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May 15, 2024, 02:39:03 PM
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Sometimes I do wonder what is the need for reproduction when there are so many kids suffering out there for survival, many are ophans, some have parents but their parents couldn't afford to take adequate care of them due to poverty and some are just helpless roaming round the streets without anyone to help them. It is really necessary to reproduce? instead of adopting some of this helpless children and take good care of them and make them to understand that life is not that difficult as they feel because most of this children grow up with the mentality that the society is unkind to them, they become unhappy and feel so inferior of themselves while growing up, some have mental issues due to the unfortunate situations they have found themselves.

 Is there a way to help this children grow and become better persons in the future instead of bringing more children to this world.

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Sequel to what I have said earlier and to see the opinion of majority of users who have replied to this thread, it is clear that procreation is needed for life to continue and humans continue to exist. We should know that when a topic is being brought it doesn't really mean that the OP have a selfish interests but for it to be deliberated on possible way forward however we should control the numbers of children that we reproduce, at most two children is okay irrespective of the gender(s). If we can control the numbers of birth then we will see less vulnerable children in the streets because an average parents can actually take care of one or two children so far as they can take care of themselves as well.

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May 15, 2024, 03:14:53 PM
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Sometimes I do wonder what is the need for reproduction when there are so many kids suffering out there for survival, many are ophans, some have parents but their parents couldn't afford to take adequate care of them due to poverty and some are just helpless roaming round the streets without anyone to help them. It is really necessary to reproduce? instead of adopting some of this helpless children and take good care of them and make them to understand that life is not that difficult as they feel because most of this children grow up with the mentality that the society is unkind to them, they become unhappy and feel so inferior of themselves while growing up, some have mental issues due to the unfortunate situations they have found themselves.

 Is there a way to help this children grow and become better persons in the future instead of bringing more children to this world.
to answer your question directly, procreation is 100% necessary.

No doubt, life is hard on some people and sometimes, we can't really explain the whole essence of existence  but do we know how it looks like it we never existed? I don't think so. Maybe if we're considering reducing the number if children each person is allowed to have, then it's reasonable but if you're using the fact that there are somany helpless people on the street that need to be taken care of as the premise for assuming that procreation should be discouraged, it's totally a no no for me.

In a traditional African setting where I belong, regardless of how philanthropic you are and regardless of the number of kids you adopt, if you don't have a seed of your own, you tend to be looked at as an incomplete person in the society. Should this gesture be discouraged? Absolutely not. You can still procreate and at the same time render help to those that are suffering on the street. Life itself isn't fair to most people. Some people that you see in the street are feel sorry for are even more healthy than others who are living in mansions. It's the mystery of life and it's something we can't change and stop to procreate because of the difference in the previledges that's available for different segment of the society.

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May 15, 2024, 04:43:38 PM
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Sometimes I do wonder what is the need for reproduction when there are so many kids suffering out there for survival, many are ophans, some have parents but their parents couldn't afford to take adequate care of them due to poverty and some are just helpless roaming round the streets without anyone to help them. It is really necessary to reproduce? instead of adopting some of this helpless children and take good care of them and make them to understand that life is not that difficult as they feel because most of this children grow up with the mentality that the society is unkind to them, they become unhappy and feel so inferior of themselves while growing up, some have mental issues due to the unfortunate situations they have found themselves.

 Is there a way to help this children grow and become better persons in the future instead of bringing more children to this world.

I wonder why your parents did not think of that.

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May 15, 2024, 06:50:12 PM
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Sometimes I do wonder what is the need for reproduction when there are so many kids suffering out there for survival, many are ophans, some have parents but their parents couldn't afford to take adequate care of them due to poverty and some are just helpless roaming round the streets without anyone to help them. It is really necessary to reproduce?

Without people reproducing there would be no orphans for others to take care of, but there also would be no people on Earth in 100 years. I'd say reproduction is the necessary evil.

Do you know why people don't want to adopt children? Have you ever tried doing it? All healthy toddlers are already booked. Try it and you'll probably get a problem child. One that has learning problems because mother was on alcohol or drugs during pregnancy, or kids that are autistic, or had problems with the law.

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May 15, 2024, 07:16:02 PM
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Procreation is necessary for the continuation of the human race but unfortunately
it is not selective, anyone and everyone who is capable can have children. Gen Z'ers
thinking is that there is no point bringing babies into the world, they dont have a positive
outlook with climate change and the rising cost of housing.

And on the subject of climate change, Procreation in humans is not necessary for
the world and the natural world, if we stopped reproducing the natural world would only
flourish and thrive!

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May 15, 2024, 08:53:36 PM
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Well procreation is very necessary as it will help in making sure that life of earth continue I get your point your concerned about welfare of the already existing children's all over the world that has to do with planning and birth control and not stop procreation that will lead to the end of life on earth
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May 15, 2024, 08:54:32 PM
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And on the subject of climate change, Procreation in humans is not necessary for
the world and the natural world, if we stopped reproducing the natural world would only
flourish and thrive!

Basically am not saying that procreation should be discarded totally but just a way to reduce the world population and vulnerable children in the society I know that mankind is meant to reproduce their kind but since the world economy is still in a deplorable state now requires birth control, or stop procreation for now till when everything returns back to normalcy that is if it will because with the way things are going across the globe things may get worst than this.

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May 15, 2024, 10:13:33 PM
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We can't blame them for having such children because they are after pleasure and no one can deny it that's why we cannot stop them from doing so because most of them are not really aware of what tomorrow will bring with having 5 or more children in the future. in my experience, only 1 out of 10 families are having a hard time in terms of disciplining their children at that many but the remaining 9 are most humble and raised well by their parents. I think it only depends on culture and community, unlike in other countries they see those scenarios as bad luck that's why they have a 2 children policy in their country.
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May 15, 2024, 10:43:54 PM
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Is procreation really necessary?


Necessary or not, it's fun. Whoever put this whole thing together was so interested in having us procreate that, He made it to be extremely enjoyable... at least to attempt it.



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May 16, 2024, 06:12:33 AM
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these children should be the responsibility of their parents, because if their parents cannot provide a decent life why would they have children, but if that happens, the government should be responsible for providing assistance to them, for example free education, health, etc. because we cannot delegate the responsibility of these children to other people by saying that they should adopt these abandoned children instead of having more children. because personally the majority of parents prefer to have their own children, rather than adopting them, because they don't know their background, and many other considerations.

so discussing whether procreation is necessary, yes it is necessary because without it the world's population will decrease drastically. the problem of children who may be neglected or have difficulties in life, this is something that must be educated to parents that they must be mentally and materially prepared when they have children, so that in the future the number of children who are neglected or have difficulties in life can be reduced drastically.

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Procreation is necessary but not mandatory,  is very tuff mostly in those who are in abject poverty and orphans, in a good working system of government there is some measure of control to procreation or cut down population to suit available resources of a nation while those in poverty and orphans are being help to cart them away from such situations through education, government orphanage and skills are been taught to this set of people the economy where this set if people is found can only feel the effects when the government failed on their responsibility either by cutting down through population control measures, provisions of the alfamationed facilities to assist the needy .

One of the side effects of this if actually the government failed is that this set of person are not just depressed but push into various crime make the society or nation unrest. In my opinion procreating is necessary to avoid extinction of humanity but not mandatory but government should have there policy right and do the needful to cut down some procreation that they can't Carter for.

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Breeding is the increase of population in an area or scattered group. A government can never manage its country if reproductive capacity is low. Also here will depend on the red rearing of the parents. Many poor families are unable to properly support their children so reproductive capacity is reduced if the population is reduced, the increase in pollution levels, social problems and pressure on the natural environment will be greatly reduced.

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May 16, 2024, 01:06:38 PM
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This is something government can solve for societies to have responsible children around the societies, but they will not do it for the favor of the poor children because they make use of some of the children negatively during the election, and if they start helping the children to grow to become a wealthy and responsible children , they will not see children to use for evil again.

Don't forget that any child you adopt from the society will surely remember his parents when they grow old, and they will value their parents than you that adopted them because blood is tinker than water, which you cannot convince them that you are their father or mother.

I guess some countries have make it a law, on how many children you can produce or give birth to reduce population from their countries, so that their parents will be capable to care for their children to make the societies have responsible children in their land.

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Procreation is very necessary for the world not to come to an end, this is because if no one gives birth like you said how will we get the orphans on the street, and who will give birth to them. Or is it that only the irresponsible people can give birth based on pleasure and abandon them on the streets, while the responsible people should go and pick them off the street and bring them up pretending as if the adopted child is theirs. Common man think of it, the orphans or the children that got abandoned by their parents are not up to 20% of children living with their parents. So when these abandoned children have been adopted and it will never go round to every couples who needs kids, or what will happen to them. God made reproduction for living things so that they can increase and multiply if not you would have not existed, because you were not adopted by your parents.

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May 16, 2024, 03:22:23 PM
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Sometimes I do wonder what is the need for reproduction when there are so many kids suffering out there for survival, many are ophans, some have parents but their parents couldn't afford to take adequate care of them due to poverty and some are just helpless roaming round the streets without anyone to help them. It is really necessary to reproduce? instead of adopting some of this helpless children and take good care of them and make them to understand that life is not that difficult as they feel because most of this children grow up with the mentality that the society is unkind to them, they become unhappy and feel so inferior of themselves while growing up, some have mental issues due to the unfortunate situations they have found themselves.

 Is there a way to help this children grow and become better persons in the future instead of bringing more children to this world.

The problem is not the fault of the reproductive process and in part is the perception of the parents of those children.

All lives are precious and equal, but it is a matter of the inherent nature of society to have discrimination installed from the beginning that life must have this or that to help them survive, and bring them to life. make morally degrading human choices.

But maybe society is fair to everyone, don't blame life for giving birth to someone in a difficult environment, but it's like a lesson we have to experience to see the difficulty. The challenge is not to stop someone's life, but to help them become stronger and more mature. I have heard about abortion and having sex too early without being aware of how to protect yourself. People still there is a certain nature of animals with actions that are not aware of the consequences, so stories in society naturally help both insiders and outsiders learn lessons. Seeing that behavior, we need to raise awareness about life so that everyone can appreciate this life.









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May 16, 2024, 05:16:51 PM
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Don't forget humans also falls under the animals category and for your information the only one intention of every kind of organism that found to have life is to to reproduce and and populate their species.

Humans we evolved a lot and lot of regulations, laws, and borders but still we do what we are supposed to do.

If you are being generous and want to end your bloodline at you then you can consider adopting too.









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Is procreation really necessary?


Necessary or not, it's fun. Whoever put this whole thing together was so interested in having us procreate that, He made it to be extremely enjoyable... at least to attempt it.



Cool

You are a man obviously.

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Sometimes I do wonder what is the need for reproduction when there are so many kids suffering out there for survival, many are ophans, some have parents but their parents couldn't afford to take adequate care of them due to poverty and some are just helpless roaming round the streets without anyone to help them. It is really necessary to reproduce? (...)

Because genetics DO matter and they matter a lot. We all knew that since the dawn of time, but with the advent of mass media pushing narrative on the whole world, we got convinced that a "clean slate" theory is a thing, and you can just take any kid at raise it to be the same as your own. This is a direct contradiction of both, scientific and religious truths, i.e. it denies the theory of evolution.
And it's not just about the quality of genes, but also about forming bonds. You will never create as strong of a bond with another man's child as with your own.

The bottom line is, if smart and responsible people refuse to have offspring in favour of taking care of the offspring of low-IQ individuals, then the world will quickly get replaced with just that - low-IQ irresponsible individuals. It's not a rocket science really.
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Is procreation really necessary?


Necessary or not, it's fun. Whoever put this whole thing together was so interested in having us procreate that, He made it to be extremely enjoyable... at least to attempt it.



Cool

You are a man obviously.

Do you say that because you are implying women suffer from the effects of pregnancy or it is because you are implying something completely different and unrelated to pregnancy?
Anyways, the view of reproduction and sexuality from the point of view of men has always been traditionally different from what a woman was allowed to say or express about her own sexuality, it is some kind of cultural repression, more blatant in other cultures than others.
Nowadays the repression is pretty much over within the western democracies, but the stigma prevails against women who talk about sexuality in certain ways.

Anyways. To me procreation is a matter of choice, and it is supposed to always but to the rest of the people. Economical hardships is not supposed to be a reason for someone to decided whether to have children or not, unfortunately, it has become a valid reason both in the West and in the east. The clear tendency in the West is for people to stop having children.

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Sometimes I do wonder what is the need for reproduction when there are so many kids suffering out there for survival, many are ophans, some have parents but their parents couldn't afford to take adequate care of them due to poverty and some are just helpless roaming round the streets without anyone to help them. It is really necessary to reproduce? instead of adopting some of this helpless children and take good care of them and make them to understand that life is not that difficult as they feel because most of this children grow up with the mentality that the society is unkind to them, they become unhappy and feel so inferior of themselves while growing up, some have mental issues due to the unfortunate situations they have found themselves.

Is there a way to help this children grow and become better persons in the future instead of bringing more children to this world.
Well, here's my question to you, are you and your partner willing to adopt a child if you don't want to procreate or have a kid of your own? That's an easy yes or no question but it will answer your question about the need to procreate. Sure, it's a noble cause to adopt a kid but not everyone shares that philosophy because they want to the feeling of creating something, they want something of their own blood and people don't really like the idea of adopting someone that they don't have any semblance with, the factor of emotions plays with this issue too, some kids when they grow up, they might want to look for their biological parents and that would definitely hurt their adoptive parents even if it's the kid's rights. If we really want to help these kids, we need to campaign for reproductive health and the use of contraceptives, teaching people that children are a big responsibility and prevention of teenage pregnancy would probably do more than not creating a new life.

Being a responsible parent is better than not having one because a population collapse is definitely something that would end our civilization if we continue having this mindset where we try to justify having no kids is better than having any kids. Sure there's the economic challenges but people will always be able to change those stuff, if we only banded together when it comes to this things, it's probably going to be alright but we're long way from that from ever happening.



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