just have to keep that thought off that the government is being envious about his holding on Bitcoin as an instrumental source of income. Investors interests of earning in Bitcoin is not the problem of the government but about the model that they can not hold upon any entity responsible as the case maybe that the technology paves ways for criminals and some agencies to launder money through the system. And it seems worried that a functioning government can not get ride to those criminal folks since the crypto currencies are decentralized and non-custodial. So I think the government prioritizes their concern of this crypto world to the interests of the Crypto enthusiasts. The Meme coins as well could be a point by which scammers can execute their targets which the OP can partially be right about it but definitely not of envies. Let's just put it that way that there is the worry that the government will be worried about its people dealing with scams and that's why they're trying to give notice and warning to its citizen. But in no way that they will be jealous or envious to your BTC holdings and posessions. Maybe someone from your relative is gonna have more chance of envying you than them. The decentralization that Bitcoin has is what in no way they don't have control at all so, that's what they're against to.
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I don't see any connection of this topic with the government in general even though it's true that most governments want their people to be dependent on them. That is the only way they can stay in power longer because the more people become aware and independent, the harder it will be for the government to control them or rule over them because they will become powerful if they become financially independent.
When it comes to Bitcoin, governments aren't against it because it can provide financial independence to people but they are against the decentralization it provides because they want to stay in control of the finances of their people and if they use Bitcoin, they would no longer be able to watch or control the finances of their people.
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May 22, 2024, 08:18:03 PM |
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The government doesn't envy you because you own Bitcoin. In fact, you will be a great contributor to the economy if ever your progress as an investor will be a success. They just don't like the features that it has got and they are still in that taboo about it being used by criminals. It's been so long since that reason has been the one taught to the regulators and the government itself. One thing that you have said about is the real deal on this current state of the market and it's about being careful about scams, they're not limited to memecoins but almost every project that comes out nowadays and also the platforms that offers investments. That's what the people should be careful with.
I think there are governments like that and can't you see that not all governments have legalized Bitcoin? For them, you are contributing to the collapse of your own local currency and maybe economy? Because, it's also related to it. They can give a lot of alibis to justify the ban like Bitcoin being used by the criminals (just like you said there). Another one would be is Bitcoin or mining it consumes too much energy. There are projects who are not scams and their devs don't have the intention to limit their potential but it's just that it can only become weak for some reasons. We also need to watch out for this, so that we won't lose our precious money.
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I came across a thread titled How long would bitcoin last in bitcoin discussion board where the Op expressed himself fearfully relating to if bitcoin decides to disappear off the surface of its existence but I think the moderator deleted it because I can't find it anymore. I don't know if in anyway those anti bitcoinairs such as those disreputable Meme and Alt Coins or the grieved greedy government are trying to discourage the public or investors from investing on the bitcoin due to envines. My contribution to this is that You're subjected to express your fears about where your funds are being invested on. Infact, the otherwise thinking would always make you stay conciously so that you don't fall victim of scamming projects like some of those Memcoins. You must also understand that the government doesn't care that much about your financial breakthrough so they'd always tend to discourage you from discovering enrichment opportunities such as bitcoin has come for your rescue. I can tell you that bitcoin has come to stay in as much the reputability and reliability of bitcoin is bestowed within a decentralized ecosystem in a blockchain profitably benefiting every individuals in the circles of both Investors and miners. Besides the media is also actively working on speculating the awareness of bitcoin which is tendencies of attracting more investor and so as much the blockchain is growing stronger and uncompromiseable. Bitcoin networs has a long way drived innovations lead to discovering of perspectives by which we can grow our economy with all indications of productivities and empowerments it has offered to the society. So I hope that while you've been in this forum, you could observe how bitcoin has otherwise been contributing to our daily basis in both economy, politics and Societies aspects. At this juncture, the stability of bitcoin would keep being a reliability. You know, in truth, that everyone in this field knows that bitcoin is proven and tested in terms of long-term holding of these assets. If you are one of those who have the capability to buy Bitcoin at least once more, even in accumulation within a year, that is good if you can do it. But for me, if it's a matter of raising or getting rich in life, then you as investors or the community know you are not rich. I think it's better to just look at other opportunities that are top altcoins that we can earn more than just focus on Bitcoin. This is if you want to earn a lot or become rich in the future. Now, whatever the government does, we, as abiding citizens, will follow, and no one else will.
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Bitcoin has been faithfully surviving in the market for a long time and it will influence in more future directions so there is nothing to fear. You can feel free to invest in Bitcoin because Bitcoin will survive. Bitcoin has reached the highest peak in the current world, so it is very likely to gain more influence in the days to come. But Bitcoin I think would be more trustworthy because the person who created the topic could be a fraud,
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Honestly, I personally don't care what the government or anyone else thinks about Bitcoin, and if I'm smart enough to keep my investment under their radar then they can say whatever they want. I've always found it fascinating that people interested in BTC care so much about what their government or neighbors think about it - as if they need some kind of approval to do something that actually doesn't need any approval...
What I can agree with the OP is that most governments try to discourage people from investing in cryptocurrencies, but they mostly do it under the excuse that they just want to protect them from scammers - which is somewhat true. However, in the end, all governments still defend the system that enables them to rule the country and the people, which means that they defend centralization at all costs.
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The government doesn't envy you because you own Bitcoin. In fact, you will be a great contributor to the economy if ever your progress as an investor will be a success. They just don't like the features that it has got and they are still in that taboo about it being used by criminals. It's been so long since that reason has been the one taught to the regulators and the government itself. One thing that you have said about is the real deal on this current state of the market and it's about being careful about scams, they're not limited to memecoins but almost every project that comes out nowadays and also the platforms that offers investments. That's what the people should be careful with.
I think there are governments like that and can't you see that not all governments have legalized Bitcoin? For them, you are contributing to the collapse of your own local currency and maybe economy? Because, it's also related to it. They can give a lot of alibis to justify the ban like Bitcoin being used by the criminals (just like you said there). Another one would be is Bitcoin or mining it consumes too much energy. Yeah, mostly they're just alibis that they want to say because they utterly don't like Bitcoin. I remember the time about I think it was 2021/2022 when Elon said that Bitcoin consumes a lot of energy and it should use green energy. And that statement was just a reason for him to push the prices down and also, in China when they have been banning it repetitively due to ICO and as well as mining. There are projects who are not scams and their devs don't have the intention to limit their potential but it's just that it can only become weak for some reasons. We also need to watch out for this, so that we won't lose our precious money.
If you are the investor who typically invests on those projects. You really have to take care of your money and how you look at them or else you're going to lose that much money from them. It's best to avoid the majority of these projects especially the newer ones.
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May 23, 2024, 09:09:27 PM |
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Honestly, I personally don't care what the government or anyone else thinks about Bitcoin, and if I'm smart enough to keep my investment under their radar then they can say whatever they want. I've always found it fascinating that people interested in BTC care so much about what their government or neighbors think about it - as if they need some kind of approval to do something that actually doesn't need any approval...
What I can agree with the OP is that most governments try to discourage people from investing in cryptocurrencies, but they mostly do it under the excuse that they just want to protect them from scammers - which is somewhat true. However, in the end, all governments still defend the system that enables them to rule the country and the people, which means that they defend centralization at all costs.
Yes, i dont really give a shit on how government would really be taking up their steps on how to stop or prohibit Bitcoin or would really be trying out on how to control it or making some laws or integrations or prohibitions about crypto dealing. As long you do able to hide your assets or coins then it wont really be something an issue that you would really be that able to avoid on whatever possible or potential problems that you cold be able to encounter. Just like on what most people been saying on here is that it would really be that normal that government doesnt really like for them to get left behind. This is why its no brainer that they will really be that involving on things and trying to get rid of the things that they dont really like.
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May 24, 2024, 03:14:31 AM |
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Bitcoin has been faithfully surviving in the market for a long time and it will influence in more future directions so there is nothing to fear. You can feel free to invest in Bitcoin because Bitcoin will survive. Bitcoin has reached the highest peak in the current world, so it is very likely to gain more influence in the days to come. But Bitcoin I think would be more trustworthy because the person who created the topic could be a fraud,
Exactly but the more that it grows then there's bound to be more haters and restrictions passed on that are against bitcoin and against the people that are using it, it will become even more difficult in the future or maybe we will see that there's going to be a new breed of politicians that will do the opposite and support bitcoin adoption and make it more convenient to use it more than anything out there but we can only hope and we just have to prepare for both scenario, nothing wrong with a little preparation don't you think? For now, I'm preparing for the worst case, I'm not yet halfway to what my goal is but I'm definitely in a consistent pattern that probably by the end of the year 2026, I'm already done with that preparation.
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May 24, 2024, 06:57:13 AM |
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The government has always been an antagonist of the bitcoin ecosystem ever since so I don't think that we need to be reminded of that fact because that's already a common knowledge, not to mention that most country's governments are always trying to control bitcoin but failed to do so. Basically it's inevitable that bitcoin will have this kind of haters no matter what and @pinggoki is right, it will always be that way and whatever you do against it, it's useless because it will not be worth it to deal with and you're probably just going to waste time and energy fighting against them.
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May 24, 2024, 10:04:26 AM |
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What a wrong title you have, talking about government in the title and now discussing bitcoin investment and movement bla bla bla, I believe you have seen how the thread received no replies because no one want to waste time on threads such as this, be aware that bitcoin is just an alternative to the fiat banking system and not a replacement or an anti government assets, bitcoin is not an outlaw actor, but a complement to the existing system.
Bitcoin is becoming more and more popular and many governments are gradually becoming more bitcoin friendly. Things are slowly getting better but it's confusing that there are still people like OP trying to spread negativity between the government and bitcoin. It seems like he and those spreading this negativity do not want a world where bitcoin is legal and recognized. Stories about governments trying to stop bitcoin are slowly disappearing and we should do something to make it happen faster instead of trying to create bigger misunderstandings. Satoshi created bitcoin as an alternative, he never said that bitcoin is a replacement for banks, the current fiat currency system, but there are many people who are deliberately distorting the truth and spreading it .
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Not all government that hate BTC op, I believe you can see or hear some government that understood BTC and made it legal tender in their countries, can you say such government hate BTC? no.
El Salvador, first country that made BTC legal tender and their people are making progress because they use to invest in BTC when there is a bear run and hodl till the price of the market change for their wish before they can sell to accumulate profits.
But those governments that refused to study to know more about BTC, are the government that hate BTC and it will be difficult for their people to use BTC to make progress in their countries.
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