Fixed matches group in 3rd world countries

[Ultegra134]

Okay, we've probably all seen so-called Facebook or Telegram groups offering great returns and promising information on fixed matches. I always believed they're scams and still do, up to a degree, of course. Money doesn't grow on trees, but something really stood out to me this time. A friend of mine reached out to me, not in any attempt to lure me into this; he wasn't aware that I'm also involved in sports betting and that he's in a Facebook group of approximately 100 users, where the "administrator" is distributing money on certain matches of completely unknown teams in India, Guatemala, Pakistan, or other countries, with odds usually higher than 1.7 to 1.8.

The only catch is that they have to a share portion of the earnings with the group's administrator, who is basically giving you the money to make the bets. I was dumbfounded to see that there were plenty of wins, with bets even surpassing 2.0 odds and doubling your money. However, he told me that it was risky because it could potentially end up having his account banned, and he is microbetting smaller amounts of €5–€10 in other random matches, so it appears that he also has a few losses.

To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?

[Oshosondy]

Have you tried it often and they are winning? There are fixed matches but if those that fixed it are caught, they would be punished for it and they may lose their job. Scammers are plenty and using it to scam.

If it does not involve my own money like you said, maybe it is true, but I will not be interested to go for it. You said there are still losses but which might be intentionally selected by the people for the gambling site not to suspect anything but just like I said before, I am not interested.

I have not seen anything like it before. I hope this will not help the people that use it for scam to scam more people because some people will believe that fixed matches exist than scam ones until they are scammed again.

[Ultegra134]

Have you tried it often and they are winning? There are fixed matches but if those that fixed it are caught, they would be punished for it and they may lose their job. Scammers are plenty and using it to scam.

If it does not involve my own money like you said, maybe it is true, but I will not be interested to go for it. You said there are still losses but which might be intentionally selected by the people for the gambling site not to suspect anything but just like I said before, I am not interested.

I have not seen anything like it before. I hope this will not help the people that use it for scam to scam more people because some people will believe that fixed matches exist than scam ones until they are scammed again.

The intentional losses are made by my friend himself; it's not an instruction from the so-called group. He'll bet on the Greek Super League, for instance, or some other completely random match, such as Liverpool vs. Everton. That way, he's also producing a few losses, so he doesn't flag the system, although he's aware that he may end up having his account banned. He involves both the administrator's money and his own, betting from another account to keep 100% of the winnings, along with the returns from the shared funds from the group. According to him, the administrator is banned from most casinos and is unable to bet himself, which is why he's sharing the fixed matches and having others bet for him.

I haven't tried it myself; I just learned about it yesterday evening, and to be honest, although it sounds too good to be true, I'd potentially test it with a bet or two, but not involving my own money. My friend however, has already won quite a few matches and has generated a decent amount of money.

[FatFork]

I haven't tried it myself; I just learned about it yesterday evening, and to be honest, although it sounds too good to be true, I'd potentially test it with a bet or two, but not involving my own money. My friend however, has already won quite a few matches and has generated a decent amount of money.

Technically, anything is possible. There is no doubt that there are fixed matches and sports betting manipulations. There's a whole underground betting scene, sure, but this situation with your friend reeks of a classic scam with a shiny new coat of paint.

High odds, 50/50 profit split? Red flags everywhere. If someone's "giving away" money on sure bets, why wouldn't they keep it all?  You say admin is banned from gambling platforms so he can't bet by himself, but what about his real life friends and family members? Instead he needs some FB "friends" to share the profits with? Where's the logic in that? I think this is a classic trick to build trust. They throw you a couple of wins to make it seem legit before the inevitable "big one" that disappears with all your "shared" profits.

[cabron]

I haven't tried it myself; I just learned about it yesterday evening, and to be honest, although it sounds too good to be true, I'd potentially test it with a bet or two, but not involving my own money. My friend however, has already won quite a few matches and has generated a decent amount of money.

Technically, anything is possible. There is no doubt that there are fixed matches and sports betting manipulations. There's a whole underground betting scene, sure, but this situation with your friend reeks of a classic scam with a shiny new coat of paint.

High odds, 50/50 profit split? Red flags everywhere. If someone's "giving away" money on sure bets, why wouldn't they keep it all?  You say admin is banned from gambling platforms so he can't bet by himself, but what about his real life friends and family members? Instead he needs some FB "friends" to share the profits with? Where's the logic in that? I think this is a classic trick to build trust. They throw you a couple of wins to make it seem legit before the inevitable "big one" that disappears with all your "shared" profits.

I don't get the point either. Sometimes the rigged matches are obvious in plain sight especially when someone peony is matched to Goliath. But the facebook group admin described by OP doesn't make sense.

What does he get from doing that stuff while he lets them wager using his money, he gets half and the user gets half.  
Did the casino ask KYC on those facebook group users? Because it seems to me there is a deeper scam behind it like using their names and pictures and FB profiles.

[Gozie51]

Well I don't believe in signal groups to be sincere in their dealing but only to be business minded. If you are therefore thinking it is genuine then you can try it out.

However, regards to the winnings that you also felt could be genuine, I have also seen fake results pasted some times which are photoshopped.

The only catch is that they have to share 50% of the earnings with the group's administrator, who is basically giving you the money to make the bets.

This is the part where I could be thinking that the administrator maybe doesn't want his IP to be revealed as the one staking and so he opens it up to different bettors where he now collects the commission from the bet. This is if the fix match is genuine and he has seen it or has link on the revelation but warned or limited to a particular stake for his IP but in any means, I'm still doubtful that everything about this is genuine. Pay groups may not be genuine.

[Ultegra134]

Technically, anything is possible. There is no doubt that there are fixed matches and sports betting manipulations. There's a whole underground betting scene, sure, but this situation with your friend reeks of a classic scam with a shiny new coat of paint.

High odds, 50/50 profit split? Red flags everywhere. If someone's "giving away" money on sure bets, why wouldn't they keep it all?  You say admin is banned from gambling platforms so he can't bet by himself, but what about his real life friends and family members? Instead he needs some FB "friends" to share the profits with? Where's the logic in that? I think this is a classic trick to build trust. They throw you a couple of wins to make it seem legit before the inevitable "big one" that disappears with all your "shared" profits.

I'm not sure; to be honest, I don't know if it's a 50/50 profit split either; I don't recall if he told me. It sounds like a too-good-to-be true classic scam, but it is also the perfect way to get blacklisted from casinos. One idea is that in that way, he has 100 people betting for him and gets a decent cut from each win, something he possibly can't do himself. Perhaps if you're careful enough and don't get greedy over time, you might end up with a reasonable amount of money.

I don't get the point either. Sometimes the rigged matches are obvious in plain sight especially when someone peony is matched to Goliath. But the facebook group admin described by OP doesn't make sense.

What does he get from doing that stuff while he lets them wager using his money, he gets half and the user gets half.  
Did the casino ask KYC on those facebook group users? Because it seems to me there is a deeper scam behind it like using their names and pictures and FB profiles.

As far as I know, the casinos used are "centralized" ones, not cryptocurrency ones that sometimes don't even ask for KYC. They even deduct the income tax at withdrawal. My friend himself has made a few accounts with his friend's and family's details in case his own ends up banned.

[Rruchi man]

To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?

In the huge world of gambling, these kinds of groups exist exclusively, and information or access to them will not be easy to get. Fixed matches are not common, but they must exist, not only in third-world countries.

I will not be interested in joining these kinds of groups; I may become too dependent on them. It will remove the fun from sports betting and make me focus too much on strictly making money.

[Davidvictorson]

If it does not involve my own money like you said, maybe it is true, but I will not be interested to go for it. You said there are still losses but which might be intentionally selected by the people for the gambling site not to suspect anything but just like I said before, I am not interested.

If these were something that catches my fancy I would have gone ahead to give it to trial since it is not my money that I would use. It's therefore at an element of truth to eat because the risk has been reduced. The only risk there is having my account banned. Is this a risk I will be willing to take? Fixed matches don't catch my fancy.

According to him, the administrator is banned from most casinos and is unable to bet himself, which is why he's sharing the fixed matches and having others bet for him.

This comment reminds me of one of the blackjack movies where the professor who was banned from most of the casinos for counting cards recruited and trained his students to play in the casinos, make money and split the profit.

[Nrcewker]

To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?

Yes I have heard about those one or two years back. But they were offering fixed matches in local Russian table tennis matches. I don’t know whether they were legit or not, but yes they were convincing many people through their story, how they hire players to lose a particular match and place bets against them. Yes fixing does happens, but if a group is providing these games on daily basis, then I highly doubt that these are fixed games. Fixing cannot happen every day with almost all the matches.

[AmoreJaz]

To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?

Yes I have heard about those one or two years back. But they were offering fixed matches in local Russian table tennis matches. I don’t know whether they were legit or not, but yes they were convincing many people through their story, how they hire players to lose a particular match and place bets against them. Yes fixing does happens, but if a group is providing these games on daily basis, then I highly doubt that these are fixed games. Fixing cannot happen every day with almost all the matches.

That is true, fixed matches don't happen everyday. And if he is indeed giving signals on a regular basis, it may be more of his prediction of the matches and not being knowledgeable of fixed matches. Better not get envy of joining this type of group. It can easily turn to a mess. And that person is earning quite good money because he is not spending his own money, and yet is getting a share of 50% of your winnings. Maybe, he is just good in predictions as he knows very well the sports.

[MAAManda]

To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?

First, if you haven't tried it directly then the wins you get in that group are still a possibility or luck. Information about matches being fixed isn't open information and is easily spread to the public. I've a friend who has an acquaintance who's a match fixer in a tier 3 football league. In fact, my friend couldn't get that information, because it was exclusive information that was only given to bookies.

Whatever it's about signals, never believe it, it's about luck and a little analysis skill that the admin gives you, simply if they (admins) have accurate information, they don't have to make signals because they can enrich themselves.

[tsaroz]

It's no surprise that sports have fixing. The business of fixing the match or spot fixing would exist until people are able to bet on it. There are several ways fixing is done to gain profit from gambling. There are cases of gambling operators fixing the matches in order for them to have larger profit as well people fixing to earn on gambling website. The scale too differs, there were some case where whole of tournaments and teams were faked for manipulating gamblers. The fixing are much less in high profile team sports because it's both difficult, costly and risky as many players have lost their career on fixing.

[Ultegra134]

First, if you haven't tried it directly then the wins you get in that group are still a possibility or luck. Information about matches being fixed isn't open information and is easily spread to the public. I've a friend who has an acquaintance who's a match fixer in a tier 3 football league. In fact, my friend couldn't get that information, because it was exclusive information that was only given to bookies.

Whatever it's about signals, never believe it, it's about luck and a little analysis skill that the admin gives you, simply if they (admins) have accurate information, they don't have to make signals because they can enrich themselves.

No, I haven't, but I saw myself in the bets, the teams, and all the details, along with the win amounts. It was a handful of bets, and I find it hard to believe that it's all luck, especially if you see some scores, such as 0–7 in Tier C football in Guatemala or India. I'd be willing to try it for a short period of time for the sake of the community and report back; however, I don't want to risk my own money, of course. I'm not claiming that this is legit, and even if it yields money, it might be a well-run scam that slowly builds trust in an attempt to lure you into making a huge bet that's going to be a flop.

In the huge world of gambling, these kinds of groups exist exclusively, and information or access to them will not be easy to get. Fixed matches are not common, but they must exist, not only in third-world countries.

I will not be interested in joining these kinds of groups; I may become too dependent on them. It will remove the fun from sports betting and make me focus too much on strictly making money.

That's true; some of the money is supposedly funding the actual sources who came up with the fixed matches. Of course, all this information should be taken into account with a grain of salt.

[blckhawk]

Your friend is a smart man to be doing that cover up regarding the fixed matches, it definitely is suspicious that your bets are only getting you wins so I get why he did that, it's also an instruction by the administrator probably. Regarding this situation that your friend is in, this is a syndicate that we're talking about and I don't know how but I've got a feeling that there's something much deeper regarding this and I think your friend might need to get out of this one because it's already probably being monitored by the authorities and you don't want to be caught red-handed doing what you're doing there, I also have this inkling that it's possible that this is a long con by the administration of that Facebook group, the money that they're investing so players can bet is too good to be true, either they're trying to find a lot of greedy people that will try and invest or bet and additional amount with their own money, we don't have an information about the website and the possibility that the admin might have some part into it.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

A friend of mine reached out to me, not in any attempt to lure me into this; he wasn't aware that I'm also involved in sports betting and that he's in a Facebook group of approximately 100 users, where the "administrator" is distributing money on certain matches of completely unknown teams in India, Guatemala, Pakistan, or other countries, with odds usually higher than 1.7 to 1.8.

The only catch is that they have to share 50% of the earnings with the group's administrator, who is basically giving you the money to make the bets.

This sounds strange if I may say, because this is actually my first time hearing of this strategy whereby an admin provide a sure fixed game, share money to it's members to gamble and then share the profit 50/50.  Because if this is actually true just the way you explained, then it means the admin is literally losing money every single day, rather than gaining.

That is,
Imagine the admin shared $100 each to members to gamble with.
And the odd of the game was 1.7 odds.
They gambled and won $170 each
They share the profit 50/50 each, which is $85
Which means the admin probably would have lost $15 per individual. (I.e imagine you brought $100, and you got paid back $85). It literally doesn't make any sense.

However, I think the common fixed match strategy I have always heard is that an admin will provide the game, and instead of selling the game to gambler, he will rather give the game to trusted individuals to gamble it and then share the profit either 30/70% or 50/50% depending on the odd of the game. But just that most cases, this always turn out to be scams.

[Findingnemo]

Okay, we've probably all seen so-called Facebook or Telegram groups offering great returns and promising information on fixed matches. I always believed they're scams and still do, up to a degree, of course. Money doesn't grow on trees, but something really stood out to me this time. A friend of mine reached out to me, not in any attempt to lure me into this; he wasn't aware that I'm also involved in sports betting and that he's in a Facebook group of approximately 100 users, where the "administrator" is distributing money on certain matches of completely unknown teams in India, Guatemala, Pakistan, or other countries, with odds usually higher than 1.7 to 1.8.

The only catch is that they have to a share portion of the earnings with the group's administrator, who is basically giving you the money to make the bets. I was dumbfounded to see that there were plenty of wins, with bets even surpassing 2.0 odds and doubling your money. However, he told me that it was risky because it could potentially end up having his account banned, and he is microbetting smaller amounts of €5–€10 in other random matches, so it appears that he also has a few losses.

To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?

It doesn't prove that the one who sponsor the bets will make profits at all and I am thinking of these whole scenario in different perspective like laundering money in the most organic way, that's what hit my mind when I read someone giving money to everyone and need to return a part of the profits in return and I am sure there will be a catch for the lost amount and sure the admin will compensate the losses with the profits of other bets so he even make no profit still he laundered the money via desperate gamblers, isn't it?

[electronicash]

A friend of mine reached out to me, not in any attempt to lure me into this; he wasn't aware that I'm also involved in sports betting and that he's in a Facebook group of approximately 100 users, where the "administrator" is distributing money on certain matches of completely unknown teams in India, Guatemala, Pakistan, or other countries, with odds usually higher than 1.7 to 1.8.

The only catch is that they have to share 50% of the earnings with the group's administrator, who is basically giving you the money to make the bets.

This sounds strange if I may say, because this is actually my first time hearing of this strategy whereby an admin provide a sure fixed game, share money to it's members to gamble and then share the profit 50/50.  Because if this is actually true just the way you explained, then it means the admin is literally losing money every single day, rather than gaining.

That is,
Imagine the admin shared $100 each to members to gamble with.
And the odd of the game was 1.7 odds.
They gambled and won $170 each
They share the profit 50/50 each, which is $85
Which means the admin probably would have lost $15 per individual. (I.e imagine you brought $100, and you got paid back $85). It literally doesn't make any sense.

However, I think the common fixed match strategy I have always heard is that an admin will provide the game, and instead of selling the game to gambler, he will rather give the game to trusted individuals to gamble it and then share the profit either 30/70% or 50/50% depending on the odd of the game. But just that most cases, this always turn out to be scams.

doesn't add up still. when he could get the whole amount by himself. but maybe OP should bring the link here for people to investigate and not us just guessing. but he must have been benefiting from all these and doesn't want to poop that party for doing so.

but fixed matches are being done in the top-level organization. they were once the maffia but turned into a federation or organization in sports who decides the outcome of who will be the champ and whos not.

[Ultegra134]

This sounds strange if I may say, because this is actually my first time hearing of this strategy whereby an admin provide a sure fixed game, share money to it's members to gamble and then share the profit 50/50.  Because if this is actually true just the way you explained, then it means the admin is literally losing money every single day, rather than gaining.

To be honest, the 50/50 share is a mistake from my end, my friend didn't specify what percentage is shared with the administrator, I don't know how I came up with that number, the maths don't match, you're right.

It doesn't prove that the one who sponsor the bets will make profits at all and I am thinking of these whole scenario in different perspective like laundering money in the most organic way, that's what hit my mind when I read someone giving money to everyone and need to return a part of the profits in return and I am sure there will be a catch for the lost amount and sure the admin will compensate the losses with the profits of other bets so he even make no profit still he laundered the money via desperate gamblers, isn't it?

That's also a possibility, he's sending "dirty money" and receives back the laundered money with no ties back to him. I don't know how he's distributing the money yet, I'll try to gather more information and report back here.

doesn't add up still. when he could get the whole amount by himself. but maybe OP should bring the link here for people to investigate and not us just guessing. but he must have been benefiting from all these and doesn't want to poop that party for doing so.

but fixed matches are being done in the top-level organization. they were once the maffia but turned into a federation or organization in sports who decides the outcome of who will be the champ and whos not.

I don't have a link, I'll try asking for more details from my friend and join the group if possible. The group is supposedly "invite only" for a selected number of people.

[Zlantann]

To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?

The offer looks nice since you are not expected to pay any money to get the stakes rather they will give you the money to place the bet. This match-fixing arrangement is popular in low leagues in undeveloped nations and the last time I read that some players in the third-division league in Brazil were indicted and sanctioned for match manipulation. Players and officials in these lower leagues are noactivityd, hence they are prone to bribery and corruption. But this is not an excuse for engaging in this criminal. There are many of these prediction groups on social media but I will not try to use them because it is against the law and is a criminal activities that can lead to jail terms. Some of these platforms are run by criminals who can also scam people in the group so it is better to avoid them.