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July 08, 2024, 03:56:10 PM
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"It's time for schools to focus on the root cause of online teen gambling by implementing gambling prevention education in all high schools. Health class curricula across the nation cover the typical risks for teens such as smoking, drinking, vaping, etc yet gambling education is nowhere to be found in our schools. "

This is what Colby Cotrone said when interviewed by NBC News about the article he published in NYpost about the online gambling trend among teens causing concern because, in the school halls, they can already overhear teens checking odds and their parlays like it's the most casual thing to do in the campus. This is due to the gambling apps easily downloaded by anyone.

When Marc Potenza the Director of the Center of Excellence in Gambling Research was asked whether they were seeing young patients calling for help, he said there is an increase of 90% in young males with sports gambling problems. Either the patient himself or the parents calling for them. https://youtu.be/pCDbvDDLpFg?t=313

What's striking the most of what Colby Cotrone said was that kids are unaware of what they are doing. Could it be that even the grown-up man may also not be aware of what he is doing as over time a gambler may be consumed by how much he enjoyed the thrills of gambling?

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They think they are doing something as simple as rooting for thier favorite players but it's turned more into making money than the game and having fun as a fan. - Colby Cotrone

And would you agree with him in implementing gambling prevention education in schools?


I wonder how far they will actually get in trying to implement this?? I had no clue that this was such a problem with teens I guess it does make a lot of sense tho, even toddlers have phones now. I wonder how young the youngest gambler is 😳

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July 09, 2024, 06:04:11 AM
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That is why they are still kids, they are immature but just have that headstrong which will put them into trouble if we allow them to do as they please. That is why we are there, we are to guide them aright and no matter what they feel about the things that are wrong at their age or adult-related, they should never be allowed to do it no matter how they feel. When children are getting to the age of 14-18, they are worse to tame, and if it is not a direct negative impact through the parent, it may be cryptic, which could be tougher to detect as it could be through the environment, friends and many more, children are also very secretive to make the matters worst.

This is why parents/guardians should even be more sensitive and prove smarter than their children/wards to be able to know what they are up to at all times. There is no way they can outsmart the sensitive parents, after all, we tasted the water of this life before them and there is nothing they are doing or trying to do now that we've not done before. Above all, most of these children are not working to earn money for now, so any children who don't work for their money should not be allowed to waste money. Even if you work for the money, you still have to wait until you are mature enough to make a better-informed judgment of your own before engaging in adult-related activities.
When we call teens "troublesome", aren't we starting the trouble? Teenage hormones and angst aren't all. Important growth time. If they feel unheard, they may be secretive. Imagine an environment where free communication replaces detective work. It's crazy, but isn't it crazier to demand honesty while we're watching shows like Big Brother?

Money, now. Non-earning teens don't devalue it. It's about table seating. Allow them to make financial mistakes with our help. Calculated yet worthwhile risk. Financial choices are like life's
I share some of your views but not all. Fine, we did some troublesome and crazy things when we were kids, nevertheless, if you are sincere with yourself, you could have done some things better or even avoided them entirely. Even if this is not your case (since we can't take the same path), it doesn't mean it is not what others would have wished they did differently. This could only mean that the guidance of children is limitless, we should do our best to upgrade our old flaws and guide them in the best possible way. This does not mean we can't connect with them, we can still be their best friend and also help them drop what we believe is not good for them at their age.

Anything adult-related is not supposed to be allowed for children no matter the defence, there is time for everything.

As for the financial mistakes remark, this is not necessary for them at that age unless it is just the normal mismanagement of their allowances or pocket money. One can continue to guide them still and show them how to do it better. But for them gambling, I don't call it a financial mistake but abuse of their age.

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July 09, 2024, 07:49:58 AM
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Yes, some kids are so smart that they can bypass the parental guidance settings on the phone their parents grant them access to, but if the kids are always involved in gambling activities, they may not really keep a clean track all the time, and some observant parents can easily find out about it, while some parents are just too busy to even look at what their kids are doing. They maythink that parental guidance can do the whole job; they don't realize that they also need to be there looking at what the kids are actually doing.

Like you said, some kids don't realize the danger of gambling until they begin to get addicted or perhaps grow up with an addicted gambling lifestyle. 
A teenager will need to get money somewhere to constantly gamble, and I’m actually not against the fact that if there is a lot of interest, the teenager tries to play, so that he understands that it is very easy to lose money in gambling, perhaps this experience will be enough for him to understand that everything here is not as simple as it seems, that in addition to luck you need to have many other skills, without which there is nothing to do here. I doubt that from playing several times he will get some kind of addiction, but I believe that he will be able to understand that it is not for nothing that this activity is prohibited until adulthood.

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July 09, 2024, 08:01:49 AM
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Gambling among teenagers is definitely growing and two obvious factors are to blame for this: firstly, all teenagers now have smartphones. And now it is very easy for them to just go to the gambling casino or betting site and place a bet there.
All teenagers have plastic cards, so it will not be a problem to replenish the deposit. And the casino will not check in any way whether teenagers are as old as they need to be under the law.

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July 09, 2024, 08:12:03 AM
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Not all parents hand out few dollars to their kids just for lunch. Some kids are smart enough to trick their parents into giving them a bigger amount of money. Students are given by their parents almost everything reasonable they ask for, and such requests are being cooked up by peers. They're kids who appear to have gadgets other students always look out to have. When aske, how they were able to possess it, could say they made it via gambling. Maybe used their text book money or tuition fees to wager in the casino. Other children in the class like a plaque could begin to come up with lies about needing money for text books and all that, for gambling sake. So, while adults have high and low rollers, expect similar sets of people from teens.

But kids are always creative and can sometimes lie about something they need. Kids can ask for money, use them for gambling and buy themselves an expensive gadget. And they can always lie that this gadget they need for study and parents would buy. I would say that in some cases, kids are such manipulators, that they dont need to bother with gambling, when they need something expensive, because they can always ask parents for that.

I can suppose we have totally different experience, but as a father and a godfather of two, among potential 100 kids of 8-11 years, nobody gambles directly. Nor the kids havent heard that anyone from parallel class gamble. Kids ask sometimes for a purchase of in-game mystery box or something of that kinds (which sometimes looks like gambling, as you dont know what is inside), but I have never seen any interest in gambling among them. Even though they tend to save money for new or latest mobile model all the time.

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July 09, 2024, 08:32:13 AM
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Gambling among teenagers is definitely growing and two obvious factors are to blame for this: firstly, all teenagers now have smartphones. And now it is very easy for them to just go to the gambling casino or betting site and place a bet there.
All teenagers have plastic cards, so it will not be a problem to replenish the deposit. And the casino will not check in any way whether teenagers are as old as they need to be under the law.
Even the younger ones than the teenagers have smartphones now. Heck, I've seen a 2-year-old kid already watching different videos on a popular streaming service and his/her parents cannot even take the phone back from him/her.
The plastic cards/credit cards on the other hand, I have not seen yet and I know I won't give that kind of thing to my kids because it's not his money that will be used. Also, I don't want them to get used to credit cards and I will teach them that I have not used such a thing from the day I worked until.
The reason is that you are just feeding the banks with the interest rates and it's going to be a problem in the future.

I think what we should be worried more about is the local cash applications because they are letting their users get credit as long as they fill up some of the information. It would shock us when the bills come in someday or an authority knocks on our door to tell us how much our kid has borrowed.

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July 09, 2024, 11:06:30 AM
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Gambling among teenagers is definitely growing and two obvious factors are to blame for this: firstly, all teenagers now have smartphones. And now it is very easy for them to just go to the gambling casino or betting site and place a bet there.
All teenagers have plastic cards, so it will not be a problem to replenish the deposit. And the casino will not check in any way whether teenagers are as old as they need to be under the law.

I would like to add to what has been said that children are often interested in e-sports; this is a gaming discipline that did not exist before. 
And if at an early age football and hockey are not so interesting, then children enthusiastically watch the battles and battles of teams in Dota 2 and counter-strike 2. And this is the first step to betting on the betting platform.  This is another factor that children have now become interested in betting.

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July 09, 2024, 02:51:14 PM
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Gambling among teenagers is definitely growing and two obvious factors are to blame for this: firstly, all teenagers now have smartphones. And now it is very easy for them to just go to the gambling casino or betting site and place a bet there.
All teenagers have plastic cards, so it will not be a problem to replenish the deposit. And the casino will not check in any way whether teenagers are as old as they need to be under the law.

Yup, that's the point or something that triggers the wider spread of gambling, none other than because now the digital world is increasingly developing and also most people are dependent on cellphones to access various social media, where I also feel the same thing, maybe I feel happy. or comfortable when browsing on social media, and this activity can really bring us various positive and negative things, increasing insight may be one of the positive sides and gambling may be one of the negative impacts which everyone, including children who are still young being a minor could be one of the victims.

On the other hand, the internet, especially social media, has become one of the biggest places for online casinos to carry out various promotions, one of which is that they often use the services of streamers to promote their casino sites, and in this situation there are no exceptions for the audience who see them, or meaning the casinos do it. promotions with the aim of everyone who sees them, including minors, meaning I quite agree with your idea that casinos do not check whether there are underage children who are affected or involved in their casinos or no, the point is that anyone involved in the casino if they fulfill the gambling requirements in the sense of bringing money to gamble then yes they are customers who will have two possibilities of winning or losing.

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July 09, 2024, 03:01:50 PM
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Gambling among teenagers is definitely growing and two obvious factors are to blame for this: firstly, all teenagers now have smartphones. And now it is very easy for them to just go to the gambling casino or betting site and place a bet there.
All teenagers have plastic cards, so it will not be a problem to replenish the deposit. And the casino will not check in any way whether teenagers are as old as they need to be under the law.
Apart from the two reasons mentioned by you, there are many other reasons by which youth and young adults are attracted to gambling.
Among the mentioned conditions of gambling, it is mentioned that under 18 years cannot participate in gambling but it is mentioned in gambling but it is relaxed in terms of implementation i.e. KYC verification is not done because generally youth below 18 years are participating more in gambling.
As there is no form of government ban on participating in gambling, youths are more and more involved in gambling.  Stricter laws might have reduced youth participation to a large extent.

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Gambling among teenagers is definitely growing and two obvious factors are to blame for this: firstly, all teenagers now have smartphones. And now it is very easy for them to just go to the gambling casino or betting site and place a bet there.
All teenagers have plastic cards, so it will not be a problem to replenish the deposit. And the casino will not check in any way whether teenagers are as old as they need to be under the law.
I would like to add to what has been said that children are often interested in e-sports; this is a gaming discipline that did not exist before. 
And if at an early age football and hockey are not so interesting, then children enthusiastically watch the battles and battles of teams in Dota 2 and counter-strike 2. And this is the first step to betting on the betting platform.  This is another factor that children have now become interested in betting.
In addition to what you have said, there are now several play-to-earn games that are similar to gambling because they bring the money consciousness to children. Furthermore, children are becoming so financially independent these days because of peer influence and societal pressure, the means by which they make the money is immaterial and gambling seems to hold so much potential and this is why children are getting more involved in gambling. It will be difficult to change because online gambling have changed everything and make gambling more accessible.

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Gambling among teenagers is definitely growing and two obvious factors are to blame for this: firstly, all teenagers now have smartphones. And now it is very easy for them to just go to the gambling casino or betting site and place a bet there.
All teenagers have plastic cards, so it will not be a problem to replenish the deposit. And the casino will not check in any way whether teenagers are as old as they need to be under the law.
No doubt for that because with the development of the technologies and the internet helps teenagers to knows and search for what they wants from the internet. They have smartphones that helps them to knows many things including about gambling and register themselves in certain casino. They can deposit using many ways so they can start playing gambling and the best is they can playing gambling in everywhere they wants.

They don't have to tells many people about what they do and can hide their gambling activity from their parents. This is what makes many teenagers becomes addicted to gambling because their parents doesn't knows that they often playing gambling. While casino will lets them playing gambling and as long as they can deposit the money, the casino will gives enjoyment to them and the hopes to wins some money.

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July 09, 2024, 03:25:47 PM
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I wonder how far they will actually get in trying to implement this?? I had no clue that this was such a problem with teens I guess it does make a lot of sense tho, even toddlers have phones now. I wonder how young the youngest gambler is 😳

I do not know who is the youngest gambler but one thing is for sure, we should not blame any of these kids, children and teenagers gambling online because they are being funded by their parents to do so. Gambling needs money and these young people are not at the earning stages of their life.
This means that if they are gambling, the sole responsibility of this lies with their parents and they are accountable if in future it has a bad impact on these children's education, health and more importantly habits.

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I do not know who is the youngest gambler but one thing is for sure, we should not blame any of these kids, children and teenagers gambling online because they are being funded by their parents to do so. Gambling needs money and these young people are not at the earning stages of their life.
This means that if they are gambling, the sole responsibility of this lies with their parents and they are accountable if in future it has a bad impact on these children's education, health and more importantly habits.
I don't think that these kids and teens are being funded by their parents. Just like me in the past, I snatch money of my parents to do stuff that I like since I don't have a job and I don't have money to do it.

So, I think that most of them are doing that. Getting their parents money without their knowledge for them to be able to gamble.

The parents task is vital with how they're going to understand that gambling at a young age is risky for their growth because they might be used to it.

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When much of our teens are engaged too much on gambling, then it becomes a serious concern for us to be able to take a cognitive step against them because they are having more open access to the use of online gambling through many media, the first is that they will not gamble as it is been expected of them, also, how would they be able to afford making the best of gambling opportunity when they are still at teenage stage, they may never realize the value of money they were going to need and how to source for having more to be used as well for the same purpose of gambling, except they passed through that stage.

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July 09, 2024, 05:50:54 PM
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I do not know who is the youngest gambler but one thing is for sure, we should not blame any of these kids, children and teenagers gambling online because they are being funded by their parents to do so. Gambling needs money and these young people are not at the earning stages of their life.
This means that if they are gambling, the sole responsibility of this lies with their parents and they are accountable if in future it has a bad impact on these children's education, health and more importantly habits.
I don't think that these kids and teens are being funded by their parents. Just like me in the past, I snatch money of my parents to do stuff that I like since I don't have a job and I don't have money to do it.

So, I think that most of them are doing that. Getting their parents money without their knowledge for them to be able to gamble.

The parents task is vital with how they're going to understand that gambling at a young age is risky for their growth because they might be used to it.

Teens today are aware of Venmo Teen accounts, it's all they need and they can fund themselves already by asking for some digital USD from their parents. Parents are unaware of what the teen may do to the money and as a sort of pocket money for a student they give money. Teens must have digital money these days, it's necessary.
These teenagers don't have to steal from their parents. But this is not the problem, its if the teenagers continue to gamble using those apps and parents have no idea they are doing it.

While government can help with this kind of issue along with the help of the platforms from where we can download the apps. We might just be the problem too since we advocate privacy too much.

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I don't think that these kids and teens are being funded by their parents. Just like me in the past, I snatch money of my parents to do stuff that I like since I don't have a job and I don't have money to do it.

So, I think that most of them are doing that. Getting their parents money without their knowledge for them to be able to gamble.

The parents task is vital with how they're going to understand that gambling at a young age is risky for their growth because they might be used to it.

Teens today are aware of Venmo Teen accounts, it's all they need and they can fund themselves already by asking for some digital USD from their parents. Parents are unaware of what the teen may do to the money and as a sort of pocket money for a student they give money. Teens must have digital money these days, it's necessary.
These teenagers don't have to steal from their parents. But this is not the problem, its if the teenagers continue to gamble using those apps and parents have no idea they are doing it.

While government can help with this kind of issue along with the help of the platforms from where we can download the apps. We might just be the problem too since we advocate privacy too much.

Well, I guess that I've forgot about that they're given some allowances and their parents don't know where they have actually spending it.

So it means that virasog is right that they're being funded by their unaware parents. Whether the description is that they're not stealing from their parents.

It only means that it's still not their parent but they are given the rights on how to spend them.

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July 09, 2024, 07:10:38 PM
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Gambling among teenagers is definitely growing and two obvious factors are to blame for this: firstly, all teenagers now have smartphones. And now it is very easy for them to just go to the gambling casino or betting site and place a bet there.
All teenagers have plastic cards, so it will not be a problem to replenish the deposit. And the casino will not check in any way whether teenagers are as old as they need to be under the law.

Teenagers and the stage of adolescent is one of the most sensitive stage for any child to adult phase and a lot of things happening and I think it's because this stage of life we live now, money is now normal thing you see people have around. I mean, even in our time, there were booming in casino and physical betting place but there was challenge because you don't get funding. You hardly have access to money unless it's something you really need probably for schools but today, it's a different world we live in.

Parent are also failing to do there job, it's there responsibility to look after every teenager even though privacy is needed. There are ways parent can track record of transaction history of their kids, no way my kid is going to be smart than me unless I choose to let go or don't react but I will definitely know when my kid is doing some things that are not what we agree to be done and as long they live under my roof, they must obey me.

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July 09, 2024, 08:03:21 PM
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Kids should not be let off that easy, after all it is their own life they are ruining, so just as they can use those devices to gamble at such an early age, they could also use them to make a quick internet search and see for themselves the effects gambling could have on their young and impressionable eyes, but they do not do it, so they share the responsibility even if their parents were careless, as they have a responsibility towards themselves to try to get the best outcomes they can get for their own sake.
mate, you definitely see kids at a high level

kids are immature and they don’t care about “ruining their life” all they want is to have fun and they have no sense of responsibility thus why a parent’s role into a kid’s growing years must not be taken lightly if a kid was taught at an early age the do’s and don’ts i am sure that kid will know how to resist the temptation of doing things that could potentially ruin their lives
A person regardless of their age has a responsibility towards themselves to try to pick the very best outcomes they can, a teen knows enough about the world to make judgments about what is best for them and whether what they are doing is correct or not, after all if a teen did not knew this information then why do they hide the fact they are gambling? Because they know it is wrong, so they are purposely doing something they know they should not be doing, and as such no matter their age they should be held responsible for their actions.
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"It's time for schools to focus on the root cause of online teen gambling by implementing gambling prevention education in all high schools. Health class curricula across the nation cover the typical risks for teens such as smoking, drinking, vaping, etc yet gambling education is nowhere to be found in our schools. "

This is what Colby Cotrone said when interviewed by NBC News about the article he published in NYpost about the online gambling trend among teens causing concern because, in the school halls, they can already overhear teens checking odds and their parlays like it's the most casual thing to do in the campus. This is due to the gambling apps easily downloaded by anyone.

When Marc Potenza the Director of the Center of Excellence in Gambling Research was asked whether they were seeing young patients calling for help, he said there is an increase of 90% in young males with sports gambling problems. Either the patient himself or the parents calling for them. https://youtu.be/pCDbvDDLpFg?t=313

What's striking the most of what Colby Cotrone said was that kids are unaware of what they are doing. Could it be that even the grown-up man may also not be aware of what he is doing as over time a gambler may be consumed by how much he enjoyed the thrills of gambling?

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They think they are doing something as simple as rooting for thier favorite players but it's turned more into making money than the game and having fun as a fan. - Colby Cotrone

And would you agree with him in implementing gambling prevention education in schools?

You have to understand that news organizations love building controversy, one week it will be teens gambling, the next week it'll be pregnant mothers vaping, the week after it will be angry pensioner vandals and so on. When you recite things like a "90% increase" then you really at the very least have to give a time frame, are you comparing the last year, the last decade, the last month? There could be reasons that need addressing, but there could also be things like the scope of what falls into the gambling definition has now expanded. Maybe it is the rise and prevalence of the gambling sites in the USA that have risen due to loosening restrictions, but the rest of the world has stayed very similar - so the fault is within a specific country that is not properly regulated.

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July 09, 2024, 08:56:30 PM
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Kids should not be let off that easy, after all it is their own life they are ruining, so just as they can use those devices to gamble at such an early age, they could also use them to make a quick internet search and see for themselves the effects gambling could have on their young and impressionable eyes, but they do not do it, so they share the responsibility even if their parents were careless, as they have a responsibility towards themselves to try to get the best outcomes they can get for their own sake.
mate, you definitely see kids at a high level

kids are immature and they don’t care about “ruining their life” all they want is to have fun and they have no sense of responsibility thus why a parent’s role into a kid’s growing years must not be taken lightly if a kid was taught at an early age the do’s and don’ts i am sure that kid will know how to resist the temptation of doing things that could potentially ruin their lives
A person regardless of their age has a responsibility towards themselves to try to pick the very best outcomes they can, a teen knows enough about the world to make judgments about what is best for them and whether what they are doing is correct or not, after all if a teen did not knew this information then why do they hide the fact they are gambling? Because they know it is wrong, so they are purposely doing something they know they should not be doing, and as such no matter their age they should be held responsible for their actions.
When it comes to decisions made up then it would really be that depending into someone's maturity and self awareness because if we do speak about teens or to those who are simple young and innocent,then it would really be having that kind of chances or odds that they would really be that become addicted specially if they do able to experience about making money or simply it had been able to poke up their interest because we do know that when it comes to curiosity then everything could really be done.On the moment that you would be dealing up with gambling on which making money will be the priority then it would be making such desperation.

This is why proper guidance would really be that important specially to our own kids on the moment that they are on adolescent stage on which curiosities would really be at peak into these kind of times.Somehow as a parent on which not everything could be seen out and this is why it's hard to monitor them anytime,that's why it couldn't be always be blamed out to anyone.

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