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May 17, 2024, 03:06:13 PM
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In some religions, destiny is what is predicted for someone to become. But if it is not about religion, destiny is what someone became. I will prefer to go for the later. If someone failed in life, become poor, or rich or make progress than his mates, that is that person's destiny. Anyone that lose to gambling very well that gambling let him to become not rich, that is the person's destiny. If someone wins huge amount of money from gambling, that is also the person's destiny. But win or lose in gambling will not be the end story of a gambler if he is still living.
This kind of mentality can make people careless and even lazy. Since life is predestined, people will assume that they don't have to put in much effort because they are already destined to be rich or poor. My position is that even if one is destined to be rich through any means including gambling, there is also a need to work hard. Gamblers need to understand and gain deep experience in games before betting. You shouldn't just depend solely on luck to win big. There is also a place for risk-taking, many gamblers who win big, also take big risks.

And this makes me to come to a hypothetical conclusion that in gambling each and every person is individually destiny to within the range of certain amount of win. And that if you are not destined to win the high amount you are after, you will never be able to no matter how much you use or the strategy you apply to your bets.

Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?
Some events are unexplainable, so we will have to accept them as they happen. I have seen first-time gamblers winning big even without any deep gambling experience. That's why I have the belief that gambling win is a product of knowledge and luck.

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May 17, 2024, 03:10:10 PM
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It's not destiny that affects you, it's your belief in it that affects your outcome when you gamble, you see when you are thinking that stuff is predetermined or that there's already something that is set to happen already, your mind is conditioned to belief that it's useless to do your best because you think that things are already done and it's just a matter now of finding out what's in it for you. Your destiny doesn't have anything to do with this and if it does, it's probably small or a trivial matter on the grand scheme of things. Gambling is pure mathematics and it's a really complicated math that it's easy to just lie to yourself that it's not that and that it's something else.
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May 17, 2024, 03:14:44 PM
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But then, I also find out that there are people that will just start gambling for a short time and boom they have won a jackpot in millions when people that have been there years before them are struggling to win even thousands.

And this makes me to come to a hypothetical conclusion that in gambling each and every person is individually destiny to within the range of certain amount of win. And that if you are not destined to win the high amount you are after, you will never be able to no matter how much you use or the strategy you apply to your bets.

Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?
I don't think its a matter of destiny because some persons eventually gets to win a very huge amount after a very long time but then gambling is most dependent on luck much more than its skill dependent or even destiny dependent as you may want to say it, if you look in the concept of destiny then you may most likely not get to wan to based it on gambling luck as it doesn't  relay corelate well enough but then one thing I'm very sure about is luck and proper risk management and little of skill can get you to eventually get to win some day.

the concept of destiny even requires you to actually getting to do work to be able to get to the desired destination to achieving that which you desire to achieve apparently luck isn't a relay key factor in the concept of destiny rather its preparation and hard work meeting opportunity that gets one to their destiny but then luck helps accelerate the speed to your destination which eventually turns out to your destiny.

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May 17, 2024, 03:16:28 PM
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I don't believe in something called "destiny".

You can do anything you want and you can change anything from now on, you can change your life, you can stay in your mediocre life or you can become poor, because it caused by your activities.

If gambling can make you happy, it will affect you to become more creative and have a better spirit to doing your daily activity.

If you can't control yourself while gambling, it will make you get addicted and lost everything including your life.

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May 17, 2024, 04:15:09 PM
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In life, nature has programmed one destiny to either be a success or failure in the things they do. That's why, you get to find out that, there are things one can engage in and fail woefully, while others will do the exact thing and succeed in those same thing. That's how life has projected everything to be because our destinies are far different from each other.

Relating gambling to one destiny, I don't think it does work in that area, you know why? Gambling is about luck. For instance, assuming my destiny is to be rich in real life if I find myself to be addicted to gambling, what do you think will happen to me in a short time? To broke like hell because I steadily gambled with the money I had rather than making good use of it to invest or gamble with a little amount.

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May 17, 2024, 04:38:33 PM
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Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?

I am afraid what you are asking about goes beyond the realm of things we can prove, as human beings. Actually, this is a discussion which have been going around in the forum for years, perhaps even more, before I started to post around here.
There will be people who believes in destiny, but is that another name for "luck" or "chance"?
If you asked this question to a mathematician, he would tell you everyone who enter the casino has the same chances to exit it with money. What I am trying to say is this is something which depends much on the personal point of view each one of us could have on things we cannot control, you will only see personal opinions in this thread, nothing else. Once I have made that clear, I would like to share my personal opinion: there are things we cannot understand and may never understand, so there is a chance some people have something indeed special waiting for them, but we never know.

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May 17, 2024, 04:45:03 PM
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I was just having this thought just within myself (more of an opinion) about some comments have read in the gambling board and complains from gamblers outside the forum, that ever since they have been gambling they have never won a bet amounting to a thousand dollars for it has always been below, while some others say that no matter how much high or low amount they have constantly be using to stake in order to win millions it has never favoured them that it has only been a few thousand bucks they had been lucky to win.

But then, I also find out that there are people that will just start gambling for a short time and boom they have won a jackpot in millions when people that have been there years before them are struggling to win even thousands.

And this makes me to come to a hypothetical conclusion that in gambling each and every person is individually destiny to within the range of certain amount of win. And that if you are not destined to win the high amount you are after, you will never be able to no matter how much you use or the strategy you apply to your bets.

Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?
How you propose that we can prove or disprove such thoughts? According to some physicists the future is as real as the past, if they are correct then anything that is bound to happen will happen and nothing else, and you could think of this as destiny, but since we do not know what will happen on the future, you have no way to be sure if you will be one of the few lucky winners or not, so what to do? And the answer is simple, if you like to gamble do so and if you win that is good for you, but if you do not then at least you got some fun out of gambling.
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May 17, 2024, 05:06:35 PM
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In some religions, destiny is what is predicted for someone to become. But if it is not about religion, destiny is what someone became. I will prefer to go for the later. If someone failed in life, become poor, or rich or make progress than his mates, that is that person's destiny. Anyone that lose to gambling very well that gambling let him to become not rich, that is the person's destiny. If someone wins huge amount of money from gambling, that is also the person's destiny. But win or lose in gambling will not be the end story of a gambler if he is still living.
This kind of mentality can make people careless and even lazy. Since life is predestined, people will assume that they don't have to put in much effort because they are already destined to be rich or poor. My position is that even if one is destined to be rich through any means including gambling, there is also a need to work hard. Gamblers need to understand and gain deep experience in games before betting. You shouldn't just depend solely on luck to win big. There is also a place for risk-taking, many gamblers who win big, also take big risks.

And this makes me to come to a hypothetical conclusion that in gambling each and every person is individually destiny to within the range of certain amount of win. And that if you are not destined to win the high amount you are after, you will never be able to no matter how much you use or the strategy you apply to your bets.

Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?
Some events are unexplainable, so we will have to accept them as they happen. I have seen first-time gamblers winning big even without any deep gambling experience. That's why I have the belief that gambling win is a product of knowledge and luck.
Destiny is a gift from God and that gift was given to each one of us since we were born. Thus, it is in our duty to hone this gift, develop and build before it can speak for us. In as much as we were predestined if we do not walk on the right part to that destiny it wont come to accomplishment. Many people fail to understand these things. Just like you have said they feel that they have to sit at home and things would go out as planned, i would put the blame on movies and online stories we have watched and heard. But even in the movies the said person always go in chase of what he wants and then he meets his destiny with fate on the path he took.

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May 17, 2024, 05:11:14 PM
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Though comfortable, the assumption that gaming luck is preset is false.  Gambling is about chance and probabilities. It's math, not fate. People who gamble a lot yet never win aren't cursed. The odds are playing out.  Playing more brings your results closer to the statistical average, not destiny

Who wins big early on? Fate doesn't favor them.  They're unusual cases that prove the norm.  Gambling is about risk and probability, not destiny. Thinking you'll win can lead to unwise decisions like pursuing losses.  Understanding the odds and viewing gambling as enjoyment rather than a fast fix is healthy gambling

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Can someone please tell me more about the telegram wallet?

1. I want to know if the wallet gives new users any private keys or recovery seeds.

2. I also want to know if you lost your mobile wallet that you use to register the telegram you also lost access to the wallet?

Because if mobile numbers is the only backup for every telegram users then it is a dumb thing to trust, many people will lose their assets when attackers see that many people are using Ton assets.

Also the attacks will be much easier compared to crypto wallets with private keys and recovery seeds.

That's actually a great question and one of my concerns as well, the phone number part.
I have 3 tg accounts, 1 private, 1 for crypto/forum related stuff and one for gambling channels and so on. Only one number is actually my number, the rest are old inactive numbers and I wouldn't be able to recover these accounts.

There should be at least an email or something be possible to add to the tonpoker account, that would at least make it possible to recover the account somehow, hopefully.

Yeah, This is also the reason why I have withdrawn the reward immediately because I have been participating in different new dapps using my telegram. I don't have a clue if those dapps can access my account and wallet.



From the little that I Know , Everything related to Telegram has a large Amount of security, which is very favorable for lovers of privacy and privacy, I don't know Anything about how the wallet works, but it is with the same Quality They offer the Service of Messaging because it's not bad that they can do other types of things like store money there, standard Encryption is good, but this has to do with crypto Because it can vary a lot, I'm not sure, but it's better to make predictions and Withdraw money Until you understand Clearly how it works.

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May 17, 2024, 06:58:19 PM
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And this makes me to come to a hypothetical conclusion that in gambling each and every person is individually destiny to within the range of certain amount of win. And that if you are not destined to win the high amount you are after, you will never be able to no matter how much you use or the strategy you apply to your bets.

Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this.
What is destiny, if I may ask? Is it luck?

No on is destined to be a gambler and definitely no one is destined to win big in gambling. Anyone who thinks that "destiny" is involved in gambling win should provide statistics, research, reports, and stories that collaborates it. I will be interested to read it.

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My belief is that "destiny" or any sort "supernatural" meaning attached to it.

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In life, nature has programmed one destiny to either be a success or failure in the things they do. That's why, you get to find out that, there are things one can engage in and fail woefully, while others will do the exact thing and succeed in those same thing. That's how life has projected everything to be because our destinies are far different from each other.

Relating gambling to one destiny, I don't think it does work in that area, you know why? Gambling is about luck. For instance, assuming my destiny is to be rich in real life if I find myself to be addicted to gambling, what do you think will happen to me in a short time? To broke like hell because I steadily gambled with the money I had rather than making good use of it to invest or gamble with a little amount.

I also don't see that there is any kind of relationship with that, destiny has nothing to do with games of chance, I know that there are many people who believe that everything is written, I respect that, but I consider that what one does for pure own decision is what will happen, I do not believe that the game and all these things already have a clear destiny for each of us, because in the game everything is possible to happen, there is no other way You see, I see it that way, but those who think that destiny has something to do with it, well I understand them, but the game for me is half about being lucky and the other half about our decisions, as long as one Seeks to win.

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What is destiny, if I may ask? Is it luck?

No on is destined to be a gambler and definitely no one is destined to win big in gambling. Anyone who thinks that "destiny" is involved in gambling win should provide statistics, research, reports, and stories that collaborates it. I will be interested to read it.

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My belief is that "destiny" or any sort "supernatural" meaning attached to it.

Good question! This debate about whether luck or skill determines gambling outcomes has been around forever.  Basically there's two ways of looking at it. 

On one side, you got believers in free will.  They say if you study the odds enough and have a solid strategy, you ultimately control how much you win or lose.  It comes down to making choices - like managing your money properly. 

Then there's the destiny camp and  to them, your fate kinda predetermined whether you'll hit it big or go home broke.  Maybe you were born lucky at the tables.  Or the universe has other plans for you.   

Wanna know what I think? Those concepts were dreamed up by people long ago to explain weird stuff they couldnt understand yet - like how ghosts or spirits affected everyday life.  Today we got science to make sense of things that used to seem supernatural.  So I'm still figuring out where I stand on this whole luck versus skill thing, but in general I'm more inclined to believe concrete evidence and things like coincidence rather than fate or destiny.
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I was just having this thought just within myself (more of an opinion) about some comments have read in the gambling board and complains from gamblers outside the forum, that ever since they have been gambling they have never won a bet amounting to a thousand dollars for it has always been below, while some others say that no matter how much high or low amount they have constantly be using to stake in order to win millions it has never favoured them that it has only been a few thousand bucks they had been lucky to win.

But then, I also find out that there are people that will just start gambling for a short time and boom they have won a jackpot in millions when people that have been there years before them are struggling to win even thousands.

And this makes me to come to a hypothetical conclusion that in gambling each and every person is individually destiny to within the range of certain amount of win. And that if you are not destined to win the high amount you are after, you will never be able to no matter how much you use or the strategy you apply to your bets.

Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?

You ask an interesting question, it probably worries many people, not just you.
Unfortunately, there is no clear answer to this question. This is something that cannot be measured, it is impossible to carry out statistics or say in percentage terms. I believe that everyone can win, someone may be lucky twice in a row when a person just started playing, someone may not be lucky even once in their entire life.
To answer your question, I will say that there is no formula and it is impossible to answer unambiguously. My opinion is that anyone can win, just as anyone can never win a jackpot or lottery in their life.

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I was just having this thought just within myself (more of an opinion) about some comments have read in the gambling board and complains from gamblers outside the forum, that ever since they have been gambling they have never won a bet amounting to a thousand dollars for it has always been below, while some others say that no matter how much high or low amount they have constantly be using to stake in order to win millions it has never favoured them that it has only been a few thousand bucks they had been lucky to win.

But then, I also find out that there are people that will just start gambling for a short time and boom they have won a jackpot in millions when people that have been there years before them are struggling to win even thousands.

And this makes me to come to a hypothetical conclusion that in gambling each and every person is individually destiny to within the range of certain amount of win. And that if you are not destined to win the high amount you are after, you will never be able to no matter how much you use or the strategy you apply to your bets.

Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?

You ask an interesting question, it probably worries many people, not just you.
Unfortunately, there is no clear answer to this question. This is something that cannot be measured, it is impossible to carry out statistics or say in percentage terms. I believe that everyone can win, someone may be lucky twice in a row when a person just started playing, someone may not be lucky even once in their entire life.
To answer your question, I will say that there is no formula and it is impossible to answer unambiguously. My opinion is that anyone can win, just as anyone can never win a jackpot or lottery in their life.
Luck isnt something that could be altered or something that could be influenced or something that you could be able to dictate or something and you cant be able to stop people on having that kind of
assumptions that fate has to do on being a winner or not with gambling. Its true that there's no such thing about being proven out or not. This is why its called gambling in the first place because
no one really knows on when you would be able to win or when you would be able to achieve such good winning rate. Fate has nothing to do with it. If you do win then you are lucky
if you do lose then you are really that in bad luck, as simple as that. We shouldnt really that make ourselves that being too frocible on things on which we know that this is something that
cant really be known when it comes on being lucky.

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 luck also plays a big role in every win achieved by gamblers, especially if the win is in a fairly large amount. because in gambling there is no separate strategy or pattern that can guarantee that every time you gamble or place a bet you will win. The final result of gambling or betting is very difficult to predict accurately, gambling is full of uncertainty and unexpected surprises.

and if it is related to destiny, then there are two kinds of destiny. The first is fate that cannot be changed, which has become a decision, just like death. And the second destiny is a destiny that can be changed, where this destiny can change but depends on the efforts or efforts made by the human being himself. If it is related to winning in gambling, then winning in gambling falls into the second destiny, or a destiny that can be changed. and for example, suppose a certain person is destined to lose in the gambling he is doing, but because he continues to hone his skills in gambling, is able to make predictions that are quite good and rational, then it does not rule out the possibility that in the end that person will find victory in gambling. .

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In my opinion, fate is the same as luck, if luck is on your side at that time then you will have good luck, I mean getting luck not only from gambling, and if your luck is in gambling then your luck will get a win and it could be a win which is big, but if you don't get luck, you won't experience good luck until luck is on your side and we also won't know when luck will be ours and usually gamblers wait for luck the same as waiting for good luck will make them win the gambling.

Fate is the fate that we will experience in the future, whether bad fate or good fate that is determining our future fate and everyone certainly wants to experience a good fate and luck is determined by fate itself. If we are destined to be successful then we will one day find the path that will lead us to success, but the path to success is not always by gambling, but if we are destined to be poor, no matter how much we try, we will not be able to change the fate that has been determined.

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There's a thin line that divides the meaning of luck and destiny; gamblers will say that I'm destined to win in gambling, or they are going to be lucky when they gamble; they have the same meaning for many of us, I would say yes destiny it has a role in how we win in gambling.
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For me, I don't think win base on destiny, gambling is a game of luck and chance while destiny is what the future holds, so there is a big difference between them and someone can't say it's winning is because they are destined to win, actually that is what some people believes because they are mistaken luck for destiny, because the odds and the pattern are not the same, yes, some people might have this luck to win all through the week or might even get rich through it but if you try with that same pattern again for another week, you will see that you can't win again, maybe only once or none, but as far as we gamble responsibly, one can actually win too.

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Even though I don't feel comfortable attaching so much spirituality to gambling, it is still possible that some people are just naturally lucky that they win effortlessly.  I don't know if this has anything to do with their destiny or not and if it does, then it is possible that their could be some spiritual max they could win.

You contradict yourself by admitting that there are people who are always lucky and therefore within their destiny to be so, which contradicts your position of rejecting the integration of spirituality with gambling. I am not saying that the opposite is true, but I absolutely deny the relationship between fate and gambling due to my conviction that it is impossible for a person to always be lucky in everything, otherwise he is not human like us in the first place.

These are impossible hypotheses that cannot happen in reality.

Let us ask a logical question: If a person is always lucky, what prompted him to practice gambling with the aim of making a profit? Isn't he supposed to be financially prosperous, considering that his fate made him the luckiest?

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