Does a newbie warning flag about this need a lot of explanation?

See this thread:

CELESTRIAL INVESTMENTS - #1 CRYPTO CALLS I 300%-45.000% ROI I GURANTEED WINS(90%

I am about to create a newbie warning flag and I don't think there is much to explain. Typical scam with incredible returns that if it really worked would have made the OP a multimillionaire and he wouldn't be here trying to sell it cheap.

But as I have a reputation of being aggressive with trust feedbacks I prefer to ask for opinions before creating it.

The flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3303

If you think this is worth your time just do whatever you feel it's the right choice man. I think you been here long enough to know what's right or wrong regarding leaving Feedback or Flags.

And I don't think you abuse the Feedback system (I just checked) you would not give feedback if it wasn't really necessary to save future victims. I would do it if I was you!

Good luck and have a nice weekend.

Quote from: Poker Player on May 18, 2024, 02:22:38 AM

To throw in a little more analysis, he says he guarantees between 300% and 45,000% ROI in 9 months, based on past results, and that's at 90%. Let's put an intermediate case. Someone who gets 20,115% ROI in 9 months and invests $1,000. With the wonderful system he would obtain $202,150.

Well there you got you're answer. I would support that flag all day long.

Just do what you normally do, kind of like shoot first then ask questions, I think that you've got a better judgment so it's not like you're in anyway trying to do harm, wouldn't apology work if you've done something wrong not to mention that if there's evidence that there's really something fishy about something or the suspiciousness is through the roof, I just think that if something is suspicious or worth mentioning to the people that are on the DT list, shouldn't that be our responsibility as the first witness to point out the thing that makes us believe that something's suspicious.

Quote from: Poker Player on May 18, 2024, 02:13:49 AM

I am about to create a newbie warning flag and I don't think there is much to explain. Typical scam with incredible returns that if it really worked would have made the OP a multimillionaire and he wouldn't be here trying to sell it cheap.

But as I have a reputation of being aggressive with trust feedbacks I prefer to ask for opinions before creating it.

If you create a flag, try to include all information and references here in case he deletes or changes the offer.
It is an obvious fraud, although there are no clear accusations, but the prevention of scams is important. I will probably support the flag.

I think there's nothing wrong in creating a flag against that user because the offer he has posted is most likely a scam attempt and your flag could help many members to be safe from such scammers. It's not possible to earn 45000% returns unless you're part of an insider team of a huge project, and those who claim they can help us to make that high returns are most probably scammers and nothing else.

I think you just state that it’s a subscription scam scheme that promise false insane return in exchange for premium fee which is enough to flag a user for being a high risk.

I believe everyone here is well versed on how this scam scheme works. Actually, Your negative feedback is already enough to warn users including newbie but flag works much better but requires extra effort for the reference on the flag.

Imho, there is nothing wrong with leaving Type 1 flag on that account and that short description you left is definitely enough as its preety much a basic scam scheme and nothing convolited. What I would eventually add is an archived version of his scam thread and that's about it.

Anyway, I'll gladly support the flag once you create it.

A type 1 flag is more than okay. The purpose of the flag is to warn newbies and guest users that the starter of the topic shows some sign that may lead to loss of money

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Due to various concrete red flags, I believe that anyone dealing with this user has a high risk of losing money. (This flag will only be shown to guests/newbies.)

Just make sure when creating a flag. Use a topic in the scam accusations or reputations as reference. Do not use the original post of the person you are trying to accuse because it can get deleted at any time.

Quote from: SamReomo on May 18, 2024, 04:07:30 PM

It's not possible to earn 45000% returns unless you're part of an insider team of a huge project....

It is not impossible, you can win the lottery with a shitcoin, the problem is to guarantee those returns "at 90%". It has all the components of a scam.

~~It looks like he didn't log in again, I guess he wasn't expecting such a quick reaction.~~ Anyway, I will create the flag.

Edited: Just after a while the fucking scammer logged in and look what he did, instead of replying in the other thread where I accused him of scamming, he created a new one exactly the same. I am going to report it as duplicate.

Quote from: Poker Player on May 18, 2024, 02:13:49 AM

i think i speak for everybody when i say "who cares?", tag the guy. Grin

and aggressive is good.

His percentages are just an obvious scam. It is simply unthinkable to create such nonsense and persistently prove its legality. These idiots didn’t even deign to spend money on a beautiful website, but they brazenly proclaimed a team of experts. They may be experts, but in the field of deception, it is a rather cheap show. I would like to believe that forum users have the common sense to not believe a single word they say. The flag is supported.

Quote from: Poker Player on May 19, 2024, 04:06:51 AM

It is not impossible, you can win the lottery with a shitcoin, the problem is to guarantee those returns "at 90%". It has all the components of a scam.

Well, it's possible if someone is extremely smart in detecting true gems or if someone is extremely lucky while in most cases the ones who are part of the dev team gets those profits.

I have personally invested on many such coins and to be honest I haven't made profits in any of those. I believe I'm not good at detecting the gems but if someone is really good at detecting those gems then it's somehow possible I agree.

Suppose the service provider and his team of expert cryptocurrency researchers, whom we do not know who they are, can produce these unreasonable positive results and returns that reach 45,000%. Are they waiting for this small amount of money from selling premium memberships whose value starts from $80 to buyers? This was one of the most ridiculous services I saw in the forum [and indeed, they are taking the idea of pump-and-dump channels and paid analysis channels to entice investors with huge returns and then scam them].

Even their claim that the vast investment returns through the calls they provide are guaranteed and that they can release crypto before the hype around it begins is solid proof that they are scammers and untrustworthy. Therefore, supporting the flag would be one useful measure to prevent potential novice buyers from falling for the service provided by the newbie member who created his account two days ago and has not provided any proof of the validity of what he offers.

No company online or offline or a method can give you that kind of return I can easily mark a platform or someone that promised to give a profit that can be higher than 10% this one is much worse and the way he highlights his thread it appears that he is trying to tell us why we need to invest I supported the flag this one is worse than what I seen in the past.

Quote from: Poker Player on May 18, 2024, 02:13:49 AM

Newbie flags are always fine. Others can’t see it and the flag isn’t hurting businesses and projects. Your regular flags have gotten lots of support with no opposition. There doesn’t seem to be any misuse.

There is similar scams to this in the investor-based games section of the forum. If you go to a topic there will be this disclaimer:

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Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money that you gamble/"invest". Additionally, moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Do not gamble more than you can afford to lose.

The topic should be moved to that section. In my opinion, flagging every newbie trying to promote a scam is a waste of time. A negative trust would have been enough.

It's a too good to be true scam service, why would you doubt yourself about that kind of problem, in this situation, it's okay to doubt at first and then have the issue of taking back the flag later, I mean it's smells fishy already so why can't we just trust our guts that it's definitely a scam, because sometimes, gut feeling is right. Regarding the explanation, people aren't stupid, you can just put in the reference and then in the remarks, just say that this person is promoting a scam, don't trust them, concise and direct to the point sometimes is enough to deliver what you're trying to say.

The account in question (zacharybunny) was created on 18th May 2024 therefore is relatively new and the owner of the account could not care less about the account being tagged or flagged as they have no interest in the long term use of the account when they can easily register new accounts as and when they want.

Having said that, when you have any individual/company guaranteeing unrealistic ROI it is a warning to keep away from them unless they have a proven track record (and even then be very careful before handing over money to them).

Quote from: Poker Player on May 18, 2024, 02:22:38 AM